Stranger in my bed

i agree with you, can i have your numberso we can be friends?

I am a Qatari and can confirm that the two parties, Pride to be and Groom to be, have the right, legaly and religously, to see each other before marriage, in the presence of members of their families. They should be able to ask each other all they want before and documents are signed.Qatar's culutre is different than other cultures. the same goes for Chineese, Japaneese, Indian, pakistani or other cultures around the world. However things are changing even in Qatar, as boys are getting more information from various sources and girls as well, we definately can see personal freedom limits being stretched wide open.

Before we say something about other people, are they happy or not, are they having good sex or not, we should know them very well. But we can't know them, because we don't live with them, even they are our close friends.

If to see all in simple way. these two people met and had 7 month till marriage. They had enough time to talk, and to know each other a little, even always around were other people. And if I understood good they liked each, they accepted each other and wanted to marry. So it means, they already were not strangers. If they didn't try to talk all these 7 month, it is already problem not about culture, but about these people.

Why people always think only about women? I mean, why do you think this way can be bad only for women? What about men? Do you think men don't have feelings and don't want to be in love? So maybe he was raped that night? Maybe he didn't want and still doesn't want to have sex with her, but he must to do this?

I can't judge other culture, and not always things are so bad. Do you think to be absolutely open and free is ok?

I am from small country, we 50 years were in Soviet Union and already 20 years are free. Yes, now we are free in all meanings. But do you really think it is the best way? Do you want to know facts? More than 65% of marriages finish with divorce after some years. People are lazy to care about each other, to solve problems. When is something wrong, they go to another person.

Here even a lot of people don't marry. They live together, if something wrong they separate. So a lot of kids are growing only with one of parents, because very often partner of mom is not his father.

Here are a lot of women who alone are growing kids and fathers don't care about it. Women always wanted to be in same level with men and to have same rights. Yes, they have. So now women don't have time to care about themselves, because they should work, care about kids, about house, and nobody is helping to her. Because now men are telling - you all wanted this.

Here to meet someone in nightclub, to get drunk and to have sex in same night is normal. Nobody cares of this. But it is really normal to sleep with everyone?

People from Europe very often think Muslim women don't have rights. But I think they have even more rights than European women. Muslim women never will be alone, because man must take care about her and about family. Believe me, it is much more important than to have totally freedom.

And Muslims's women don't talk as much about their bad life as foreigners talk. Not for a reason they are afraid to talk. They really don't think it is so bad. They really have good life and a lot of times better than European women have.

Family is the main institution in every culture and every country. Family is the first place for child. So I think, rules sometimes really are better than love.

Very impressive

did you ever try to get the stories of those who first met before marriage in order to know each other well, then they got married because they believed they can live 1000 years together and then got divorced :-D

the only thing constant is change,, people make these rules and barbaric laws for their personal interest! most People are blind and show the animal charecteristic of imitating the majority,, The Reason for human awakening is CHange !

I agree wit u super woman , best wishes !

Freedom of speach is a human Right!

Peace!

Fools are not born as fools... they are becos they deserve -- like you super...

a fool will never admit the fact

I just thought i would point out that your picture is Wonderwoman not Superwoman dude!!

while I cannot judge by the standards of my own culture, I still don't understand why "Marriage" is treated this way on some culture.

Ok love at first sight may be true, but it should not start and end there and just get married. A relationship should be given reasonable amount of time.

the story looks like A "made up"... A) In Islam strange men and women cant be friends! B) she has been seeing him for several months? C) didn't u say she was excited which says she made the right decision! D) if Qatar looses this beautiful tradition then I'm sorry to say but there wont be any difference in western countries and QATAR... E) PLEASE LEAVE QATAR YOU DONT BELONG THEIR!

the chemist i agree with you 100%

greetings all...

...... i am getting sick to the stomach with this person claiming herself to be a local and doesn't respect the culture and the rich traditions of her people, if you desire change then u know where to go and that is where you need to be and probably choose whatever u want, dress however u want, go with whoever u want, hit any club you want and get any disease or other malise u want,

i think ur fake, and if ur fo real, then ur minds twisted sis......the situation isnt as bad as u portray, and i ve been here long enough to know.....

a brothers advice, i ask u to seek guidance and chill out....!!

the culture and traditions here are more worthy than ur whimsical crticisms,

get a life!

i can feel your pain while reading this,, and the pain of your friend too, plus the pain of those married traditionally. Yeah its too bad you can't be friend before you get married. it's the same situation for us, we can't be friends with arabs or else police might think about different things.. well as they say, you cant have the best of both world's you may enjoy the wealth of your country, but not the freedom to do whatever you may want to.

yeah what's better than having breakfast with someone and ask her.. hmm so what was your name? :)

LOL someone was searching for in the bed threads I think :))

It's always fun to have stranger in the bed as long as she leaves in the morning ;o)

wtf dude??? the last post on this thread was in Feb... get real!!!

first of all nice heading to this track...........

seriously no one would like a total stranger on their bed........Some laws need to change.......Girls in Qatar should be given equal rights like the men........

first of all nice heading to this track...........

seriously no one would like a total stranger on their bed........Some laws need to change.......Girls in Qatar should be given equal rights like the men........

''HOKA HEY!!!''

pagan huahauahuahauahauahauahauahua anyway, there are girls forced into marriage eveywhere in the world, superwoman is right, they only meet their husband on the marriage bed, and that is a shock that you must not laugh at.

maybe superwoman doesn't know what forcing a girl into marriage is haram, and that she must be asked 3 times if she wants to go ahead.

i would rather die that see my daughter married to a guy she can't get to know. phone calls are not enough. having dinner or go shopping together, i don't see what is wrong with that!!!

Salad 100% agree with u!

I agree with those who said that your friend had a plenty of time to get to know her fiance before the actual marriage, it's called the engagement phase "khotooba" and 7 months are more than enough for them to decide whether they're good for each other or not. But the question is: is your friend unhappily married?

As for the divorce rate, just for your information, people who getting married after a long relationship end up getting divorced more than those of arranged marriage. That is because they have high expectations but they somewhat get disappointed by their partner

And speaking of feeling like raped, this feeling occurs to almost every girl even those who got married to guys they love for ten years. Every girl I know who got married told me about that feeling, and guess what most of them fell in love before marriage.. it's normal to be scared

So if you may please stop making assumptions about things you are not familiar with, love before marriage is not the key for a happily ever after ending for all people, because most people are bad when it comes to making choices

yes its true that you would know each other before you got married its very dif.to women...coz im experience like the situation of aisha...until now i suffer....

SuperQatariwomen

I just find out who you are ... ha ha !!

your post are all good=)

Cheers.. i read it all.

Elameno,

Your comment screams wisdom... not!

What is this, dividing the world between east and west, good and bad, black and white?

grow up, open your mind and one day you might realize the immense diversity that surrounds you at all levels every where you are, no matter race, color, religion, gender or whatever partition you may want add...

Avoid growing up within tiny retrograde narrow minded boxes, it will only stop you seeing the world!

u are right.

we should know our life partner beore we marrry them

+| Jokk3R |+

So superwomen wants to have boyfriend/girlfriend system in Qatar ... if 7 was not enough what she want ....have a baby first !!

The current system has worked for thousands of years fine hasn't it? If her mother and father didn't think that it worked for them, would they have gone through the trouble of arranging a marriage for their daughter? Look at the current system the rest of the world has...divorce is rampant and marriage certificates are on a renewal basis in some parts of the world. Nothing is sacred anymore in the West. I applaud those who live in the Middle East for at least staying loyal to their own culture.

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many girls s married to man who failled in love even that there marriage was unsuccessful....

What do u mean by stranger the marriage was after 7 months , how long time u need to not become a stranger , and if u meet somebody at the street or at works or at club he is a stranger and after u know him he become not stranger same things I think u r mixed up and u do not like anything’s and please till us the right way to get married , and i will ask honestly what happened to your friend is she still married or divorced . and all girls scare from this night because it changed her life and leave there family and go to another life even if she loved him before married, and i know some girls love the man very will and go out with him then after married she found out that he is go with both . and the engagement time or girl friend and boyfriend is fake everybody show the best what they have . but when they stay in the same home and sharing the same room then start the problems .and depend in there manner how to solve it.

who said they cant

me frind got marred from a girl who worked with him in qb and they were frinds for 2 years

i mean reall frinds not in a bad way

suberwoman i know that u can chose to say no for a fixed marrige

and to tell u the troth most of people now they make milkah almost a year before the wedding date

so i guess that u can know every thing about hem during this year dont think that a guy can fake that long

to tell u the troth lots of the guys i know they have girl frinds and when i ask them if they are planning to marry them they say NO cause they had what they want from them even if they havent had 6 but shey taled to hem and he well keep wondering well shey do the same with another guy after the marrige

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studying the percentage of divorce and separated husband in wife is getting higher here in qatar according to their own survey base on the cases filed in their court.

but i think this is not the culture or the way of thier choosing of spouse or husband. as you can see the reason, it is "the women’s exposure to the changing world and their growing self-reliant nature are the prime reasons for this social problem.”

even in other countries like america, philippines etc. there are lots of separation and divorces but no one said that because of the culture, the religion etc. is the reason why they are more incline to divorce.

my observation is, people are now getting unsatiable, incontentment and more adventurous. the main reason also is the effect of globalization where you can see other culture and way of life. and this way of life is being injected through media around the world.

not the religion or culture, because if they really know their religion and culture these cases of divorces is less, 100%.

Probably not the wisest thing putting up ur friends name and dowry up on the net for the world to see.....

There was a thread I recalled about growing number of deffects in relation to these arranged marriages.

So why can't a Qatari man marry outside of his culture to the best, hottest, kindest and smartest partner for him that he finds perfect in every way. Same goes for women in this scenario.

Some folks replace their partners when they have outlasted their beauty or youth to some younger new specimen...but if it was originaly a relationship built with love, these shouldn't happen as much.

ex. "notebook" the movie of two couples.

Way to go superwoman, be free. You only have 1 life until time gets the better of you...and then, game over, be healthy about it.

ths story was so sad... wish that every women in these world has free to choose to whom they wanted to be with... its one of the reason there's a large number of divorce couple in arab countries.

DON'T LET FANTASY ROB YOU OF YOUR REAL LIFE BEAUTY

I am Qatari And i dont agree with this type of marriag, when i married my wife i was understanding, but the problem is either the guy or the girl you would never know how he or she thinks..... thats why i am looking for a nother life but this time i am choosing by my self

thank god i come from a place where freedom is spoon fed to individuals on a daily basis!

I wonder, do they love their spouses and husbands after getting married like that? I was analyzing this situation and thinking, maybe they began to love each other after some time passed and they got used to each other and when they have children? Whatever, i hope, they treat each other good.

you got me there... what I meant that is that the number of arranged marriages are coming down (considering women are more self-reliant and independent) and divorces are going up...

Qatari women’s exposure to the changing world and their growing self-reliant nature are the prime reasons for this social problem.”

you see superwoman? this is the main cause of high rate divorce. "women's exposure to the changing world". nothing else...it disprove your claim... why post a non supportive evidence to your claim.

meaning lots of qatari women have the courage and the freedom to choose, to reject and to decide for themselves, not what you are trying to say here, that they are helpless from the decision of their father, mother, brother and close relatives....tsk,tsk,tsk,tsk...

wake up man, you are contradicting yourself everytime....

your post actually conflicts your own comment...

"However, Moza Al Malki, a prominent Qatari psychologist, said: “Qatari women’s exposure to the changing world and their growing self-reliant nature are the prime reasons for this social problem.”"

http://www.pen.com.qa/news/qatar/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=13763

could u relate?

"Superwoman to the rescue"

boston you missed her first post where she said she is now more than thirty, and now you said she is 27, who is telling the truth here. i guess you are partners in crime here. tsk.tsk.tsk.

the more you try the more you exposed your stupidity....you cannot win the day....if i were you just leave the qatari...much better...

by your post you are trying to project that qatari is more greedy of material aspect, not the feelings or the stability of unionship.

most of them are well off then why take a partner which they dont like? if they are well off then what they should do is find a guy/gal which they like. finding means choosing since there are lot of guys who propose to a lady who wants to marry.the one who choose of course should be the girl, not the relatives...

tsk... tsk...

Superwoman.. In another thread you said that you drink occasionaly! You manage to drink but you cannot manage to choose whom to marry..I find that contradictory..

I know many couples who refused arranged marriages and managed to have it their way! Some got married in the 1970s!

my parents also had an arranged marriage they aren't muslims,but christians,they had lived a harmonious llife together,because getting married isn't just about,u marry because you love the person,some people date go for bed outside marriage for years,but ends up separating,because they don't understand the real meaning of commitment,i believe that when an arab man choose to marry,wether to a total stranger,they are ready for that thing called COMMITMENT,and thay will make things work out no matter what to make their lives happy and comfortable for their family and that includes their wife!

"for you my love i'll be forever faithful"

the case you have illustrated IS a problem... agree with you... but the girl still has the right to say NO...

Thanks, PITSTOP.

You tell her to pray 'Istikhara' and wait. If it is a good marriage, she will feel good about it and approve it for herself. If she is against it, totally, she can tell them that she isn't ready for marriage and it isn't her time yet. She should disregard her brothers comments, because in the future they will not be there when she cries for help. The father will get mad, upset - who cares, he'll get over it.

And 27 isn't old!

And this is real, not fiction: she is a Qatari girl, 27 years old. Her family is well off. They tell her, 'You're getting old, we found a husband for you.'

He is twice her age, looking for a second wife, has 7 children with the first and wants even more from the second. He is willing to pay for a house and the cost of living. Her older brother says to her, 'If you marry somebody else I will not come to your wedding and not to the birth of your child.' The younger brother says, 'Do what the parents say, it's good for you.' She says, 'I want to marry someone I know and love. I don't need his money, I have my job. I am afraid they will kill me if I refuse.'

I don't know what to tell her.

i told you guys, this superwoman contradicts herself/himself most in his/her post. she/he said the guardian has the power to approved and disapprove the marriage, then how she refuse to the guys, 2 or 3.

the truth is, parents must know and must ask their son or daugther wethere they love the guy/gal or not. if i am a father why i suppose to marry my daugther to a stranger, this is rediculous. i dont think any sane person will do this to their son or daughter.

i think superwoman really dont know the true traditions of arabs when selecting the husband to be to his daughter.

usually they are choosing the son/daughter of their friends, close to their areas.

i guess this superwoman is a guy, an expat, he cannot penetrate the inner society of qatari and just only making assumption to all the issues.

but he gain popularity here.

just to collect alms. Even in Qatar this trick has worked

i know one Office Assistant who has collect QAR 5000 during Ramadan

ROFL versi @ translation.

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

You said that you have already refused couple of guys. This means that your parents did not force you to get married to anybody.

Besides, If you have a man who you love, why doesn't he visit your family with his parents and ask for your hand? They might refuse him if there is a valid reason. For example, they will ask about him and find that he is a drug addict, or alcoholist...etc. In that case, I do understand the reason why your parents would refuse him.

Anyway, I bet on that your parents will accept anybody now since you are 35 already. I am sure they lost hope and would let you go to anybody as far as it is your decision. So ask your lover to visit your family and ask for your hand.

If they still refuse yout lover for some reason,then I have a suggession for you if you are a Qatari. Go to any other country, and marry your lover. Lets see if your marriage would work out or not:)

imnat... good catch... not a double post, shavathil kuthanda karudhi

translation : corpse don't poke consider

snessy... nice one :-)

At least you can blame your parents if your marriage doesn't work out. I'll only have myself to blame, LOL :-)

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

hope he took the effort of taking the name... and didnt turn out to be a strangler in his bed

...listen to the sound of silence....

Remember the last Christmas party and the "stranger" you ended up with ?

much better :(

...listen to the sound of silence....

marie.. a stranger strangler in my bed.. how does that sound?..:)

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

lol Azi..:) i guess it is bak bak bak then..

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

im starting to read Strangler in my bed rather than stranger :(

...listen to the sound of silence....

yours is a white leghorne...lmao

I see eggs too.lol

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

her situation is similar to Beggars in Ramadan where non muslims wear cap and plead I am muslim I am muslim

run fast and help yourself then wasting time to post about it... being wonder-woman no one gonna run helping you.. you yourself has to do the wonders..

Look at her avatar. She got only 4 EGGS left.. Poor her!

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

Azi..its cluck cluck like a hen..:)

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

alkhor living, not all indian women are happy about their culture...and i guess not all of your countrymen are happy about yours too...but must be strictly followed, no matter what!

The jokes that are rampant in QL are made to let off some steams, hence, making life bearable

Loosen up your tie :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

should I go...bak-bak-bak-bak-bak(like a hen)???

;P

Was that really a double post? ;-P

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

"i cant legally marry myself to him untill am 30

thanks for giving my the choice after i have only few good eggs in me to go and have kids...."

A few eggs in you? Are you a hen? LOL -- sorry I couldn't resist.

So women need permission to drive a car, get a job, go on holiday, but it surprises certain people that they need permission from a guardian to marry a man of their choice??? Wow.

double post

Yes, some arranged marriages can seem to forced marriages, especially where you are not given the choice of saying yes or no.

However, to say that arranged marriages are totally wrong would be incorrect also. The notion behind the arranged marriage is that your family arrange a marriage to a person they feel is best suited to you and can provide you with a happy life.

The sad reality is that BOTH arranged and love marriages are a lottery. There is no guarantee that either will succeed.

I wish you well with your life and hope that you achieve all you want.

Superwoman claims that she cannot legally marry a man of her choice without her guardian's consent until she is 30...

I don't know if that is true... but it doesn't sound like a fair practice...

Superwoman said... "if i love somebody and my parents dont agree... i cant legally marry myself to him untill am 30

thanks for giving my the choice after i have only few good eggs in me to go and have kids...."

Although... most people would disagree with the fact that 30 is too old to be married... 35 is still 'young' in most cultures...

Ok Superwoman. Let me ask you this how much do you want to know about a the person you would consider marrying? You want to talk to him? You want to go out with him?

But believe me Superwoman you will never know someone just by meeting them or speaking to them, until you live with them.

As a muslim and Qatari women I guess that is not possible. And even after living with some one you might end up realising that it was not the right choice.

So please give an insight what do you or what is your meaning of getting to know your future husband.

Meeting someone a few times will make you love someone?

Your views please dear, Ya okhty أختي

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

just tracked some of your posts as it sounds interesting only on bases to debate or argue... nothing more... coz reality is, you ignore or don't take it... you still live and wait till you die...

cheers.

I'm happier now.

Now they have editors :) good

...listen to the sound of silence....

its eaither your gardian approve your marriage or you marry somebody your gardian approve of just because you dont want to be an old lady before you have the right to choose

"Superwoman to the rescue"

to all the people who are saying... so what, you can get to know each other after marriage... are you freaking serious....

i would rather know my life partner before i am stuck wiht him for life thank you....

i just feel sad for the girls who dont have to choice to marry the one they love,,,, because the cant legally get married without the female gardian permission....

so basically its not her choice, its her gardian choice ...

"Superwoman to the rescue"

ARE YOU SLOW OR WHAT...who said anything about sleep with every guy....?

u must be slow to interpret getting to know each other as sleeping with each other.. god bless you

"Superwoman to the rescue"

I agree parents should be educated to respect their children's feelings for marriage. But it is the children who are educating their parents in countries like india by insisting on their love somehow to convince them. They have a role to play as well. Its not always parents' mistake. In some situations you cann't expect parents to sit waiting till their kid finds love. Hence it is setting up of environment conducive to love marriages..

sigh* arranged marriages have always been a debatable subject. arranged marraiges, are forced marriages in almost all cases. girl is told over and over again, that his family is good, rich, blah blah blah.

I don't agree with cheating either, and I'm not suggesting anyone should.

I'm just saying it's hardly surprising when you force two people to get married that they may not love/respect/honor/obey one another. And many guys already have a girlfriend when they get married to another woman. How can you expect them to stop seeing their past lovers just because they are getting married?

If marriage isn't taken seriously by the parents (but instead seen as a transaction, or a convenient union of two families) then don't expect the children to take it seriously either.

Fubar, you have a point but I don't agree with cheating on wifes, rather compromising with life.

Her concern is that she doesn't have the envoronment set to love before marriage, as simple as that if one wants to understand. Well who can provide that? Only those who want it..

if she's pretty and sexy its ok wow i like it

Thank you and Best wishes

**Dont get discourage when things go beyond your imagination because the greatest glory in life is not falling but rising everytime you fall. Life is what you make it**

too controlling?

Like UkEngQatar said..."forced---or shotgun marriage" is VERY DIFFERENT from "arranged marriage."

Since you are still SINGLE and as you said, you rejected 3 offers of marriages coz you don't like them, i guess you have no problem in that marriage aspect as You are old enough to decide for yourself.

Fubar, Good and valid Point. Then the above cases may be referred to as stealth forced marriages? One has to judge what is more important being disrespectful to your parents by not explaining to them they you do not want to marry so and so, or being dishonest to yourself and your future partner, which may lead to being unfaithful to your partner.

The question is that what do these people respect more the law of religion where one has the right to choose or the law of the clan and appeasing the tribe/clans to maintain these traditions?

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

Superwoman.. I think that are you getting it wrong.. There is a difference bertween Arrange marriage and Forced Marriage, Let me give you an example.

If your parents told you to marry so and so from so and so tribe irrespect of your consent or you was married off to settle off a debt or other forced arrangement, than that is Foced Marriage.

Arrange Marriage is that the two people get introduced to each other via a third party and the two people have the choice to decide if they want to marry or not marry to this person.

So please get the facts right and understand the difference between the two. You don't have to sleep with every Tom, dick and Mo before you decide whom you want to marry?

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

UK, the problem is that 'arranged' marriage still implies free will on the part of the bride and groom - ie they have the freedom to say no if they don't wish to marry. I have Qatari friends who didn't want to marry their wives, but didn't want to disrespect their father by saying 'no'. So they went ahead and married her anyway. Most are still married, but perhaps 1 in 3 just divorced later (within a year of marriage). That way they can still say they followed their father's wishes. The ones who didn't divorce mostly just cheat on their wives to stay sane in their loveless marriage. I can only imagine what the wife is doing while all this is going on.

i just dont like the fact that the parents have complete control over your life when your a kid and then they get to choose who you marry...

if i love somebody and my parents dont agree... i cant legally marry myself to him untill am 30

thanks for giving my the choice after i have only few good eggs in me to go and have kids....

"Superwoman to the rescue"

it is so sad that you people cant understand that somehow arranged marriages are like forced marriages... so i am a girl that wants to get married... am waiting for a marriage to be arranged for me... maybe 2 or 3 guys did propose but i really didnt like them.. now am 35 years old and i am single..... why...? because i dont have the right to choose my life partner....some how am forced to marry anybody who proposes to me otherwise i will die alone...

"Superwoman to the rescue"

azilana7037 said:

And again, other posters do inject their sense of humour to lessen the tension. Sandeep do tells the truth as in India and in some part of China, the bride pays the dowry.

I wish sometimes that my wife gets stranded in Alcatraz, unfortunatly she is Filipina well educated and a very strong diver/swimmer. She did paid the dowry not me....

if you haven't noticed it yet...it was "superwoman" (who openly/adamantly delcares SHE'S A QATARI) who started this topic and other previous topics pertaining to other Qatari customs and beliefs.

And again, other posters do inject their sense of humour to lessen the tension. Sandeep do tells the truth as in India and in some part of China, the bride pays the dowry.

My (mother's) grandfather's relatives (in Macao) still practice this marriage tradition.

so, alkhor living, though we do understand that you are hurt by all this hullabaloos BUT do try to read and understand all posts before MAKING CONCLUSION that WE ARE MAKING FUN of your traditions...THANK YOU.

I have a classmate back in college (sometime 1987) whose family is considered of royalty in their clan. She's beautiful, intelligent and she was arranged to be married after graduating. The dowry was Php 1,000,000 and some properties.

When I went home for a vacation 2006, I saw her again and she's still happily married to the guy. She mentioned that her dowry was used to put up her own restaurant business and of course barter trading business. Her husband is a successful businessman in the fishing industry.

In the case of returning (I wouldn't use the qword "repay") the dowry BEFORE the marriage...of course, the bride SHOULD RETURN the dowry...it's ethically correct to do so.

ecco-savvy, i heard her. in fact you are listening to her too and there are so many people out there hearing her, those people who are suffering silently but no courage to speak up.

as a matter of fact eco-savvy you are afraid of where and what would be the result of this thread today and in the future.

if she is a pagan, then who or what are you? if you are enlightened, why labeled her that way?

progress

When I got married, I wasn't sure, If I was making the right decision. 5 years later, I conclude is just another way to be in Devils Island alone with my Filipina wife.

Still married to that trident poking woman after all.

Each one of us has our own way of getting married. It varies from country to country with its culture and tradition. In the early days of my granny, infact they have to bring back one enemy's head from battle to prove to the women that he is a man who can guarantee future security to his prospective bride. The more heads, the more women would like to marry him. Now isn't this strange. Of course its not in practice today. Not me, not even my avatar. The bottom line is we have to respect each other tradition. cheers!

alkhorliving, thats not a strange way to get married. they are simply part of the indian culture.

Are you talking about my blog or my posts here.. I mean seriously, I was only making fun of my own culture here and in my blog I wasn't making fun of anybody..

As for this topic, I clarified much earlier in one of my rare serious posts that marriage can't automatically become a success on the basis of it being arranged or love.. Both the partners have to work hard to make any marriage a success..

http://skadian-lifeinqatar.blogspot.com/

The topic of ur article seems to make joke a bout our culture and that what i can understand of the topic and of the story.

I like my culture very much and I'm proud of it. Also I like to see other traditions but not the same way u write it as a joke.

I think that the debate on this topic sterile.

Alkhor living I am not making a joke about your culture and tradition but making a joke about my culture and our traditions and believe it or not, if I like it or not, I will get a large sum as dowry from my wife's family.. I come from a community in India which is as conservative as you can imagine...

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Each Culture has it traditions. So in India the women will pay to the man to get married and I find it strange way to get marry. I don't like people to make a joke a bout put tradition I find it really nice and it works with Qatari people.

The Qatari women that u meet might be not really a Qatari I'm not sure but for sure she is not Qatari woman.

So hope so if there is any joke a bout our tradition plz keep it to ur self because I'm proud I'm Qatari and Qatar a modern country and open for other people and it's on of the fastest growing countries.

Our culture and Islam safe us from Aledz and Disease.

Thanks

Gica RAISE MY SALARY THEN!!!!!

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as everyone will agree... " what to do yanni???"

TRADITION...TRADITION...TRADITION.

i can blab on this thread, but i respect their culture. this is ridiculous. are they desperate?

Buy "Made in China" products!

Cheaper....

Sandeep, don't be greedy... And don't forget: YOU have to pay for your wife! Hehehe...you have to work a lot...or sell a kidney...

Ya rein only 100,000 QR.. I am going to ask for around 1 Million QR ;)

Ofcourse since it is in India, I will be asking for around 100 Million Indian Rupees ;)

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Finally you did it after more than 48 hours and changed the thread title.

But what I do not understand is that we get used when the mod modifies something, he/she keeps a note.In this case there is no note.

Another example of double standards.

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100000? unbelievable.

I am going to demand a huge dowry from my wife's family when I get married, that is the only reason I am going to have an arranged marriage anyway ;)

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Fubar you need to understand that a 'dowry' in concept is more of a gift than it is financial security, this concept may have changed with time but that is essentially what a 'dowry' means to Muslims.

However it is advised to reduce the monetary value of a 'dowry' in order to encourage marriage and discourage celibacy.

Times have changed and now more people consider it some sort of financial security for the bride or in other cases most of it is used by the bride to fund her preparations for the wedding.

the only marriages that are wrong are forced marriages.

Plenty of people very happy with an arranged marriage...

i believe the divorce rate is about the same for arranged and love marriages.....

Arranged marriages aren't shameful and neither is it a tradition exclusive to Qatar....

you need to try and separate fact and opinion when writing.

I am not happy with this thread...

fubar returning the dowry just in case the wedding and the consumation never materialized.

i dont think so fubar, im my country philippines there is no divorce but the number of husband and wife who separate is much larger than that anyone can think. and they never pay attention to any laws godly or secular. they even take partners and begot.

if your reason is that they got married without knowing each other or by arrange marriage. the outcome is high rate of divorce i dont agree. the point is they just dont like some attitude of each other or just never agree on many things. even you knew your partner for several years and you make love several times that is not a guarantee. why not ask the percentage of divorce in the US or UK or somewhere. they do a lot before they got married then why they end up in divorce?

the situation of family life on those country are more worse than here, atleast here they have culture which is more beneficial than those who say they have all freedom and advance culture.

it is a common traits that anyone whos culture is different to his own he is trying to criticized it specially if he dislike it. we cannot have one single culture, or must follow what others have. one must be unique to itself. islam never oppose to a certain culture unless it goes beyond or against the tenets of its teaching.

Veris,

I do know of a Qatari couple that divorced prior to the 'wedding' at the wife-to-be's insistence, meaning she paid back the money. But that's not the point. I was asking what is the point of a wife being given a dowry as some sort of security, if she has to repay it to the husband should she ever wish to divorce him. It sounds to me more like the dowry is a fully refundable deposit to be paid by the husband for his new purchase.

And I'm the first to admit that I really don't understand why in any culture a dowry should be paid. That's why I asked the question. Thanks for answering it... anyone......

In any case, something has to be done about the astoundingly high divorce rate amongst Qatari nationals. Apaprently the divorce rate is close to 40%, (the highest in the Arab world) according to a recent survey.

Perhaps if young men and women had more freedom in choosing their partners, the divorce rate wouldn't be so high. Or perhaps the problem is that women here are now too educated to comply with their under-educated husbands, as suggested in this study:

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/printArticle.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=311814&version=1&template_id=57&parent_id=56

The title of this thread is really disturbing me. I am not comfortable with it, what-so-ever.

superwoman needs something she cant explain :)

why you talking about repaying the dowry in case of divorce... are you aware of such a thing happening?

for god sake, please understand this are cultures and traditions.... some good scents to make life interesting....

Marring the person you love and

Loving the person you marry are two intersting concepts..

did u know ur parents before u wr born.... for that sake each n evry person u meet in ur day to day life remains a stranger... if u start thinking in that way ull end up all alone urself in this world....

Live life with a crust of challenge and thrill....

why do we race our cars at enormous speeds... to die with an accident, to kill some innocent person No... its for that thrill...

Yea why not u just for a change ... try marrying a stranger.. and start loving him... ill bet u will enjoy that life... not knowing what each likes.. trying to find out and etc.....

ll not guarantee that all lives like this will succeed.. but what i can guarantee is that all lives like this shall not fail either...

for god sake, please understand this are cultures and traditions.... some good scents to make life interesting....

Marring the person you love and

Loving the person you marry are two intersting concepts..

did u know ur parents before u wr born.... for that sake each n evry person u meet in ur day to day life remains a stranger... if u start thinking in that way ull end up all alone urself in this world....

Live life with a crust of challenge and thrill....

why do we race our cars at enormous speeds... to die with an accident, to kill some innocent person No... its for that thrill...

Yea why not u just for a change ... try marrying a stranger.. and start loving him... ill bet u will enjoy that life... not knowing what each likes.. trying to find out and etc.....

ll not guarantee that all lives like this will succeed.. but what i can guarantee is that all lives like this shall not fail either...

What good is the dowry if it must be repayed should the wife divorce the husband?

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

big swig of alcohol?...I guess TEQUILA would give that good kind of a kick...roflmao

:-D

Give her a big swig of alcohol or let her smoke some weed beforehand..

She'll be a tigeress in bed after that..

A little dramatic. Ofcourse she's nervous. We all are the first time.

is that: "It is paid to the wife and to her only as an honor and a respect given to her. And to show that he has a serious desire to marry her and is not simply entering into the marriage contract without any sense of responsibility and obligation or effort on his part."

So, DOWRY is paid by the bridegroom (or his family) to the bride for the purpose to secure the girl for such happenstances as widowhood or loss of other means to survive or loss of other property.

And why it is considered "shameful"?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it in India (or China) where the bride pays the dowry to the bridegroom?

Honestly...I am yet to meet a QATARI woman who would cheat on her husband.

I think it's how one perceive one's self which makes it shameful. I mean...if one feel that he/she is like a property or a livestock with a price, that's detestful. But if you see the other side, it's the man/bridegroom's way of showing you're far worth all those wealth in his eyes...

Your friend may have had the jitters (of course, it was the first time she'll sleep with a man) but they have all the time to know each other now that they're married.

Have you asked her lately HOW SHE'S FEELING RIGHT NOW?

make sure you dont fool around. In last thread you got around 800+ comments thats because I was not THERE

Last wedding dress I saw was imported from Saudi that was in the month of Nov in Dana Club

They are heavy cos Qatari brides just walk to the stage and sit there, they dont dance like western brides where weight of dress is kept in mind

hahahaha ur so funny u think all Qataries wear huge dresses? its 2010 dumba** girls r more fasionable now !!

and for the part u commented on I don't have to be there are u like STUPID?!

seriously if u dont think I'm not Qatari or a good blogger why the he** do u hang around my threads 24/7 ?

seriously get a life and when someone share a story with u try get the concept not ask him WHERE U THERE?

"Superwoman to the rescue"

Last night she had 2 plates of majboos.. and She was shitt*ng ECO !!

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

ooops you aint Qatari

he is grt blogger btw, last time he conveyed there are 1000 active bloggers in Qatar. He might teach you how to blog

Btw what is the story of sitting in bathroom with wedding dress.

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she sat in her bathroom with her wedding dress on for an hour afraid of the inevitable unquote

Qatari's wedding dresses are heavy, you cant walk properly wearing that dress, bride needs help to walk to the stage did you accompany her in Bathroom?

I hope you have better luck than your friend... I hope your friend's apprehensions give way to serendipitous marital bliss...

very childish!!! but it’s ok maybe my post was a bit provoking but I didn't intend to do it I wrote exactly how I feelو this day will come soon and it really does scare me I don't know why I assumed that u will all agree with me that’s why I didn’t show two sides of the debate!

but thanks for ur opinions’ it really helps !

"Superwoman to the rescue"

just glad someone got it :-)

ROFL versi.. 'Maafi Maloom' That was hilarious !!

"To the illumined man or woman, a clod of dirt, a stone, and gold are the same.” ------- Gita

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

I am not particularly interested to know what you've noticed actually...

..g day.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

I read the title... and I knew it was you Eco... if superwoman had her ways... there would be lot of small 'Ahmed/Abdullah/Mohammed Al Mafi Malooms' running around in Doha soon :-)

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

Centre's in Qatar

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

There is nothing wrong in Arrange marriages. The only evil are the forced marriages!

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

Derek Edward Trotter

dear superwoman i thnik your freind goes to his home..& that is his bed not yours freind's bed..

"War is not fought to determin who is right, only who is left".

britex is speaking sense?

as in good sense about something that does not involve intoxication, under garments or high heels?

I am confused?!?!?

What do we do from here?

The nearest we can classified this is an arranged marriage. Just like the many expected cases of arranged marriage to a closest cousins around the world

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

Arrangd marriages still take place in USA, UK, France, Germany etc. Especially amongst the upper classes..

It is up to you which type you prefer, but don't knock either one.

Superwoman,

I am glad people now know you as you are- an unworthy fool.

you know absolutely NOTHING about cultures others than your own, so please consider not revealing your blooming ignorance to the general public in the future...

Candlestick in some cultures it works, in some it doesn't. Even among individual cultures, in some cases it works and in some isn't. Just because a marriage is love or arrange doesn't assure it's success. In every case you need to work hard to make that marriage successful.

In India we still have a large number of arranged marriages, the culture is surviving for 5000 years and isn't disappearing anytime soon.

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You will be reported NOW

Arranged marriages happen all over the world....Charles and Diana was arranged....they want to keep their own!

Is it right or wrong???

I think Diana was not a virgin the night she married and I think she knew what she was gettin into. This does not mean to say she did not suffer and certainly Charles did with his families choice. No winners there.

Charles needed a virgin from a good family who they 'thought' could cope with the pressure of being in the Royal family....my own mother and father had an arranged marriage....two Catholics from farming families in Dublin! That worked for some odd reason!

Does it work in Muslim/Hindu/Sikh/Christian religions....I don't think it does, most of the time.

WHY???

Somebody talked about rape before...by legal definition that is somebody (having full sexual intercourse without consent). In most cultures, it is expected on the honeymoon night, sex will take place....do any of these women want sex...do they know what is going to happen??? Do the men know about love making or is is just penetration to get 'the job done'.

Is that rape??? Yes it is in most cases.

Has any parent, brother, sister, Aunt, Uncle or any other relative got the right to tell ANYBODY who they have to live the rest of their life with, sleep with, have kids with and make a family with.....NO!

Yes, give your point of view about the person they date....say you love them or hate them, but love, real love is unique to that person.

NOBODY FROM ANY RELIGION, CULTURE, SOCIAL STANDING, has the right to tell ANYBODY who they should marry.

So, arranged marriages are cruel and are wrong.

It would be like for me, telling a Christian they have to be Muslim, or a Muslim having to be Jew.....or a Sikh having to be Budhist...you are asking/ordering a human being/adult to do something they know nothing off.

I ask all of you parents that arrange these marriages, you probably had one too....did you really enjoy sex/living with/family life with a person that was bought.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, at least most men get satisfaction from a prostitute...at least they are not excxpected to spend the rest of their lives with them.

My parents had a long marriage...however....what their parents did not know was this....they knew each other at school and wanted to get married. They engineered it and their parents fell for it! This will happen here soon.

In modern society there is no place for arranged marragies!

Whatever religions/cultures want to still arranges marriages, you wont last long!

info is not available in search engines.

She is discussing about matchmaker here

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she is a marriage arranger that usually has a profile of singe men and women, and gets paid for it

unquote

This is picked up straight from QL

"she was excited, he was handsome and she couldn’t wait to get to know him. They only had few times to meet and get to know each other; it was always in the presence of a member of the family. Long story short, they got married within seven months."

base on your post it is clearly mention that she was excited and cant wait, meaning she has something in her before she met him, and secondly they have time to met, and seven months prior to marriage.

i cant really grasp your point here. there are lot of time to know each other, 7 months is long enough.

and as far as marriage is concern, she has the right to reject or accept the man. this is not true that the parents will sacrifice the happiness of thier son or daughter. you are really not a qatari girl im sure. one thing is sure you hate qatar and the qatari people and you are trying to do anything to discredit them. playing as one of them but the truth is you are not.

you are suggesting that the parents have nothing to do with the feelings of their son or daugther. all i know here in qatar and in other arab muslim country, the parents is more concern about the security and the betterment of their daugther. that is why they are demanding high dowry to make sure that when they start a family they have enough money to spend. it is clearly mention in the sunnah and the hadith that the money belongs to the lady but if she pleases to spend it to both of them then she is doing better.

and for your information, superwoman the amount of dowry or "mahar" is not specific. even a verse of qur'an can be a dowry, or a silver ring, as per prophet muhammad sayings.

you hate qatari culture, but you did not notice the advantage of qatar's culture from others. look at the women in qatar, i never seen any qatari girl borne a child out of wedlock. i never seen a qatari girl being abandone after she got pregnated by the man. i never seen any qatari girl being rape on the street. i never seen a qatari girl being the content of a scandal video. thanks to the goverment and the parents for protecting their women. all of these are present to all the so called advance and civilized culture.

here all possible and available respect to women can be seen. simple example. i was riding a bus and seated in front. all seats are occupied. suddenly a woman ride in, all the male sitting to the chair designated for women stand up and give the chair to the lady. you cannot see this to other country. he will ignore you and say, we both pay why i should stand and offer the sit for you. this is only one example. there are many. count the advantage and it will overcome the grievances.

upon reading all your post and all your criticism against qatar and muslims and islam, i found out that it has no grounds. baseless and irrelevant to the real scenario to what previlege a qatari woman can get here in qatar.

i saw a lot of qatari girl who owns and drive mercidez, cayene and even porche. they own saloon, beauty parlor, bakeshop and more. they are more free than what you are saying. they are even sent to universities abroad.

the only thing that i cant see is the qatari women dress in bikini, tangga and see through which other women westerner do, to prove that they are free to do what they want to.

the more you post, the more you proved that you are not a qatari girl...no logic...most of your statement are contradictory...sorry you cannot get my symphaty.

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I do understand what the commercial was trying to sell but its frame was a traditional Indian matrimonial scene "Shanti meet your husband "

She has never seen him before ...

It is an excellent commercial - it shows us the Indian society with humor and criticism ...

thre is blogger with name Aisha so its easy to take that name while copying she forgot to add "A".

what do you mean by qatari girl and her name is Aish ,its not even an arabic name.

next time try to be Realistic when you write stories

i agree with Eco-savvy....she is not a qatari....

Very sad and bad

Hope this will change one day

when ids are banned superwomen are born, QL is maternity ward

superwoman is discussing issues we have discussed here.

Gica I want to get married in Vegas. I have heard what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas..

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there...at least i can think of scotland since england is out of the question. :(

But first stop is dreamland :)

ciao

...listen to the sound of silence....

I think superwoman's friends problem was that she was thinking of Doha

If only she would've met Britexpat earlier and this wouldn't have happened...

Super women

1- you are a fake what ever you say what ever you pretend you are not what you pretend to be .

2- changing Qatari society through QL posting that's a first haaaaaa..... are you a comedian....?

3- for a women who pretends to be Qatari you are a clueless clutz.. who doesnot know the difference of arranged and forced marriage.....

4-All your pathetic answers only reveal that you are a nob and to coment on your ..... there is no word to describe your pathatic attempt to push your agenda XX

No Marie, you have to think of England, it's just the way it is! But... you can do that "thinking" in Scotland if you prefer ;-)

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

dear me, snessy... :(

i was hoping of scotland and kilts :)

very well, england for now... scotland later, deal?

...listen to the sound of silence....

No marie, it has to be england ;-)

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

What's the big fuzz with arranged marriage? Of course we have to arrange it: papers,priest,restaurant, guests, dress,bachelors party, maid of honor....

I heard about some non-arranged marriages in Las Vegas: fakes Elvis as priests,drunk wannabee couples and drunk witnesses...not very romantic! :)

I thought most of these guys get married to their cousins who are known to them from birth. So why crib?

never heard that one... but it does sound funny :-)

lol...

try paris

or scotland and the never ending hills

...listen to the sound of silence....

There's an apt saying :

"Lie back and think of England"

go with the flow... real dogs... inevitable... not knowing... what you talkin bout?

was it a traumatic experience?...

Did you too sit in the bathroom with your bath-robe on for an hour afraid of the inevitable?

did you have a friend holding your shivering hands, now that you had gone back home with a total stranger. Were you afraid in a day that is supposed to be your happiest day because of some dog?

If it's the "inevitable", then it has to occur whatever precautions you may take..

It's easier to go with the flow and get it over with. You may end up enjoying it...

"Stranger in my bed"...

Believe me, I've woken up with some real dogs without really knowing how they got there...

The problem with some expats they read old books before they come here and then they start judging everything based on what the book said.

Cheerio!!

sandeep, i remember you asked your mom before and she replied that you have the freedom to choose :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

Brit thanks for bringing me back to reality... I will shut up now..

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Well said Tarsiers. Well said!!

What about your parents ? Have you asked their permission yet ?

ok superwoman, let's cut the chit-chat short.. Will you marry me ;)

P.S.- I am really down on my knees right now ;)

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Arranged marriages take place all around the world. Yes, we may not agree with them, but they work for a lot oif people.

Heignt of stupidity......

Maimoona...well said and very balanced opinion!

Alma....it was not a matrimonial commercial, it is a Satellite TV commercial to get use to choice of different channels.

its not about seeking it, its about justifying it and trivializing the alternate societal norm....

You said that they got to know each other, meet, communicate for almost 7 months. What else does your friend need? 7 years? or she was excited to have sex with him before marriage to make sure that he is good enough for her thing or not?

She could simply refuse after the engagment for any valid reason. She could tell her family that she does not feel attracted to him, or that his mind and mentality is different that hers...etc

Most parents (Now, and not 200 years ago) will understand and respect thier daughter decision and won't force her.

You only seek hanging out with a bf, satisfying your animalistic instincts and having your sweet dreams about your romantic marriage after you try him on bed. Am I right? :) Naturally, you will say NO! That is not my intention and WILL!!!

Reality and Honesty hurts sometimes, but you better face it and admit it.

I mean getting married is one thing, but you need to KNOW if that person is a good parent or not... and what better way than to hook up and have babies... like a trial...

But like in supermarket you know... return before five days... instead, we'll keep return before 5 years...

WOOOW That's great!!

I meet a Qatari girl. Then i start dating her to know her more. After that i sleep with her to check her up and probably have a baby from her. Two years after i deiced that we are not fitting each other. We keep doing that many times with different girls so MEN and WOMEN have lots of kids from different Boyfriends/Girlfriends. Or we use protection when we sleep together?

NICE IDEA Superwoman!! Shall we (me and you)try it first and give QLer feedback?

well, i read somewhere that he is handsome (sigh) :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

http://yadiin.blogspot.com/

this all story reminded me a funny Indian commercial check it out :

I'm sorry Superwoman for this tradition . Someone should emotionally attached to someone before getting married .I guess that is why many of you choose a cousin because at least you know him ...

there is a difference between 'arranged marriages' and 'forced marriages'...

This whole post is a miserable read... she had seven months to get to know her and she didn't make the effort and now she regrets... now who's to blame for THAT?

If she were so scared, what stopped her from disagreeing to the marriage, which she doesn't seem to have done...

there's nothing shameful about the tradition of arranged marriages... the only shameful thing here is the lack of foresight from the girl and the situation she got herself in...

BTW... why assume that the guy would just hop in bed and 'do it' the very first night... not all men are animals you know... even some MEN would like to get to KNOW their partners...

if people want to smell their grooms, flirt a bit, sleep with then, live in... that's their prerogative... but don't justify it... please... there are plenty of successful arranged marriages out there and plenty of unsuccessful love marriages out there... getting to 'KNOW' your fiance does not a successful marriage make...

Eco-Savvy, I understand your fury, because Superwoman is being irrational. Why do you have to say "comes from slums i think, where she is ok with one Valentine Rose and QR 100 RIYALS perfume"? Because, to many people, that's a lot and they are not from slums. They are middle-class people.

Maybe a diamond-studded platinum ring is what you expect on valentine's day complemented by an expensive French perfume, but pal, when a husband buys his wife a Valentine Rose and QR 100 RIYALS perfume with sincere intentions and love, she is delighted, because she knows it's his best way of saying he loves her. Not everyone can buy perfumes worth more.

There are people, civilised ones, who buy perfumes worth three riyals. Trust me, they are not stingy or from slums. They just don't earn 100'000 a month. And there's nothing wrong with not being super-rich. How can you say something so insensitive?

And Superwoman, why do you whine here, when you can sort out your problems with your parents? Your friend, I must say, should have been sensible enough to verbalise her thoughts and emotions, because whether or not you have an arranged marriage, communication is essential. And they knew each other for seven months...Why did she then stifle her thoughts? Was she retarded?

My folks had an arranged marriage, and I haven't seen a more happier couple. They are communicative and straightforward. I want to wind up like that.

NUCLEAR ENERGY: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.

IGNORE JACKFROST

"Recession is when your neighbour loses their job; depression is when you lose your job."

lol

very well... "stocks" it is!

i just hope superwoman understands this coz i can't :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

stocks last? or offer is valid till stock will last ? :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

Anyways..Goodluck!

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

traditional Arranged Marriages definitely need some amendments to maintain long term relationship BUT within Limited Freedom to understand and choose a groom/bride.

There are many ways to understand a stranger prior marriages (Not to go for test drive FU) :( ........

Number of meetings could be arranged with same age Friends, relatives with potential candidates BUT NOT alone. Have healthy conversation/communication before getting into a relationship.

SW....does raising such issues at QL, do Qatari traditions mould and change? I doubt.

king qatar, the 2nd paragraph, amazes me!!!! a movie and a sandwich? in my generation, we had popcorns lol

how the young changes :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

superwoman, i didn't read all the posts, but i really need to say this: r u really qatari? i'm sure you are, do u live here? do u know about all kind of secret relations that lead to marriage most of the time? how about dating in cars or in hotels or in cinemas?

i think traditional marriage is overrated by yourself here, i think only very few families are still following this by the book, yet most of the guys and girls are having phone and car relations for years before getting married.

finally, don't worry, you really won't get married this way because i'm sure you'll find your soul mate somehow and get to know him well before a "fake" khatba come to your house and ask you to marry him.

Yalla!

hahahaha get real

"Superwoman to the rescue"

ur 100% right so u guys dont like it too , and I only talked about woman because I am one I cant say anything about men I simply dont know ho wthe feel !!

"Superwoman to the rescue"

your friend is not super compared to u superwoh-man

she had 7 months of engagment, and still she feels she's going with a stranger..

just imagine going on a date with someone you met in a club.. foavorite place of yours ,and after 24 hours its a movie and a snadwitch to end up in bed first night,, would that satisfies her ?

if it does , i guess we have lots of guys in here eager to break all cultural barriers

This will be very good to remind them.

Please do so if you feel it will help.

Then you will be a key player for fixing those who are forgetting these rights.

Khalid the tiger, I will put your post on a big billboard at the city centre...........for those 99.99% muslim men who either have forgotten or don't give a damn.

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

lol

i didnt think husbands are required to clean nowadays... hey, that's an idea ")

...listen to the sound of silence....

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

khalid, you have to add 3more to make it 30. :)

happy lunch

...listen to the sound of silence....

she couldnt answer basic questions. She doesnt even know what is marriage contract.

Superwoman: "force u not to know each other before marriage!!"

I think she is voicing her concern for that traditional mistake of not allowing couple to meet before marriage. This happens among muslims not in tens or hundreds but numerous such cases. Sometimes it is their brought up that promotes this laidback attitude in choosing the partner and depending on parents other times forced by parents themselves....

Man or husband go and hunt to bring the food and makes his family live healthy

From Islamweb.net I post these

Etiquettes pertaining to the Husband

1. It is not from the deficiencies, but rather from good manners, that the husband shares in the responsibility of specified matters, such as the mending of garments or what is similar to that.

2. It is appropriate for a man to not restrict himself from serving himself. This is since the wife takes care of the household affairs. So therefore, it is from good manners that the husband extends a helping hand to his wife in the house, during times of necessity, such as when she is sick, pregnant, has given birth or similar to that.

3. The exemplary husband is he who cooperates with his wife by bearing good relations and showing kind manners (to her), according to the full extent of the meaning contained in these (last) two expressions. Truly, the husbands who are best at working alongside their wives are the best of mankind in the view of Islam.

4. Beware of characterizing the relationship between the spouses with over-seriousness! For indeed characterizing the family life with a militaristic nature amounts to one of the causes for failure and bad results.

5. From the kind and noble manners of the husband is that he complies and assents to the requests of his wife, so long as they are not forbidden in Islam.

6. The husband should specify a time in which he can play around and pass free time with his wife.

7. The relationship between the spouses must contain one singular and specific nature. And it cannot be this way unless the couple begin demolishing all the obstacles and impediments that stand between them. For example, the husband should not feel timid and restrain himself from drinking out of the same cup that his wife drinks out of.

8. There is no human being that is perfect. So there is no doubt that the husband will see things in his wife that do not comply with his natural disposition and preferences. If these aspects are not in opposition to the fundaments of Islam or to the obedience of the husband and his rights, then at that point, he should not try to change her personality. He should also remember that if there are some characteristics that he doesn't find pleasing in his wife, then indeed she has other characteristics, which are definitely pleasing to him.

9. Do not let Ramadhaan be a barrier that impedes you from showing affection to your wife. But this is so long as you are able to refrain yourself, since what is forbidden during the days of Ramadhaan is only sexual intercourse. Showing affection to one’s wife during Ramadhaan can be done during the night and if during the day (while they are fasting), it can be done by other than kissing and huging.

10. Do not chase after the small errors of your wife and recount them to her, for too much blaming and reprimanding will worsen the relationship between the two of you, and it will pose a threat to your marital life.

11. If you are able, do not hold back from providing your wife with good clothing and food, and from being generous in spending money on her. This is of course according to the extent of your ability.

12. Do not give little importance to implementing the punishment required for any acts in opposition to the Islam, which your wife has committed, whether it is in the home or outside it. This should be the only reason that causes you to become angry.

13. What has been stated previously does not mean that you should leave matters alone until that result comes to happen. Thus, whenever you realize that a matter is left alone, weigh it with seriousness and determination, without being too harsh or rude about it.

14. Do not attempt to meddle into your wife’s housework affairs that do not fall into your area of duties and responsibilities, such as the food and the order of the house because woman like to put their personal touch on the house (her kingdom).

15. Beware of scolding your wife or blaming her for a mistake she committed, in the presence of others, even if they are your own children. For indeed that is an act that goes against correct behavior and it will lead to raising anger in the hearts of people.

16. If you are forced to place punishment upon your wife after having adviced her and she didn’t respond, then let it be by staying away from her at bedtime. And do not boycott her except that it is done within the household. And avoid using foul language, insulting her, beating her and describing her with repulsive names.

17. Having jealousy and caring about the bashfulness of your wife is a praiseworthy thing, which shows your love for her. However it is on the condition that you do not go to great extremes in this jealousy. For then at that point, it would turn into something worthy of no praise.

18. Entering the house: Do not alarm your family by entering upon them suddenly. Rather, enter while they are aware of it, and greet them with Salaam. And ask about them and how they are doing. And do not forget to remember Allaah, the Mighty and Sublime, when you enter the house.

19. Beware of spreading any secrets connected with the intimate encounters you have with your wife, for that is something restricted and forbidden.

20. Constantly maintain the cleaning of your mouth and the freshening of your breath.

21. Guardianship of your wife doesn't mean that you can exploit what Allaah has bestowed upon you from taking charge of her, such that you harm and oppress her.

22. Showing respect and kindness to your wife's family is showing respect and kindness to her. This applies on the condition that it is not accompanied by an act forbidden in Islam, such as intermingling of the sexes or being in privacy (with them).

23. Too much joking will lead to (your family having) little fear (of disobeying you) and a lack of respect for you.

24. Be prompt in fulfilling the conditions, which you promised to your wife during the pre-marriage agreement.

25. When you lecture your wife or reprimand her or simply speak to her, choose the kindest and nicest of words and expressions for your speech.

26. It is not proper for you to ask your wife to look for work outside of the house or to spend upon you from her wealth.

27. Do not overburden your wife with acts that she is not able to handle. Consider, with extreme regard, the environment she was raised up in. Rural service is not like urban service, and the service of a strong woman and her preparation for it is not like the service of a weak woman.

why not "all the things required of a husband"?

sounds better

...listen to the sound of silence....

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

FU "can do most of the things required of a husband " :)

...listen to the sound of silence....

I think the problem here for SUPERWOMEN is the lack of knowledge about Islam... and the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet (pbuh)... ?

as I cannot point the finger against her... it is the duty of her parents to teach about this... if they dont do it... how can you blame the innocent superwomen....

It's not just the Qatari women who suffer, it's also the guys. Do you think they really enjoy being told by their father who they ought to marry, knowing that they really aren't in a position to say 'no'?

I have Qatari male friends who felt coerced into paying for lavish weddings (200,000+), never feeling that they had any say in the situation. In a few cases the couple dirvorced after just a few months, because they simply didn't get along.

Thankfully there were no children in the marriage and it was only the lives of the husband and wife that were ruined.

Please don't think only the women are victims of this situation.

I earn well,'am healthy and can do most of the things required of a husband. I won't pay dowry. I don't like the practice.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

In 1999 June my parents call me and said, hi son, we found a good girl for you, do you like to marry her.... I said Ok mam, then we all went to see her in her house, we talked her family, then the real moment came where I have to meet her, I was waiting in a Room, she entered inside with one of her relative (this is islamic tradition, the girl should be accompanied by one of her relative, please dont mis understand this is Qatari culture, or asian culture, indian culture...etc..)

We talked each other for 6 or 10 minutes, when both are agreed we fixed the marriage date also. the Nikah was fixed on July 12 1999. we used to call each other by telephone (one of the best time) and Mahr was fixed (this is also based on Isalimic tradition). and we became one....

Now we have three children two girls and one boy... Alhamdulillah we are enjoying our life... we do have fight each other, we do have different opinions in different subject... but still we love each other like....I dont know like what.... and we thanks to the almighty for giving such a good life for us...

i am very much aware that some of qatari men are gays and have boyfriends... and they have sons as well...

i feel sad for both parties.

Well, when you have kids of your own, you can either let them choose the person they'll marry or follow your tradition and marry them off with your choice

...listen to the sound of silence....

you are ignorant. or you wish to keep yourself blind.

Thats your problem

aye aye, deepb. i said just that in my earlier post: forced is different from arranged.

I believe these are arranged marriages not forced marriages. Huge difference between the two. If your against it I believe you have the right to refuse during the courting period. I think i have to agree with the general consensus of superwoman not being a genuine Qatari.

... actually... speaking, arranged MARRIAGES are another way of getting married ... and please don't think the traditional MEET, FALL IN LOVE, GET MARRIED is the best way to find the person of your dreams.

More than 50% of Western marriages which are based on this MEET-LOVE-MARRY concept break up even before a year together. And all the "ARRANGED" marriages are not SO bad like you say. I mean, the first night together, for two MATURE people need not be a night full of SEX. Its a first night of your entire life together. It should be a more of understanding each others feelings and feeling comfortable with each other.

Pros and Cons both ways.

yeah, been friends and having sex then having kids then get married !!!!

salary happily? he is rich to buy BMW,yatch, he cant afford to buy gift worth of 100,000

SUPERWOMAN comes from slums i think, where she is ok with one Valentine Rose and QR 100 RIYALS perfume

SW's personal comments and understanding on such marriages are extremely POOR and in bad taste....

There is absolutely no need to get intimate before marriage.....It requires sense of maturity, understanding of marital commitments and additional responsibilities the contract demands. Post marriage, she is 'NOT with a stranger on bed' but HER life partner.

Marriage is not a purchase deal/transaction but a social way of living together as Spouse within the Family and act as Shadows for eachother. Meher in Islam is considered A special gift of the husband to His wife

The amount of Meher is a Future security for women.

Compulsory Marital Gift for a Woman:

When she gets married, she is on the receiving end.

She receives a gift - she receives a dower or a marital gift, which is called as ‘Meher'

And it is mentioned in the Qur’an in Surah Nisa, Ch.4 Verse No.4 which says, ‘Give to the woman in dower, a marital gift. For a marriage to solemnize in Islam, ‘Meher is compulsory

@SW...I feel you live under high influence of local traditions without understanding the purpose/reasoning of basic islamic/marriage rules.

Most of the men....let's say conservative men are very confused regarding the concept of marriage.

For them, man leads and woman follows; man provides and so woman sleeps with him.If the woman is not virgin, she is a poor investment and less value of their money.Children are produced as insurence policies for old age. More the number of children, stronger is the security.

I have nothing to say to the abovementioned prototype, as I feel they are no better than gutter worms.

For me, men and women decide to marry each other , as they believe in the same values, they can be supportive to each other through good or bad times. They want to procreate for a better world to come. Yes.. they have to be choosey..........bet your ass on that..

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

in case of your friend, she could had best options of cellular phone, internet, webcam etc....

A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc

where Kazi comes recites and same day bride goes home.

Qatari marriage is totally different. Their contract is completed with few family members in Sharia court. Once the contract is done, they plan their wedding it takes 1-2 years. During this time bride completes her studies, together they design their home, their wedding costumes, wedding stages.

Superwoman is not ready to discuss marriage contract cos she doesnt Know how the rules are set

yes i read that, superwoman. it's actually healthy to sit together with family, and there are other religions and cultures that promote this type of interaction before marriage ... unless your idea of getting to know somebody is to be alone with each other and do stuff your family won't allow before marriage.

Superwomen,

Just an advice:

You have good writing skills and very interesting issues to write about, why not write a book and get it published overseas under a pseudonym?

If you get it right, I am sure you will get the world's attention and you might contribute to the opening of your conservative society.

7 month is the duration time they didnt get to know each other at all at these times but if u can read they had few time to see each other few as in 2 or 3 with their presence .

"Superwoman to the rescue"

Edited by Mod: Please post on Religious Teaching Group!

i still don't get why 7 months of getting to know each other is not enough to be friends with the future husband, and get comfy with him.

i think if this is a true story, the couple would be soooo eager to be with each other by that time, lol.

knowing mean :

1-conversating ,talking , asking questions ,listen to each other point of views.

2-doing activities , being in an environment that’s outside both of our territories.

3-sharings things and emotions, experiencing happy and sad ,good and bad situations together.

ect.

"Superwoman to the rescue"

this is my subject and I m good at it.

can u explain a bit more, that wat do u mean by knowing a person???

May be it will give us a clear side of ur msg.

A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc

dont know what is marriage contract. I am still waiting for you to come up with answers. Your Sheikh google cant help you with rules of marriage contract.

whats with this pagan of yours.

act your age not stupid.

and she will pay for every men

Is it a crime to KNOW the person I'm marrying ?

"Superwoman to the rescue"

they shouldn't marry untill they got one, two or three kids :-)

Thats fine to u???

A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc

I just want to give my very little contribution here.

Some weeks ago I got into an argument on Youtube, commenting a video about the different types of islamic woman veil (hijab, niqab, and so on).

Someone answered me that 'in islamic culture, the casual contact between man and woman is not encouraged'.

I felt like...man! If it was me, life has no meaning anymore. How I am supposed to flirt? 'casual contact' can be one of the most beautiful and poetical exchange of eyesight in your whole life you will ever experience.

Nevertheless, Arranged marriages have a long tradition in southern Italy too.

so the moral of the story should be that she should kick him just becoze she knew him for 6 or 7 months???

what if hes a good person????

so ull kick him just becoze u dont know him???

actually in animals the parents do not perform arrange marriages.

and asian women are the best in the world they are civilised, traditional, god fearing, totally social and have ideal qualities for a good wife, good mother, good sister and so on.

yea there are restrictions but there should be some restrictions.

u say that asian women are in the worst position???

what do western women teach their children????

they split up before the children reach an adult age and are selfish and lack family values

Asif , that is the point. We are human being, not animals.Marriage should not be like breeding horses. Even mares kick away a partner she doesn't like. I think asian females are in worst position.........sorry for the offensiveness...but couldn't resist

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

this engagement period is two or four or six month where the man can sit and speak to the lady which he will marry and they will know each other thoughts.

I have a question, why many people think that man will know the woman better only if he f**k her?

Those people who think like this reminds me of a joke, this joke says that the opened the brain of one of those people and they found only one wire and they people who opened the brain did not know the function of this wire so they decided to cut the wire and when the wire was cut the mans balls fall down.

i cant see any shamefulness in the story.

ok tell me how we should marry????

and whoes the stranger???

its metioned that they met each other in 7 months time so how can both of them be strangers to each other???

and what is ur point of view???

in most of the asian countries we have a similar tradition. we respect the our culture and tradition and our parents choose the partner for us.

because we are human beings not animals.

make some sense before posting this useless post.

i dont get it:

a) they had 7 months to get to know each other.

b) she saw his pic and was excited, pls don't tell me that after 7 months, they are not dying to be intimate -- it isn't human nature! it just isn't.

c) if she wasn't ready, she could communicate to him, and if he respects her, he will wait.

consummation of marriage does not have to be on the first night. i know of so many who waited 1 or 2 weeks, before they could be comfortable in doing that.

what most of us do not agree with is when you DON'T want the guy, and you are forced to marry him.

Forced is different from arranged. Most ladies appreciate that someone is arranged for them, it saves them the headache of finding someone!

The only thing wrong with this blasted tradition is that Asian communities have been breeding idiots for generations who have no say of their own. They are born and bred for slavery.If you have disagreement with me, just look around yourself. End of the subject.

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

Whats wrong with arranged marriages anyway. It is the culture in most of the Asian communities.

Maybe you have got a complex

so real.. well.. so sad for them (women). that's their tradition.. we do nothing for it...

Superwoman, if you have issues, instead of whining on an online forum, why not get off your hindside & find a solution.

Start with what you said. You don't like arranged marriages. Fine, go talk to your parents, or whoever is your guardian.

Lot of people have had arranged marriages, and they are perfectly blissful. All parents want the best for their kids. if you are not happy with their decision, let THEM know. You don't have to come on a chat forum and complain to strangers about something that is a personal matter.

And why do you have to interpret it as "Shameful Qatari" tradition. Arranged marriages happen in a lot of other cultures too, especially in Asia. Even in the "West" there are arranged marriages, but its more to do with "business" side of things.... heiresses/heirs marrying into other rich families.

Oh common people. She has as issue to discuss about. and its just like anyone else who started a thread with topic that comes out of the teeth.

I dont mind an arranged marriage as long as I get to know the person u lucky u have the choice some girls dontttt and those r the ppl i try to stand up for "Superwoman to the rescue"

do you want me to give her one day to Google and then come back with answers

since you cant talk about Mahr. I am giving you easy question

we need to admit, when one of the family members is telling what is really going on inside our house to strangers, we feel disgusted. that is the time to choose, are we going to be a real family member to the one squelling the rotten things inside our house or we will disown her?

the latter one is easiest and common. we tend to turn our back to the complainant. character assassination is the easiest way to cover the problem. help her instead of disowning her and assassinate her character.

progress

so ur saying get married if its goood its good if its bad TALK IT OUT lol ur funny what bout if I get hurt trama drama the damage ..

its like building a house with two unknown substances and hope it wont fall !!!

my probem isnt the arranged marriage people its the tradition the force u not to know each other before marriage!!

Hats off to you superwoman for your courage. I don't know what have you been posting in your previous threads. But this time, you are right as hell. Don't worry about the criticism. It only proves that your point is stronger than you initially thought.

Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!

Actually superwoman I can have a love marriage if I want but I am opting for an arranged one because I never trust my choices ;)

http://skadian-lifeinqatar.blogspot.com/

for each thread created. Just avoid nasty words!!!! ad try to analyze deeply what is written!

"I'm back, simple as that"

she is Pagan. Right now she is trapped in her web. She knows me well thats why she is not responding

maybe because you would do such a thing " faking to be some one your not" it doesnt mean i would do it.

i am qatari. believe it or not. if you dont please dont comment on it then since you are so convinced am not.

"Superwoman to the rescue"

Traditions are traditions and most of the time you have to respect them unless they clash with religion.

Your friend was given some time to get to know her husband, it's natural for her to feel some anxiety and fear, but don't call it "rape" that is beyond ridiculous.

I will have to agree with snessy you are only around to stir sh*t up, this site is full of closet haters and outspoken ones you are only adding fuel.

Arranged marriages happen in many societies and religion and believe it or not, there are people who prefer it. What if you cant find a life partner on your own but you want to get married and have a family life. In such situations its a good thing that your family (who consists of people who love you and want your well being) helps you find a suitable life partner. Marriages are made in heaven, arranged or love its still destiny. The person you are getting married to is a human right, not some animal or alien so why cant you talk to him/ her and sort your issues out before you get married or on your wedding night? If talking is an issue then write to him/her.

For every problem there is a solution.

There are problems in love marriage too. If a man has to deceive you after marriage in a arrange marriage situation then he can do the same in a love marriage situation too.

Pray, have faith in God and put a little bit of effort in your life.

exactly, you wouldnt even know if the dude your marrying smells good or take showers because you dont get to sit next to him till the wedding....lol

i wouldnt want to marry mr. universe if he stinks

"Superwoman to the rescue"

I am not criticizing people in this situation, I have friends who have had successful and failed arranged marriages and do not wish it on anyone...unless they are happy to have one.

I am saying YOU are NOT Qatari and are making up this thread about your so-called friend to get attention.

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

very well

hmm its like married to stranger...

they can know each other after marriage..

asking for people to get to know each other doesnt make me a bit**. thats why we have a high divorce rate mr. hallawalla incase you dont know it.

"Superwoman to the rescue"

either

am just trying to give a voice to many girls who dont agree with this life style but think that they have to fake it to conform with the rest so people with you wouldnt come and critisize them like you are doing right now.

"Superwoman to the rescue"

So, marriage is now a shameful Qatari tradition?

So, girls should be whores and bitches like you superwoman?

PAGAN.

superwoman, you are speaking for many qatari women. there are a lot of qatari women out there who are suffering from these culture and tradition. start from here (QL) and let their voices heard all over the world. let them know that we people are the one making culture and tradition and not the culture and tradition making people.

let them understand that it is very normal to commit mistakes, by obeying blindly, but as a wise and modern qatari, you can choose. everybody has the right to choose.

gird your loin, there are many narrow minded people out there who will say many bad things about you, have courage, for you voice will be heard. if not now, soon. the result will be glorifying to qataris and peace for everyone.

progress

this pagan is googling Mahr

Superwoman, if this is a true predicament you're in I would feel for you, but looking at your previous threads, I don't believe you. I get the impression you are initiating these threads to start up more hatred.

How have I come to this conclusion...

1. You are not an active Qler

2. You have only commented on 4 threads altogether

3. You have started 2 threads out of 3 badmouthing the Qatari way of life.

4. You come across as attention seeking

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

we get paid a dowery worth hundreds of thousands.... i dont agree with that , am not a sofa and i certainly dont want to be bought. and guess what? even if i dont ask for that huge dowery , my parents wont allow it because they would be afraid of people saying they gave away thier daughter for free, that is the qatari mentality.

thats one of the worst traditions in qatar.

"Superwoman to the rescue"

Maggot

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

I am aware for them there is NO MAHR for christians.

because I seek change honey that requires not accepting and disagreeing on the inhuman issues "Superwoman to the rescue"

the poster maybe just airing "isolated" cases prevalent (does it make sense, isolated but prevalent?) in this country if not in this region!

What should be emphasized is her insight that she don't want this kind of marriage (arranged) happening to her. Well, good for her that she is seeing this thing in the right perspective! Well, anyway, it works to some and maybe all end's in well! Hopefully!

"I'm back, simple as that"

here

I don't.

http://skadian-lifeinqatar.blogspot.com/

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

i feel so sorry for u !!!!

"Superwoman to the rescue"

cos Qatari's are muslims.

You know I will have an arranged marriage, I am not a Qatari and surely not a girl. I will just respect my culture and tradition. Will I be total stranger for my wife when I marry her, No. Just like your friend I will talk to her and meet her a few times and there will be atleast a year's gap from the time I first meet her to our marriage to get to know her as well as I can. Am I old fashioned, maybe yes but I surely think I won't be raping my wife.

http://skadian-lifeinqatar.blogspot.com/

not looking for attention, thank you,

when a qatar women is seeking a better way to live her life, she gets asked if she is really a qatari,

u say this life style shouldnt be a surprise to me. you are right, it doesnt mean that i agree with it.

black americans fought for thier rights and the government didnt say why change, this life style isnt new to you.

just breaching for human rights

"Superwoman to the rescue"

my bad...it's QATAR(i) bashing day...

but it seems like cr*p-stirring...with a big ladle...yuuck!

:-P

Snessy, I have a feeling of that also!!!

Superwoman, You cannot change your culture alone?

You cannot change your tradition by posting it on QL!!!

Just love & respect it ; like what other expat

respect and love your Country QATAR!

Me? as a filipina; I do really love my country

and I am proud to be a Filipina!!!!

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

May you die with Aids insha Allah

and she is one of our Qler

FROM

Exactly blanche, if you grow up in a particular culture or religion, this wouldn't be a surprise. I get the feeling superwoman isn't Qatari ;-)

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

Another rebellion thread from Superwoman to her own country QAtar!!

tsk!tsk! tsk!!

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

what Bull Sh*T superwoman is talkign about.

she atleast ahd 7 months to get to know him, defently must have talkined a lot more on phone etc.

what are you complaing about, let's talk about other region culter than, you meet in Bar, first time, don't know each other and end up sleetping with person after getting drunk.

finding yourself, half naked in bed in the morning with soemoen else sleepign next to you that you met last night... how is that compare to a marriage????

Apologies for being so cynical, but why oh why do you always come out of the woodwork with a thread seeking for some kind of attention?

*****If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all*****

"katas ng qatar"

...but can't imagine buying a car without one or a worn out one for that matter.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

Why not FU. Even if you are intending to buy a lambo, test drive it first. The piston hole might have worn out.

Source:

- A study Conducted by FriedUnicorn - Vol I (September,1999)

sorry but i cannot get married like this... i am so glad i am free to choose who to marry.. :)

Yallah Qler another chance for shit stirring and BS.

____________________________________________________

Have Courage To Live.

Anyone Can Die.

Very true. Get to know each other before hand. Undress him / her to check the smallest detail like if there is a ring worm somewhere.