Filipino Inmates In QATAR-HowCan We help Them

Bad people are treated bad, they deserve what they get, jail and deport all of them.. hard labour.

Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.

they still deserves second chance despite what they have done...

they r also human beings..

Not all prisoners are killers or committed brutal crimes. In Saudi there was a case with Sarah Balabagan, who got mistreated by her employer, (attemted rape)...search it...

Each case has its own merrit, and should be treated according to evidence, and all nationalities should be trialed under the same law with the same consequences.

We are not saying release all murderers, but treat them as human beings, with respect. The original idea of the thread was meant to give help in terms of cushions, blankets, food packets, toothbrush etc, and load to call their families back home from time to time.

Ask yourself... if this was your family member sitting in another country in jail for whatever reason, would you not like to hear that he/she is ok, and being treated appropriatly?

We are not saying release all prisoners, but there is also programs between governments where prisoners are sent to jail in their own countries.

why should killers expect mercy anyway?

You hear about that news Qatarita, Try to go inside the police station & check all the murder cases there in your own kind.

evryone deserves a second chance..

Commit a crime. Do the time. Don't expect help.

have been validated, investigated (properly) or just a court ruling who prefers the people with money rather than justice itself?

You mentioned also", as i quote, "Have you noticed that hardly ever do Qataris murder one another, or Gulf nationals or muslims for that matter, because taking a life is an atrocious crime one is accountable in Gods eyes. To most of us anothers life is not yours to take."

True, but we can not discount a news blackout in this region for such heinous crimes. How many cases of maids being maltreated, abandoned, and worst killed, but left unreported and killers or guilty Arabs went free just paying the blood money as they say?

I too do not condone those murderers and any of their kind, but am too is just human believing that mistakes cannot be solved by another mistake.

"Adda ti adal na, ngem awan ti sursuro na."

I heard from one of my Pilipino friends, of a Pilipino guy that found an expensive phone, they say he tried to find the owner but could not, so he placed his sim in the phone and used it, until he was found out and arrested, in jail he went, they all felt sorry for him, I just asked , why did he not call one of the numbers stored in the phone and find the owner in one call. No he did not so he stole the phone, he deserves all he got. Jail to the guy. They all felt sorry for him. He is a thief end of story

Power to the non believers, it’s a great feeling to have and hold.

But murder (this guy killed his girlfriend) is a different from vehicular manslaughter. And if a Qatari murdered someone then they will go to jail, too; or even face execution.

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Let me point this too everyone, for every Qatari that commits vehicular manslaughter and gets caught, they are always bailing themselves with blood money and wasta.

Unfortunately, for a westerner or non-westerner who commits any type of crime or misdemeanor the full text of the law is enforce in full.

Before anyone jumps to their own conclusion, I know for fact that some Qatari vehicular criminals are given light sentences or a few months in partial detention.

Unless you are a dissident of the current monarchy. Then they will throw away the jail key and you will rot on jail.

You guys remember during the Asian Games the kid on the land cruiser, who was harassing a couple of Qatari females in the road heading to the games and cause the driver to panic and crash the vehicle killing all passengers?

Who did went to jail for that? No one, blood money was paid off in hand to the victims of the family.

So, don't tell me that Qataris are so perfect!

Nothing personal against Qataris, but the truth needs to be spoken in full.

being treated with "hospitality", PangASAR. And I do not think 5 years is an appropriate sentence for murder. I think life in prison is more appropriate.

I understanding prison ministry (for spiritual purposes) but complaining that the priosners have been cut off from their families??? This is the result of their crimes.

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Persecute the sinners but forgive those who asks for forgiveness.. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy."

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"There are three types of men:

One who makes things happen;

One who watches things happen;

One who wonders what happen."

people have different personalities and have diferrent insights on things...The right of one may not be the right of another...respect each other's opinion. :)

I am no one to judge even the most sinful man in the world. Afterall, in HIM all of us will answer..

We are only humans..we made mistakes..who doesn't? Let's give others a chance to have a new life..or to prepare to have a new life after paying the consequences of their wrong doing..

Have a good day to all. (._.)

QATARITA im not saying only murderer but all cases

depends if it is grusome or light. Small things only. It seems you dont have that heart for small things. But we filipinos have a big heart on small things pertaining in HELPING Kahit sino kaman!

No Sympathy for murdurers! A strong word to reply & boost,

Correct! I am with you Qatarita. In terms of nationality we filipino's are very different in your understanding. Let me point out to you that there are certain EX-con who succeded in their life by doing on their own ways cause they are very cautios in dealing with the people who new them. In terms of helping the the filipino inmates its our business as filipino's not your's what ever your country is

were very lucky if a filipino murderer would go out for 5yrs. What would your goverment will look like to other country. The law on murder in all country is pretty much the same. Our people in jail lost their family communication co'z of limitations implemented by the jail.

Still I address your reply. Hope you will not be in jail prevent it. It suck's living with other nationalities in jail. No help coming from your family. Think of this way youre in their situation. In our country we treat other nationality in jail with hospitality. Were not allowed to hurt other nationality except if he'd really bad.

Again to all filipinos who like to help this inmates specially those in the central jail. Go with the people in the embassy. They can guide you there. Give them something to communicate to their family. I heard they needed most QCARD to call international. They can use this for a month already. Just to say I LOVE U! to their love one's . Kamusta na anak ko?, Yun mga anak mo matatalino nag eexcel sya sa academics! Or ANAK HAPPY BIRTHDAY! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! kahit anong makapagpapagaan ng loob sa kanila. Or to hear this words I LOVE YOU MAMA or PAPA. I MISSED YOU SO MUCH!

The best part to hear from them. HONEY HIHINTAYIN KO ANG PAG UWI MO! DADDY AANTAYIN KITA KAKAIN TAYO SA MAXXXXXXX!

Touching ba! I heard their story but not interested to know all the details kasi naiiyak na ako huhuhuhu.

People in jail are subjected to psychological deficiency if not properly communicated or in absolute isolation.

O nababaliw na sila.

Imagine if your isolated for many years? Anwer on your own.

Your help is greately appreciated by GOD not by anybody!

Mabuhay ang mga FILIPINO!

she's so mad at Filipinos..

anger could kill you.

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L♥VE LIFE!

Well, I won't disagree that compassion and forgiveness are often counter-intuitive, seem to defy common sense and are impractical in the extreme. I guess that's why we are so strongly enjoined to practice them in our daily lives as Christians. We probably need to take seriously what (our) God asks of us and see what this is calling us to do. The answer/response may be different for different people.

Mandi

I have no sympathy for people who murder and I dont share your ideology...If anything i only feel for the the unfortunate families of those who were murdered at the hands the people you all sypathise with, and my sypathy goes for all people of any nationality whom have been unfortunate to have met with these monsters...maybe its this apathy you peddle which makes your crime rates so high in your home country and the contries you inhabit

Mandi, thank you so much for helping me explain things to Qatarita.. And regardless of religion, we should have a forgiving heart. This is a very hard thing to do. But we should also bear in mind that we are our brothers' keepers too.

If not us, who else will help them start anew? Making them feel like they don't deserve to be treated well will only make them worse individuals.

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Qatarita, as strange as it may seem, Christians are obligated to help those who are in prison. It is like zakat or hajj for Muslims. We are asked to "feed the hungry, clothe the naked and visit those who are strangers and those in prison." (Matthew 25) We are also commanded to forgive those who sin against us.

Mandi

Qatarita..you misunderstood pangAsar. he meant he just wanted to help those who are inside. Meaning - assistance when it comes to small things like food and necessities. Also, it has been a common practice for governments to plead for consideration - that their people be sent home and pay for their fault in their home country. that way, there would be greater chance for starting anew. Mind you, not only Philippines does this. If your people living in other countries did something wrong - whether it may be something they did on purpose or just for self-defense,your government will surely do the same thing. Bring the people home and pay for their verdict under their supervision.

pangAsar didn't say he wishes that all Filipino convicts be freed. If they did something wrong they have to pay for it. By posting this topic,he just wished to express his sympathy for our fellow countrymen - regardless of what they did. That is a human feeling and he wants to help them in his own little way.

We need not to compare Qataris to Filipinos or Muslims to Christians. that is the least thing we should do. How will we ever lessen racism, prejudice, religious arguments if we think this way.Open your eyes and see if muslims really do rarely hurt each other.

I say let us treat each other equally..no religion..no race..we are human beings..and everyone makes mistakes..those Filipinos inside the penitentiary, they didn't wish to be there. And they are already paying for the sin that they did. You have no idea how much their conscience is torturing them. So don't add up by throwing criticisms when you do not know what really happened. We have one God. and our God is a forgiving God.

learn to have that heart too.

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I heard great stories of our fellow filipino who have been in jail for the past 5yrs. Its good to know the filipinos are very few inside the penetentiary. I heard 1 there finished 5-6 yrs already for killing his girlfriend another for killing a friend for self defense.

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The very fact that you speak of a want to help people who choose to murder other people; condoning that its 'great news' that they got out after taking other peoples lives is deeply disturbing.

At the risk of sounding racist i'm simply stating a fact that for the past 30 years i have heard of an alarming rate of filipinos who revert to killing others nationalities or their own kind.

It appears your government also shares your views when not so long ago a filipino turned on her employers THREE children, slashing the throat of the sleeping 6 yr old boy, then multipully stabbing the 11 yr old brother as he fled down the stairs and then stabbing the 17 yr old sister while in the shower [google the incedent folks] and your government plead with the kuwiati government to pardon her! the very same 'good news' reasoning you are selling here.

Have you noticed that hardly ever do Qataris murder one another, or Gulf nationals or muslims for that matter, because taking a life is an atrocious crime one is accountable in Gods eyes. To most of us anothers life is not yours to take.

Yet you all would rather than seek your embassys help or break up with your girlfriends or friends, you opt to simply murder?

Its no surprise then that you want such henious crimes pardoned. I cringe in disgust at the very suggestion!

The 'poor' murderers in prision should consider themselves lucky to get off at 5 years!!!!!

In the usa or ksa they would face captiol punishment.

Someone from a Filipino org told me that depending on the case, the family or friends can pay a certain amount to bring the person out of jail. Only, he cannot work here anymore and will go straight to the airport for deportation once all the necessary requirements (clearance/formal report and records) are duly accomplished.

Again, this depends on the case. If it is something major like murder, I don't think this option could be applied.

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post this in the QL FILEX group so that more kabayan will be aware of it. Click "groups" in the menu above and look for Filipino Expatriates group in the list.

Someone shared a similar story already, perhaps you can take some lesson from his ordeal as well.

Maybe you can disclose this matter to the concerned people at the Philippine embassy,I appreciate your concern to your fellow "Kabayan" but it's not our business to interact with the local authorities that is the reason why we have our embassy here.