Discrimination In Qatar

After watching what is going on in this conversation, I am going to add my two cents worth.

I have been in Qatar 6 years - and I as many others here would love to be more involved with Qatar as long termers, but as others have told you here, it doesn't work like that. There is a big difference between expatriot workers with RPs and an immigrant. An immigrant interlocks with the local community and becomes part of that country. They get rights when they become citizens.

In Qatar, it never has and never will work like that. Why don't you speak to the many Indians, Asians, AND Arabs who were born here and have lived here their entire lives - 90% of them and their families have not received Qatari nationality and the 10% that have, will tell you it means nothing. They cannot do any with that nationality, because they are not pure Qatari.

Stop slandering people who have been here many years and do actually know what they are talking about. I am sorry it doesn't fit into your perfect little world of being an immigrant - this is not Canada. Its strange that your own country has denied your husband citizenship, yet you slander Qatar for not giving the same opportunities.

Without a doubt, you are racist - there is no point in denying this - its plainly obvious from your posts. You are also dillusional - Just like all of us here, you are nothing in this country - the difference is, the rest of us accept this for what it is - its time you did too!

This has nothing to do with us having a low self esteem - its just the way it is.

You'll just be blabbering the same incoherrent nonsense anyways....

For someone LIKE YOU in QATAR for 6 months or so arguing and insisting her "incorrigible" arguments with QLers who have been here in this country for 6 YEARS and more.... I pity you, honest :)Insulting remarks and retorts to me (thanks for the attention...lol) but you still  in a soap bubble that you and your husband are far better and above Filipinos and Indians.I make jokes about it...coz I want to...you don't like it...TOO BAD :PGUESS WHAT!...Filipinos and Indians have jobs...your husband APPARENTLY DO NOT...which is SAD.After the explanations given to you...you still insist on your views...nothing we could do about that...If you think I'm joking that the INDIANS & FILIPINOS that you think so lowly of would be able to help your husband find a job?...ITS NOT A JOKE.Most of us work for HR, Administration and Management Department/Sections of companies that are directly or indirectly connected with the oil and gas industry....and you would be surprised who are the person/people behind the QLers user ID's here that you call stupid, uneducated and inexperienced.And who am I kidding...you're a narcissist...and a racist...PERIOD!    

To the OP I have only one piece of advise left to give as she seems to be too ignorant or blind to the true situation in Qatar: 'If you don't like it, get out of Qatar!' Who do you think you are to change how Qataris want to run their country? Get your husband back to Canada for a start and good luck in keeping him there with you as Canada will receive him with open arns and invite him to stay (NOT) - unlike Qatar!

The educated discussion you seem to want to engage in will lead only into bashing of Qatar and the people who have no choice but to accept this countries' rules and laws! Don't you understand and see that this is the Middle East and there are only local rights? Have you ever had a car accident with a local person and have come out as the side who was not at fault, whether you were or not? Have you ever heard of human rights in Qatar? A country full of enslaved housemaids and labourers? The ''we own you' system of exit visas and NOC's?

You know nothing about me, but I do not bite the hand that feeds me. Go and cry foul to Canada with your toyboy and give Qatar a break from your ignorant and self-centered attitude!

As I said - get out of Qatar if you don't like it here. Many of us are absolutely fine and happy with our families around us. We are safe and away from the crisis back in our countries!

For what do you keep repeating that you are white? Did anyone ask you about your color? Do you think we care what color you have?!

I think your post is either too long or too old that you your self forgot what you wrote.. You did mention that Indians and Phillipinos are not educated. Guys no point arguing with someone who doesnt know what they are talking about..

oh but you said

What nationality are you?  My husband:  I'm from Nigeria.  Employer:  Oh that's too bad.  We are only looking for Philipinos and Indians.  He asks why and gets some garbage story not worth listening to.

Then you said

Do Qatarians really want this reputation of being racist?  Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Phillipino with no education or experience over my husband?

you did not state that employer said that they will hire filipinos or indians irregardless of their experience. which is absurd. why would big companies entrust big projects to inexperienced people. are you saying that companies here are that stupid?

youre trying to hold to whats left of your credibility, but in the end, you are the one being racist to everyone who doesnt agree with your rants.

28 years experience.. doing what? starting fires on river beds shouting "white power"?

ugh..

Dear jem,

First,there might be some discrimination happen in this country but in a small cases only. There are two types of people here...local and expat.. Of course local people will get more advantages here..no one can argue it.. their country their rules...they can do whatever they want. Regardings the indian/ philipinos, it is all about visa. they are easy to get visa here. I am not talking about visit visa...but working visa. when you get working visa, then you can apply any job here. and it takes a lot of time and effort. and to get the working visa, the company have to become your sponsor. So, it is better you come here, once there is someone is ready to hire you. For the profesional position like your husband, it is not the correct way to find a job here.

Second, Indians and phillippinos are too much cheap in salary compare to whites. So, the employer will choose them rather than whites. I think everyone has their own previous experiences before they come here. There are equal chances for all the people to find any job in qatar.

The minimum requirement for engineering to find a job in qatar is 5 years but they are prefer 8-10 years.. age 26 - 30years old. Like me, I dont have any degrees or diplomas insteads of technical certificates. but I have an experiences around 6 years. Then I can prove to them that I am able to do a job of 10 years experiences person. So they are accepting me to join the commissioning/ start up 4 Mega Trains of Qatargas LNG. But, as I said, a profesional job must be apply with a professional way. not just simply walk-in interview.

Anyway, I wish you luck to find a job here. but I suggesting you to back home and apply the job from your country rather than you are waiting here. It will wasting your time. If they are really need your profesionalism, they will come to find you there..

Anyway, i am lucky to be a Malaysian, everyone are respects us just like we are respecting others..

Azilana7037You really need to go back and read the many responses I've given and more importantly, my initial question.  No where did I say that Indians and Philipinos have no education.  Comprehension problems for you like many others.  Most employers calling my husband with interest in hiring him because of his qualifications, discontinued their interest in him when he shared his nationality with the employer, stating he wants only Indians and Philipinos irregardless of their education.  I don't know why this is such a hard concept for you to understand.  Of course I'm exalting the With Honors' of my husband because I'm proud of him.  Wouldn't you be if you had a husband like him.  (That's a rhetorical question that I don't need an answer to)  Because we are a multi cultural country with many people from all over the world we do have many different colored Canadians.  I don't think that the color blindness is your problem but your arrogance, close mindedness, childish (as demonstrated in your 4 lined poem), bad attitude, bitterness, anger, uneducated about Canada ways of thinking but you too can change and improve yourself.  My next question is just that.  Why are so many people like this that answer the questions on the forums?_________________________[Cool down. Moderator]

with "un-civil" person.  Better argue with a tree!

Luckily I am Malaysian...

We are Malaysian respect all the people in this entire planet... And also we are respected by the people all around the world...

"IT IS GREAT TO BE A MALAYSIAN"

 QatarisunSo what's your Point?  Why wouldn't it be the most difficult to get a visa to visit?  It's the best country so you gotta be pretty special to get in there. I don't really think that but there seems to be so few people here that respond to my question that have the ability to have an intellectual discussion.  This is more like a tennis match with most of you throwing sarcastic, distorted, untrue comments at me and then I'm suppose retort so that you can offer more rude, lack of intelligent, filled with assumption type comments.  How about if your type get lost and let the intelligent, less bitter, people answer the question to make comments?  The tennis match has gotten very dull and meaningless.  

 Alumnar, too bad you have the same sick sense of humor your friend, azi, has.  The way you, and so many others, take a couple of my words out of context, then make so many assumptions about me and the situation, twist it around a little more; tells me you have very low reading comprehension and are desparate to shoot me with your racist gun.  Why?  What's in it for you?  How many years do you have to be here before you stop thinking you're a visitor?  You think so low of yourself and what you have offered here that you don't even think, that once you are here for some time, that this too is your country and you have a say in the rules as much as anyone else.  The foreigners that come to Canada feel well enough about themselves that the Muslim groups sought to get a space in their schools to pray and the freedom to go when they need to go.  Why don't you get on the bandwagon and do something good like that for your nationality instead of trying to shoot people with your racist gun?Sorry to tell you this but I'm not jobless.  I worked for 28 years in Canada and invested wisely so Freedom 44 makes for a very nice, independently well off, jobfree,white person.  Let's see how you twist the words in this short response. 

marm know it all who believes ur the only one who can write a thesis with no errors, grammatical or or otherwiseu r incredibly stupid for such an educated person...the way how things are done here are not the same as it is in canada. are you so completely devoid of common sense in the championing of ur husband that u simply won't accept the fact that things are not the same all over the world?u should have used ur time wisely in the 6 months u've been here and learned  the local customs and their regulations especially since ur husband is staying here with a questionable visa. if u have no friends who can enlighten u on the matter use the net. it  could help u from making further blunders before ur too deep in the hole u've dug for urself!

guys jem is not going to back down. no amount of explanation will clear her clouded mind on how this country works.

its time to let it go. you cant shed light to people already blind.

jem you sound completely up your own backside IMO............I have found a few spelling mistakes in your rant there.....and one being so perfect in her thesis......mmmmmm.

Delusions of Grandeur methinks.......

Jem, you mix the things! You try to compare the expats in Qatar with the immigrants and citizens in Canada. THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE!I understand you have no clue, where you live now! So at least TRUST those who DOES live here, and who understands the rules and regulations! WE ARE NOT HOME HERE! THIS IS NOT OUR COUNTRY! You like it or not. It is writen everywhere! Including in our visas; each of them contains word "VISIT", whether it is a tourist, or family, or business, or even Work visa. WE ARE VISITORS HERE! We are brought here for the certain period of time, we signed the contract, and we work until sent back home! We haven't IMMIGRATED in here! Try to understand it again, and do not compare our status here with our status in our home countries! HOW YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT??You say "the Arabians own this country outright and it is their country so they can do whatever they want!!!!  How passive are you people here? ".. Listen! This is a dangerous appeal!!1.Guess what, it is not ARABIANS who own this country, it is QATARIS who own this country. You sound very illiterate mixing all "arabians", and writing Qatarians instead of Qataris.2. Guess what, YES, they can obviously do whatever they want in their country!3. Guess what, we are here for WORK only, and we have no legal rights to change the rules or regulations on this country, or even to participate in any discussion on this subject. We have no any intentions to do it either! Exactly as non-citizens in any country, including CANADA, have NO rights to vote or to impact in any possible way on the political and economical system in the country! You say you are highly educated. How come, you cannot understand such obvious things?4. Guess what, your "How passive are you people here?"  sounds like direct call to rebellion..so you better calm down. Think wiht very very open mind, since you are so highly edicated. Try to imagine, that you are in completely different world with completely different rules. Nobody say, it is better or worse, it is just different! So simply STOP comparing this world to any other world that you know. It is DIFFERENT anyway!And try to understand that NIGERIAN VISAS ARE TIGHTLY RESTRICTED IN QATAR! And it's not up to us to change it! Sorry for saying it, but you are NOBODY to dictate to Qataris how to rule their own country!And alcohol isn't banned in an entire country. You again mixing it, with probably Saudi Arabia. Unless it's a Ramadan time, I personally consume alcohol at least once a month in Qatar, totally legally. So how come it's "banned in an entire country" ?And again, I personally want to know HOW your lovely husband has penetrated into Qatar? WHERE and HOW has he BOUGHT his illegal visa? 

go khokhoy, go! :-)

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"That's a mental disorder which he doesn't have but you or others may want to get checked out " So all those who have an opinion different from yours are mentally ill ?You are hopeless!  And I am extremely kind to say this.

Jem0955,

Your naiveté amuses me.

I believe no other explanation would be acceptable to you other than your husband has been discriminated against because of his skin color and nationality and not because of the following possible reasons given to you again and again (albeit sarcastically and insultingly by some):

a. he has no proven experience in the field other than theoretical expertise;

b. he maybe asking a lot more compensation than other nationalities with the same qualifications and certifications;

c. the sponsor cannot get a visa for Nigerian nationals either because he has no quota for it or has reached his annual quota for such nationals;

If your mind has closed itself to other such possible and very probable explanations by most who have been here for many, many years, I think it is better to count your losses and move on. Maybe Qatar or the Middle East is not the option for you and your husband.

Do not lose hope because as they say: "When the door closes, a window opens."

TD

Hello,I see no reason to clear the statement  "Do Qatarians really want this reputation of being racist?  Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Philippinos with no education or experience over my husband?  I'm concluding that the people that are doing the hiring here live here, therefore, they are Qatarians.  I'm not at all here been racist and how you jump to that is beyond the irrational thinling processes that I'm seeing on this forum time and time again.  No where did I say that these nationalities are not educated.  Of course they are educated.  In the situation I was referring to that you and others have taken out of context,  the applicants beneath him directly were not educated and he was told that they would rather have them in the position rather than a Nigerian with the education.  That is why I'm saying that there is Racism in Qatar.  Otherwise, I would have no experience with the racism problem here in Qatar.  I've never seen this anywhere else in the countries I have been to but I've never seen alcohol banned in an entire country either so I want to learn and understand the thoughts and reasons behind this country.  Hey I'm telling it straight and there are no mysteries in how I write.  It says what it means so don't take things out of context, so many of you do.  Keep it where it belongs and you'll all understand how a Canadian writes good english since I did receive a perfect mark in my thesis in every chapter and recommended for students of the furture to learn from.  Isn't that special!!  Let's see how you spirited Qatarians can come up with sarcasm, rudeness, impoliteness and all your fine put downs on that one. Referring to this statement - 'do not be over obsessed of your husband's educational attainment. and besides, this is Qatar, this is not Nigeria or Canada. They have a stand in whatever they do. this is their Country. I am not obsessed with my husbands' educational attainment but the word proud would be a better fit.  That's a mental disorder which he doesn't have but you or others may want to get checked out.  "They have a stand in whatever they do. this is their Country."  This really bothers me and I'm seeing this one over and over.  So people that move and live here, see that the Arabians own this country outright and it is their country so they can do whatever they want!!!!  How passive are you people here?  When someone moves to Canada, it's their country as well now.  Especially when they becom a citizen.  How can someone never feel they are part of Qatar when they have lived and worked here for 6 months or 40 years?  Where is that coming from?  What does it take for people to feel it is their country?  That's very sick.  Who is causing you all to feel that way?  This is your country if you live and/or work here and you have as many rights as everyone else.  Unless I'm seeing Nazism and I'm not aware of that, you all need to stop this crap about it being their country.  Find out more about that one.  I would never tolerate that kind of talk when I lived in any country. 

Nouveau Riche equals racism.........end of

STOP!Moderator

we applied for canadian immigrants visa but till now 14 years passed nothing happens but we never called canadian a racist.

tell your husband to try,try,try im also locally hired and waited for 3 months.

one thing more dont mention nationalities.

what happened now is you're already the racist.

wow.. atlast it ends.. that OP jump in a shallow water.. she dint know it will bang her head.. very nice topic... filipinos and indians built this city.. mabuhay

El Gato - you make me laugh, no racism in Qatar - biggest joke going, you only have to look a the malls on a friday for their so called 'family days'

 I have been in Qatar a very very long time, yup I was born here, and I only learnt of Racism when I went away to study , I never felt discriminated in Qatar ever. If there is racism , its we who have brought it in, not the Qataris. If there is one place in the world you will learn to live with and understand cultures it is the middle east,  No other place will have such a mix of nationalities under one roof. So appreciate Qatar for what they have to offer. If your husband did not get a job, maybe he is applying in the wrong place,  or just maybe he is  over qualified. Whatever the reason is - its not being racsist. The only racist comment was what you said about Indians and Philipinos, I wont speak for the indians, since you may say that I am taking up for them,as I am Indian. I will however speak for the Philipinos - they are a hard working community, you dont know how they have to struggle to get where they are. You wont understand them, unless you live and work among them , and if you think that they are not as educated as your husband, spend a little more time here in Qatar , and you will change your opinion. The same also holds true for Indians, and all the other nationalities . Also I would like to suggest that you offer to accept the job for the same salary as an Indian/Philipino would , just to show the employers that you are against racism, and I'm sure that you will be getting an offer soon.

"  Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Phillipino with no education or experience over my husband? " how do you know the indian or philipino chosen have no education or experience? no company would prefer un educated inexperienced ppl to such a job..i can understand your feelings,but think b4 you ink.. in the end,don't end up as a racist yourself..!! wish good luck for you and your husband..consult with your embassy,they might be able to guide you.

She made a mistake of caalling Filipinos and Indians uneducated...and exalting the qualities and educational qualifications (NOTE: WITH HONORS) of her husband.She's White Canadian? Is there black or brown Canadians too?...just asking. I'm color blind, you see....lol    

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ops, just come accross your previous post:http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1766800even at that time, i asked you "HOW is he coming to qatar without a visa?", and you have answered, "he does have a visa for Qatar". Now I am sure, he has obtained his visa illegally... As only the hiring Company can issue a visa to its potential employee.And I did tell you at that time, that it is next to impossible to get a visa for Nigerians in Qatar.You ignored this fact. Now you complain.Now, his experience isn't that impressive. He rather doesn't have any. It is next to impossible to find a Job in qatar for fresh-graduated, of any nationality! This point has nothing to do with descrimination.And at last.. I know, it is none of my business at all.. And I hope I am completely wrong.. But I wish you won't regret marring him as soon as your husband gets his "landed immigrant" status, which even anti-racist Canada isn't in hurry to grant him! 

ops, jem, just come accross another your statement:"Please realize that my husband got his own Visa by making an application for one just like others have done to get here.Dear jem, getting "own Visa" is absolutely illegal in Qatar. Unless it's a tourist visa, which has nithing to do with work. Speaking of WORK types of visas, there is no such thing like "own Visa". Any type of WORK permission (work visa with RP, Business visa, Work visit visa, Work Permit, etc.) is issued by the Company, where the employee is intending to work. ONLY! If your husband has a Work visa with Residence permit, (or a business visa) without having a Job, it tells me that he has obtained this visa illegally.If it's NOT a Work type of visa, then he cannot work in Qatar, and the hiring company must secure a Work visa for him, which as it has been mentioned, are highly restricted for nigerian nationals.But again, WHY Qatar??? Why wouldn't you choose some other country, since there are so much hassles in here?I am not sure how a couple can live in some country without any Job, without a proper visa, for over 6 months (for me it looks simply illegal), and still to complain about this country??I would like to meet some illegal immigrant in Canada complaining that he cannot find a job.. lol.. 

Jem - if your husband is well qualified and experienced, then he should be eligible for a work visa in Canada. Has he applied and been rejected? Or has he even tried?Canadian visas are usually granted on (a) need for that particular qualification in Canada (b) qualifications + experience or (c) a + b + proof of offered employment or financial capability to set up their own business. From what you say your husband is well qualified etc.  has he applied for a work permit to Canada and then you could both get the "pay you feel you deserve" (which is a whole other discussion IMHO)?This is NOT Canada, your husband is NOT a citizen either of Qatar or Canada (where he CAN be discriminated against on the basis of his nationality IF he isn't Canadian or a landed immigrant).And as for a previous poster's comment - don't get me started on the pseudo Canadianese who get a Canadian passport after fulfilling the bare minimum immigrant requirements and have no intention of ever living or contributing to Canada after the passport is in hand.  There are so many people who would be of value to Canada who can't or don't qualify and so many who abuse the Canadian (and other country's) immigration systems.

Jem has digged herself a racial discrimination hole too big to get out of. Don't expect any rational answer from her anymore. She thinks her (jobless) husband is better than anybody else - but she forgets that her praising him is biased and therefore irrelevant for any potential employer. I feel there is a lot more to this story. But in the end (and thanks to the OP's posts) it boils down to one thing: Racist bitterness. Sad - but true.

here posting might be able to help your husband find a job or direct him to one...I guess you don't realize that...tsk, tsk, tsk.   

brit,  I also know many nigerians working in Qatar... 

i wish u have posted ur pic...i'm sure most of the medical staff in hamad hospital would gladly ignore you if u happen to seek medical help!oh but then most of the clinics and private hospitals here in Qatar and around the world are mostly comprised of filipinos and indians just like in your beloved canada!if u wanted to complain about unequal preferences given to certain nationalities u've got no right to denigrate other people so callouslywe never rant and rave if certain positions are only open to whitesu don't have exclusivity in getting a high educationlearn to eat humble pie. filipinos and indians like the rest of the working class are hired through merit!and be more respectful. u'l never know a filipino or indian might be instrumental in saving ur life or one of ur loved ones  

I know at least three cases where the husband never went to Canada and got his passport without any hassle :O(

I totally sympathize with the frustration of your husband not being able to get a job. But i guess you just have to remember that for some it can take only a week and some many a little longer, just dont belittle people in the process. And every country has it rules, i have been trying to apply for a canadian visa and its really tough..europe was even better and faster but i wont go calling canadians racist cause the process is taking too long for a south african. Keep applying and maybe your husband will find a job or maybe consider going back to canada if things dont go well.

well that was just a thought that came to my mind. fair enough getting canadian citizenship might be lengthier than i thought. but poor jemm is repeating again and again that her husband does NOT need a sponsorship visa from any company. he already has a residence permit. why is everybody coming back with the same answer of work permit restrictions for nigerians. that is NOT applicable in this scenario. shes only talking about the discrimination that her husband is facing in gettin a job because hes Nigerian. am i right in saying this jemm ? 

husband cannot become canadian national "automatically" in Canada. First,he will have to submit the application for the residency (way before becoming canadian citizen), and to go through the immigration process, to get checked 100 times for Security reason, and such.. and - moreover - his application might be rejected. Once approved, he will have to live in canada 3 year continuously, then to apply for the citizenship, and to attend a citizenship test. Citizenship also can be denied or postponed depends on circumstances. Each country has rights to protect their interests the way they want.as for nigerians in qatar, it is simply a matter of Work visa restrictions for nigerians. And again, each country has rights to protect their interests the way they want.BTW, here an article about Algerianshttp://new.arabianbusiness.com/qatar-cracks-down-on-algerian-visa-applicants-416509.html 

I can see exactly what you mean jemm but I have one question. If you`re a Canadian national married to a Nigerian national, surely if you were in Canada, your husband could become a Canadian nationality automatically. At least thats how it happens here in the UK. and then the nationality issue would turn in your favour.

I posted a similar question some time back that weather a Nigerian or a national from a thirld world/developing country who has lived many years in the UK/USA/Canada, got top notch degree education with great experience STILL be discriminated cuz hes neverthless a NIGERIAN national ? and not an american or British?

and surprisingly the answer that I got back was pretty much a YES. very very sad how being white brings a blind perception of being the best at a job. even if he`s cleaned toilets all his life seems like he`ll be preferred over other nationalities. this shows how these ppl are still slaves by heart to the west.

The Middle East is full of blatant racism by indigenous people & expats......thats the way it is.....if its eating you up.....time to go!!

the only problem is your husband being a nigerian, just wait for his canadian passport and you see the magic :) ,, i have seen many African-british, asian-brit working good position all around qatar saudi and dubai. ur husband is quite qualified and i recommend to get his canadian passport ASAP.

Oh, and addressing your complaints of why people specifically post housing for one nationality or another.  Yes, people prefer to have others of same or similar culture, foods, religions, lifestyle as one another.  You have yourself openly complained that you couldn't take/stand the foods of Nigerian culture/society.  Same thing happens with other cultures/societies. When people post for other Filipinos, it is because even though there are different cultures/languages within the Philippines, we are all of the same society and understand ourselves as such.  Filipinos are also better housemates, less likely to cause fights/arguments, are usually very reliable in paying their debts, and don't give as many problems to the host family as most other cultures do.  Also aside from the occasional stinky fish frying, most of our food is a mix of Spanish and Pacific Asian, and is eaten in most countries around the world (including Canada, though many don't recognize it as such).  It has long been recognized that Filipinos are some of the most friendly and happy-go-lucky people in the world.  We don't find the need to go posting that we are some sort of glorified Special Citizen to know who we are.  Our entire culture including singing, singing, singing!When people post for other Indians, it is because even though there are a zillion different cultures/languages within India, they are all of the same super complex society and identify themselves as such. Their food is also heavy with curries and other seasonings, and the scent is not something that is tolerated for long by most other cultures.  So to avoid problems, they post for similar cultural housemates.  Are any of these discriminatory?  No, they also do not want the problems usually associated in dealing with locals, Westerners, Africans, etc., who are usually more aggressive and less tolerant of others. Really, not everything is about you.

The reasons people are getting angry with your OP and subsequent replies is that you are failing to understand just how you began writing in 'proper' English and yet managed to not make your comments appear racist, even to my husband and myself (a wisely educated Westerner and a highly-educated Filipina).  None of your comments display understanding of how you continue to insult people each time you defensively reply.  This makes this thread become more and more a flaming thread until a Mod will lock it. It has been mentioned that one cannot bring their home country's laws/priviledges into that of a stricter society.  Qatar is far from perfect, but those of us who stay here accept and live within those twisty laws, make our money, support our families, and don't complain too loudly in case the monitors dislike what we say and send us away.  The labor laws and sponsorship programs in this region have been called slavery or other bad names.  It is what it is, and those who cannot abide within them shouldn't stay.  Think of this:  What other country would your Nigerian spouse be able to easily meet you in?  Why didn't you guys go there instead?  Qatar wasn't the only choice, so complaining openly (home and here) that you two made the wrong choice is only showing your own shortcomings in public.  Defensively replying to those giving truthful and honest advice/commentary is only asking to have Mods get out the banhammer...

"OK, I'm confused, too. You say your husband already has a visa. Are you sponsoring him? Even so, if he gets a job, as a male, he must transfer to his employer's sponsorship (unlike a wife who works.) If he has a business visa and isn't working for his sponsor that can be considered illegal. Once again, it can be very hard for an employer to get a visa for a Nigerian worker... Unfortunately, Qatar does discriminate by nationality, just like Canada. Some nationalites can get visas on arrival to Canada - like Americans and EU members - others must apply and hope." -MandilulurMandi has done a good job of answering about the why of your husband's visa.  Allow me to expand on that a tad bit.  Regardless of nationality, in Qatar, any and all husband visas are not allowed to work without transferring to a company sponsorship.  As you did not specifically state what type of visa he was on, we the readers can only assume that it is a temporary tourist/business visa, as is yours (per pride in visa-on-arrival for Canada).  There is zero chance for anyone on tourist/business visas to work in Doha without transferring to company sponsorship. If you were male and he was your wife, you could sponsor 'her' and 'she' could work with no problems (male-dominated culture makes this a reality here).  The reverse is not allowed per current local laws.  Also the point has been repeatedly answered for you that Nigerian (not mentioned are the hundreds of other countries included in this...) work visas are extremely difficult to get here.  Again, this isn't necessarily discriminatory as Mandi thinks, as those hundreds of other countries do not have alliances or strong political connections to the Emirate of Qatar.  Hence the old desert saying, "You rub my palms, I'll rub yours" (a reference to putting favors/treasures into one another's possession).  Then there are the problems universally found with many members of one country or another that cause them to be shunned or less desireable for access across the world.  It isn't about penalizing the many for the problems of the few, it is about preventing future problems until that country/culture can get their stuff straight and be good people in general (not one here, one there).

I can understand your frustration Jem - 6 months being jobless is really frustrating, but its not enough to call Indians and Filipinos uneducated just because they were prefered more by the employers rather  than your husband.Can you practice what you preach? Your crying racism to the people posting on this thread and about Qatar BUT racism is shouting out loud in your opening remark. Generalizing Indians and Filipinos as uneducated is another racist comment from you.Perhaps time for your husband to change career? or try other fields ? Try sales? Teaching? Who knows? he might excel on that... There's always a lot of option.And putting  blame on others out of frustration or just because you didnt get what you want will never be good. Cheers.  

"I can comment on that.  When I planned to come to Qatar, I learned that I could get a visa on arrival without any questions asked.  I learned there is a list of certain countries that could do this and many other countries could not.  I thought what kind of crap is this that Qatar is letting some countries in without question and others have some other hurdles to jump or cannot come at all.  What else could this be but racial discrimination?" -jem Your final answer to this misunderstanding of why the above is how it is in Qatar is this, jem.  Qatar has alliances with certain countries, and those alliances allow certain nationalities the PRIVILEDGE (not a Right) to obtain a visa-on-arrival. This has zero to do with "racism" or "discrimination", and everything to do with alliances and regional political 'stuff'.Recently the country called "Canada" deeply and repeatedly insulted the kingdom of Qatar.  Do a Google search on that dispute between your political people and Qatar, including the airport slotting problem also caused by those politicians.  So even Canadians are given a thinner line to access Doha than before, yet are still one of the allied few with said access.  Hope this clarifies this one set of questions for you?

What about changing husband's nationality (difficult) or husband (easy)?

oh cmon candy, i love em smelly fish. and i can be naked in my room right? its not hurting anybody. though i havent experienced being brought to a lady's room, probably because im an ugly bastard.

and 8000 riyals? more like 6000. have to make ends meet though, hence the smelly fish. only food i can afford.

but hey no complaints, didnt come here to waste money on useless stuff anyway.

i know your post is a hit on filipinos, but at least we dont whine on what were getting.

have a good day.

love those examples of yours candy.. i love it so much it hurts..LOL

jem0955...

oh i have finally gotten to your nerve. well you have gotten right to mine the minute you called my people (and you have generalized) uneducated. we went through tedious years just to get our degrees, unlike you who probably never even finished college and kept yakking about how good your husband is how bad this place is for not hiring him. screw you, im more than happy not to meet you.

oh and i have worked in four different countries, including a "white" dominated one, no one addresses "i am white" in any situation, unlike you, who still thinks of your skin colour being the superior race.

you cry discrimination, yet in your opening post, you insulted over 1 billion people by saying these people have no education. hypocrite.

dont hit your head when you get out the door. and take the stench you left here with you.

  Wow!  Have you ever read what you have written and what everyone on this forum writes like?  Almost everyone of you are super sarcastic!!!!  Why are you so angry?  That is what most of you are that have responded here.  You think you know so much but you are arguing with me that racism is okay and fighting me on this.  So you are all racists I guess and the disease spreads around but sorry I won't get racism.  I will just dislike you as an individual a whole lot and be so glad that I've never met you and never will.  I'm the luckiest person in the world!  Mr. SARCASM!!!  I don't think you have the education you think you have because you didn't see through this whole thread.  Hello I'm disliking racism and most people don't like that so get on board and learn a little bit about how the whole planet feels about racism instead of this tiny chunk of dirt in the middle of no where. 

Everything is wonderful in CANADA and equal rights are being practiced there YAHOO!!!!!   Then WHY your husband is getting difficulty in acquiring visa in your own country?

And very well versed with the Visa system here in Qatar too.And like most of those who replied to your topic, we've been here in Qatar for more than a couple of years.Oh, blimey, I'm a Filipina...you wouldn;t possibly listen to someone as uneducated as myself...sorry ;P

Qatarisun, the OP left Nigeria because she has a problem with Nigerian food... :-O

by the way, due to the nature of my work, i deal with the visas to different countries for people of different nationalities. Guess what, CANADA is the most difficult country to get a visit visa to! I had no clue about it, until I have come accross this issue. it is much easier to get a visa to USA (let alone european countries), then to Canada! .. Surprise!

LOL azi, thanks for the laugh girl. For a moment I thought you really thought the OP was NOT racist!!! Thankfully we all agree on who the racist is (the white OP), screaming foul at another countries' rules. WE are visitors here and to me nobody is more or less than anybody else. We are here to do a particular job, whichever it is, the best way we can and we get paid for it, no matter which race or nationality, skin colour or origin. Sad to see that the OP seems to need to tell us that she is WHITE (but jobless!!!)

jem, and ARE YOU serious about the VISAS? are you sure, that CANADA is practicing EQUAL for all countries visas regulations ???? are you dreaming dear?

Each country has its own rules and regulations. For some reason, some nationalities are restricted in Qatar. And guess what, it is Government's rights to set up the rules, based on different reasons, like SECURITY, like property protection, and other..you say, in Canada (your homeland) we have Human Right Act.  But you are not HOME here. You cannot come to someone's country and request them to live by YOUR rules. they have their own rules, which we have to either adopt or to leave the country. I don't see any problem here. Qatar brings to work whoever they want. It is thier country, it is thier money! You cannot dictate them WHOM this money should be paid to!I am sorry to hear your story, but again, you are not home here.why is your husband trying to get a job in Qatar anyway? why wouldn't you go to either Canada or Nigeria, and try to get a job there?  

And like Xena used to say here: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". 

She's just one snotty white canadian married to a black Nigerian who's upset coz  brownm short dumb, stupid looking filipinos and indians get hired first instead of her husband....It's her opinion that filipinos/indians are uneducated. From what I know, education system in India and Philippines are recognized around the world (including Canada) and I can't say the same in Nigeria.All I know that all the spams and scams and all swindling schemes come from Nigeria...hehehehe   

seriously though, you dont expect to come and work in the middle east and expect youll get all the perks from your home country. you dont get taxed here and get paid a premium than what you get form wherever you came from.

downside is youll have to obey their laws and accept how they do business here. if youre not fine with that, then leave.

like i said, if you cant get a job, try harder like the rest of us. if you cant take it anymore, no ones stopping you to get your tickets and fly outa here.

oh my god td you just hit the nail on the coffin!

Amen, TD!

You are making assumptions.  I never said that my husband lives in Canada and I'm not here to apply for a job.  Everything is wonderful in Canada and I can't wait for us to return home.  I don't have to tell you everything about my life.  Some things are private.   

Jem0995

let me answer your questions

1. What do we do here people? 

We are all here looking or working for a job that pays us the salary we think we deserve.

However, your husband started on the wrong foot. You see here in Qatar there are 2 types or category, if you like, of potential employees: Local hires and Professional hires.

Professional hires are people who were hired usually from out of the country because of their specific skill set. So the company that hires them thinks their skill set is what the company needs. These people may get the package they want because it is the company that is after them.

Local hires are people who came here to Qatar hoping to find a job that would fit their skills and would have income they want. Some are lucky enough to get both. But most end up wanting because the employer knows they are desperate for a job and are staying here on borrowed time because of their visa expiration. To the employer, they are the ones desperate for a job.

2. My family back home is hearing all about my complaints. 

As a friendly suggestion, try not to tell horrible stories to loved ones far away. You don't know the stress you are giving them for worrying about your situation.

3.Do Qatarians really want this reputation of being racist? 

It is the visa system and every country has a visa system. The US does this, Canada does this, even Europe does this. Each country sets visa quotas for certain Nationalities. We do not hear complaints of racism about that.

As an example, Indians and Filipinos are not eligible for the US Diversity Immigrant Visa Program. Yet you do not hear us complaining about it but many of us go through the gruelling process of obtaining a US visa anyway.

4.Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Phillipino with no education or experience over my husband?

You complain against racism but I think this question comes from someone who has a racist mindset. Maybe they prefer these Nationalities because they can hire 3 or 4 of them for a salary of 1 Western expat and yet do a good or even better job than them. With the globalization, Professional certifications are the equalizer.

Or it can be that they have no quota for Nigerians. For example there was a time our company cannot get a visa for a certain nationality and the reason given is that our sponsor has reached the yearly quota for that nationality. Also until today we cannot get visa for single ladies so all the ladies our company can hire for now are those under husband sponsor. Again it is the visa process which every country has.

5.What is the problem?  Everyone he meets immediately likes him and he is a great leader with many people looking up to him for support and help.  I don't get it.

I think the answers above will help you get a clearer picture. Your husband being here looking for a job gets him to fall under local hire category. Maybe if gets more experience from your home country or from Nigeria were there are Oil companies too then apply from there maybe he will get the job he wants and the salary he deserves.

I hope I was able to help.

TD

Discrimination In Qatar"I am a white...."..NO BLOODY COMMENTS!... 

I can comment on that.  When I planned to come to Qatar, I learned that I could get a visa on arrival without any questions asked.  I learned there is a list of certain countries that could do this and many other countries could not.  I thought what kind of crap is this that Qatar is letting some countries in without question and others have some other hurdles to jump or cannot come at all.  What else could this be but racial discrimination? 

by the way, i just got an email from a nigerian lady who inherited a gazillion sterlings and all i have to do is send her my details and i get 2 million whopping pounds.

im the luckiest person in the world!

whoops, good thing im educated enough to see through an obvious bs.. much like this whole thread :)

Obviously you're so disgruntled with the people, the country, the system and there's no point in staying here.  It's best for you to settle back in your homecountry.  Life is full of adversities and you need not fiercely deal with unfavourable situations.  Be more rationale.  Practice good naturedness and humility and this may pave a better road for you.  It's also good for your health.  Remember that there's a higher power above us all who'll determine our fate with unquestionable wisdom. 

I have twisted definitions of racism and insult?  I have not put a definition for either racism or insult anywhere.  Maybe you would be able to see it staring right back at you??  What are you referring to when you say it?  This makes no sense and your answers have no relevance to my comments. 

I think we should not blame the country because of doing wrong by few individuals. The capabilities of men and women are always varient thou from same country. I appeal all those who beleive that such and such person belongs to a specific country and he is not good, so this analysis is completly wrong.

I always believe on presentation and smart work. Never predict the past doing of countrymate or others.

My dear requester who's husband is looking for job, will for sure get something as per his ability.

Now i dont know , in how many places he has appeared for interview. Its all about appearance and presentation.

Good wishes...

Finally it is not for an individual to judge a state rules, especially the state in which is a guest. After all states have systems of visas and not for nothing. Is Canada a visa paradise? I am sure is not!  By the beginning your message simply demonstrates that it is one of the most racist posts here, and just to combat "racism"?? You say you're a "white" "Canadian," so we would need to be already on our knees at the sound of these words. Well you're not the only Canadian and for sure not the only one white here. If an employer does not hire you is just because you're not what he needs, and this is not his fault. Stop complaining that you can not find work, you do not have more rights here than others which are even better prepared, more experienced.

1. It's a visa thing.2. Don't be a f-ing hypocrite. Indians are way on top when it comes to engineering, compared to Nigerians. I work in the oil and gas industry, and I speak from years of personal experience. It's got to do with the education system in the respective countries. Google for IIT. Ranked above most American Ivy league colleges.3. The one and only Nigerian we hired (in the past 8 yrs of doing business, 1000+ employees in the qatar office), cheated the company, cheated the loacal banks and cheated the real estate agent and landlord, and did a runner. Despite this, we would still hire a Nigerian with the right qualifications and experience. One person (or 20 even 20 000, don't represent the whole nation).4. If you want equal opportunities, there's no better place to be than Canada. Stop wasting your time here. We make certain sacrifices and give up certain things in order to have a tax free pay packet which our struggling economies back home cannot provide.5. Europe and the Americas, Canada and Australia are the new Third World. And, there's nothing called a free lunch.Cheers      

It's unfortunate that when we are on winning side we promote raciam and when we are losing side we whine against racism. Qatar does discriminate against people depending upon nationality, religion and gender. It's a universal truth. But my dear friend, if your husband has got such good qualification why not apply to better countries like US. I know most of the qualified Indians or Arabs  in Qatar, work here because they have been already rejected by these 'better' countries.

A woman who married Gabbar Singh 26 years ago has no complaints.

Indians are not educated? What nonsense.

35% employees in Micrsoft US are Indians

20% employees in NASA US are Indians. They sent two Indians to space.

Qatar knows potential of Indians so they prefer Indians.

i am just wondering why if you are an asian you have to pass by the eye of a needle to get a visa in canada.

oh right, because we are uneducated and cant pass the standard set by your country.

why on earth are we allowed to practice our profession here?

oh right because we deliver, at a lower cost and just as good as the higher paid canadians.

globalisation. i love it!

get a life....Will he be willing to tak up a low offer?or would that be demeaning to your race?

WHITE CANADIAN + BLACK NIGERIAN .............. ERRRRRRRRRRR TOTALLY CONFUSED.. 

OK, I'm confused, too. You say your husband already has a visa. Are you sponsoring him? Even so, if he gets a job, as a male, he must transfer to his employer's sponsorship (unlike a wife who works.) If he has a business visa and isn't working for his sponsor that can be considered illegal. Once again, it can be very hard for an employer to get a visa for a Nigerian worker. If you think that's discriminatory, try being a Palestinian! Unfortunately, Qatar does discriminate by nationality, just like Canada. Some nationalites can get visas on arrival to Canada - like Americans and EU members - others must apply and hope.Mandi 

Lets rest aside the theory of RACISM of the OP.

She said that her husband is here on his own visa(RP). If that is the case, therein lies all the trouble.

Resident Visas are issued by the Govt. for companies who need specific employees.

If its a Business Visa or visit visa, ask the one who helped him to get the visa in the first place to land him in a job.

If its a visa bought thru illegal means... face the music

Any way good luck

ABC Engineering is not an oil company.

Second your husband has no practical experience (has not worked in an oil company for minimum of two years)

Third these Engineering Companies many of them are owned by non Qatari.

Four a good oil and gas company has no preferences in selecting a certain nationality for a certain job, they will take the one who can do the job.

jem0955 - you just don't get it. Yes, unfortunately they have positve profiled a nationality and 20% fraud from Nigerian nationals is a very large figure so as they say, once bitten twice shy.

I would suggest if you don't like they way they run things better head off back to good ol' canada....

its funny how some people from the west still think asians are not educated. the arabs have already found out long ago that we are as capable as these people, and we dont ask of the earth for salary.

this mentality of superiority will be the downfall of western countries, as asians are already poised to much better things.

no education. what load of..

Paitence. If your husband is well Qualified, he will get the job....I got my 1st Job in Middle east after a year, that too i thought they called me by mistake for 3 day Assesment...

Don't get me wrong, discrimination in any form should be never tolerated.But it is a truth of life and it is here to stay. 

Now it's clear, she cant bring her husband to CANADA because of visa problem.  Now shes trying to blame Qatar , Indians and Filipinos because her husband cant find job here.Related post> http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1766800

ooohhh!! Yeah i forgot, why do you have to specify that you are a White Canadian? Does it really matter?

So what you mean is Indians and Filipinos are less educated than your husband???????????? If you think Canada is a better place then why not try to get a job there instead?? You tell that your husband has his own visa? How can he work with his own Visa thats against the law.. The company hiring him should provide him with a Your not making sense at all. Your husband might be highly educated but to let you know Indians and Filipinos are also highly educated. 

Dear …

The reason and only reason is SALARY. Indians and Philiphnos are paid less.

I think the mistake you have done is that you are applying locally. If you applied while you are in Canada, you will get hired easily

One more thing, if you apply to Qatar Petroleum, Qatar Gas, Oxy, Shell and similar … it will be another story.

Good Luck !!!

Oh btw, why don't you look for a job? It's really easy for whites to get a job here. Use racism for your own benefit, not just go ranting about it. Whites are somewhat highly regarded and so even if you're underqualified, you might just get it. Getting a job will be a great support for your husband.

Lesson 1: Don't come to Qatar to look for a job. Come here if an employer hires you.Lesson 2: Landlords wouldn't want to shoo away their present tenants by letting another race live where the tenants are all of a certain race. And, maybe your husband is over qualified and companies cannot afford his salary expectation.

youre crying discrimination yet you label filipinos and indians "uneducated". you mrs whoever you are, is racist personified.

filipinos who go abroad studied the same books you whites studied. in fact, only the creme of the crop usually gets the chance of landing a job outside the philippines. indians now has a whole network of support from fellow indians and their education is top notch.

the reason you see a lot of flat owners looking for filipinos is because weve been here a long time and the people you insulted, filipinos and indians has practically built this country.

why dont you try to tell your husband to try harder, everyone is fair game here, because all of us are expats, not local citizens.

jem,you and your husband came here unprepared; and now your blaming me and everybody else here;why not go back to canada; as you said its better there; or nigeria

Wowwww..very interesting to read really. I thought I was the only one who was experiencing racism here when I tried to put my child in nursery and some nurseries would not take except certain nationalities.There is alot of racism here compared to Dubai where I lived all my life and never experienced any form of racism from nationals or expats. Its really not fair that my child couldnt get into certain nurseries just coz we dont have a foreign passport, and its frustrating to see that they base their decisions on race as they dont interview kids or even ask to see them here, where I would understand if they would say it was based on child's level or anything like that. Its just sad really.

I have a question for everyone out there, which may or may not be related to the discrimination issue being discussed here.

A number of countries, including jemo95's home country Canada, presently provide visa on arrival only to certain nationalities while being very strict to those coming from other countries. Isn't this some form of racial discrimination as well? Think about it.

jem0955,Sorry, Im just following your lead.You first called him, Petroleum Engr with honors, theres no namecalling on my part.Dont worry, I'll recommend him in our Planning Dept; hehe

Don't you get this still?  No one should be hiring based on race.  The best person should get the job, not just Philipinos and Indians which is what is happening here.  I'm obviously not racist Jamos.  I'm am anti-racist.  No one should be putting their race on their resumes, yet I see everyone is putting their photograph on their resume.  So many other things should not be there like age, religion, marital status and so on.  That will eliminate companies hiring by race, however, as the best person who said it all in a nutshell, Goldie1, said, "It is quite worrying that that the majority of nationals and expatriates both equally slipping into the most unethical trend of racism without even realising that it is immmoral and unethical.

A difficult situation.  But Mandi and JJJ75 are right.  It is not the fault of the employers, but the visa system, which discriminates based on nationality.  The motivation is not racism.  Instead, it is the consequence of a host of domestic and foreign policy interests of the government.What I don't understand is this:  on what sort of visa are you on to be here in the first place for six months?  Also, if you are Canadian, why not secure a Canadian passport for your husband and then let him apply as a Canadian?

Yes and your Mother wears rubber boots!  How is this got any relevance to what I'm talking about.  Grow up and stop the name calling child!

YES!!!  Finally a rational and reasonable person speaks out.  You have said it like it is in Qatar!  You have nailed what I am trying to say far better than how I started to say it when you made this statement - "quite worrying that that the majority of nationals and expatriates both equally slipping into the most unethical trend of racism without even realising that it is immmoral and unethical."  I can't thank you enough because what you are saying is true and what I have seen for myself over and over again for the past many months.  I never expected to see this or experience this with my husband but racism is very alive here in Qatar and very overt.  'Philipinos and Indians only.'

It isn't possible for every Indian and Philipino to have better credentials than my husband.  Sure there may be some but not all.  Please realize that my husband got his own Visa by making an application for one just like others have done to get here.  We haven't heard of any group of Nigerians working together and living in these communities.  They do stick together supporting one another.  But if you are right, could those Nigerians out there, please contact us for support. The reputation of Qatar around the world for some time is that there are no hard times here with the number of jobs and the papers saying 100's are been hired here everyday.  How can it not be a matter of discrimination when almost every ad for a job or accomodations says things like 'Indians only', 'Phillipinos only', 'Room available for nice Philipino', 'Phino bachelors only' and so on.  If that isn't discrimination, tell me, what is this??  This is my whole point why I wrote this.  Yet people seem to support discrimination and explain it away or put Nigerians down because of scamming in the country but there is scamming everywhere.  I want to reduce the discrimination here and I can guaranty it's here.  As soon as anyone sees me, suddenly their attitude changes and they are all nice and sweet.   

@ OP...you have twisted definitions of racism and insult....try revisiting whatever you wrote...may be you would be able to see it staring right back at you.

So if 20% of the population have been involved in fraud, the entire country should be deemed guilty also!!??  Are you kidding?  That's exactly what starts discrimination.  Lumping everyone into the same group for what a smaller percentage have done.  Don't you know that is typical of any group in the world with some countries greater than others?  Get some stats regarding the number of people scamming in any country.  You may be in for a surprise.  Do you think that whatever country that you are from does not have any scamming going on??  There is more learning to be done in this country. Well my country, Canada, the best in the world, can do what we want and have the money to back us up, HOWEVER, we respect all people.  We try hard not to discriminate against anyone because we believe that all people have the right to respect and fair treatment like anyone else until they prove otherwise.  We don't automatically assume if you are Nigerian, that you are a scammer.  That's insulting to me and my husband. 

It's amazing how some people like jem0955 say how good is the situation in the country where they come from and yet why they still leave that country in the first place and come here to look for a job. Maybe your husband was being discriminated against in Canada as well. If everything is okay in Canada, then what are you guys doing here?

i am so sorry for you...companies have only limited visas .Qatar all visa allocation and visa issues are worst in middle east when compare to UAE ETC. hope in future they will do some changes......... it sucks to get a family visa here .......... 

Before I got here, I reasearched a lot. I assured myself that somebody will employ me, will take care of my accommodation and transportation and will give me an acceptable salary;

Now, your husband comes tagging you along, with no assurance of anything.

And after all these problems he brought you in, you can call him bright?

Very bright indeed, planning engineer!

 My husband already has his own visa and does not require any company to get him one so I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense in this situation. 

"Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Phillipino with no education or experience over my husband?  What is the problem? "What do you mean by this line? Then who do you think is the racist here trying to disciminate other nationality?---Very well said Manidilulur.

I think Mandilurur and jjj75 has clarified your thoughts regarding the discrimination issue.

Yes this amounts to racism and what ever people say about different people of various nationalities, it amounts to racism. Unwillingly and not knowingly people are  trapped in this circle of racism and people do not realise how this is defining the whole society. Similarly people do not understand the meaning of bonded labour, slavery and discrimination. It is quite worrying that that the majority of nationals and expats both equally slipping into the most unethical trend of racism without even realising that it is immmoral and unethical. 

I empathize with your situation jem0955, but Mandilulur is right. The govt allots visas according to nationalities. Companies do look for candidates according to what nationality visas are available to them.I wish you and your husband all the best. I hope his luck turns over pretty soon.

i agree with jjj and mandi that its about the visa thing. 

but, can you clear your statement " Do Qatarians really want this reputation of being racist? Why are you choosing to hire an Indian or Philippino with no education or experience over my husband?

are you accusing the Qataris? in that case, what you call yourself??? is your statement a clear indication of being racist? if these nationalities is not educated, why the big companies in Qatar employ them??? do not be over obsessed of your husband's educational attainment. and besides, this is Qatar, this is not Nigeria or Canada. They have a stand in whatever they do. this is their Country.

~smile always~

Sad to hear your story. Discrimination is happening in some other countries not only in Qatar. But, Mandi is absolutely right, they prefer filipinos and indians not only it is easy to hire them, but their qualifications, dedications and hardworking is already proven nationwide.

I'm sorry to hear that from you.  How are you sure that Filipinos and Indians preferred by the oil companies in Doha are less qualified than your husband who's a Nigerian?  Did you see their credentials?  Also, there are other factors aside from education and experience taken into consideration when hiring, one of which is the visa allocated for a certain position by the immigration department. I quite doubt it's the nationality of your husband because a lot of well placed Nigerians here in Doha (most of them living in Le Mirage & Al Fardan villas) are working in the oil & gas industry.  I understand your situation and truly feel for you as we live now in difficult times all over the world.  It's not a matter of discrimination I will assure you, and Qatar upholds unquestionable integrity in matters related to that subject.   

i agree with Mandilulur

Unfortunately for your husband, Nigerian nationals have been involved in a lot of serious fraud cases here and as such, the authorities are not happy to issue visas to Nigerian nationals

Also, this is their country, they can do what they want and they have the money to back themselves up

Do you understand that the employers are granted visas by nationality? That is, the hiring company holds a certain number of visas for those of specific nationalities. It's easier to obtain visas for Inidans and Filipinos, I'm afraid. Nigerian visas are next to impossible. When the employer says "too bad you're Nigerian" he may sincerely mean it. He would like to hire your husband but can't get the necessary visa.Mandi