To the "proud event organizers"

There is room to move summer olympics by a few months if required. Precedents are already set with other games by upto 3 months cos of changes in weather patterns and other influences. Lets see if the bid goes ahead first... timing is not a number one concern ;-)

Someone raised on another forum, how on earth can a country with such high summer temperatures host the Summer games. Its not like they can move them. Dubai would have the same problem, Syndney was no where near as hot as the temps here.

Did someone call me childish.....I think as I have said considering the country the games were held in they were probably as good as they could have been. There were hiccups but this is the Gulf it wasnt gonna go 100% right now was it come on.

The key learnings process is well underway... after every Games there is a post games reporting process that details all the hits and misses relating to the organising committee scope but also what could have been better done by government departments to make the next event better.

This process goes on for many months and should be concluded by June. It is then submitted to the OCA and IOC. I am sure all major concerns will be captured fairly and objectively.

Everyone wants to improve the games experience next time no matter where they are.

This is a standard procedure for legacy and will be shared with all govt departments

BTW. Not going to respond to the crude guy in the pink shirt who doesnt recognise humour when he reads it...

I find some of the comments about parking problems and distances to walk very relevant to my experiences at the Asian Games.

Now instead of people chucking blame at others or passing the buck, wouldn't it be more constructive both for Qatar Officials and for DAGOC games officials, many of whom will move on to work at future major sporting events, to take on board the "Legacy".

What went right, what went wrong and how can we do it better in the future?

The huge plusses I found were the fabulous Opening & Closing Ceremonies - real memories for a lifetime;

The friendly volunteers;

Being there and being part of it all.

The minuses - well obviousy the weather, which no one could legislate for caused major problems in a number of areas - such as even worse traffic problems, mud to wade through, and disruption to games schedules.

Other minuses were under-trained DAGOC officials, who resorted to being jobsworths instead reciting a script, rather than using interactive skills or independent iniative;

the hole in the ground, flooded toilets, lack of parking, lack of public transport - or taxis that actually knew where they were going!; traffic.

But overall it was a wonderful experience, both the games and the Qatar experiences.

Lessons Qatar can learn: build some drainage; build waterproof buildings; more public transport; bus/taxi lanes; road crossing procedures and sort out the toilets!

Lessons DAGOC and future games can learn. Take on board the criticisms and work to iron them out on future games.

Don't take on staff who just say "We did it like this in Australian or Greece; don't take on staff along for a free ride. Train your volunteers; take on sport specific experts.

Strung way to tigt bunnyhop, you should try getting some.

The venue's parking was the Game's responsibility and was non existent.

The piss poor attitude of the security and general workers dealing with the public was the Gmae's problem

The lack of available merchandise was the Game's problem.

I could keep going but you being part of the organizer's should be the last person saying you did a "splendid" job. This event was mediocre at best as evidenced by low attendance, poor morale, number of comlaints, and general lack of anyone really giving a sh** about it. Perhaps in a third world country it was well handled but by european, american, or even...oh hold on...here it comes.....Australian standards it would have been a poor showing even for a local football (soccer) tournament, not even wothry of World Cup let alone Olympic competition.

Hmmm- which personality is coming out today?

Ok so lets look at abc150 comment...

DAGOC - Doha Asian Games Organising Committee... scope of work... to organise Doha Asian GAMES. Not to build roads, build airports, or to build general city infrastructure!

Yes of course the municipality were working in co operation with us, as were urban planning, traffic police and every other government department in Qatar. Do you think we lived in a bubble and never spoke to anyone for 6 years? Do you really think Games specialists should build roads? Should build a new airport? You must be joking.

DAGOC is not responsonsible if other government departments do not deliver on time. Or in some cases, were not even scheduled to be finished for Games. The big picture for Qatar does not revolve around Doha 2006.

Im not going to say anymore... Ive got to get my bucket and spade and go out and build a bridge, a road and a whole bunch of things that are not in scope as games deliverables, however since we are being held responsible for this, might as well give it a go.

Did anyone in DAGOC ever informed anybody in municipality which roads shall be used as parking if the designated parking areas aare not going to be used as parking due to security concerns. If they were told, why was no followup done to get the roads repaired prior to start of games. Bunnyhop, it is very easy to point fingers and put blamne at others but it takes a lot of courage to admit and take responsibility for mistakes. DAGOC was an organizing committee and not a management committee for teh games. Difference being that a management committee shall come into picture only at the start and somebody else has to undertake p[reparations prior to start.

The event might have been managed with some degree of professionalism but the organization part was a disaster. This is despite the fact that a very few number of people actually came from outside to see the event.

As far as aviduser comments are concerned, he/she is childish in asking terramax etc to organize this event. The event organization was handed over to supposedly professionals and the result was expected to be professional.

Bunnyhop has a good point, after all without DAGOC its pretty unlikely that the Qataris would have been able to pull off such an event. After all if the Qataris had been in charge they would probably just be finalising the paper work, or handing round documents to be stamped.

I went to the opening and closing ceremonies and thought both were excellent, I parked at the park and ride car park at the closing and was astonished that no sooner had I gone outside there was a bus waiting to take me to the car park. AND !! there were loads of busses too, I was really impressed, why did anyone park in the mud in a car park on the road that was obviously gonna be packed ??.

Considering the country in which DAGOC had to organise such an event they should be praised, any if anyone wants to have a go out them, why don't you try organising an event of this scale in a land of one finger typists and inshallah.

Shove it?? Yr a real class act...

so lets look at your complaint in detail...

1. NO ONE is allowed to park inside the venue perimeter for security reasons, the venue is swept prior to lock down and there cannot be public or other unauthorised cars or vehicles inside the perimeter at event time. This is for your own protection and to provide a secure environment for all who attend.

2. Everything that falls outside the primary fence perimeter of venues, eg, footpaths, roads, trenches etc... are under the control of the municipality and nothing to do with the organising committee

3. The organising committee is not responsible for the heaviest rains in 43 years, though you seem to think we might be.

Lastly, boo hoo, you got your little feet wet and muddy on the way to a beautiful venue to watch a world class event. Spare a thought for the 20,000+ people who worked 16 days in rain and cold 24 hours a day. You dont hear them complaining. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Suggest that if you have real problem with yr little experience... you write a letter to the municipality and demand that area repaired for your personal comfort, and then write a letter to God and complain about the rain... instead of pointing fingers at the wrong people.

BunnyHop - shove it. If you think that having to park your car in a mud-filled trench while the designated parking is empty and closed is superb organisation, that's the only answer I can give you. Just shove it, as a part of organizing commitee or as a private individual - you chose.

I agree that a lot of the criticism of the Games is unwarrented. However, check when the organising actually started in earnest.

The original advisors who did the Sydney Olympics were retained. After delivery of the master plan at a huge cost, they were kicked out. I don't know if they were later re-engaged.

Until 2003 very little had happened. How many DG's were there before the final one Al-Qatani? Why was the Director of Overall Planning removed after only 5 weeks? He had organised the Japan/Korea World Cup and was a member of the Committee for the German World Cup.

The OCA have a lot to answer for.

Earlier commencement of "serious" planning would have identified many of the issues that eventually resulted in problems.

As part of the organising committee I am appalled at the lack of comprehension as to what it takes to organise an event of this size. Every Organising committee has a multicultural team to deliver games based on key learnings and experience. This is how they keep eveloving and improving. Any committee who thinks they can do it all themselves locally will fail. DAGOC identifid this early and assembled some of the best games professionals from across the world.

Regarding pedestrian over passes - we would have liked to install these but were not allowed due to security concerns... the Corniche and other areas are Emiri routes and cannot be secured to guarantee the safe travel of VIP's and Royal family. This was a CID decision.

Dont complain about things you nothing about - it was a superbly orgsanised event and everyone in Qatar local or otherwise should be proud.

Sorry to hear that brother. I hope you are doing O.K. i got some deep ice bengay, It will help in your pain.

I have witness 2 pan=american games, Atlanta and Barcelona Olympics and is the same crap.

The safety and accommodations of the public is fifth or none in their concerns.

The rather spend their budget in the "Athletes comforts and their staff " and screw the public safety and logical needs.

Parking space is a big issue always, Accessibility and entry points is always far away, no directional signs and a long hard walk. No maps available for the public,

Just the calendar of events and location.

Still, I went to the opening Ceremonies, a couple of events and the closing ceremonies.

After that I'm tired of any Olympic event in person. I rather watch it in T.V.

Regular Guys like you and me. They don't care.

The only ones getting over are the civilian VIP's

All they want is your cash.

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"

Gal. 4:16

I went to see an event in Aspire. I had to park my car in the mud at the left side coming from AL Waab signal. I then had to cross the main road on foot dodging the cars (no policeman there to guide the traffic, everybody on his own)to go to Aspire which is on right sode of the main road. Then I had to cross complete Khalifa Stadium and reach Aspire. Took around 30 minutes. I had two children with me who were tired by the time I reached Aspire. Same painful and tiring route after the game.

Hats off to organizers. They really have accomplished something never done before in any type of games (Olympics, Asian whatever). Spectators are more tired than atheletes by the time they reach home.

No, Ahmad, we all know the reasons. My comment was actually directed not to Qatar, but to these DAGOC imbecils who claim they are top notch specialists, while they are useless losers, who to their luck have found Qatar which they could milk for the money.

I hope that maturing process in Qatar will be fast, and Qatar will stop importing workforce which is unable to actually do what they are supposed to do, and who take offence when they are told in face who they really are.

You guys fail to see the purpose of such an event in qatar, you think it was to promote sports and actually provide a quality event? Ouch i cant laugh as hard cause my ribs hurt but that thought is hilarious.

As long as the people responsible for organizing or heads or whatever get to be on the front page of the newspapers with the headline saying in bold "most successful event in universe" then the goal has been accomplished, nobody cares if the real thing caught on fire even! It will just help lighten up the picture of the organizer's big smile on the front page.

Thank you for understnding.

I agree with you about pedestrian. Surely they can do some underpass or crossbridge. So people can just crossing the road at anytimes without disrupting the traffic. And of course less work for the police.

hey terramax hope u didnt hurt yourself bad...........the bruises usually turn up the next day when u slip or trip and fall.hope all is well..............

happy heart

drive safe cos someone is waiting for u at home

Miss Canada: of course I have positive things to say: the sport event was good, sportsmen performance was outstanding, the crowd was cheerful. It was worth going there.

Do you have anything positive to say, at all? Pitiful indeed.

And what pathetic way of thinking. You spend billions for Asian Games. Spend millions or billions in creating a Athletes Village. Never thought of creating an temporary (Permenent even better) predestrian overpass connecting Aian Games Village to the Carpark on the other side. Not even a pemporary trafic light. They simply close the road for pedestrian crossing creating a huge trafic congestions. This is simply a very dangerous hazard for both pedestrians and the vehicles using this road. Where were your top paid brains?

Poor terramax :-(

too sad to hear it, man