its funny that u r asking the same Q to me, already i said i belive in heaven and hell, and God will credit what we did, if we are good, HE will reward, if we are bad, HE will punish,because he is just and merciful, this is simple reasoning.
but u r the one who said "i dont belive in heaven and hell"
so now come to my Q
"and yet they both(teresa and hitler) end up in the same type of grave? Is God unjust as you preceive?"
brother nice too nice,
i found plato is bit confuser here, he knows twisting methods, and diverting skills well.
first he said i belive in messengers like moses, jesus, muhammed.
now responding a little against to them just like brother coelacanth.
so u have to update your profile!
and now he said "spirits are the messengers"
what is what??? which is which???
and brother plato, sure insha allah i will touch all of your unnecessary Qs which are not even merely touched to my logic Qs, i found all are confusing, twisting diverting answers to clear QS of mine! and today friday being busy here, i will touch a few points , and rest tomarrow i will post, i am not a coward to run away and twist, divert, confuse the discussion.
""Boy B is brainwashed from Birth that Jewish people are the animals and scum of this world. Just as we all evolved into humans, jewish evolved from monkeys and stayed that way. They worship the devil and he should go explode himself because God will reward him with 42 virgins""
what is this brother???
i never expected this from you, this is utter hypocracy!
do u think a muslim family will taught it about others(jews) as animals?, heyy we are living together with them here in kerala, palestine muslims lost their homes, children, family even livies from 1957, if freedom struggle against oppression is terrorism, then u can call the liberty of inda, american revelution all are terrorism, but the apparthid of white people to african countries is written history, no one will deny it!, if u are dark, then only u can understand our feelings!
the same para i said about Boy B is almost a true fact in social, but u used your muff reasoning to change it with jews and muslims, i feel pity on u.
jews evolved from monkeys??, here u proved ur reasoning is nothing while answering this! "they worship devil"?? its foolish to tranplant a truth about black people sorrows to jews, is diesm cheapest to answer this???
do u feel its a joke??? if u responding like a joke, u r not worth for a peaceful discussion!
if u born in kenya and working in UK, u will not respond like it!
lets' come to my turn, if u born in south india and working in minnesota, u will not respond like it!
if u read anything about our national father mahatma gandhi connected with south africa and nelson mandela, u will never respond like it!
because of your last lumpish post, u lost your good image as a diest here, i feel so sorry of u!
and produce a proof verse or hadeed for suppoting your 42 virgin claim!(for slughtering them)
ask your brother coelacanth about the discussion in QL this thread, we have already refuted the misconception of 72 virgins and suicide bombing with the obviouse verses from holy Qur'an, do your people blind-duff to repeat the same grabage which is answered clearly once???
and the Qs unanswered still!
If God is so Sublime, Why would he create a machine and not give us the manual? I.e. why create us..our bodies.. or minds...and not give us some sort of guidance?
Hitler believed he was saving the world when he was cleansing it of Jews! That was his reasoning?! The Zionists believe Muslims are lower then them, so its find to invade and take their homes in Palestines!
You really wish to trust human reasoning? Bush believed what he did to Iraq was right! He used his 'reasoning' and now look, he is having people through shoes at him! and he himself admitted he made a mistake!
Do me a favour, go sit in an airplane and use your 'reasoning' to fly it. See how far you can get!! And dont say you need lessons! because if you believe you need a few lessons just to fly a tiny plane, then what about mankind! Would they not need a guide to live rightous lives?
It's ironic. You claim to be someone who uses reasoning, yet you are so blinded to the obvious fact that Islaam is the logical choice and that It's laws have great reasoning behind them!!
"Why do you believe in God? Isnt in more convinient to not believe in Him? because you never see him!Then to say He exists but Does nothing!!as brother malabari asked "What is our destination? Why walk on a path on which you dont know the destination? Is it hard to believe God can communicate with His creation through messengers and revealations? Considering He created every Atom / quark, etc (!) how difficult is..speach!
You claim you follow reason. Then why dont you ask the Hard questions? Why are we here? Why did God create us?
And how about the rules of man? Can man actually be allowed to rule with their man made rules? Is it hard for you to comprehend that God has a plan?
Would you send your children to school without telling them what needs to be done? Why not allow their ‘reasoning’ to figure out that they are at school to obey the teachers and study?!
who said the discoveries from cave man to moon fly are not manipulated or organized by GOD, all of our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers, and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???
why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???
why is it hard to belive your TRUE GOD WHO IS ONE AND ONLY, can send messengers and revealations???
I'm really enjoying this friendly constructive argument, i just wished that more people would be able to discuss these matters as peacefully as we all have been doing, thanks a lot for not getting angry me
Sorry if my post is too big :)
God bless you plato brother
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
its funny that u r asking the same Q to me, already i said i belive in heaven and hell, and God will credit what we did, if we are good, HE will reward, if we are bad, HE will punish,because he is just and merciful, this is simple reasoning.
but u r the one who said "i dont belive in heaven and hell"
so now come to my Q
"and yet they both(teresa and hitler) end up in the same type of grave? Is God unjust as you preceive?"
brother nice too nice,
i found plato is bit confuser here, he knows twisting methods, and diverting skills well.
first he said i belive in messengers like moses, jesus, muhammed.
now responding a little against to them just like brother coelacanth.
so u have to update your profile!
and now he said "spirits are the messengers"
what is what??? which is which???
and brother plato, sure insha allah i will touch all of your unnecessary Qs which are not even merely touched to my logic Qs, i found all are confusing, twisting diverting answers to clear QS of mine! and today friday being busy here, i will touch a few points , and rest tomarrow i will post, i am not a coward to run away and twist, divert, confuse the discussion.
""Boy B is brainwashed from Birth that Jewish people are the animals and scum of this world. Just as we all evolved into humans, jewish evolved from monkeys and stayed that way. They worship the devil and he should go explode himself because God will reward him with 42 virgins""
what is this brother???
i never expected this from you, this is utter hypocracy!
do u think a muslim family will taught it about others(jews) as animals?, heyy we are living together with them here in kerala, palestine muslims lost their homes, children, family even livies from 1957, if freedom struggle against oppression is terrorism, then u can call the liberty of inda, american revelution all are terrorism, but the apparthid of white people to african countries is written history, no one will deny it!, if u are dark, then only u can understand our feelings!
the same para i said about Boy B is almost a true fact in social, but u used your muff reasoning to change it with jews and muslims, i feel pity on u.
jews evolved from monkeys??, here u proved ur reasoning is nothing while answering this! "they worship devil"?? its foolish to tranplant a truth about black people sorrows to jews, is diesm cheapest to answer this???
do u feel its a joke??? if u responding like a joke, u r not worth for a peaceful discussion!
if u born in kenya and working in UK, u will not respond like it!
lets' come to my turn, if u born in south india and working in minnesota, u will not respond like it!
if u read anything about our national father mahatma gandhi connected with south africa and nelson mandela, u will never respond like it!
because of your last lumpish post, u lost your good image as a diest here, i feel so sorry of u!
and produce a proof verse or hadeed for suppoting your 42 virgin claim!(for slughtering them)
ask your brother coelacanth about the discussion in QL this thread, we have already refuted the misconception of 72 virgins and suicide bombing with the obviouse verses from holy Qur'an, do your people blind-duff to repeat the same grabage which is answered clearly once???
and the Qs unanswered still!
If God is so Sublime, Why would he create a machine and not give us the manual? I.e. why create us..our bodies.. or minds...and not give us some sort of guidance?
Hitler believed he was saving the world when he was cleansing it of Jews! That was his reasoning?! The Zionists believe Muslims are lower then them, so its find to invade and take their homes in Palestines!
You really wish to trust human reasoning? Bush believed what he did to Iraq was right! He used his 'reasoning' and now look, he is having people through shoes at him! and he himself admitted he made a mistake!
Do me a favour, go sit in an airplane and use your 'reasoning' to fly it. See how far you can get!! And dont say you need lessons! because if you believe you need a few lessons just to fly a tiny plane, then what about mankind! Would they not need a guide to live rightous lives?
It's ironic. You claim to be someone who uses reasoning, yet you are so blinded to the obvious fact that Islaam is the logical choice and that It's laws have great reasoning behind them!!
"Why do you believe in God? Isnt in more convinient to not believe in Him? because you never see him!Then to say He exists but Does nothing!!as brother malabari asked "What is our destination? Why walk on a path on which you dont know the destination? Is it hard to believe God can communicate with His creation through messengers and revealations? Considering He created every Atom / quark, etc (!) how difficult is..speach!
You claim you follow reason. Then why dont you ask the Hard questions? Why are we here? Why did God create us?
And how about the rules of man? Can man actually be allowed to rule with their man made rules? Is it hard for you to comprehend that God has a plan?
Would you send your children to school without telling them what needs to be done? Why not allow their ‘reasoning’ to figure out that they are at school to obey the teachers and study?!
who said the discoveries from cave man to moon fly are not manipulated or organized by GOD, all of our scientists are not diests, most of them are believers, and what about the challenge of Qur'an in science???
why scientists, professors, priests and women are embracing islam day to day, are they fools to accept a faith without any reasoning???
why is it hard to belive your TRUE GOD WHO IS ONE AND ONLY, can send messengers and revealations???
I'm really enjoying this friendly constructive argument, i just wished that more people would be able to discuss these matters as peacefully as we all have been doing, thanks a lot for not getting angry me
Sorry if my post is too big :)
God bless you plato brother
Ayman
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ