I won't set foot in the W again for the same reasons you mention Gypsy. Bars are supposed to be at least a little bit relaxed and fun, but the W has taken attitude to a hitherto unchartered level of unpleasentness. The staff are surly, arrogant and need to come down a notch or two.

They only work in a hotel, so they can drop the attitude.

I might make the trip to the all-new-Admirals soon to check it out on your recommednation!