Again you equate no god with no morality and no limits.
The fact is that morality predates God....its all man made....god does not tell you what is and is not acceptable....the human brain does...and even IF I agreed with you and said ok lets learn right and wrong from religion....which religion? what is ok in some is outlawed in others....since the whole world does not share ONE religious belief, you cannot get everyone to agree to ONE set of religious rules....it is arrogance to think you can impose your views on others, not to mention wrong!
Btw, all these points have been discussed in various others threads which are still ongoing now if you care to join us =)
Freedom does not mean you can harm children....the limits are where other people's rights begin....you cannot equate pedophiles to gays....just as you cannot equate prostitution to rape....why is it always "all or nothing" with believers....trust me, without your god we would not decend into anarchy and revert to animals, but in fact prgress and end bigotry, closemindedness, and discrimination.
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
Again you equate no god with no morality and no limits.
The fact is that morality predates God....its all man made....god does not tell you what is and is not acceptable....the human brain does...and even IF I agreed with you and said ok lets learn right and wrong from religion....which religion? what is ok in some is outlawed in others....since the whole world does not share ONE religious belief, you cannot get everyone to agree to ONE set of religious rules....it is arrogance to think you can impose your views on others, not to mention wrong!
Btw, all these points have been discussed in various others threads which are still ongoing now if you care to join us =)
Freedom does not mean you can harm children....the limits are where other people's rights begin....you cannot equate pedophiles to gays....just as you cannot equate prostitution to rape....why is it always "all or nothing" with believers....trust me, without your god we would not decend into anarchy and revert to animals, but in fact prgress and end bigotry, closemindedness, and discrimination.
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?