maybe you're right, but it's a shame we can not debate things in a logical way. i don't see why some people can't say "yes this is wrong with my home".

you can't fix a problem if you don't acknowledge it (maybe AA would be good for more than just drunks). i've lived in 2 muslim countries and 6 western countries. i know what we do wrong, and i will openly admit to it and talk about it because that's the only way to make things better.

i guess some people prefer living with their heads in the sand (westerners are drunks, westerners cause all the violence in the world... )

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