12,000QR a good salary?

Hey man,

good luck and hope you can safe some money with that salary. If you want a nornal social life a single man must get at least QR18-20k.

Cheers

By comparison, Western Expatriate in the O & G are getting 5 times more. So which industry will you be in? 12K if less your food, clothing, social life, car payment will be left half of it. Unless you are not sending money home, or doing travel on your own..sud be ok.

LOL, shopaholics anonymous? lol, these women who buy these wonderful beautiful shoes and walking in pretty much sanded desert area is wasteful

Why be here???

Or way more than you can save at home???

I mean I understand a people have to send money back to family but you should still be saving something...

You can't get back these years....

The best in our life...

You can't teach experience...

You can't teach experience...

@shoe

shopaholics anonymous? isn't that a little vain of us? LOL

forgot to say goodluck to nadine...are we on the brink of forming SHOPAHOLICS ANONYMOUS?lol

when are they forming a committee on fashionistas?

ooh i like those linen shirts! i do the linen thing too you know-- linen dresses for me when im at the beach! yeah shoeaddict..according to her, she's quite simple (re: not do lotsa shopping or socializing..hence eating and drinking out). well i say, good for her! QR12K is good enough compared to pressumably, not having a job back in the US (i just learnt that seconds back). i hate and love this gotta-have-a-new-stuff addiction. good luck to your new life in the gulf, nadine!

thanks for asking...."friend" post adverts herself as "hotness with status"...

im soo glad that i share the same "discipline" with you.not that i bought dresses,,,lol but i bought several linen shirts coz theyre so "IT" right now.

maybe nadinenana can help share with our problem...lol

its more than good go ahead

@shoeaddict

hey hello there. the answer to your question is well..yesterday, i went to buy new dresses. im not disciplined with money.

how's that problem of yours with that "friend" whom you took out of your list? weren't you the one talking about that in an another thread?

when was the last time you splurged on yourself?im now officially a recessionista...lol

@nadinenana

well if it's double than what you are earning now, well i guess that's good enough for you. which country will you be coming from? don't expect to be able to save up a lot right away coz the cost of living is pretty expensive.

we should be friends if youre earning that much....lol

if youre practical and with a license, loan a car,so you could reach work on time...is this post old or what?

well if ur getting the acco pls chk wat type is tht...furnished family acoo or bachelors one etc....

-if u buy a car on loan a decent car like civic or corolla etc wud cost around 2-2.5k per month + maintenance + petrol == 0.5-1k max ( pls note that without ur own vehicle its like impossible to move arnd in doha)...

- food for single wud cost bn 800-1500 qr depends...

- misc - partying + mobile + inyternet + elec ==1k

So living a pretty gud life with all partying & travelling etc u will spend around 4k (if single of course)at max

so wat remains is savings of ard 8-9k QR which is pretty gud by asian standards ( no hard feelings)

rgds

nitin

AV

12k is pretty good to start life here.

Your lifestyle is a factor .

hehehehe waddup mate!

Turns out I am her boss fancy that !!!

Joking :)

But you also don't know if she can meet those exemptions and the burden of proof is on her.

I am just tired of the assumption that Qatar is a tax free work place - for some yes and for others no. Any one coming should come armed with the facts not the assumption that you pay no taxes.

You still have to pay Social Security (is it FICA or MICA??). No such thing as a free lunch.

We are in agreement I'm just elaborating.....

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oh really can you

thats great then.

Bring 1kilo Sheron Stone

Bring 2kilo penelop

Bring 3kilo Shania twain

Bring Half Kilo Hilary Duff

Bring 10kilo Christina

that will do

Thanks

Doha will not be a new place for you to live in ....

You are coming during the start of Summer.. so your few months of summer might be boring here since there will be less outdoor activities .... ah i forgot you are an indoor lady ;-)

QR. 12000 plus housing is not bad... am sure you will have loads of fun here ... sp. you will find your culture and religion activities more here :-D

vegas, the accommodation will be provided by the company...

Braveheartqatar, cosmetics and outings.. what else? travelling, etc. - don't worry about it, leave those problems for her future boyfriend.. ;)

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Unlike the idiots that take out car loans n personal loans n the n are stuck here...

I think she is moving to an equal position that she has in the states..Doesn't sound like an upward move...

With the economy in the states she could be bankrupt n just running away...Believe me it is bad there....

She knows what she is doing...

You can't teach experience...

Maybe I missed something, but how can you guys comment on "how low" or "how high" a salary is if you have no idea what type of position she has accepted. Yes, if she took a senior management position for QR 12K she could have negotiated more, but if she took an entry level position she should count her blessings.

Despite what some people believe, being a US Citizen doesn't automatically grant you an executive salary. If she is making the same amount in the States and has almost no expenses here it isn't a bad move. It may be an experience she doesn't enjoy, but you will never know until you try it.

The only comment that scares me is "if I don't like it I can always leave". Please make sure you have done your homework on local labor laws, once your company sponsors you, you need their permission to leave the country. If you happen to get a company that doesn't want to issue an exit visa you may not be able to just get on a plane and return to the US.

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If she share accomodation she will be fine...

Sounds like she coming here for the experience

Not to get rich....Just find a place close to work n walk

Or get driver...500QR a month?

If you share a flat you can get for 1500...

Just depends on your standards...

Hell she might be paycheck to paycheck in the USA...

You guys think USA is paradise???

Think twice...

You can't teach experience...

the salary offered to you is very low as compared to other nationalities from the western world.although you're single ,it might be more expensive,cosmetics and travel on weekends counts a lot on your budget,so its really depends on your lifestyle,try to negotiate for a better pay so that at least you may enjoy the life of a single in a free tax country..anyway,expect for the best and prepare for the worst...good luck and welcome to qatar..

When you are coming anywayz.......?

NOw please AVIDUSER do not think i m planning to drop her from airport to her PLACE ;)

Wallah now, Aviduser, i had a heartattack because i saw what you wrote on another thread. btw, do you really work for Aljaz? and what do you do for them?

Darude-as they say in arabic, "3ala raseh"- on my head is the literal translation ...hahaha, meaning, if there's anything special you want me to get from the states for ya, i'd be happy to:)

Qatarisun-habibti-thanks again for being reassuring:) wallah you ARE a nijmeh ya amoura!

Dracula-PLLLLEEEASSSEE don't suck my bloood...ahhahahaha :p

Rebel-i agree, it is a reasonable pkg, mish great, but elhamdulilah once they see that i am a hard worker and very motivated, then who knows---the sky's the limit! besides, im so sick of being in the US! I'd like to experience living in the mideast as an adult. My family left lebanon during the war when i was 7, and I've only visited the mideast for a couple of months at a time. I want to experience ramadan in an arabic speaking country, learn arabic calligraphy, etc...besides, im single and this is the best time to make this kind of move. SO, ALL in ALL, I AM READY DOHA! HERE I COME! HEAR ME ROAR!!hehehe...its only 2pm here in Washington, DC, so killing time b4 i head home to pack more things:) hehehe...

stick on my bloody-gift, boss! :P

no you need to bring 3 suitcases. the third one should be full of gifts for us all who commented on this topic except aviduser and dracula :D

hey the salary here is tax free and if they are providing you accomodation then its just a reasonable package but not so good but i hope it will be a great experience for you to work here...there are many ways of keeping urself busy..yeah for us its boring sometimes as we are staying here for a long time but for new people like you there is so much to explore here..and even if you buy your own car on installment it will not gonna cost you more then 3000 monthly depending on which car you buy ..this is the minimum i told you....the biggest issue over here right now is accomodation...for a flat of 2 bedroom the minimum rent is 7000QR so you can guess how much a single room will cost..your main issue has been already resolved before you arrive .......hope you will join the volleyball team of QL members too..hehe...enjoy urself..cheers!!!

Really AVIDUSER go get a life :|

aviduser, why is that?.. first, 12,000 before accommodation... second, what's wrong with 3000-3500 bucks a month, basically NET?

She will need about QR 2000-2500 for routine monthly expenses and another QR2000 for the car. Put extra QR1000 here and there...That is it.

Don’t forget, you guys need much more for outings: for yourself and for us girls… We need nothing ;)

and hey.. "single" is relevant condition and not something unchangeable ;) especially for girl in qatar ;)

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ALJAZEERA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well boys I'll take this one, I work there too, I can show you around, take you to the right places, make sure you get seen to properly.

Silly me, come on over.

Cool down, man...

whats wrong with you :/

please explain yourself, why is it a bad idea?? Just curious-not that you'll change my mind...im already in the process of moving:)

bestinbusiness-of course i wont forget the friend thing **wink....

DaRude: i am definitely NOT a shopaholic...if anything, i HATE shopping and just bringing 2 suitcases and 2 boxes w/me anyway, i dont plan on buying my clothes from qatar, as i hear its expensive and i already have everything i need (elhamdulillah).

For the rest, thanks for the encouragement. At the end of the day, you guys are right, i want to try something new, and working for Al-Jazeera isn't a bad thing, ya3ni;) plus, im an american citizen and i can come back and find something in the states, if i should change my mind:)....

How this poor girl who presently lives in THE USA can make her life BETTER here on 12,000 A month.

You can't do it and to encourage that is unfair, unjust and wrong. If she wants adventure move to a different City in the USA.

Essentially you are encouraging a girl to move here be leered at everywhere she goes and then for her to pack it in after 6 months having saved nothing.

AHHHH don't tell me though you have all PM'ed her offering to "show her around" "take care of her" etc etc.

Appalling behaviour seriously shameful.

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/443999 check this OUt for some more FUN

I guess it's not enough to get a easy life here coz this 12000 will be for me :) JK...btw welcome to the hell :D...

I fixed the damgae to my car myself anyway...

He has to pay to fix his company car...

Why they give him such a nice car if he onloy make 1200?

Give him an ole beater...

Anyway 12,000 not bad...

Bed space n save

You can't teach experience...

Here comes the Dude oh sorry DARUDE....

I totally agree with DARUDE

AVIDUSer! can you be more specify why you think that way...? IF you do not mind OFCOURSe

Avid, the full thread of conversations will clear yr doubt. Someone wants to try something new and she has the courage, so why not?

whats so bad if she is earning 12000 per month she is single she isnt going to be spending all well if she is not a shopaholic then. well getting an experinece and change is also better some times in life. so chill pal be cool.

Encouraging this poor single to move to Qatar for 12,000 Rials a month. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Seriously

Nice to see all this interaction

DO not forget that FOOD thing Nadi .....:D

Wish you good luck miss!

PS - I do not live in Qatar anymore but do love to be in touch with happenings there.

yea, i am certainly going to go for it! I am also hoping for the best and everything else is in God's hands:) Im glad to know that i have great people like you guys helping me figure things out here:) {{{{{GROUP HUG}}}}YIPPYYYY

take the chance, i agree....well it happened with me too when i started overseas 5 years back....thought of exploring new possibilities & changed few jobs (with countries) to land up here in Canada. it's not the end though, so take the plunge without burning the bridges!

oh, nadinecheaib , this is my motto, and i love it: the moment i got fed up with that, i pack up my stuff and get off the hell here.. :):)... but.. so far I am here for 2 and a half years.. ;) and let me tell you, it's addictive :)

on the other hand, if you didn't try it you might regret to the rest of your life…. that you have missed your chance... so go for it.. take it as an adventure and challenge, it will be easier..

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thanks again on helping me figure this out...after all, if i dont like it, i can always move back .....

I'm having same salary as i'm living with my wife and expecting CHILD within few months. I have CAR LOAN, paying HOUSE RENT Qar.4000/- and enjoying life with my wife in Qatar.

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The thing which matter most is your LIFE STYLE. If you have low profiled life then life usually is very easy going otherwise can be a LIVING HELL if you have very high profile or expensive living STYLE.

I don't know, i didn't see this thread...but most likely, no one was interested..

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I have question i POsted One topic with one video But NO 1 even commented ............Y is that.

did i choose wrong place means category

Ok QAt...!

hmmm .. whtever business i do :D

Like the rest of the world, QLSG is in a deep crisis right now.. kindda ‘we don’t want to be out of fashion, do we? What is good for world economy, should be good for QLSG’… but as Da said, he IS working on it now… will see..hope QLSG will get out of crisis sooner than the rest of the world...

btw, bestinbusiness.. what business you are the best in

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so, you are excited at this conversation & long to meet folks? well it won't be bad for you then and soon will get to know the local customs..........

why I said life won't be good for singles is the entertainment joints are limited and places of outings are few. People move to that part of the world to make some quick 'tax-free money'. I have been to DC / Virginia and believe those places to be superior but everyone has own motivator behind relocation & you know yours!

Guys What is that QLSG and can i be a part of your hangout plans anywhere....?

i am afraid they will be closed by that time:)

but we still can stand by the door...

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how about 9am in the morning

insha'allah..

1:1 in Irish sounds good..:)

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you will get to see something new soon am workin on it

when are we both going to irish harp ratio 1 - 1 me and you :D

and why to leave me, DaRu? by the way, what's going on with QLSG?

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well.. it's easy.. you enter any bar, you find 10 guys to 1 girl ratio..:)

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I am still in washington, DC and i hope to land in qatar the first week of May:) YIPPY!! i am excited to meet you guys in person! (especially inti ya Mandi ya amoura)...

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mandi just insulted you calling you a bad wolf.

Nadine's still here with me in the US, you bad wolf (no, not you, alpha wolf.) Don't scare her away by growling at her.

Mandi

You Mandi wolf where ae you hidding i am waiting on the road with keys in my hand come take the car quick oh you might need to push it to get it started also

where are you

leave qatarisun and come here quick

Alpha Wolf, you are correct in that US citizens who meet either the "domicile rule" or the "330 day rule" still owe federal taxes on everything above $87,5000. And many will owe state taxes on the full amount of income. But Nadine would be making under the cut-off income and after one full year and falling under either category of exemption she wouldn't owe federal taxes. She still must file, of course.

Mandi

why do u say that??care to elaborate??

bestinbusiness and siddh.. life might be boring in qatar for single MEN (even not for everyone, i am sure).. but no way life is boring for the Female, especially for single.. ;)

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best of LUCk for your future PLANS and Hope You find Qatar pleasent and safe place to live in.

Do not forget to call your QL Friends when you cook something for FRIENDS :D

Peace

Thanks guys for the honest advice!! I have a simple/modest lifestyle-i pack my lunch to work most days (i like to prepare/handle my own food), and go out occassionally. I am a bit of a home-body... I enjoy most nights in with friends -- I like to cook for friends, or have them over for coffee, argileh, and such. So im not really into the bar-hopping/drinking scene..

The only thing I can see myself SPLURGING on is a gym membership or maybe jitsu/defense classes at ABuAmerican's gym! haha...

Its really good and handsome amout.. and the company you are working is the best company of Qatar as i told you before right.... so congrates :)

Cheers !!!

Depends completely upon ur lifestyle... If u hav a control over ur out-of-the-way lifestyle... u can certainly have a ball of time with that much salary out here in Qatar since ur housing is already taken care, within time, u can also get ur driving linc. & purchase a car, it wudnt b more than 1500/- per month if u take up a vehicle loan.

Please inform the United States Internal Revenue Service that there is no need to worry about taxes here. Someone keeps forgetting to inform them so they keep collecting taxes from US Citizen expats working all over the world.

Check the US tax code and tell me where it says no taxes to be paid if you work in Qatar (or any other foreign country). I've heard this bunch of misinformation BS way too many times.

If you don't actually know then you probably shouldn't advise on such issues.....

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I agree with SIDDH that LIfe is kind of boring in Qatar

Have you got a family to support at 12K QR? If yes, it is too less! If only you then also stick to yr present country as you said you have the same pay there coz life is kind of boring in Qatar if you are single.

(personal opinion though)

Its will take care of your all expenditures except cosmetics :D

And the intangible factor is the "It's not just a job, it's an adventure" angle.

Mandi

If it's the same amount then it will be good for you. No need to worry about the taxes. :)

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hey mandi,

its the same amount, but the job is better (im hoping):)

It's not bad. Is it more than you are getting in the US? It should be in order for you to contemplate a move. Either more salary or a considerable leg up the job scale.

Mandi