Wearing Miniskirts could lead to Rape
Can dressing provocatively hinder your chances of finding a life partner or lead to rape ?
A top cleric is under fire for saying that women who wear miniskirts and get drunk should not be surprised if they get raped.
"If she (a woman) is wearing a miniskirt, it is provocative," he said. "If she is drunk at the same time then she is even more provocative, and if she herself is actively seeking contact with people and is then surprised when that contact ends in rape she is wrong."
The problem, he claimed, was that some women confused the street with a strip club and dressed like prostitutes.
"A woman who is barely dressed or made up like a clown will certainly not find a man as a partner in life with an ounce of sense or self-respect," he said.
A Human rights activists said: "It's all nonsense. Let people dress how they like. Next they'll be telling women not to wear lipstick."
The cleric said he was glad he had started a public debate, denied he was justifying rape, and said a nationwide dress code was needed.
Source : Telegraph
Wearing Miniskirts could be one of the reason for Heart Attacks...:(
It's unbelievable the number of people on here that are actually agreeing with this narrow-minded unaware cleric...
A woman that dresses skimpily may in all likelihood be looking for attention & for a guy to appreciate her or even make a pass at her,what she does NOT intend is for some pyscho to rape her...
Some of the comments here remind me of self-appointed "protectors of Indian culture" back home justifying guys harrasing/misbehaving with women based on the way they're dressed???...that's just ridiculous,who gives anyone the right to decide how a woman should dress to prevent some psycho from raping her???...
We live in a free world(for the most part!) & freedom is one of the fundametal rights of the human race,deciding what a woman should or should not wear to "prevent being raped" is denying women the freedom of choice & that is unacceptable...to me at least...
What i've learned from QL Experts, it says that the cleric needs to be sent to university.
Can't remember who said, ‘Nuns are Lesbians'
Yeah course they are! Enjoy that thought sicko.
No woman or a man deserves being raped.
How one person chooses to dress has no bearing at all how you are as a person.
Men think differently than women, look back at some posts on here from men; /
It does not matter at all how a girl/woman dresses; if a man is intent on rape he will do so.
Have you ever heard of a woman judging a man in shorts and tight T-shirt and jumping on him?
No woman/girl should be judged on what they wear.
Lots of girls who cover are seen as sexy. They walk in a certain way etc.
Rape does happen in all countries.
It is not down to what the raped person has on.
If a person wants to rape they will.
who got raped?
Poor in Trignometry,may be!
They both looked pretty much the same wearing that sort of abaya. So, it was not really a 'decision', more pure accidentally.
why did he decide to follow Sister Logica, rather than Sister Mathematica ?
The equipment just needs to be disembarked ....Right,
.... but oh so far away frm the topic!let me put in my Two-bit for the MOD's sake.
Avoid provocation if that is not what one actually wants,
Impossing of self either verbally or physically should be avoided by all...
Peace;-)
That's not logically. It might hurt something.
HA,HA,HA,.....,One last doubt LP,What if dedecided unzipping was enough and never pulled down the pants?
No, there were actually two nuns, Sister Mathematica and Sister Logic. They noticed that a man followed them. So Sister Logic said: "Let's part, then he will run after one only. He can't run after two." After Sister Mathematica got home, she waited. The man had decided to follow Sister Logic. When she finally came, Sister Mathematica asked her how it went. "Logically," Sister Logic said. "When he ran after me, I ran faster, and logically he ran faster. When I stopped, he logically caught up with me." "Then I lifted my dress, and he slipped down his pants." "And then?" Sister Mathematica asked frightened. "Well, logically I could run faster with my dress up than he with his pants down." Logically.
HA.....LP, the combo was 4 Nunsstrolling down the forest lane,and 16 You-know-who's!
show that rapists will go for women who are wearing dresses/skirts as opposed to pants, as its easier to manipulate the situation.
So technically, it hasn't got to do with being dressed provocatively, but more to do with how quickly the rapists can do his deed. Dress/Skirt up, easier to hold a victim down with one hand and try to remove knickers with the other, than using both hands to remove pants/jeans (especially tight ones) cause that involved using both hands so nothing left to control the victim.
BTW, to the person who asked for stat about rapes of women in Abhayas. Its been discussed numerous times on this forum, that due to most rapes going unreported in Abhaya wearing countries, a true figure isn't going to come to light, but I can tell you, its probably way more than you might think.
Ice Maiden, serious?? On such a topic? I can't.
Back to topic.....women in Minis
A nun never walks alone. If there are four nuns, they will run seperate ways. And then each nun will face one rapist in spe. And then the above will apply.
The problem is not the dress or behaviour itself. The problem is the man (potential rapist) thinking that this appearance justifies his behaviour.
Oh LP, get serious :)
As per the cleric's reasoning wearing a mini could lead to a woman getting raped. Well, a nun is fully clothed, and there have been instances where nuns have got raped.
Bottomline: A woman's attire has no relation to her getting raped/not. It's what's in the man's / perpetrator's sick mind, his "intentions" that lead to a rape.
.......LP,and a nun with three men holding her down and the fourth with the pant's down????
to be raped they r lesbos :(
Nuns don't get raped, IM. A nun with her dress up runs faster than a man with his pants down.
Girls/women who were fully clothed have been raped. I don't know about women in abayas, but nuns have got raped. It goes against the above cleric's reasoning.
It does not matter what the women wears, the keyword is the "intent"......the intent of the perpetrator.
a lot of rapes were perpetuated by people known to the victim. so as you can see, the kind of dress that the victim is wearing is immaterial. rapists are rapists. they are animals, period. i dont know why so-called enlightened men always blame the women for the men's irresponsible behavior!
how can you avoid that situation when it's actually happening? what then?
Asif: I hope you're not in close proximity of me when I've had one too many!
not from Newcastle mate but have been there a few times with work, what a place! :0)
a rapist and sick mind will fulfill his dirty intentions regardless of any dress code..
Girl belongs to their family and once they get married to their husband. Why they need to show off if they really sexy and pretty? Only show girl (pay per view girl) show off their sexy body parts (or private parts). Why ordinary girl need to exposed then? To attract or to tease?
LostInspace you ain't from Newcastlse are you mate?
I had girl friend from there one, her middle name was goes down easy!
who get drunk and wear mini-skirts! and it also helps if they are fire breathing slags to go with it :0)
guys its of no use to discuss this useless topic.
if a lady wears a miniskirt, gets drunk and passes on the streets then its her fate and carelessness.A sensible women/man should be carefull about his/her actions.There is a limit for each and every things in this world.
Was this girl wearing a mini skirt or was she drunk or did she made any suggestive gestures to anyone??
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/1572034
Why these people are discussing such a silly matter? Discuss on a creative topic. Don't waste your time
johnson566,
tinkerbell said it will happen even if the lady is wearing abaya, she did not state statistics that says women in abaya were raped.
the problem here really is the cleric.
tinkerbell howmany girls who wear abaya had been raped...??? i am not saying everybody have to wear abaya but what i am saying provocative dress wearing can be one fact to lead RAPE .
I think instead of the woman the man should be covered and restrained. It is he who cannot control himself and behave. Most of the clerics are social misfits. So what do you expect from them ? If a woman wants to get laid there are thousands of ways she can do it. It does not require a miniskirt .
But why would a women wear a provocative clothing and expect no one gets provoked... isn't provocative means 'to provoke'... so the next question would be provoke for what?
Someone should keep a check on this cleric fellow,he seems to think everyone thinks like him! :)...
every one should have the right to wear what ever they want and also what they want to do . If girls want to wear minis and get drunk Hurray !!!!!
but on the other hand No one can tell any one to go to an extra mile if the person is going out of bound . Slutty is slutty and being slutty doesnt need drink or mini skirt.
Edited
Behind the story the punch line of the top cleric is: "If a women is wearing miniskirt she deserves to be raped."
What about the rapist? Normal mind wouldnt rape a women even she was walking naked on the street. IMO sixual intercourse with a drunk woman is not ethic even its not a rape. (As some of us are saying she wants to get laid etc)
So discussion will be like wearing miniskirt is provacative, shourlders and arms must be covered. Legs should be totally covered. Showing hair will make a man desire you. Finally it will end everyone should wear burkha.
Of course wearing decent clothes for both men and women is preferred but it shouldn't make us to say. "She was wearing provacative so she deserved it"
asif, you seem to be horny in this kind of weather, don't you think?
Are Mini Skirts allowed under an abaya? Would that be provoking?
Where have you seen that happening? Does that happen frequently where you come from?
And anyway if someone was passed out wouldn't the correct thing be to help them not rape them?
so the cleric was drunk with vodka when he made those statements, okay.
Then it could be linked to a vodka problem, WK.
So a Russian Orthodox dickhead then....ok.
Ok just checked the story on the internet, the guy is a Russian cleric.
I think in Russia women wearing minis should be awarded a bravery award for wearing mini skirt in that weather :-P
who the hell cares about what that cleric preaches?! he does not have the right to tell what everybody has to wear.
Frankly a stupid comment from a stupid man - dont know who he is, but I dont need to - his words speak volumes about his character ... hence...stupid man.
its more provocating when a women wears a miniskirt during rainy season and wet with an umbrella in her hands
Everyone should be free to dress how they want.
'A woman who is barely dressed or made up like a clown will certainly not find a man as a partner in life with an ounce of sense or self-respect'
Wrong.
It depends upon who is looking. If he is a maniac and looking only for lust then that is the time that his evil desire coming up that leads into rape even a lady is wearing abaya.
its more provocating when a women is :-
1. wearing miniskirt
2. drunk
3. passed out on the streets
4. last but not the least legs wide open and exposed.
Driving a car (especially Land Cruiser) could lead to death. Land Cruisers should not be allowed.
Wow. Does this also mean that people smoking in malls are also being provocative and shouldn't be surprised if we throw a bucket of water over them? It's a blameless crime?
Think that dress however is something just a little more serious...
Most violence against women anywhere in the world is committed by man/men known to the woman. Look at Pakistan and so-called 'honour killings'.
FYI Lots of us go to clubs in 'sexy outfits' and have never had an issue. We see it as our right to wear what we like. Just as much as people should be free to practice their religion. Rape is the responsibility of the rapist.
Just as much if someone is rich it doesn't give me the right to rob them.
A personal opinion after getting turned on seein babes in skirts may be..watch the guy..a potential rapist.
It "could" lead to rape. Yes. But it also "couldn't." The guy is basically saying nothing, only stirring up s*it.
No one rapes anyone on the Nude beaches in Europe so why would dressing up in a mini skirt lead to rape? hmmm
the person responsible for rape is the rapist.
A Human rights activists said: "It's all nonsense. Let people dress how they like. Next they'll be telling women not to wear lipstick."
Put very well I thought
If she is wearing a mini, getting drunk and if she herself is actively seeking contact then most probably she is looking to get laid and won't get raped :-P
By the way top cleric in which country brit?