4500 Riyadh for Sales Executive Post

JP ATIENZA
By JP ATIENZA

I received a job offer from Darwish Trading for a Sales Executive post thru a local agency here in the Philippines.

In line with this, I would like to inquire regarding the stability of this company.

Second,if there's a possibility I can directly contact them, if they can shoulder my 1 month placement fee in the agency.

Lastly, since I am working for SAN MIGUEL CORP., NUMBER ONE COMPANY HERE IN THE PHILIPPINES, IS 4500 RIYADH REASONABLE THOUGH IT INCLUDES FREE HOUSING AND TRANSPO?

LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS

By joshtimjul• 29 Jun 2009 13:46
joshtimjul

'Lam mo JP lahat naman ng employer o companies dito sa Qatar when they are hiring locally or international they will settle on the minimum side of the offered salary package (because they want to maximize their NET). I'm doing business development job to various contracting & trading companies here and I earn part of my living from the percentage of the job I get. Darwish Trading (Iranian Qatari Ownwer)has been one of the few private entities here in Qatar na malaki ang financial capability. Tip ko sa'yo kung meron ka nang offer letter galing sa kanila, try to negotiate further. Tell them that the scale they're offering is fine but not sufficient enough to support your family. Sigurado tatanungin ka nila, and then settle to a figure favorable sa'yo and sa kumpanyang pupuntahan mo rito. 'Wag kang pipirma sa offer letter kung napipilitan ka lang, kailangan masaya ka sa scale na matatanggap mo!

By lusitano• 29 Jun 2009 13:25
Rating: 4/5
lusitano

JP,

Please be aware that this is not a conventional country and freedom here is restricted by the system:

- You are not allowed to work for another company, only for the one that sponsors you. For you to be able to work for another company, you will have to leave Qatar and reapply 2 years after you left;

- You are not allowed to exit the country without an exit permit authorized by your employer;

There are other issues that you'll feel restricted, but then again, if you come, you will have plenty of time to face them yourself.

By Silvia Abdullah• 29 Jun 2009 13:23
Silvia Abdullah

studying weekend? studying for wht JP??????? in the weekend u take a time to relax...........lo0o0ol thts wht most pl do here

move to other company? if the company will give u a release easily, tht is good. but normally, not all company will give paper of release just like tht. without paper of release, and if u still want to move to other company, u have to b out of the country for 2 yrs and then u can return to doha again. thts all i heard from other friends of mine here

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 13:13
JP ATIENZA

Just in case,will there be POSSIBILITY OF HOPPING TO A NEW COMPANY AFTER 1 YEAR service in the company where I will sign?

How about STUDYING DURING WEEKEND THERE?

MANY THANKS

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 13:07
JP ATIENZA

Everyone thank you so much!

I appreciate the concern and time you took to show me the real picture.

I WILL PRAYHARD FOR THE FINAL ANSWER. THE SALARY IM GOING TO EARN THERE IS NET INCOME.

UNLIKE HERE,I MIGHT EARN ALOT, BUT TAXES SUCKS!

MAYBE, AS THE SAYING GOES! IT COMES WITH THE RISK....BUT STILL I WILL CHECK THE PRO'S AND CON'S.

THANK YOU...THANK YOU...SOME OF YOUR COMMENT REALLY SCARED ME...BUT STILL I FEEL THE GENUINE CARE...THANKS

By Lucky Luciano• 29 Jun 2009 12:03
Rating: 4/5
Lucky Luciano

Came here with a salary of QR 5000 a month almost 5 years ago. Now getting QR 30,000 a month. Smart & Hard woring combo paid devidents. Don't loose your chances. take it when you are young.

BTW we have business transactions with the Darwish to buy their elevators.

By LAMBORJEEPNEY• 29 Jun 2009 12:01
LAMBORJEEPNEY

You're with a very stable co. already in the Phil.

"katas ng qatar"

By anonymous• 29 Jun 2009 11:45
anonymous

language guidelines.

But as you said, our "kabayan" can try it for a year or two. He is still young and can manage to survive in two years. Thre will always period of adjustment and that will be the greatest challenge for him. But if he is a determined person, he will survive!

"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"

By huff2u• 29 Jun 2009 11:29
Rating: 4/5
huff2u

kabayan, 4500 w/ free housing and transpo is pede na.. meron nga ako mga kakilala dito mas mababa pa jan pero survive pa rin at may savings.

pilipino ako at alam ko kung hanggang saan natin kaya magtiis para lang sa pamilya.. kung simple life style ka lang at hindi maluho sa buhay kaya mong maka save ng 3500QR (43th pesos) a month.. that is 1000QR para sa food & etc.. kung iyung 43th a month eh kaya mong kitain sa pinas eh wag ka nlng umalis mahirap ang malayo sa mga mahal mo sa buhay..

kung maluho ka naman eh wala kang maiipon sa 3500QR..

By Silvia Abdullah• 29 Jun 2009 11:24
Silvia Abdullah

i dont want to point out the mysery here, just to tell u some facts tht u need to know.

good luck..........when u feel like to come .........we r welcoming u to come to doha. and hope u gona like doha.

By thalib01• 29 Jun 2009 11:22
thalib01

i think you should go for it.. you are still young and a long way to go.

when everything including transport is given ,, then you should give it a try. darwish is a reputed company here.

rest is as they say "listen to your heart"

good luck

By cdsamp08• 29 Jun 2009 11:09
Rating: 5/5
cdsamp08

Well, for me it depends on your lifestyle. If you are an out-going happy go lucky person, the amount would not be sufficient. But if not, this is enough for you. if the company will be shouldering your accommodation and transport expenses, the full 4500 will be budgeted only on your personal expenses such as food and other basic necessities..for a single male 500-800 budget per month for food is quite okay. the rest you can divide it for your family and for your personal savings. darwish is one of the stable companies here but they don't give NOC's (No objection certificates) this is required if you want to sponsor your family to come here(on a visit visa only, the other's already specified that you cant sponsor your family for a resident status since there is a specific salary requirement)

just compare between your current salary and the salary that you would be getting here. think if you could earn the same when you stay there or if you go here. think as well of the current economic status, is it better there than here or is it the other way around.

hope my answer helps you in your decision.

By Silvia Abdullah• 29 Jun 2009 10:42
Silvia Abdullah

we all here care about u as a human and a person.

if i used a harsh word it will sound like this, we dont want ur company sent u back home with mental problem from being exploit here or send back the news to ur family tht u died here cos suicide attempt tht MAYBE or MIGHT u will do it soon.

am workin in hospital and theres alot of case of ppl attempt suicide mission cos of distress with the situation here and the financial problem. and i dont want u to b one of them.

as u said u r 24 and u still young, y u have to exchange ur good life there only in exchange for a money tht not even promising for u and ur family here + no happiness u will get.

i know if back to financial issues, i cant argue with tht. but for ur own happiness, just b happy with whtever u have now, and if the company wants to pay more or u get a good job with better salary than that, then u can pursue tht glory thing tht u seek

so if u still insist to come here is tottally up to u.

By lusitano• 29 Jun 2009 10:26
lusitano

JP,

I guess you can only understand my warnings once you have lived through them.

good luck and all the best.

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 10:16
JP ATIENZA

THANK YOU GUYS....

I JUST FEEL THAT WHEN I GO THERE I CAN SAVE...ALL I WANT IS TO HELP MY FAMILY AND I THOUGHT BEING THERE WILL BE MY SAVING GLORY.

BEING A YOUNG OFFICER HERE, GIVES ME ALOT OF CONVINIENCE, FLEXIBILITY OF TIME ETC. BUT IM WILLING TO SACRIFICE IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT THAT'S WHY I NEED TO FIND OUT MORE

ABOUT DARWISH TRADING- AIR CONDITION TEAM

By lusitano• 29 Jun 2009 10:08
lusitano

Silvia,

I agree with you and on top of that there is an enormous price to pay by coming here without the family. The emotional distress has an enormous negative impact on the individual and his family.

Nobody ever warns newcomers of that and nobody measures how much harm the situation causes to expats!

For that and for the avoidance of being abused (as so many others) and considering that he works in avery good company back home, I would advice JP to stay where he is.

By Silvia Abdullah• 29 Jun 2009 09:56
Rating: 5/5
Silvia Abdullah

if they provide housing and transport tht is good. just make sure THAT will b available when u come.

am working also and lived with my parents, borrow car from my dad (as i like of course heheheh), foods and laundry still together with them and with Qr. 4500 salary is not enough. specially with the financial crisis now. u will spend more for little things here. u cant even saving money and send it to ur family in phillipines.

so i suggest just to RETHINK again or better dont come here at all. am afraid u will regret it.

about commision thing, dont hopping too much from that. if they over u Qr. 6,000 then at least u can manage to saving.

By lusitano• 29 Jun 2009 09:55
Rating: 4/5
lusitano

JP,

The salary is low for Doha.

Although it might look like a good deal, from a Manila's based person point of view. In reality it is not that good, considering the cost of living here and what you will have to suffer here!

Be careful with the additional verbal promises. Do not believe in anybody until you have those in written and officially signed.

There are a lot of abuses here!

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 09:45
JP ATIENZA

my background here is Sales & Marketing, I am a product specialist here in the Philippines.

It was mentioned to me that I will get a sales commission .05-.075% of my monthly sales which will happen after my 6months.

He also placed there that I WILL NEED TECHNICAL TRAINING SINCE I MY BACKGROUND HERE IS CONSUMER GOODS AND PACKAGING.

THE LEBANESE WHO INTERVEWED ME STIPULATED THAT I WILL HAVE MY OWN CAR AND THE TRANSPO AND HOUSING IS PROVIDED.

IM JUST 24 YEARS OLD AND FIRST TIME TO GO ABROAD

THANK YOU

By atif242• 29 Jun 2009 09:35
Rating: 4/5
atif242

I know that when the word EXECUTIVE comes with your position, then HIGH SALARY is expected. I don't know any details about your JOB DESCRIPTION, QUALIFICATION, Past experience etc

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Atleast, they should have offered you QAR.6000 or more

By lusitano• 29 Jun 2009 09:34
Rating: 4/5
lusitano

JP,

If you have a decent job in the Philippines, don't come here and allow other nationalities to exploit you.

The offered salary is too low, for the sacrifice of living here and away from your loved ones.

Here, people are often cheated and they don't get what they are told, including scope of work!

Please consider carefully before you regret the move!

I suggest you talk to someone from your country that is already living here, to have a better insight of what you will be exposed to!

By atif242• 29 Jun 2009 09:33
Rating: 2/5
atif242

hmmm, well if ur gettign commission then that's good. But anyhow, do remember you cannot bring your family with this salary.

.

As u said, CORPORATE ACCOUNTS for their A/C, is it BACK OFFICE JOB or what???

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Anyhow, I have told you the family fact which is extremely important for a married or would be married guy. So keep this think in mind b4 coming to Qatar

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Rest all depends on YOUR LIFE STYLE.

By Oryx• 29 Jun 2009 09:30
Oryx

it depends what you are earning now.....but i think 4,5000 is really low

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 09:29
JP ATIENZA

PLEASE EXPOUND

By JP ATIENZA• 29 Jun 2009 09:26
JP ATIENZA

I am just 24 years old. The employer who interviewed me describe the job as followa;

Will handle corporate accounts for their AIR Condition requirements.

Based on this work load, do you think QAR4500 is reasonable? He mentioned that after 6 months, based on my performance and evaluation THERES A POSSIBLITY OF GETTIN .5-.75% COMMISSION.

By atif242• 29 Jun 2009 09:18
Rating: 5/5
atif242

You cannot apply for FAMILY VISA of your wife & kids. Salary must be atleast QAR7700

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Anyhow, I'm surprised to know that Executive post is having such a low salary.

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Dear, generally philipinies are getting low salary for the same post offered to other nationalities

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Good luck as DARWISH is a good company but not satisfied with the salary as compared to post

By anonymous• 29 Jun 2009 09:17
anonymous

ON UR EXPENSES!

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