It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant westerners can be sometimes. The assumption that 'progress' carries a western looking definition is in my mind typical of the thinking that gives credence to the idea that if it ain't white, it ain't right.
Butterfly - 'We are talking about educating people to be able to operate in the real world'. Whose? Yours? The real world for millions of Muslims IS gender segregated. Their reality, rightly or wrongly, is very different to yours. The idea that most Muslim women (for example) are by and large oppressed and depressed is frankly bollocks. I have met many an educated Muslim woman who understand their reality and would choose it, over any alternative. They find and enjoy educated expression within the religious and cultural parameters they freely subscribe to. So if I may.. with all due respect... much more needs to be said.
Gypsy - 'I love the "It's in our religion" argument. Last time I checked God didn't give Adam and Eve their own seperate Edens.'
Exactly what did you check? Seriously. Check again, then check yourself.
Am I for or against mixed universities in Qatar? I'm for that solution that accounts for (and celebrates!) Qatar's unique religious and cultural identity in her berth as an emerging gulf economic powerhouse. I'm for any solution she defines by herself, for herself... especially if it happens to put two fingers up at those who think they know better, just because they're not Arab.
And by the way Gypsy, by the time you get to uni, you're expected to already be an adult. The point of this tertiary level of education is first and foremost to confer certificates or accreditations that prove successful completion of an advanced course or dscipline. Yours is a high school definition wrongly applied. Your experience in 'schools' is therefore irrelevant to the debate - unless you use school to mean university. Do you?
realities is also a mistake.
It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant westerners can be sometimes. The assumption that 'progress' carries a western looking definition is in my mind typical of the thinking that gives credence to the idea that if it ain't white, it ain't right.
Butterfly - 'We are talking about educating people to be able to operate in the real world'. Whose? Yours? The real world for millions of Muslims IS gender segregated. Their reality, rightly or wrongly, is very different to yours. The idea that most Muslim women (for example) are by and large oppressed and depressed is frankly bollocks. I have met many an educated Muslim woman who understand their reality and would choose it, over any alternative. They find and enjoy educated expression within the religious and cultural parameters they freely subscribe to. So if I may.. with all due respect... much more needs to be said.
Gypsy - 'I love the "It's in our religion" argument. Last time I checked God didn't give Adam and Eve their own seperate Edens.'
Exactly what did you check? Seriously. Check again, then check yourself.
Am I for or against mixed universities in Qatar? I'm for that solution that accounts for (and celebrates!) Qatar's unique religious and cultural identity in her berth as an emerging gulf economic powerhouse. I'm for any solution she defines by herself, for herself... especially if it happens to put two fingers up at those who think they know better, just because they're not Arab.
And by the way Gypsy, by the time you get to uni, you're expected to already be an adult. The point of this tertiary level of education is first and foremost to confer certificates or accreditations that prove successful completion of an advanced course or dscipline. Yours is a high school definition wrongly applied. Your experience in 'schools' is therefore irrelevant to the debate - unless you use school to mean university. Do you?