You guys are repeating youself without making any sense to me, I dont see a chance of cease fire here only due to these reasons I dont recommend discussing this issues coz in the begining you will try to be nice later you will forget all goodies you talked about and indulge yourself insulting others.

If the thread has to end this way i wish it shouldnt have started.

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When the eye becomes the heart, the heart becomes the eye ... Wasif Ali Wasif