Tallg, how hard was it for you you to take this approach? you should have made those reasonings at the beginning and it would have been right. you may have been dirty long ago but just realised it now, you don't have to credit me for making you aware.

Also, calling me an anti west or anti american is inability within you to comprehend. I made no mention in this thread about west or US to start with. If you rely on past records then i blamed wetsern governments and there is a big difference between the two.

cynbob, i should be saying that because both of you think i am including you when i condemn western governments and I am not.

did not know it was this touching!