Huck... this forum is not pathetic... pathetic is try to see things through rose lenses....

Pathetic is when someone think he/she is better than the rest of the world only because.... they think so. And based on this believe they treat everyone else as if they were their own "pets".... THAT is pathetic.

And as for irony.... well... I could give you a long list of ironic situation based on a lot of what I see here... but I think everyone is very much aware of it all.