Sisterfatime: Before starting, hope you had a nice weekend :)
"You speak of God and the devil and death, yet your knowledge of these are limited to what you learnt from nature or ‘television’."
Exactly, Nature is all that surround us, some of us, Deists, belive that Nature is God, i belive that nature is at least part of God.
"Havent you ever wondered why we are here? What things happen around us? And how?"
Of course i have, that's why i become a medium, only stopped because at a certain time the messages were coming directly to my mind even before the glass would finish the sentence.
"Everything has laws and we follow them. Our countries have laws, we follow them; animals have laws, they follow them; even the planets have laws and they follow them. Have you ever fought with gravity? Why don’t you use your intellect and prove that we don’t need gravity?
In America, after the hurricane hit, look at how man turned into animal because of the lack of the law!
Everyday, like it or not, you and your body are goverened by the laws of God. The only difference is, the spiritual law (i.e Law related to our soul) is something that we have a choice in following. So you have bleed when you get cut, you have to fall when you jump, etc but you don’t have to believe in God or worship you….and this …is the Ultimate Test. What will you do with your free choice?
You find it absurd that anyone could doubt God’s creation…we find it even more absurd that you believe in God, but not His laws."
Where did i say that i don't belive his laws? As a Deist, i belive that everything obey's to God's laws and that's why i don't belive in Satan or evil or hell :)
"Do me a favour, go sit in an airplane and use your 'reasoning' to fly it. See how far you can get!! And dont say you need lessons! because if you believe you need a few lessons just to fly a tiny plane, then what about mankind! Would they not need a guide to live rightous lives?"
Let me make you a proposal, i use the reasoning and you use your faith to fly it ;)
Mankind isn't a plane. Mankind has already shown that they can leurn just observing nature, and using the example you gave concerning piloting a plane, where is it written in any of the revelation books how to fly a plane? Weren't the Wright brothers the 1st to pilot a plane?
""Why do you believe in God? Isnt in more convinient to not believe in Him? because you never see him!Then to say He exists but Does nothing!!as brother malabari asked "What is our destination? Why walk on a path on which you dont know the destination? Is it hard to believe God can communicate with His creation through messengers and revealations? Considering He created every Atom / quark, etc (!) how difficult is..speach!"
You are confused, probably due to the huge size of the replies, it's easyer to belive in 1 God that set all the laws of nature than in a God that contradicts himself, that says that he's perfect but shows demandings of a dictator? Please don't be offended with this words of mine, not attacking faith just stating my point.
"You claim you follow reason. Then why dont you ask the Hard questions? Why are we here? Why did God create us?"
Already replied this question when i spoke about the spirit evolution until it becomes an angel and helps God with all his matters.
I don't make hard questions because could be considered an attack to someone's faith.
"who said the discoveries from cave man to moon fly are not manipulated or organized by GOD, all of our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers, and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???
why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???"
I don't doubt that things maybe manipulated or organized by God, i want people to point me out in their Holly books where does God teach man to light fires, to build engines, to make reference to other planets, etc...
"why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???"
Priests? Well, as i stated previouslly, i'm converting to Islam but not because of reasoning but because of love, He gave me a beautifull gift in the form of a wonderful muslim girl, and according to the Sheik, beliving in God is already a huge step to be muslim and after reading some parts of the Qur'an i found out that God wants you to racionalize and not following a book blindly.
I think you are confusing Deism with Atheism.
What do you mean with "all our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers"? You mean belivers in God or Muslim?
"and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???"
Well, it's not only the Qur'an, the Bible and the Torah have references to science too, not sure if more or less than the Qur'an, still have to fully read it to see how many references it makes to science.
"If you don’t die, then what happens when the soul leave the body? Do you even believe in the soul?
Death has its place, but clearly you don’t know what it is.
Who said Jesus is dead?"
As a spiritist, how could i not belive in a soul if during the mediunic session i used to talk to souls/spirits. Regarding Jesus, his spirit/soul is alive but his body...is ashes by now.
"This is common sense. But its something that doesn’t have to happen. God could have easily made everyone with skin colour that is the same and wouldn’t change.!"
Yes He could but he didn't ;)
Hope you have fun, Allah akbar
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Sisterfatime: Before starting, hope you had a nice weekend :)
"You speak of God and the devil and death, yet your knowledge of these are limited to what you learnt from nature or ‘television’."
Exactly, Nature is all that surround us, some of us, Deists, belive that Nature is God, i belive that nature is at least part of God.
"Havent you ever wondered why we are here? What things happen around us? And how?"
Of course i have, that's why i become a medium, only stopped because at a certain time the messages were coming directly to my mind even before the glass would finish the sentence.
"Everything has laws and we follow them. Our countries have laws, we follow them; animals have laws, they follow them; even the planets have laws and they follow them. Have you ever fought with gravity? Why don’t you use your intellect and prove that we don’t need gravity?
In America, after the hurricane hit, look at how man turned into animal because of the lack of the law!
Everyday, like it or not, you and your body are goverened by the laws of God. The only difference is, the spiritual law (i.e Law related to our soul) is something that we have a choice in following. So you have bleed when you get cut, you have to fall when you jump, etc but you don’t have to believe in God or worship you….and this …is the Ultimate Test. What will you do with your free choice?
You find it absurd that anyone could doubt God’s creation…we find it even more absurd that you believe in God, but not His laws."
Where did i say that i don't belive his laws? As a Deist, i belive that everything obey's to God's laws and that's why i don't belive in Satan or evil or hell :)
"Do me a favour, go sit in an airplane and use your 'reasoning' to fly it. See how far you can get!! And dont say you need lessons! because if you believe you need a few lessons just to fly a tiny plane, then what about mankind! Would they not need a guide to live rightous lives?"
Let me make you a proposal, i use the reasoning and you use your faith to fly it ;)
Mankind isn't a plane. Mankind has already shown that they can leurn just observing nature, and using the example you gave concerning piloting a plane, where is it written in any of the revelation books how to fly a plane? Weren't the Wright brothers the 1st to pilot a plane?
""Why do you believe in God? Isnt in more convinient to not believe in Him? because you never see him!Then to say He exists but Does nothing!!as brother malabari asked "What is our destination? Why walk on a path on which you dont know the destination? Is it hard to believe God can communicate with His creation through messengers and revealations? Considering He created every Atom / quark, etc (!) how difficult is..speach!"
You are confused, probably due to the huge size of the replies, it's easyer to belive in 1 God that set all the laws of nature than in a God that contradicts himself, that says that he's perfect but shows demandings of a dictator? Please don't be offended with this words of mine, not attacking faith just stating my point.
"You claim you follow reason. Then why dont you ask the Hard questions? Why are we here? Why did God create us?"
Already replied this question when i spoke about the spirit evolution until it becomes an angel and helps God with all his matters.
I don't make hard questions because could be considered an attack to someone's faith.
"who said the discoveries from cave man to moon fly are not manipulated or organized by GOD, all of our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers, and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???
why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???"
I don't doubt that things maybe manipulated or organized by God, i want people to point me out in their Holly books where does God teach man to light fires, to build engines, to make reference to other planets, etc...
"why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???"
Priests? Well, as i stated previouslly, i'm converting to Islam but not because of reasoning but because of love, He gave me a beautifull gift in the form of a wonderful muslim girl, and according to the Sheik, beliving in God is already a huge step to be muslim and after reading some parts of the Qur'an i found out that God wants you to racionalize and not following a book blindly.
I think you are confusing Deism with Atheism.
What do you mean with "all our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers"? You mean belivers in God or Muslim?
"and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???"
Well, it's not only the Qur'an, the Bible and the Torah have references to science too, not sure if more or less than the Qur'an, still have to fully read it to see how many references it makes to science.
"If you don’t die, then what happens when the soul leave the body? Do you even believe in the soul?
Death has its place, but clearly you don’t know what it is.
Who said Jesus is dead?"
As a spiritist, how could i not belive in a soul if during the mediunic session i used to talk to souls/spirits. Regarding Jesus, his spirit/soul is alive but his body...is ashes by now.
"This is common sense. But its something that doesn’t have to happen. God could have easily made everyone with skin colour that is the same and wouldn’t change.!"
Yes He could but he didn't ;)
Hope you have fun, Allah akbar
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ