Dear guys, I'm going to share living with a lady in the same apartment, we are not married. is there is any problem about that issue regarding Qatari law? friends, I want to notice that i mean the legal concern not people habits.
So you would not dare to live with your girlfriend even though she was the prettiest and sweetest thing on earth? Lots of my friends live with their girlfriends and that don't cause any huge problems. We even have inter religous (christian and muslim) that stay together because of love.
Read todays tread about love, wealth and succes
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/51118
So love is more important than any law or rule in my book
- I took the blue pill and found myself alive in Qatar - wish I had taken the red and stayed in Europe
I am having the same situation with you. And we are not alone. It is ok. So long as you are not staying in company accomodation, no one really cares unless you do something that distrubs others.
you ask: “What are you looking from the share? “. And then you give the “answers”: saving money, having fan.... I would put it simple. As any normal person in the world, all young (and not too young) gals and guys looking for a Normal Warm HOME! A Normal Warm HOME usually involves at least two persons of the opposite gender. Normal Warm HOME usually is kept by Lady , who looks after it in a way that only LADY can do, and supported by MAN , in a way that only MAN can do (and it’s not only about money). This traditional Warm Home is known for thousands and thousands years. You suggest elhdidy to share place with other man... I personally find it much more destructive, unnatural and sinful when two-three-four guys are sharing home, sometimes they r even sharing one room! And since it’s impossible for majority of single guys in Qatar to have their own independent accommodation, it’s much more natural, much healthier (physically and mentally) to share your flat/villa with the opposite gender. In order to expect people to obey your rules, you first must provide these people with the particular appropriate conditions. It’s not right to say : “YOU CANNOT SHARE this or that” since the accommodation in Qatar is a bloody hell problem!
the rule clearly states a person needs to be caught in the action for it to be classified as adultery...never mind the witnesses. and again doha and its loop holes, gray areas, bias, racism,,blah blah...it comes down to what nationality you and gf are...however, discretion is the best method, but living an apartment isnt the best idea for that...get a house in a compound and maybe u have less to worry about...
Ok, pretty simple, he said GIRLFRIEND. They will be having intercourse, where the man places penis in vagina!
Who is going to be in his bedroom with them checking on them. You need to read the facts and myths page about Qatar. It will NEVER be an issue if they aren't fornicating in a public place. You can even hold hands in Qatar now! People need to stopp being Pu55ies.
Friend, may I ask you one thing? Did you ask you self first “What I am looking from the share? “
The answer should be one of the following:
1- Looking for money saving!!
If you are looking for money saving that you can simply find if you share your flat with a man, and it will be good to have your partner with a Muslim man.
2- Looking for having fun!!
I think what you are looking for that, it will be against the:
A) Religion, it is clearly mentioned in Islam that “evil will be the third if unmarried man and woman will be together”.
B) Low, you are living in eastern Muslim country that type of relations not allowed at all.
C) Human nature, you cannot say that no sex relation, or thinking in a sexy way, will even happen for one time, which might drive you to follow human nature to have a sex relation with your lady partner.
Try to ask someone of your friends, who may have experience with the country culture, and people traditions in Qatar , he may help you to give you advice about such case.
Finally, think more than hundred times about what you are thinking …..!!!
LEO is a Law Enforcement Officer. I've been in Qatar for a little more than a year, and have had quite the nightlife involving women, alcohol, friends, etc... and never once did I have any problems. Hell one time I was waiting for a friend of mine to get off work at Villagio and I was alseep in the truck out behind the mall. The police came and asked what I was doing. I showed them my American I.D. card and told them I'm waiting for a friend to get off work and I'll park somewhere else. No problems. C'mon, I'm sure they knew I'm American and waiting for a "Friend" that I was picking up a woman. I've given a hug to my "friend" and a quick kiss goodbye as she would go to work. No problems. We used to relax on the beach chairs behind Intercon Hotel. Walk the beach holding hands, at night of course. But never any problems.
I have many, many friends that live together with girlfriends, prostitutes, etc... It is common as a Westerner to have female co-workers and live literally next door to them within the same villas. Many of them travel together, dine together, party together. As long as your not "making-out" in public and conduct yourselves appropriatly you will be fine. No one is going to go out of their way in this matter. Do you know how many people the LEO would have to stop daily to question each and every couple? It would be a waste of time unless they are doing something questionable in public. I've spent many nights with many different women out on the town in Doha and never had a problem. I've even dined with a couple Qatari men who were dating co-workers of my girlfriend. No one really cares about this stuff until you do something stupid to attract attention.
and its the law here. If you are caught, you and your girlfriend will be lucky to be deported. cos I am right, the man will be castrated and the female will be stoned to death....
I guess if something is illegal in ANY country, it's a case of taking a risk isn't it. Only need to rub a neighbour the wrong way and they may turn you into the police etc.
staying with girlfreind it is common matter in doha, so many people living with their girlfreinds showing that they are husband and wife, it is against the law and order of qatar, if all people doing like that no need to marry, "husband and wife this gift by allah and this is a nature" if you marry her this is good for you and your freind that allah give her a good relation with man, what is the meaning of staying with girl without marriege, nothing but call girl or prostitution, it is against the islam, read islamic letrature and quran that give a legal advise
It is against the law, and punishable as mentioned above. However, many people do it and you will generally only get caught if you flaunt it or upset someone who reports you.
"only mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun"
You don't need the opinion of a lawyer you need to take the sound advice you have been give here. This is the law! However, you are a grown man and have to take decisions on your own at your own risk and that of your girlfriend.
You can ask many people and they will tell you no one will ever know, but it just takes one nosey neighbour to understand and then all hell will break loose.
Regarding staying with girl friend issue .I think that we need lawyer opinion.If any body has the experince just inform us that you have the legal experince please.
Second im speaking about the law or the legal .I need lowyer opinion for this matter.There is any power for a police man to come home and ask who is this girl or not?.
With all do respect to your opiniun,I havent seen any country or city,if y find one let me know, that will be welling to change their laws to adopt to the residents none the less to a visiter???? now if y are a citizen of that country y might be able to do so by voting?
I learned that NO matter where y are you have to respect the Law of that land
For sure there's a legal problem in living together without marraige. This is not a western country and you might end up in facing charges for doing so.
Friend you already know the cultures and practices in here.
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So you would not dare to live with your girlfriend even though she was the prettiest and sweetest thing on earth? Lots of my friends live with their girlfriends and that don't cause any huge problems. We even have inter religous (christian and muslim) that stay together because of love.
Read todays tread about love, wealth and succes
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/51118
So love is more important than any law or rule in my book
- I took the blue pill and found myself alive in Qatar - wish I had taken the red and stayed in Europe
Hi elhdidy,
I am having the same situation with you. And we are not alone. It is ok. So long as you are not staying in company accomodation, no one really cares unless you do something that distrubs others.
Think2
you ask: “What are you looking from the share? “. And then you give the “answers”: saving money, having fan.... I would put it simple. As any normal person in the world, all young (and not too young) gals and guys looking for a Normal Warm HOME! A Normal Warm HOME usually involves at least two persons of the opposite gender. Normal Warm HOME usually is kept by Lady , who looks after it in a way that only LADY can do, and supported by MAN , in a way that only MAN can do (and it’s not only about money). This traditional Warm Home is known for thousands and thousands years. You suggest elhdidy to share place with other man... I personally find it much more destructive, unnatural and sinful when two-three-four guys are sharing home, sometimes they r even sharing one room! And since it’s impossible for majority of single guys in Qatar to have their own independent accommodation, it’s much more natural, much healthier (physically and mentally) to share your flat/villa with the opposite gender. In order to expect people to obey your rules, you first must provide these people with the particular appropriate conditions. It’s not right to say : “YOU CANNOT SHARE this or that” since the accommodation in Qatar is a bloody hell problem!
lot of people doing it ... but it is still illegal. My advice ... dont do it. And if you do it. Make sure no one knows.
the rule clearly states a person needs to be caught in the action for it to be classified as adultery...never mind the witnesses. and again doha and its loop holes, gray areas, bias, racism,,blah blah...it comes down to what nationality you and gf are...however, discretion is the best method, but living an apartment isnt the best idea for that...get a house in a compound and maybe u have less to worry about...
Ok, pretty simple, he said GIRLFRIEND. They will be having intercourse, where the man places penis in vagina!
Who is going to be in his bedroom with them checking on them. You need to read the facts and myths page about Qatar. It will NEVER be an issue if they aren't fornicating in a public place. You can even hold hands in Qatar now! People need to stopp being Pu55ies.
Here: http://qatarvisitor.blogspot.com/2006/11/living-in-qatar-myths-and-realities.html
"Milk and Cookies go together like Champagne and Doggie-Style."
Friend, may I ask you one thing? Did you ask you self first “What I am looking from the share? “
The answer should be one of the following:
1- Looking for money saving!!
If you are looking for money saving that you can simply find if you share your flat with a man, and it will be good to have your partner with a Muslim man.
2- Looking for having fun!!
I think what you are looking for that, it will be against the:
A) Religion, it is clearly mentioned in Islam that “evil will be the third if unmarried man and woman will be together”.
B) Low, you are living in eastern Muslim country that type of relations not allowed at all.
C) Human nature, you cannot say that no sex relation, or thinking in a sexy way, will even happen for one time, which might drive you to follow human nature to have a sex relation with your lady partner.
Try to ask someone of your friends, who may have experience with the country culture, and people traditions in Qatar , he may help you to give you advice about such case.
Finally, think more than hundred times about what you are thinking …..!!!
LEO is a Law Enforcement Officer. I've been in Qatar for a little more than a year, and have had quite the nightlife involving women, alcohol, friends, etc... and never once did I have any problems. Hell one time I was waiting for a friend of mine to get off work at Villagio and I was alseep in the truck out behind the mall. The police came and asked what I was doing. I showed them my American I.D. card and told them I'm waiting for a friend to get off work and I'll park somewhere else. No problems. C'mon, I'm sure they knew I'm American and waiting for a "Friend" that I was picking up a woman. I've given a hug to my "friend" and a quick kiss goodbye as she would go to work. No problems. We used to relax on the beach chairs behind Intercon Hotel. Walk the beach holding hands, at night of course. But never any problems.
what is LEO?
Have you lived in Doha a long time? I don't think I've ever seen you post on here before .. and I think I would have noticed you! :D
who knows they may bring some new rules in the rent law regarding who can stay and who cannot
I have many, many friends that live together with girlfriends, prostitutes, etc... It is common as a Westerner to have female co-workers and live literally next door to them within the same villas. Many of them travel together, dine together, party together. As long as your not "making-out" in public and conduct yourselves appropriatly you will be fine. No one is going to go out of their way in this matter. Do you know how many people the LEO would have to stop daily to question each and every couple? It would be a waste of time unless they are doing something questionable in public. I've spent many nights with many different women out on the town in Doha and never had a problem. I've even dined with a couple Qatari men who were dating co-workers of my girlfriend. No one really cares about this stuff until you do something stupid to attract attention.
and its the law here. If you are caught, you and your girlfriend will be lucky to be deported. cos I am right, the man will be castrated and the female will be stoned to death....
I wouldn't even need to address with the lawyer.
Its so simple, If it is legal it wouldn't have consumed so many posts , warning signs & friendly alerts...
Moreover, the police man once if identifies there's an illegal affair for sure he has the right to question and produce whoever involved before court.
There's no need for lawyers opinion for a transparent issue.
It is illegal, and there are consequences like jail or deportation. But it still happens discreetly, though there is a risk ofcourse.
I think it there are chances to get caught, only if some1 reports to police
I guess if something is illegal in ANY country, it's a case of taking a risk isn't it. Only need to rub a neighbour the wrong way and they may turn you into the police etc.
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
tell me,,, how does it go thr???
iz police alwys on the look out for such couples r u get caugth if someone reports it?
worked in Saudi years and years ago. They weren't married, but so that she could go to Saudi with him she changed her name by Deed Poll to his.
Probably just as well, really, cos at the time I knew them they were splitting up and each going off with a different partner anyway.
marriage ???????????????
nahhhhhh
if after all said n done u still want to live with your GF do a Registered marriage .... many ppl do that here just to be in the safe side of the law
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
legal or not... wht are the chances for u to get caugth?
wht iz the punishment if u get caugth?
what you will be doing is ILLEGAL plain and simple.
And you know that.
where does the doubt come from naturally.
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share your life with me as we are different:)
staying with girlfreind it is common matter in doha, so many people living with their girlfreinds showing that they are husband and wife, it is against the law and order of qatar, if all people doing like that no need to marry, "husband and wife this gift by allah and this is a nature" if you marry her this is good for you and your freind that allah give her a good relation with man, what is the meaning of staying with girl without marriege, nothing but call girl or prostitution, it is against the islam, read islamic letrature and quran that give a legal advise
Thank for your reply...Discretion and silence is the best method.
The Red Pope of Qatar Living
It is against the law, and punishable as mentioned above. However, many people do it and you will generally only get caught if you flaunt it or upset someone who reports you.
"only mad dogs and englishmen go out in the midday sun"
I feel like a lot of this companies are a bunch controllers...
The Red Pope of Qatar Living
Take the advice of "Plankton". confimed by our company lawyer in a previous simillar case.
You don't need the opinion of a lawyer you need to take the sound advice you have been give here. This is the law! However, you are a grown man and have to take decisions on your own at your own risk and that of your girlfriend.
You can ask many people and they will tell you no one will ever know, but it just takes one nosey neighbour to understand and then all hell will break loose.
Its not allowed, do not take chances. By doing so you are inviting trouble to your's and your g/f's career.
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Regarding staying with girl friend issue .I think that we need lawyer opinion.If any body has the experince just inform us that you have the legal experince please.
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Second im speaking about the law or the legal .I need lowyer opinion for this matter.There is any power for a police man to come home and ask who is this girl or not?.
Im ask again about the law not opinions.
plankton:
With all do respect to your opiniun,I havent seen any country or city,if y find one let me know, that will be welling to change their laws to adopt to the residents none the less to a visiter???? now if y are a citizen of that country y might be able to do so by voting?
I learned that NO matter where y are you have to respect the Law of that land
strictly not allowed, can be prosecuted with deportation in the simplest cases, up to imprisonment and lashes.
And I am not kidding... Adultery between oposites sexes without being married is a seriuos issue.
For westeners there seams to be some gray area... but in light of resent activities of the governmet to
preserver their culture I would not want to try how big that gray area is...
They want us here... but they for sure do not adapt their laws for us !
hi buddy
Good day & hope you are doing well.
For sure there's a legal problem in living together without marraige. This is not a western country and you might end up in facing charges for doing so.
Friend you already know the cultures and practices in here.