What is the rule on this?

Judge yourself, ask him that if he feeling well or not, u can ask him to take rest or he can take water, and also he can keep fasting after.Islam dont force....

Nomerci, the answer to your question is what I would have done myself and take full reponsibility. I did not know what to do...I could not offer them water, could I?? You could So, what is the rule when people are obviously feeling ill due to the above mentioned factors during Ramadan? It is allowed to break the fast on medical groundsAm I allowed to offer water? Yes you are allowed as long as the other person is willing to accept. You cannot compel him. Are they allowd to accept? Why not. Of course they can accept if they cannot bear with their illness. God Wants ease on people. He can always replace that missed fast later on. He did not do it intentionally for his own pleasure. "Show mercy on my creatures and on the Day of Judgement, I Will show Mercy unto you." A narration from the prophet Mohamed(Peace be upon him)

marhbaYou are right to say there is no rule. But when you say it is a moral duty to respect ppl who are fasting, I have this to ask:How do you respect someone who is fasting? How do you know someone is fasting? Fasting is the most unapparent act of devotion. It is between you and God. Unless the one fasting opens his mouth and says he/she is doing so, how would someone else know? It is assumed that in the month of Ramadaan everyone is fasting. It is not 100% correct. Women for example cannot fast 30 days continuously. Sometimes, some men or women could not fast for health reasons. Unless one opens his mouth and says so, no one can know for sure he/she is fasting.I saw some people from various Arab countries kind of imposing that others should not eat when they are fasting. Is this called respect? I feel much much better to see someone eating and drinking in front of me when I am fasting. I feel good. I derive a personal sense of satisfaction that I am depriving myself of desires for food, sex, amusement, etc for the sake of God (Like it was in London). When I don't see people eating or drinking, I tend to forget that I am fasting(for example here)...anyway sorry for digressing.Where in Islamic History it shows that when all Muslims were fasting, during the times of Mohamed, his companions and the children of his companions and the grandsons of his companions, the Christians and Jews and others amongst them did not eat in front of the Muslims for respect. Where? Somebody show me please.I feel it is an act of hypocrisy to tell others not to eat in front of those who are fasting for respect sake. I feel like it is more like that the fasting guy cannot control his desires and fears he commits sins of temptation. I find it ridiculous to kind of imposing on other faiths not to eat in front of Muslims who are fasting. This is not respect and surely no moral duty.Well this is my opinion.Besides, it is compulsory for a Muslim to save his life. So this means breaking his fast, eat pork, or drink alcohol, if he feels he can save his life by so doing.God Wants only ease upon the Muslims.

Here is a link that is relevant to your questionhttp://islam.about.com/od/ramadan/a/ramadan_health.htmFor everyone's convenience let me quote the relevant paragraphs [The Qur'an instructs Muslims to fast during the month of Ramadan, but also gives clear exemptions for those who may become ill as a result of fasting:  "But if any of you is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed number (of Ramadan days) should be made up from days later. For those who cannot do this except with hardship is a ransom: the feeding of one that is indigent.... Allah intends every ease for you; He does not want to put you to difficulties...." - Qur'an 2:184-185In several other passages, the Qur'an instructs Muslims not to kill or harm themselves, or cause harm to others.]Hope that answers your question :) 

then try to be politician... atleast we will luv to read your comments then.. or atleast me :)truth can be in a better way also.. its all about choosing the words.. and i don't think that you don't have that ability to choose better words..

@ brit,well put mate...

I have seen people breaking fasts on health grounds but they said they would make it up before the other eid which falls about 2 months after this one.

I could, ingeniero, but I'd rather leave it to the politicians to be polite. Truth, I know, is brutal and hurts some people.

Well, anyhow, thanks for the info everybody!

103% agree with Britexpat :)

Brit...your word in everybody elses ear!

nomerci, i don't think that there is any problem.. if am at the same situation.. and some one ask me or offer me water.. i will either take it or refuse it with thanks...there is no problem.. in your mind you were thinking that he is in trouble and just wanted to help.. take or refuse is others option.

Common sense and goodness usually prevail over stupidity .. Just do what your heart tells you and you won't go wrong :0)

LP, watch your last comment, "Just let them die if they want to!" isn't this a rudness?? you can talk politely.. then why you don't?

britex, usually i would agree. But I want to be sure and 100% safe about what is allowed to do during Ramadan.I have no intention of getting in any kind of trouble.

John, no, not at all. I was just out for about an hour, shopping, and  I happened to see the incidents. All I really wanted know is if there is an Islamic rule on this.Other than that, each to their own. 

It's simple and logical really. If a person is feeling unwell or in distress than he / she should be helped - in any circumstances

ingeniero, what is rude about accepting an individual's will? Let everybody live as they want. Let them also die if they want.

were U on servey to observe how people feel, when they are fasting?

even muslim can drink alchohal, if he didn't get water, and his life is in danger. so he can up to some extent. islam is not that much rigid as we all think.

you offer him, its good.. may you get reward of this..and acceptance is upon him.. islam doesn't force one.. if person can't continue fast, and have some reasons for that, he can break... he will keep it after,  its my opinion and knowledge. i am not 100% sure about this.. one can check and consult the scholars for that. LP: why you are rude again :(

Well, the thing is, is he actually able to determine if he can continue his fast or should have water for the sake of his health? I saw another man today, he was running onto the street (D ring) with a crazed look on his face, flailing his arms...it was quite disturbing! Well, I guess it all comes with the territory.... I was just worried about those people I saw today.

kindly read my comment again - Islam doesnt force , it is quite difficult for the labours to keep fast in this temperature

If he is not able to continue he accept it, otherwise he'll refuse.

Just let them die if they want to!

There is no Rule. But it is moral duty to respect ppl who are fasting. There is no problem in offerring water in case they asked you but if they don't ask you you are not suposed to force them.

completly depends on the person himself and Islam never says to put one's life in danger if he goes to that extent he can break his fast

nite rider, they were obviously fasting....

Well, ok, but I would like to know the Islamic rule on this.And I would think, that some people would insist on continuing their fast despite putting their health  in danger.So, what is done in such a situation?

before offering water if the person is fasting or not

If he says no you can always offer

if they are ill then you should call paramedics if they need first aid treatment.

i guess you should ask them if they can still manage to continue with their fasting at least you didn't ignore them if they really needs medical help.

if they are ill then you should call paramedics if they need first aid treatment.

i guess you should ask them if they can still manage to continue with their fasting at least you didn't ignore them if they really needs medical help.