Racism is everywhere....

1. Yes, in other countries this ad would have not been allowed. In some countries you must also be gender sensitive.

2. Preference is a term used so as not to offend anybody.

3. HR dont want to screen a million CVs. They have to be specific according to their needs.

The fact is that we are here in Qatar and some restrictions are imposed including the availability of visas.

Discrimination would have been a better title rather than racism on the original post.

Nobody will admit that his own nationality is inferior to anyone and so this kind of thread is definitely stirring up the flame inside each and everyone of us....

I've seen worst! way worst. For example:

"Western women only"

"Women are OK"

"Must have be good-looking"

"Must have fair skin"

"Blonde hair preferred"

And the list goes on...

Its because people like me and he's jealous

It's so obvious

Right seriously....The OP is actually promoting filipinas and they are the ones who are getting annoyed. (except now the married couple of course)

Racism is when a child in your class has been brought up in such a way that he says that he doesn't want to watch a movie because it has Indian people in it.

We discuss so many issues which are in contrast to how things work here. So what is the issue in discussing the OP. BTW it was going easy until some of them without grasping the essence and in trying to prove (which they keep doing endlessly otherwise) how good they are turned the entire debate into something else. I am however, waiting for one last addition from one poster to complete this discussion from its side...:)

I am sorry azilana7037 personally but it Clearly showed how much truth can be bitter ;) PEACE and stop showing OFF, we all know NOW that you know very good English and suitable for the JOB.

Oh dear !

by the way, Manna pro u said "5 with my wife and one on the side"...wat do u mean by tat OR should i say, did anyone here asked u to reveal ur personal life and how many kids do u have and are those kids urs or ur neighbours ? :(

Answer to the point instead of telling the whole biography of urs....thank you !

Nando's angry about somethin so i'm lettin the kid vent, but after raising 6 kids (5 with my wife and one on the side) I don't have a lot of patience for kids anymore..

If he keeps running his mouth I might have to shut it.

Which one between MN/TB and MP or the OP??

Come everybody ......chillax!!

Manna if u dont have anything to do why dont u walk near the holes..i mean in the Golf course ? :(

I told Nando to shut up and relax and he went off on another childish rant-

Everyone just calm down!

Agree with prism I actually look forward to his new posts

lol...heard of cat fights now this is what, doggie fight...:) Chill guys, dont get jealous of Manna Pro, I somehow now like his attitude...:)

well you are right that "Racism is everywhere" but what i understand by this add it's not a matter of racism might be the company have the approval for this nationality from labour department that's why they are asking about Filipino but its only my guess might be there is some thing els

The pst was not about racism, but about a company advertising in a certain manner. If you read my earlier post , I said as much. I believe that by taking offence, you turned it into something it wasn't...

Where is Fillipino bashing or is it difficult to digest the truth and so all this nonsense that followed...pathetic people.

But this guy (and his kind) is one chauvinistic, sorry excuse for having a brain.

Everyone just calm down..Lets all just relax- There are no racists here.

except maybe MarcosNadoz

Azi's on a tear! You go, girl!

Mandi

You have 'all the intentions' of being personal...and you have nothing against filipinos?

Don't wish PEACE when you start a war...

LMFAO

Guys it is really gettin funny and I am not going to bother about it. I told clearly i have nothing against Filipino, It was just an example i gave, It could have been someone else if on the AD some other nationality mentioned.

I know how Filipino work and I also work in a company where we have people of different natinoalities including philippines. It was just an example. My point of view was that Why not we just give everyone equal oppurtunity either he or she is from which ever nationality, as long as he or she fulfill the criteria.

P.s. One more time I mention that please dont get personal for any reason because It will never be good for anyone ... PEACE

Well if filipino is a race then Jamaicans are a race. lol. If someone prefers to hire a specific nationality that's their preference. I know in Qatar there are expats that afraid to touch blacks so are you going to blog how racist they are? lets face it racism exists and i am afraid it will never go away, they abolished slavery but they can never abolish racism.

So JA Girl tell me, isn't there a tinge of racism when somebody questions the ability of a particular nationality to do work and when an employer prefers them?

I'am one of the major supporters of hiring Filipino workers in my company even though I'am an Indian. Am I to be considered a racist?

JA Girl Yes I do know what racism is. Let me share the definition to you:

Racism:

- The belief that some races are inherently superior (physically, intellectually, or culturally) to others and therefore have a right to dominate them.

- abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief.

Race:

- any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.

- an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape.

Taking the above into consideration, Filipino is a race.

:) Well I will take that as a compliment Max!

Don't think anyone finds it funny A ....maybe thing have been taken the wrong way. Perhaps they were only trying to compliment ur nationality. Don't let it stress you.

Lol Mt ur post r fun to read and spice up QL

Does anyone know what RACISM is? Filipino is a nationality not a race so there is evidently no racism in this. Race is blacks white etc. I have personally experienced racism at the schools in Doha and it wasn't because of my nationality. My family is black and are being treated differently so if shahzad_14 wants to experience racism come and live in my world.

and I don't find it funny either...

Others would flip their lid if its about something about Pakistanis or Indians....and you reacted? I REST MY CASE

I'm a Filipina, and I got a job because of what I know and I didn't get my job because someone of the same nationality happens to work in that same company.

I can brand people RACIST (of their own race) when they say "I am British" or I'm American" (bcoz they have a US or British passport) when everyone can see the one saying that looks very much of a different nationality.

Guess what??? I'm flipping my middle finger to those who posted above that Filipinas get hired because of good looks and "whatever"....HOW DARE YOU!!!

Just ignore A & take the positive that Filiapinas must all be beautiful :)

LOL....yup I'm still here!!! aww did you miss me :P

I think i get your drift boy-next-door, sometime ago a thread was opened here accusing Pinoys of guess what, racism, for renting rooms for Pinoys only. I don't really understand why they're hitting on Pinoys only when everyone else is guilty of doing the same thing?

Shahzad_14 You are not only a liar but a hypocrite as well. This is what you wanted all along. You posted this because you simply cant tell directly what you have in mind why they prefered this nationality. Then you waited for others to comment and was happy when somebody insinuated something else. Now you are saying that you're sorry. Dont take people here on QL for fools.

If I needed an office assistant here, I would go for a Philippina, if I needed a sales manager, I would prefer a Brit. For an engineer, I would hire an Indian...and so on.

Now, for the management it makes sense to hire someone that gives them a higher chance of getting maximum work or benifit out of the employee spending the minimum possible on him/her.

I feel this is not racism...they prefer nationalities for some obvious reasons.

MT u still here I thought u quit QL or something

So it's scots vs filpinos?

No no!! The Scots are superior :P :)

Exactly my point in the earlier post thak u Brit

Everyone calm down now...Just calm down.

We will revisit this subject later after everyone cools off

WE all get what yall so desperately wish to say about Filipina gals but so frikin scared from the mod's banning you. So if you can't have balls to actually come out with it, you might as well STOP beating round the bush!

Yeh Birt. are U? huh huh!

I think that your comment "We work our time and even more...WE GET PAID LOWER...and because we need a job/visa, we grab the job HOPING we'll get a raise along the way.

I dont say that all Filipinos speak fluent English, some of them not but they could communicate well.

Hygiene...no offense meant to anyone, but Filipinos have better hygiene practices.

Could be construed in a similar manner. Are you saying that other nationalities are unhygenic and don't work hard ?

You think the reason why they prefer FILIPINA is because of THEIR PHYSICAL APPEARANCES AND OTHERS????

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES

You guys will fly off the handle when an Indian or a Pakistani get the bashing....hah!!!

and I advertised the vacancy here on QL Classifieds.

But I stated that:

1. We don't have Indian visa allowance,

2. if they're applying for a position other than what we are looking for, no need to send as its a waste of time for me and to them...

Guess what, I still receive CV's other than what we're looking for.

Maybe people should start TELLING THE TRUTH in their resumes coz most of what I encounter as of late, are either half-truths or lies. Quite exasperating, actually.

Regarding your questions about why the hiring company prefers Filipinas, think about it:

We work our time and even more...WE GET PAID LOWER...and because we need a job/visa, we grab the job HOPING we'll get a raise along the way.

I dont say that all Filipinos speak fluent English, some of them not but they could communicate well.

Hygiene...no offense meant to anyone, but Filipinos have better hygiene practices.

AND the ads said 'with basic accounting skills"...geez..the company isn't looking for a "secretary", they're looking for an OFFICE ASSISTANT who could do 'secretarial, clerical, basic accounting, front desk, etc".

By the way, it is stated in the Ql guidelines: Think before you post... Obviously, you're not thinking.

Lol TB that was for humanresources not for you ;)

"Next time better not to be personal coz that will really not lead to something good for your too coz on public forum anyone can say anything"

What did I say that was personal? I have just read the thread back through and at no point did I even address you directly.

First of all Brother! sister! or who ever you are humanresources.doha, I don't wanted to harm anyone and I did not say anything bad about the Filipino as well, I*t was just an Example i gave. Dont take it personal and Next time better not to be personal coz that will really not lead to something good for you too coz on public forum anyone can say anything

Chill shahzad_14, you have nothing to worry about ;)

I am really SORRY to whom ever this post offended :( I just wanted to share something wrong in my point of view which may or may not be correct

This is not racism. This is honesty ;)

Well, worker camps and sponsor system would not be allowed either...it all goes hand in hand.

You are right to question it. This type of overt advert would not be allowed in the UK or USA ..

Shahzad we don't have anything against them either) This is life!

I think you guys are taking it wrong, I posted the picture coz that is what i found in the newspaper but I dont have anything against Philippines. It was just an example.

Hm...Money is not an issue?!They can hire one for less money.Nothing to discuss I guess...

Brit, it's Venezuela not Vuvuzuela! Lol!

It's true. I did a little research and it seems that you, I , Rizks and Miss Mimi are all related to Mr. OOmithingie Vuvuzela from the nether regions of Africa :O)

There is one more reason which all of you guys forgot. It is the money factor. They can hire two Filipinas who can do that job well at the cost of one from any other Nationalities available.

We all come from Africa (apparently) so stop bickering

No. I strong disagree with both of you Mo 'n Max. I think the Ape race is the best and most complex one. Too bad none of you could evolve far enough!

HHHHHHHHH.

max1986 said

All the filpino comments r so funny they really do believe they r better race

I agree FILIPINO are better race and hardworking!! :)

bad things about filipinos,they still prefer to hire them and am not surprised...

Max1986- none of my comment says that we (Filipinos) are a better race, so stop generalizing.

some but not all :)

sound like the racist now... stay cool...

All the filpino comments r so funny they really do believe they r better race

if they put your nationality as the preferred candidate, would you be reacting the same?

HR departments run their ads based on the level of their needs. There are many factors considered and does not in any way mean to inflict harm to anybody.

You began your post with a curse, this is ONE THING that is truly not Filipino and that is the reason maybe for the preference.

Shame on you for blaming others and showed your true nature of being a racist.

Can i apply??

and so they cry racism.. i guess the only reason the company wanted a filipina is because they had a good experience with filipina workers or with reference to the ad a filipina secretary... there are so many factors and all you cry out is racism... have a look at urself in the mirror and ask this "Is my nationality that stupid that they prefer other nationalities for that position?" and maybe you will be surprised on your own answer...

it's 100% genuine artificial gold Rizks

I am always looking for models damsel, consider it done ;)

how much carat of gold is it TB ? :(

LoL at TB - ;), now get that camera of your's for a mug shot of me with my gold star pinned on my collar ;-P

I saw one advert from the UAE, that states: No filippinos please..its irrational lol

I saw other job post that prefers Indians, Sri Lankans, Arab National and other nationalities. So I think it depends on the visa availability.

damselindistress gets the gold star

OP- will it makes you feel better knowing that we just hired an Indian national? We put an ad "preferably Indian" because that's the only visa available in our company.

So probably, that's the exact same reason with the preference.

And how come it becomes ok to you when they prefer to hire "locals" and not ok with you when they prefer Filipinos? Double standard?

Guess you are right, "Racism is everywhere" and it's reeking from your post. ;)

then it's against the US law.

Now, if you print a copy of a relevant Qatari Law that says this is also not acceptable here, please do so. I tell you, very few companies here are considered "equal-opportunity" companies. maybe you can count that in your fingers even without mine.

Its turning out to be a funny post to me NOW and I really like that every single person is having a soft corner for Philippines and reason can be find under the EXLegend comments " besides... its clear request for a filipina not hard to imagine why... :P"

all the fellow pinoy qlers are busy texting kabayans looking for job ... :D:D:D

The original advertiser must be loving all the extra publicity. They are probably inundated with enquiries now.

its easier for companies to hire philipina nationals and now added to the list is Sri Lankans ... talkin about asians... hence... considering the package they will be convinced for... most organization do prefer these specific nationals for regular jobs... its nothing offensive at all.

besides... its clear request for a filipina not hard to imagine why... :P

The ad is somewhat discriminating but not racist. It’s not prohibited to express your preference in an ad anyway. Reason for their preference is the management’s business but to give you example you can refer to Strom, Sambsk or Alien_guest’s comments:)

Look MN i USED THE WORD Sterio Type many times. Its how Employers Think also there are other factors like availability of Visa's Etc Etc I did not others are uneducated Douchebag So said that .......

Well then how come you are not answering my question? alien guest /: like the western counterpart!

So basically what you are saying is that everybody who’s not western or Filipino is an illiterate douchebag?

No mn you cant you cant stop me from pushing Buttons.....

Risks LOL I am guessing she is from south India and i am looking forward to trying Masala Dosa and Idly LOL..... look mn I am Sterio Typing.

alien_guest : I just made u shut up didn't I :D

As i said in my Post, It has nothing to do with me personally. Neither I hate them nor I am looking for a job but what I found in that is not Right. The rest is how an individual want to take it.

I hope no one becomes a VICTIM of it .... PEACE

lol risks

MN AHHH so you do look for comments to bash back i will keep this in mond LOL!!!!!!!!!

alien_guest, i have a bootiful Indian lady secretary at my Emporium who puts half liters of coconut oil on her head with lil oil dripping back from her ears frm head and wears sareee with a 8pack of abs oozing out - but tat doesnt matter a lot after all she is beautiful in apperance, speak good level of english and very organized in her work !

alien guest /: like the western counterpart!

So basically what you are saying is that everybody who’s not western or Filipino is an illiterate douchebag?

well Chill..dude.... I know its upsetting when Ad says balh balah nationality is preferred...there got to be two reasons

1) they only have visas for the filipines...

2) they r biased

we have many threads before where it is mention that here in qatar passport talks ....

Well not to be racist... but Filipinos are good in customer service, they always smile and brings with them positive energy. I personally only hire Filipinos for administrative or customer service issues... again its not a racism, its a preference !!!

Fillipina Secretary look very beautiful in appearance... they speak good level of english and seem to be very organised Like the Westerm Counterpart thats why the Steriotype. Thats why the Choice... :)

Ahhh... so they are guilty of sexism as well then Rizks.

and by the way, they are lookin for a lady secretary and you are a Male, so why bother ? :)

you're the one who's taking it personal.. that is simply my opinion.. :)

Greenblue23! I hope you are not trying to get personal here coz trust me you will not be able to take it later on

to All those who say we should not JUDGE before knowing the whole story then tell me one logical reason why they said FILIPINO Preferred ?

What can be the best answer from a recruitment Point of View to say Filipino Preferred ..?

There's a reason behind everything...:)

look at your attitude.. then we'll see why they prefer to have Filipino as employees :)

Agree with MN ...it does say to the non-Filipina applicants to eff off!!

flor1212:Tagalog-speaking nanny" would be a reasonable request in a Filipino administered business but the ads you're citing sound unlawful.

Well and not to mention the fact that people who specifically wish to find a Filipina housekeeper/ Security/ secretary / Salesperson etc seem deeply suspect to me

check "Community Guidelines" rule No. 5

http://www.qatarliving.com/guidelines

A gold star for anyone who can produce a similar advertisement with another expat nationality preferred.

"Preferably" is a standard phrase used instead of "only" in such ads.

unless we know the exact reason behind this preference, we cannot assume racism!

My mom is filipina...i didn't ask my father why?? lol!

Rizks: Preferred is the light-hearted way of tellin the (the non-Filipina applicant) to eff off! lol

undertsand what "preferably" means! Lol!

its says 'Preferably Filipina' not 'ONLY filipina'...:)

they might have a reason (or several) to prefer a nationality above others. But in the end the ad does not says something like "restricted to filipino applicants only"

Why not send them an email and ask WHY only preference given to Filipino.

Regards!!