Jarreau, please take it as joke and don't get personal in here. Cos we both knows we can argue here and not going anywhere. I said above cos thats exactly what we felt 63 years ago when we declare our independent day. We both can have patriotism spirit but I will not do that with you.

I repsect you as a nice person and dont see you as Dutch who accupied 350 long years for nothing.

Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand