Please help to ban a website (Against Islam)

banning is not the answer, they have a chat tab, go in their and spam....we dont need people telling us what we can or can not read, we dont need people telling us what is or is not offensive, and i might get flamed for this, but who give a hoot, when you see a site that slams what you believe in, go in, read it, study it, research the facts that they provide, know what the other sides thinks for a change, and then come up with a response, problems with arabs is the refusal to take in any other point of view other than their own, hence the reason arabs are portrayed as backward and extremists....

Why ban it?

Muslims aren't going to have their perceptions of Islam altered by videos posted on the internet.

And people around the world who are anti-Islam don't live in Qatar, so banning it here won't make any real difference.

The only point you may end up proving is that Muslims are xenophobic people who can't bear the notion of other people having an opinion of their own. That's not a reputation you ought to aspire to.

well said tallg.

That's what living in a censored world can do to SOME people - you are unable to grasp the concept of others having a different view from you and believing different things. Hence if it is doesn't agree with your views it must be banned!

Regardless of whether what's said in the video is right or wrong, it's just someone's view. You don't have to agree with it. But you don't have to ban it either.

tabrez - read the comments people took the time to write in response to your post, and then you'll know how to request the site is blocked.

I will help ban any site that insults any religion WHEN AND IF there is religious tolerance all round. But then when that happens there would be no need for threads like this!

Comeon mates .. There are things we like and we dont like on net. Choose what you want , and ignore the rest!!!

Bashing religion,race..etc are not freedom of speach anyway.

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thanks bro correction done

Hello dmigtysolomon,

plz read the email below to get ur answer. This is just for ur info that i m too a silent member of that group but sumthing which is wrong a voice shud b raised other wise this kind of things get increased.

Hello Boon (Owner of the group),

I request you to please remove this below video from our site... This can cause big Controversy in our group.

Or if you really wanna put it you can see the debates in our group. I know that definately there will be a big debate on this. But as far as I know about MHO it does not have any religion but this video will definately hurt all the muslims brothers and sisters in this group. So, I am not opposing of any religion but just asking you to avoid such Videos which claims Mohammed (P.B.U.H) wrong and hurt any person of any religion.

My Muslim brother, Sisters & all MHO friends Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

The link for the Video

http://mumbaihangout.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2831&Itemid=35

Boon looking forward for your action on this.

Regards,

Tabrez

I think your wording is wrong

"just asking you to avoid such Videos which PROVES Mohammed (P.B.U.H) wrong "

change "proves" to "claims"

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

My Freind,

I am not taking the initiative step bcoz I dont know how to do it. In fact, I already requested the owner of it to remove that video from his site. He never replied. So I am looking for a scource where every on should come to know what kind of group it is we have many of our muslim friends in that group who are unaware of this. I just need a scource from where I can just tell them all about this video they will automatically put pressure on that owner to remove it from his site. That guys emial id is [email protected] I request if he gets many emails from our side on removing that video he will definately remove it...

DMS, Muslims do get upset when people insult the Prophet Jesus (PBUH), check out the "Return of the Jesus" thread, that was a doozey.

I also would like to see such sites shit down, but reality dictates otherwise. I also have to put the shoe on the other foot. Back in Canada some people dont take well to my Gaza opinions, but I get to say what I feel and at least be respected for taking a stand. If everything was censored due to one group or another be offended we would actually live in a sad world. We are educated by such things. In this instance, this has raised awareness in people, and also motivated the poster to defend his religion. In doing so, maybe he will research, study etc... In some instances, the people posting this stuff dont know they are wrong. Maybe the poster will contact them and they will too be educated.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

there are misguiding hadeeths, even fake Quran

how can you block them

Read this fabricated verse

The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)

Koran ( 9:11 ) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah;

instead of insulting and bashing others religions ...

Why don't these people just speak of their religion, let the others know about their religion and make it something informative instead of building such websites for nothing but spreading hatred and bad feelings?

There is nothing wrong about talking about your religion, how great it is or let the others know what do you believe in ...

The bad thing is when you would be from another religion and design a website to insult and attack others believes ...

Of course ... no one would appreciate the other religion as it make sense only to it's followers no matter what is it all about.

What would not make sense to you, would make to the others ...

So nothing here but Respecting the other religion and believes.

Making fun or questioning why others can't speak bad about others religion ... Is totally a different story ...

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

ahh... same old religion fights :(

the substance of my question?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

omg! again bans, boycotts... kindergarten...

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You can be with him all you like. At the most he might be able to ban the site here in Qatar, but the rest of the world will still see it. :)

everyone have their own openion, some people chose to take action some ppl may just stay quite, the gentleman who posted this post is part of fist catagory and I for one are with him

There are thousands of sites on the web that insult my beliefs, I simply don't read them, or if I do read them and well I don't agree with and am insulted by what they say I know they are entitled to what they believe.

I don't agree with Holocaust denial sites, but I'm not out there trying to shut them down because the people who make them have a right to their opinions.

I personally dont' agree with a single thing posted on Islam online and find much of it personally insulting, but I'm not trying to shut that down either, I just don't read it.

The only sites which should be shut down are in which someone is physically hurt in the creation of it, ie: child pornography sites.

Dmight, Islam teachs us not only to respect our religion but also other religions, sure i will react most if someone attack my home but will also not particapte and condmn if someone is unjustifying insulting other religions as long as this do not contradict with my religions basics

if somebody "insult" Jesus or any other prophet that you also recognized, will you react the same?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Ignorance is a bliss......, let the dogs bark.

Not really, irf77. But they have a "healthy" attitude towards sex and therefore they are not animated by the "sick" paople on the net.

Those of you think its ok as part of Freedom of speeech i am sure if i use something wrong against one of the user which is unjustified, the individuals will be the first one to say what the hell this guy is taking ban him/her.

For the information of non-muslims to us our Prophet Peach Be upon him is more important than own selfs.

MD, I am sure they must have alerted you Papa we are going to see A** S** today,

My kids have full access to every Internet site. I have never seen them on a porn website. How come?

I could not even found a 'Contact Us' link in that wonderful website!

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

Only Love & Respect of Others Make us Human.

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The countries which practice "Free of speech"; also have Free of Speech Acts approved by the representatives of its citizens. QTel freedom of speech policy should be driven by some kind of Qatar Freedom of Speech Act. However, I do not think it’s the case as it allows the respective site to be visited along with many others, but restricts access to sites such as www.qatarsucks.com 

In my personal view – there should be no sensor on any site except adult/ child pornographic materials and sites. Rest of the decision should be left to the citizens. By not visiting a site, we are proofing our point. For adult site – they are visual – and our kids are vulnerable to such explicit visual images just by hitting a few buttons or clicks.

that's why I hold you high for your views. But of course, religion should be always taken in general, not individually. Because if it is individually, then what's the need for the religion? One's personal conviction is under the umbrella of the religion. One must comply with all the basic doctrines, if not, then why the need to stay? Sometimes, Amoud, you just need to read between my lines to understand our conviction.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

DMS, I have ALWAYS had this opinion... you are generally an argumentative soul.... something good must have happened to you today :D

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

"I think it is deplorable to insult the Prophets of Islam, Christianity and Judaism but some people just aint got no morals sometimes. I will speak my mind about how I feel about their comments but I do feel they are entitled to them even if I dont want to hear them."

Now, you are speaking like me!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Da - so you'd rather someone made the decision for you, choosing what you can and can't read?

Personally I prefer to be able to make those choices myself, and draw my own conclusions about what I read.

It is not that I agree Da, it is just tricky to censor.

For instance, I think Scientologists are insane (have you seen the silent birthing that is required?) I am free to say so correct? It is just my opinion, it may be complete crap but it is what it is (Tom Cruise will be suing me soon for this one).

I think it is deplorable to insult the Prophets of Islam, Christianity and Judaism but some people just aint got no morals sometimes. I will speak my mind about how I feel about their comments but I do feel they are entitled to them even if I dont want to hear them. _____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

mary - so that would be Qatar Living blocked then!

so insulting showing no respect towards a religion is also known as FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

you guys are really great

While we're blocking that website can we block the ones that give bogus medical information, spread rumors about products/companies/people that are untrue, give incorrect information about visas/immigration, etc.etc.etc.

tallg I would be in big S**t if I would do that too.. so the safest option for me was to get mosiac, at least she cant blame me..lol

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Vally, if you start to censor what some people find disrespectful it makes the whole concept of freedom of speech redundant.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Freedom of speech doesn't mean to show disrespect to other religions.

Yes, but look how much the dog enjoys chasing that car!

Lol, you know Tallg, it happened to me a few years back, only it was my toddler who was flicking through the channels. Honest, thats how I know it is there, not because I am closet Italian porn fiend lolol.

Now I am hijacking, I dont get the porn thing... As someone once said, "It is like a dog chasing a car he will never drive"

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Try using that line with my wife Amoud - "Honest dear, I just stumbled upon it accidently"!

why many people attack Islam and Prophet Mohammed ( Peace and Prayers of ALLAH be upon him) ?

we have the same conviction, God/Allah first before man.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

LOL, Tallg if you got one of those hotboxes you can actually be flipping through the channels on a Saturday morning looking for cartoons and stumple upon dodgy Italian porn. ____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

tallg well said mate..

exactly..where is the censorship on these TV channels..lol

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well said MJ..

Plus I could not see any comments on this website appart from the headings.. Plus there are more than 200 millions muslims in India, who I am sure will also pursue this..

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DMS, as per your own advice you may also be very cautious as to how you generalize and group us all into the same ball of yarn. There are nutters everywhere my friend, but being in an Islamic country you will definately find people more verbal about this sort of thing as many do feel that as Islam is the pre-dominatory religion of the country that perhaps it should be respected a little more on the homefront.

DMS, you come into almost every post and throw in the "lack of muslim religious tolerance" card and expect what? Thanks from the sites muslim community? ____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

And the funny thing about Showtime is that they'll show an 18 movie late at night, but then repeat it at lunchtime the next day. There's nothing like a bit of full frontal nudity with your cheese sandwich!

you're asking for someone to take the initiative, why dont you do it?

Need to be very cautious. Our tolerance as Christians as compared to yours is really wide, my friend. I don't know if you will agree with me or not! Depends also on your personal tolerance?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Use a two-way Internet by Satellite connection and say goodbye to Q-Tel.

Very true Tallg, and IMO if people dont want to look at this stuff, simply use parental control on your PC at home. Heck, if Q-tel wanted to they could offer a control prog to those who want it.

I must say I dont mind them blocking porn sites, but hate when they block medical sites and freaking lingerie sites but allow us to all have showtime, which is pretty uncensored (Anyone see Forgetting Sarah Marshall?)____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Why ban? we should be mature to judge by ourselves.

My friend back home was getting a medical procedure done *AHEM* down there! and she and I were discussing it online and when I tried to open the websites she was sending me they were all blocked. I was really concerned that Q-Tel is worried people will get off to pictures of surgury.

If I were a Qatari I would find the sort of censorship we experience here quite insulting. They're basically saying that people aren't intelligent enough to make their own educated decisions over what they read and what they believe. And by censoring stuff they just make people more determined to find a way to view it.

There is Internet censorship in Qatar? Honestly, this can't be with all the committees for Human Rights and Press Freedom that are regularly awarded by the UN. You guys must be joking.

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or "perceived" wrong words against their Prophet! Let us just be cautious!

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

I think Q-tel use a third party company to choose which sites are blocked. Q-tel just supply a list of topics/keywords etc and the company sends back a list of what to block. Some things slip through, others are blocked inadvertently. Q-tel can block/unblock individual sites if you request them to (they unblocked my blog once I pointed it out to them).

You know Gypsy, I actually emailed them and told them that the What to Expect site shouldnt be banned etc... they did unblock it. I think they have some weirdo with a filter engine that bans sites based on text content.

Muppets (you now have me hooked on that word lol).

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Q-Tel bans a lot of medical information sites. I was very disappointed to see that. :(

Although I hate to see these websites I have to agree with Gypsy, there are many sites saying negative and inacurate things but it is their perogative. We are the ones responsible for what we read and how we perceive it.

Only thing that miffs me about this is the Q-tel didnt ban it and they banned the "What to expect when your expecting" website.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

So what. Freedom of speech and all that.

QL cant help you, report it to Q-Tel, they have a link on their site.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"