tallg, How do you measure one's abilities. is it by insulting the opposite person on his ideas and opinions and sit tight to see how he / she reacts. for your information I am also an Indian so the question of racism does not arise. But i feel you dont know these Malbaris. when there was this debate going on and he felt he was heading nowhere. he said irritatingly ok please lets stop it i feel you are too much *******. Wat do you suggest now.