hospitals rejects patient.

Hey, why are people fighting here. Each one of us has a right to post, and people can respond logically, with experience or etc. Preferably helping one another.

MN, surprising, since you are Qatari, anyone will deny your friend medical assistance!

somethings just not right....

rdsouza...did i stop you from posting your view? You provided your "fact", then why ask me when you were asked to present it? I didn't cite any incidence, so why give me the burden of proof? I know a lot who works in the ER of HH, i can ask them your incident of racism if you want. some had been there for more than 8 yrs...

Anyway, since you have no proof of it's existence, i won't argue further.

Have a good day!

Colea,

I return the same question to you, please provide us evidence that there have never been cases of anyone rejected treatment by individuals...

Are you not assuming too ?

Bear in mind, this is a public forum and every individual has a right to express whatever he feels, Assumption or whatever. What gives you the right to stop people from expressing their assumption ?

Marco...fyi...it is not an Emergency case...

Temporary hyperglycemia is often benign and asymptomatic. Blood glucose levels can rise well above normal for significant periods without producing any permanent effects or symptoms. However, chronic hyperglycemia at levels more than slightly above normal can produce a very wide variety of "serious complications over a period of years", including kidney damage, neurological damage, cardiovascular damage, damage to the retina or damage to feet and legs.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperglycemia

rdsouza...please check my question to you...i asked you to provide an instance where it happened, which you did not reply to. Therefore, no facts lead to assumption. Simple.

If it is an emergency case - life threatening, then she should have been treated.

She should have had her card renewed.

FathimaH: It was at the HH emergency Department.

And Yes I find it strange as well, Because I had a friend who’s son was born with hypoxic child (lack of oxygen to the brain) and the child received very good medical care and at minimum charge.

A high blood sugar level, or hyperglycemia, is dangerous in that it can lead to stroke, eye and nerve disorders. So yup it poses a health risk factor.

Colea, by your own logic how do you ASSUME nothing when someone actually reports an event here ?

rdsouza...are you familiar of the word assumption? Don't assume if you know nothing.

Furthermore, could, should and would are all "advisory" words, which means you have a basis why you are advising that these instances happens.

Coela,

do you understand the meaning of the word " could be ? "

Dont generalise for the sake of giving expert comments.

Thnks coela for yr responsible and wise comments hope op and other few of his buddies supporting him shud the actual facts and the source of th enews before making allegations about hamad which is helping lot of poor ppl with its low cost high quality treatment comparing to expensive private hospitals like al-ahli and american hospital

You r right Angelo, I took one guy to the emergency and gave the passport and visa copy only. they attended him immediately.

rdsouza...are you familiar with the word "TRIAGE"? Go figure that out first before posting comment citing racism being a case. Also, can you cite an instance where somebody in a near-death experience, was denied treatment because of his nationality?

I salute you for the info and clearing the doubts here ...

'' .. A non-medical personnel's "assessment" is not valid, as what is life threatening to your view, may not be technically ...''

Hope people come out of the 'complex' someday ..

Please come more often at QL.

Hamad is a great institute, catering to thousands of expats and locals , spending a great deal of money. God bless it, you wont see this kind of service in many other middle east countries.

I dont think it has a official policy that denies care to dying person, however it could be the decision of the nut that was on duty that time. Often the employees , who due to their own racist behaviour deny service and spoil the name of this institute.

myid66 but u never went in emergency and it is good to renew ur card...

OP is mentioning critical (which in medical terms could be life threatning) btw soon he will provide me with wiki links for the exact definitions :-)

First and foremost, High Blood Sugar Level(HyperGlycemia) is not treated as Emergency. A person's life is not at stake here. A non-medical personnel's "assessment" is not valid, as what is life threatening to your view, may not be technically. It's like, you're telling a doctor that he did something wrong, coming from a non-medical's point of view? Marco, did you check his vital signs? Is he in state of shock? Hamad Hospital is for EMERGENCY cases, and because HyperGlycemia is not treated as Emergency, she was referred to an available Health Centre.

Answer this: Did she die when she moved to the other hospital, or was she in a state of Coma? If not, then it's not an Emergency at all.

I suggest you learn all the facts first, as you are making an accussation based mostly on your assumptions. I am not from HH, nor i have a relative that worked there, just stating the facts.

yes its happened with me also,last time when I went for medical treatment they ask me to ist renew my health card so I have to renew it and later get treatment.I agree that we should ready our documents but problem with health cards they are just renewing it and the expiry date is remaine same.I think there must be a way to check the validity of the card and if some one have any adea how to check the validity of the card please let me know. Thanks!!

at cherukkan

i hate it when it goes below 80 (i'm hypoglycemic)

and below 80 is far more dangerous and urgent than above 120. hypoglycemic coma is way more fatal than hyperglycemic coma.

Everybody can see the nefarious design of the title [ plural noun ].

People are wise enough.

I respect your observation.Seems very true to me.

Same way it was pointed by another honest QLer who even had the doubt that rubbish story at city centre was all made up [ fabricated purposely ].

That QLer demanded from Marco to prove whether that rotten garbage in the picture in a city centre' restaurant was his own left over food , as if that QLer was sure about the fake allegation there too ?

Question still remains unaswered, tomorrow is Sunday.

fake allegations and fake news maybe he was dreaming MN always spreading rumour news from saudi arabia ,qatar and crime at city centre for food cleaning we can see his brain all over his boy making him think sick news need mental treatment

MN, Could you post the source.

I am a diabetic for the last many years and I never had any problem with high blood sugar even it went above 300 at least once in evey three months. There is no way to find it unless I check my bloos sugar but I do recognize quickly when my blood sugar goes below 80.

Good, not taking anything at the face value.

But I hope no one would spread rumours as what is to be gained out of it.

I bow to the truth in your comments ..

Congratulations for having a freedom of thought which a few choose to enjoy ..

how critical was she? was it an emergency in the first case? how did she know it was high sugar, they did mesure it?

high blood sugar is usually not an emergency: normal blood sugar is 80 to 120 but in uncontrolled diabetic it can be 300 for years and the patient feels nothing.

i also think its kinda false allegation, as it's a personal expierence , firstly with no cards, secondly on visit visa and in both cases they only i guess treated us first and charge us more than normal.... but they always treated ...never refused.....

strange indeed!

In case of emergency they should not deny patient...first and foremost important thing is to save a life...if they deny and if someone dies its like they killed them. however it is really necessary to send back people who have situations which wont be fatal or too dangerous to enable them to keep their docs ready and follow the law of the land otherwise I am sure a huge population will be standing in queue without proper papers.

Where was this at? The health center or emergency? Cos the few times I have turned up at the health center with my health card expired I was simply made to pay 100QR and had the card renewed then and there, and given the analysis and medication I required.

As for the emergency unit, then I did take my mom over there when she was here on a vacation (visit visa)and she received not only treatment but even a minor surgery all for free!

Strange then that this lady was turned away due to an expired health card! Certainly she should report it to the authorities as suggested by Angelo.

Core issue something else ( may be), the issue is only one ended, if we can hear from other end (HH Hospital) we may know the exact reason for denying the medical help.

On the otherhand, we can renew the card on the spot itself,

Also HH will never deny emergency medical help

Hamad Hospital has a suggestions box at the emergency (male end Female) area, please fill out the form and they will action it.

I was at the emergency some time back, and a Qatari guy was checking the box, He said they check the box every few hours and immediate action is taken if some serious issues are raised.

Hamad Hospital have some international agency certifying them, so they have improved a lot.

MN are you a local? Just asking, as your profile says Qatar.

My Govt. Health Card, has expired twice, but I have never been refused medical assistance at the Health Centre or Hamad Hospital.

I have taken my friend as well to Hamad Hospital, in an emmergency and they did not turn him away. This also applies to some other people I know.

Kind of surprising that they would do that!

Per my knowledge, they would evaluate the patient, provide emergency medical care and refer the patient to their health centre for follow up.

It is so sad to hear

OMG..its really sad to see this forum became unhelpful..people dont care what they comment and actually they just do it to show that they dont really care...where are the mods...!

if your medical card is expired there is an option to renew it at the same time in hamad or any of the health centerss. Else you have the option to pay 100 rials as consultation fees and get treated.

Yes Let the patients in critical siutations decide how they should die. very helpful comment indeed.

Let the public / patients decide whether they find it important to renew their med. cards in due time.

MM: do you understand the diference between making a statement and asking a question?

A statement, gives information or opinion.

A response is not necessarily required.

A question asks for information or opinion.

A response is usually required.

What I posted above was A question, not A statement.

These are your words ... '' so it's ok if a critically ill patient dies, because he/she forgot to renew his/her medical card?''

Not mine.

MN, Dont Wish bad for anyone..

and QL is not a HH Complaint BOX neither for anyother...

so it's ok if a critically ill patient dies, because he/she forgot to renew his/her medical card?

MM: I wish it happens to you.

Either follow the rules or face the consequences.

Apparently if someone hits the wall who is going to be hurt ..

MM: thanks for your comment, but how is it exactly relevant to the topic at hand?

For example .. When someone says he has right to drive on a road , he should be prepared to pay 6K QRs to excercise that right if he bluntly refuses to stop at red traffic lights .

Kadabrasha: what does it cost to install some brains in your thick skull?

most of your comments on QL are just dumb and says alot about your mentality

LOL: the human life is more sacred than admisitrative formalities!

don't you agree?

MM: People have a right to urgent medical attention when they need it, regardless of paper status.

bad ppl create bad ideas

why MN always comes with the bad news ?? :D

happens to those who are unable to keep their documents updated ..

This was avoidable indeed.