I cited a source so you could review it and criticize it. I agree that it's not a good or credible source and I agree that my citation should be criticized. But THAT is the nature of logical discussion and debate! That fact that I told you where I got my "fact" allows you to question the quality of that fact, a respect and honour that realsomeone never showed us!
Please note that unlike some, I also do not say that "Allah said this so it must be so!" In reality, the most we can say (and even this needs to be supported since Mohammed was not a literate man and relied on others to record this words and actions) is that Mohammed PBUH apparently told someone that "God said this" to him. Even then, like any literature or verbal conversation, we need to discern the context, the meaning and the history of the words and ideas that are shared. No language is immune from misunderstandings and miscommunications whether it be Arabic or English. English words from even 50 years ago have very different meanings today. How much more so do we need to be discerning of the true meaning and not just the literal words behind our sacred Scriptures?
While I agree that a faith proposition cannot be proven, it can be supported with logic and reason. If we just accept everything that someone says is "from God", then we are like a reed blown back and forth by the winds of other people's opinion.
I cited a source so you could review it and criticize it. I agree that it's not a good or credible source and I agree that my citation should be criticized. But THAT is the nature of logical discussion and debate! That fact that I told you where I got my "fact" allows you to question the quality of that fact, a respect and honour that realsomeone never showed us!
Please note that unlike some, I also do not say that "Allah said this so it must be so!" In reality, the most we can say (and even this needs to be supported since Mohammed was not a literate man and relied on others to record this words and actions) is that Mohammed PBUH apparently told someone that "God said this" to him. Even then, like any literature or verbal conversation, we need to discern the context, the meaning and the history of the words and ideas that are shared. No language is immune from misunderstandings and miscommunications whether it be Arabic or English. English words from even 50 years ago have very different meanings today. How much more so do we need to be discerning of the true meaning and not just the literal words behind our sacred Scriptures?
While I agree that a faith proposition cannot be proven, it can be supported with logic and reason. If we just accept everything that someone says is "from God", then we are like a reed blown back and forth by the winds of other people's opinion.