Uk visa for Qatari Nationals
By Anonymous Qatari •
Dear Members of Qatar living I am raising the issue of Qatari's Visa's to the UK which is have to go through the UK Agency Border in Qatar for Citizens, but it should be upon arrival for citizens. The reason I am writing this topic in Qatar Living is because of the unfairness towards Qatari's. The UK citizens they get the tourist Visa upon arrival in Qatar ,so in my opinion Qatar's should receive the same deal to be fair to Qatar generosity when dealing with British citizens.
Hi UKengQatar,
Just like the EU citizens, UK citizens would also be entitled to a 1mnth extension.
Having mentioned the Americans; are they exempt from paying any fees on arrival? Do they also receive 1 month + the extension or more :D
If the historical and political context of the British colonial territories were translated into mutually feasible combinations - then this would imply that Britain should issue visas on arrival to all prior dominions.
That is the reason why there are special visa for Businessman and Investors in the UK and they are entitled to UK Residency and they can buy more that 49% of the business unlike in the GCC where foreign companies and Individuals are barred from owning more than 49% in a company.
Valid point Super Cool.
@UkEng.
When u invest in an otherwise struggling flagship/brand businesss u save all the jobs that go with them...when u then expand them further u create even more jobs for the local masses...and unlike industries these jobs cannot be outsourced and will forever be based in the UK.
painther the reason for buying the branded industries is that they can shift the production to India hence benefitting India and to some what Britain.
But flagship stores and football clubs only benfits the individuals investing.
Earlier this guys came to India and Asia for buiness, selling their pearls and a lot other things and they did not have visa or other formalities for visitors from this part of the world but now when those people want to visit over here they make them feel almost unwanted
Supercool ..I agree reciprocal agreements should be made between coutries of similar interests.
@painther
I know that it's per capita and to me that's what really counts...with the exception of very few..expats in any country will come and go, and the money will stay..especially in Qatar since they cannot acquire citizenship..citizens will always be there generation after generation, and they'll be the ones reaping the benefits. Besides, I think I'd go by what forbes says...they've earned enough credit to be trusted
Arien, I think that's because Indian buy/invest there in Industries (Corus, JLR, Tetlay...) unlike GCC's investment in hotel/departmental stores.
@UKEng
Like I said earlier
"In Qatar or else where...Anyone who's presense will enrich the country and help it economically should be given Visa on arrival...((((regardless of country of origin and regardless of where they r headed))))"
That sums it up for me..and I don't think Qataris enrich the whole EU eitherway...To me it's not about equality...it's just rash logic.
UK business express visa opens only for Indians. Same day issuance , fee is 4000 QR :( whereas normal visa is only 600QR !!
Ok supercool, per capita GDP does not make one biggest economy, but if that makes my host happy, I agree Qatar is the biggest economy of the world!!
:)
Supercool the Forbes link you quoted is per capita, As most of the population in Qatar consist of Expat who are contributing heavily in running this country do not count when it comes to the GDP per capita only the indeginous 300k Qatari get considered.
Where as Painther is quoting the overall GDP.
Also why do you only want visa on arrival to the UK when the US and other EU countries you need visa before you fly also? What is that attracts the GCC citizens to UK?
I think Indians, Sri Lankans, Indonesians and Philipinos need to receive Visa on Arrival in Qatar...they r an essential part of the force that drives the economy in Qatar
with that in mind I think Qataris deserve visa on arrival in the UK...regardless of equal treatment...it's just common sense
@Fubar
I'm all in favor for anyone getting a Visa on arrival if it's for the good of the country they r headed to
@painther
FYI
http://www.forbes.com/sites/bethgreenfield/2012/02/22/the-worlds-richest-countries/
Qatar falls at number 1...UK at 22nd
and that's just ONE country out of the whole GCC
Well I'll trust you on that - I get a visa on arrival so I've never needed to know.
@Fubar
Trust me I'm talkin based on first hand experience....as a child/teenage tourist, as a student, as a transit traveller, as a visitor and now as a professional..I've been thru it all..having lived in both the US and the UK I know all the ins and outs of Visa types applicable there....and those 3 "tourist/Visit/Business" r lumped into one catagory..with one abbriviation code..all other types including "medical, work assignment, student/resident, immigrant, diplomatic attachee, etc, etc" have a separate catagory each and require a lengthy check which is understandable
UK GDP : $ 2.45 Trilion
Qatar GDP : $ 172.99 Billion
Total GCC GDP : $ 1.44 Trillion
(2011 data),
now do the maths!!
It's kindda like if Qatar was saying...Situation in the middle east is not say and I need protection...I have no Army and I need American Army presense in Qatar...but...well...yea all American Army men have to go thru a lengthy Visa process!!!
What's a "Tourist/Visit/Business" visa?
They are very much not all the same!
Let me give you an overview of the different types of visas in case you are confused - there are tourist visas, for people coming as tourists, family visitor visas for people visiting family, business visitor visas for people coming to do business (making investments etc), study visas, transit visas, sportsmen visas etc.
They are all different types of visas issues for different purposes.
I know all GCC countries have investments in the UK...some more than others...if only one of them decided to just close up shop think of all the jobs that will be lost....think of all the income that will be lost...in what is annoucement by the british gov to be a struggling economy...I need some logic plz
@Fubar
And how do u think those investments were made??? didn't they have to enter the country or at least send a representative to enter it??? remember that it's called a Tourist/Visit/Business Visa...they r all tied...we r not talking about ppl goin there "Work" or reside...these r only "Visitors" and all their spendings...investments or otherwise form the same pool.
^^^^
And because Americans form such a big portion of the tourism they are given Visa on arrival isn't that correct??? It's like saying look im coming to your country to give u my money and ur saying...ummmmm naaaaah!!! then u complain about a financial crisis...with all due respect whoever made that decision is making it worse!!!
In Qatar or else where...Anyone who's presense will enrich the country and help it economically should be given Visa on arrival...regardless of country of origin and regardless of where they r headed
Here are some more specific numbers for you UK:
Top 10 Tourist Markets by value for the UK in 2012:
1 – USA
2 – France
3 – Germany
4 – Australia
5 – Irish Republic
6 – Spain
7 – Italy
8 – Netherlands
9 – Canada
10 – Switzerland
Top 10 Tourist Markets by visitor numbers for the UK in 2012:
1 - France
2 - Germany
3 - USA
4 - Irish Republic
5 - Netherlands
6 - Spain
7 - Italy
8 - Poland
9 - Belgium
10 - Australia
GCC might have business investments etc, but their spending as tourists really doesn't amount to much for the UK.
morningdelight thanks for the correction just checked, it is one month and not 14 days costing QR100 as I had assumed, still not long as the Qatari or other nationalities get when arriving in the Uk, straight forward visa for 6 months.
Secondly British tourism industry relies much more on US tourist rather than the middleastern tourist. As the US tourist travel around the UK and spend far more than the 3% of tourist from the ME who only concentrate on a small part of London spending money on the stores which they partly own and are they are entiled to claim back the VAT on departure.
Not saying they do not spend, but definitely are not the the overall top spending tourists.
UK lives on GCC money ...Lol
UKEngQatar why are the Brits given just two weeks - isn't the EU and Britain accorded the same visa duration [1month]? Unless of course it is two weeks and you pay nothing on arrival.
with respect to the members of Qatar living I want to say that UK lives on GCC money ,so please don't say stupid of them. If it's stupid of them don't come work for Qatar or any other GCC country because it's stupid of Uk citizens to work in GCC countries.
Sorry dude!
No quit pro quo here...it's by choice tht they don't give Qatari's a visa on arrival so yea life is all abt choices and the choose not too give.
@UkEng
I would GLADLY take the 2 week on arrival any day anytime and any country too! MANY times we have to travel for work for something urgent with very little notice, or for a friend's wedding or a conference or even an unplanned break.no prior Visa? forget it! Mind u, we have DAILY flights to London mostly packed and let's not forget that unlike Qatar, the UK is a country that does rely on tourism and on tourists spending money within its borders In this case it's making it hard for some of the highest spenders! we all know that GCC citizens go on ridiculous spending sprees there, stupid of them, but good for the UK.Does makin it harder for them to get there sound smart to u?
fubar Malaysians get visa on Arrival to Qatar for the rest you are correct.
The OP should also note that the UK visit visa issued is for 6 months without finger printing and full mediacal check, where as Qatar only offers Brits a 2 week visa on arrival. I really dont know what the OP is complaining about. The Uk visit visa offer to Qataris is much better than the one offered to Brits by the Qataris on arrival the duration is 6 months without any finger testing or full medical!
It's totally different that just because Qataris can enter Nepal with a visa on arrival doesn't mean Nepalese can enter Qatar with a visa on arrival.
Totally different, right?
Totally different that just because qataris can enter the Philippines with a visa on arrival doesn't mean Filipinos can enter Qatar with a visa on arrival.
Or Malaysians.
Or Yemenis.
Or Turks.
Or Indonesians.
Or Ugandans.
Or Tunisians.
Or Egyptians.
Toooootally different.
If you're seeking same equality between Qatar and UK rules, then there are LOT of Qatari rules needs to be changed in comparison to UK ones... I reckon it will take around 100 years...
SO FORGET ABOUT IT!
I didn't write that Marco. Take another look, it was the poster under me.
Britain launches 'super priority' same-day visa service for Indians
Britain on Tuesday rolled out the same-day visa for Indians, making it the first country to get a visa to visit UK within 24 hours.
The UK home ministry said the 'super priority' visa is the first-of-its-kind to be launched ever. India and Britain have a long history of trade and we run our largest visa operation in the world there. Officials say the issue rate has been high with "almost all Indians who apply for a UK business visa get one." India remains the UK's biggest visa operation in the world, processing around 400,000 applications each year.
There are 65 countries that a Qatar can visit an obtain a visa on arrival.
The full list is available here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Qatari_citizens
In the interests of fairness, and to agree with the original poster, I would argue that citizens of all 65 of those countries should have the ability to enter Qatar with a visa on arrival too.
THE DUDE IS TALKIN ABOUT A FREAKIN TOURIST/VISIT VISA!!!!
GOD IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY IS A HATING IDIOT THESE DAYS!!!!
I just have to wonder....if ur waiting for any tiny mere chance of any mention of the name Qatar to violently pounce at the chance of announcing how much u hate it here then why do u willingly subject urself to such horrible living conditions here????
Only Visit Visa's dear members I am not talking about work Visa's. Which I mean Qatari's only go there for one purpose( Tourism,Business, and studying), so only the visit Visa should be easier ,but other types of Visa's it must be more difficult for all.
Quote( kiwiinqatar1234 you also have a valid point equality is a must, British government should treat Qataries the same as brits are treated in qatar, Qataries who go to the uk should get a higher salary) Unquote
Higher salaries for doing what exactly? Shopping at the Harrods or screwing 'em cheap hos?? lol
Sulie, fubar is just being sarcastic... :)
Perhaps it is much easier for the Indians and other asians to visit and stay in London and no much hassles like having to run after the sponsor for every little thing.I for one would say about the UK " Their country, their rules on whom they want to let in and how and when they want to let them in"
hahahahahaha
fubar ,, check your information before u share it
To be fair as a Brit, I would much rather it be made easier for Qatari's to get visit visa's in exchange for tougher laws on many other nationalities.
Its not like Qatari's are going to seek asylum and given a free house, benefits etc. They are only going to do what they do best, go shopping and spend money! That can only be a good thing!
@ Anonymous Qatari you must be really bored whenever you wrote that, its their own country they have their own rules, leave it or take it, if you hate queuing to get a visa then you don't have to go there, unless they treat you the same over there looooool
@ kiwiinqatar1234 you also have a valid point equality is a must, British government should treat Qataries the same as brits are treated in qatar, Qataries who go to the uk should get a higher salary than a "Londoner" I mean if they decide to work over there, and they should join a forum or something britsliving.com or something, and they start to express their feelings how shi*y the Uk is and how bad are the people over there, well its their right to insult the country they are working in, Locals love to hear expats bitching about them, yeah and qataries should only speak arabic over there, it's really crazy to Learn English and try to understand the locals and get to know them better.
The guy raises some valid points. I'm all for equality and equal rights. I think if people from Qatar want to visit the U.K. for extended periods, then they should also go through an all day health check, all day finger-printing process, police check, wait months for their ID and driver's license, need an exit visa to leave, get treated unfairly by the Londoners for not being British.
Oh, and let's not forget that you will need to find and pay for, a British sponsor before entering the country. Fair's fair, right?
Or maybe it would be easier to get your driver to drive you to the UK Agency Border in Qatar for Citizens.
I guess my QL fellows gonna change the world! yeaahhhhhh!!!
Yes, good point. And since Qataris can obtain visa on arrival in these countries, I guess you are also happy for these people, along with many others, to enter Qatar with no visa:
Egypt, Kenya, Morocco, Uganda, Bangladesh, Jordan, Lebanon, Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Yemen...
excuse me ? I need an exit permit to leave qatar...
People's power probably, but again the UK's are nervous lots to some extend.
I wonder what other international laws we can try and change through Qatar Living?
Lol...get a UK passport & get rid off
different countries different rules.
theleo also advise them to invade others land and wealth
yes my frnd you are right
Dear Anonymous Qatari,
I'll see what i can do and will reply soon
Regards
i also support you
it is illogical to return the KOHINOOR to INDIA - BY UK PRIME MINISTER
hence it is illogical to give any visas to qatari on arrival in UK - BY UK PRIME MINISTER (MY GUESS WORK)
for them every thing is illogical..hence dont expect much...why not try lebanon
Thelonius has a point, waiting for OP's response.
Thelonius: you forgot the Kafil!
ooops somebody got ooops
Anonymous Qatari: Cry to your own govt abt that.
Why should Britain change anything about its migration laws?
And about the so called "generosity"
Well l call it cheer stupidity.
STRONGLY SUPPORT. uK CITIZENS ARE ENJOYING LOT MORE FACILITIES HERE
Usually, there is reciprocal agreement between countries, when one offers a visa on arrival to another country's citizens. Qatar has to ask the UK authorities for the same concession.
I support your call for Equal Treatment !!
no but Elizabeth would
Anonymous Qatari.. Do you really think that the Qatar living members can change the British Visa Rules??