Was it morally wrong ?
By MarcoNandoz-01 •
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY THIS PHOTOGRAPHER HAD TIME TO TAKE A PHOTO AND NOT HELP THE MAN?
Ki Suk Han, 58, was pushed onto the tracks of an oncoming Q train by a deranged man, after trying to protect fellow straphangers from him. The New York Post captured the tragic photo, above, as their photographer was in the area cover
covering an unrelated story
Man charged with second degree murder.
Shameful story.
http://news.sky.com/story/1021271/subway-push-suspect-charged-over-nyc-murder
no tashin he was in a hurry to copy paste LMAO :)
News is business. Sensationalism sells. This is why the NYP refused to share the photos with AP..
The OP doesn't give shyt what a midget brained monkey thinks.
Tahsin : This is the story from “The New York Times”.
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/train-wreck-the-new-york-posts-subway-cover/
lol tashsin even ur intelligent ;)
Aoy the OP is not so intelligent like u n believes anything
why help this one? the train is not moving.
if it was, it was just starting to move. shadows of passengers are all at the back which could mean they were left by the train.
and so is the exit sign at the back. it must be the sign for people in the front train car.
i think the area where the person is on the tracks is the clearance area, meters ahead of the train. not enough speed for the train to hit the person without stopping.
plenty of distance to make full stop. plenty of time to help.
>_
Dark ages anyone?
God forbid, if I was put in such a situation.When faced with such terror and panic, it's really hard to know how one would react regardless of how heroic be our instincts now. But I know what I wouldn't have done: I wouldn't be taking pictures for sure!
I think he could have been easily pulled up by two or three people together. There was no risk to their own life, they did not have to step on the rail.
I would not be able to help that person for fear for my own safety. Most of you judging the guy here would be sh1tt1ng your pants if something like this happens in front of you. Frozen at best.
Last year, during the mammoth floods in Pakistan, one teenage boy, managed to save the life of ten people stranded on the rooftop of a house environed by tidal waves. He could not, however, survive his eleventh lap and was swallowed by the waves into its salty bowels. Again, that is exception.
What I was talking about it general behavior. Also it does not mean situation where somone's own life would be in danger. Usually, when in a situation, where help can be extended to a person without incurring a risk yourself, you would act usually when there are no other people around. This has been proven by research. :)
Knowing how fast those trains move, I doubt I'd have done anything but stand still in shock. I wouldn't even be able to pull my camera out or run to help the guy I'm afraid.
There was a case last year where a child fell in between the rails as a train approached. A man jumped on to the track and pressed his body on top of the child to protect her. Luckily both survived..
So, it all depends on the individual. Would i run and help they guy in a similar situation ? I would like to think so, but ....
It is a funny fact about human behavior. Whenever there is someone in immediate peril and urgent rescue by even a single person means the difference between life and death, the chances whether the rescue is offered depends mainly on the number of people witnessing the scence. The chances vary inversely with the size of the crowd. If there is only one single person, it is much more likely that he or she would step forward to help. The chances get slimmer when there are more people say two, three, four or more.
This is that future which was depicted in 'The Time Machine'. Someone was drowning and no one was bothered to do anything.
Apathy at its best, or worst. Bad :/
And no, it does not make sense that he had time to take the photo but not to even try to help the guy on the tracks. If he didn't have the courage to help, he might as well have refrained from taking the picture as well.
Its not as easy as commenting on Bulletin boards
First of all courage is needed.
Then... to decide your own safety... is it safe enough to "go in"? All this, in cases like the above, including what action to take... have taken to be taken within 3 to 4 seconds.
I think it was wise on the photographer's part to not go in... or in desperation the guy would have pulled him down... and this I have seen happen with my own eyes... (The guy who came to save was pulled down and the victim jumped up on the platform and ran away.... but luckily 3 to 4 guys came together to pull this guy up also... this was possible as the approaching train was very very slow...)
Also possibly he was clicking the train... when this bloke decided to walk the track... cause there would have been hardly any time to take out phone/camera, open keypad lock, go to camera, by the time the camera focuses... the action would have taken place... I guess this whole finding the camera, booting up, aiming, focusing etc thing would take at least 10 seconds to ...
Yes it is morally wrong!
I don’t believe a word of that photographer crap. He didn't even try to help the guy get back on the platform. Instead he acted on first instinct, which was to take pictures, and that’s exactly what He did.
You just need to look at the photo and how nicely it was taken to come to the conclusion that this story about using the flash from his camera to warn the train driver is a load of sugar!
Nope he definitely wasn't out to “warn” the conductor, what a lame excuse for not helping. And in the end he got his pictures Everyone “gasped” , the old man got mashed up and no one helped. His story about his physical weakness is another load of sugar, you don’t need to be a frikin superman to grab a 59 year old skinny man by the hand and pull them off the tracks .
not much distance between him n the platform looks like another shyte story
We can all make judgement calls from a distance..
judge fro this excerpt taken from the Vancouver Sun..
"Abbasi said in an audio clip on the Post's website that he used the flash on his camera to try to warn the train driver that someone was on the tracks. He said he wasn't strong enough to lift Han.
"I wanted to help the man, but I couldn't figure out how to help," Abbasi said. "It all happened so fast."
The moral issue among professional photojournalists in such situations is "to document or to assist," said Kenny Irby, an expert in the ethics of visual journalism at the Poynter Institute, a Florida-based non-profit journalism school.
Other media outlets chimed in on the controversy, many questioning why the photograph had been taken and published.
"I'm sorry. Somebody's on the tracks. That's not going to help," said Al Roker on NBC's "Today" show as the photo was displayed.
CNN's Soledad O'Brien tweeted: "I think it's terribly disturbing — imagine if that were your father or brother." Larry King reached out to followers on Twitter to ask: "Did the (at)nypost go too far?"
The Post declined to share the photo with The Associated Press for distribution.
Subway pushes are feared but fairly unusual. Among the more high-profile cases was the January 1999 death of Kendra Webdale, who was shoved to her death by a former mental patient.
This is what that sick photographer said in one of these statements.
(“I just started running, running, hoping that the driver could see my flash)
My question is, how does taking pictures tell a conductor to stop a train? Huh?
What conductor would think, “Oh, look, someone’s taking pictures hmmmmm ,maybe I should stop the train!!!
britexpat... my comment is in the background of a molestation case (which I guess was even posted here sometime back when I wasnt active and used to only find time to read late in the nights) in India where the photos and videos were done by journalists and bystanders but none came forward to the rescue of the girl. And am sure there are many such cases elsewhere. A shameful picture of todays society indeed.
I fo with the comment of pixiqueen.
BE: R. Umar Abbasithe, “the name of person who took that picture", (who also happens to be of Iranian Descent) , and the NY post that published this sickening photo should be ashamed of themselves! How do you take a picture of a man about to be hit by a train instead of trying to help him off the track!
Though the train looks not very close, it takes only a click's time for the train to hit him. Maybe the photographer was far.
sadly, in a reflection of our society today - most people either froze or did not want to interfere...
Because everyone seems to be busy clicking to post it somewhere like FB etc. I guess there must be a video footage also on youtube of about 5-10 minutes with some portions shot from a distance of say 1 ft or so and after a while we may hear it went viral and had millions of clicks in just a week or so.
Why is no one pulling the guy up?
The story as I read yesterday, was that the photo was taken by someone on the platform. The poor man wa involved in a fracas with another and was pushed on to the tracks.
One guy tried to warn the driver, but it was too late..
Did tat guy survived ?
for getting some bloody story these people forget humanity...:(