Things are simple and people tend to complicate the issue.
Personally. I do not tolerate any person who intentionally twists facts about my religion.
Civil marriage: or whatever you like to call it. Is a bonding between a couple who do not fit into the criteria of Religious marriage. In other words it is illegal marriage. OR, could be conducted by some who are non-believers. SO let us not fool others. One is free to fool himself.
Before discussing Gay marriage being legal or no, one should discuss gayism itself. Some may say that it is socially acceptable. But it is definitely religiously not acceptable. One consequence of gay relationship is anal sex.
In Islam. Anal sex with wife nullifies marriage. Is this a sufficient evidence?
Also. Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to do. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalize it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murderers and tolerate murder.
Going back to fabricated story about LUT people and the twisted facts. Here is the story of the people of the prophet Lut who were addicted to this practice, is the best example. Prophet Lut, said to his people: "Verily, you do sodomy with men, and rob the wayfarer! And practice all wickedness in your meetings," (Al-Ankabut, 29:29). And he said to them: "Of all the creatures of the world, will you approach males, and leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your wives? Nay, you are a trespassing people!" (Al-Shu'ara', 26:165-166) But their answer to Prophet Lut, was: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if you are telling us the Truth." (Al-Ankabut, 29:29). And so Allah gave them the punishment they deserved: "And We rained on them a rain of torment. And how evil was the rain of those who had been warned," (Al-Shu'ara', 26:173
QatarBear did not answer any of my points. Just went around and started attacking me. And keeps jumping to new points. He even contradicted himself clearly when he defined "Being mature in simple English is having the ability to communicate your point in a respectful manner so you can have a dialogue" and he started his reply to me by saying "shame on you". Wonder why he did not say that in English.
Prophet Mohammad PBUH did not ask us to go to China to learn about gayism.
One weird coincidence is that QatarBear joined at the same time this thread started and he is only posting in this thread. Any specific reason for that?
Things are simple and people tend to complicate the issue.
Personally. I do not tolerate any person who intentionally twists facts about my religion.
Civil marriage: or whatever you like to call it. Is a bonding between a couple who do not fit into the criteria of Religious marriage. In other words it is illegal marriage. OR, could be conducted by some who are non-believers. SO let us not fool others. One is free to fool himself.
Before discussing Gay marriage being legal or no, one should discuss gayism itself. Some may say that it is socially acceptable. But it is definitely religiously not acceptable. One consequence of gay relationship is anal sex.
In Islam. Anal sex with wife nullifies marriage. Is this a sufficient evidence?
Also. Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to do. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalize it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murderers and tolerate murder.
Going back to fabricated story about LUT people and the twisted facts. Here is the story of the people of the prophet Lut who were addicted to this practice, is the best example. Prophet Lut, said to his people: "Verily, you do sodomy with men, and rob the wayfarer! And practice all wickedness in your meetings," (Al-Ankabut, 29:29). And he said to them: "Of all the creatures of the world, will you approach males, and leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your wives? Nay, you are a trespassing people!" (Al-Shu'ara', 26:165-166) But their answer to Prophet Lut, was: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if you are telling us the Truth." (Al-Ankabut, 29:29). And so Allah gave them the punishment they deserved: "And We rained on them a rain of torment. And how evil was the rain of those who had been warned," (Al-Shu'ara', 26:173
QatarBear did not answer any of my points. Just went around and started attacking me. And keeps jumping to new points. He even contradicted himself clearly when he defined "Being mature in simple English is having the ability to communicate your point in a respectful manner so you can have a dialogue" and he started his reply to me by saying "shame on you". Wonder why he did not say that in English.
Prophet Mohammad PBUH did not ask us to go to China to learn about gayism.
One weird coincidence is that QatarBear joined at the same time this thread started and he is only posting in this thread. Any specific reason for that?
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