ToastMasters Club for Urdu speaking

Dear All,

it is been quite long.. if you still listen. Urdu Toastmasters Club is formed. See the links below

http://www.gulf-times.com/culture/238/details/425193/qatar-gets-its-first-urdu-toastmasters-club

http://www.qatar-tribune.com/viewnews.aspx?n=6E7F078A-8F60-48E5-9FC0-2B2D5A8D98E3&d=20150205

Ramzan Mubarik to all toastmaster club members

What happend to Urdu Toastmasters Club? We need to revive this..

iftekhar ji thanks for the info bt i am afraid i will not be able to join.. i have some assignments for my studies coming up..n i hardly get time for studies..i want to utilize my weekends in studies ..as in week days my office hours doenot permit me to have time for studies

i will try to find time to come..will email u once i get the permission frm home

I very much agree with Mathboy, when you join a club to learn something you learn it by sharing your experience with peoples from different countries.

People should attend upcoming PTM meeting. However, I would recommend joining more diverse and less exclusive toastmaster clubs. Largely one nationality-dominant clubs, occupation-based clubs do not well coincide with the idea of learning and practicing communication skills.

Friends especially Blue rose, we are going to have our next meeting on saturday 25th September. You all are invited just send me mail at [email protected]

Urdu Toastmaster kahen wo lafz tu nahe jo 'shirminda-e-maa'ni' nahe ho sakta!

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i liked the meeting..it was good one indeed..and the speeches was wonderful..new people n new things to learn

thanks..i will confirm

Yes you can come and attend our meeting, just pls confirm by send an email to [email protected] or call me at 5300718,

we have also female members and they are our stars as our these female members won several contests,

I am sure you will enjoy,

kind regards,

thanks math bro

ok urdu speakers club is still an idea..

i am going to mail that alnoor toast masters..bt am afraid i will not have a company of my bother there? coz its only for ladies..n am very silent person..i will ask my friend to join it with me..if she agrees then only i can join..

mr.iftikhar please confirm soon if i can come with my bother to attend that meeting..its hard to convince him..

BR sis, you can certainly visit the PTM club meeting as a guest with your brother.

PTM is a different club and it has got nothing to do with Urdu Toastmasters, which is still at idea level, for which we are waiting for rbakali's update.

I would also recommend you Al-Noor Toastmasters Ladies Club, which I believe is exclusively for ladies. This club I feel will be better than PTM as it has more cultural diversity. Please see this thread for more information:

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/442380

Mr. iftikhar i would like to attend this meeting with my brother which is on 27th March 2010 to know abt toast masters club or urdu speakers club..any one can come? or we need to register our names pirror to the meeting?

Sorry I forget to mention Timing, meeting will start at 1830 hrs

Dear All,

We PTM (Professional Toastmaster Club) are going to have our meeting on 27th March 2010 at Gulf Paradise Hotel. You all are welcome there

Iftikhar Ul Haq

VP Education

Professional Toastmaster Club

Riyaz bakali saheb, mujhe bhi add karlen. saqt zarurat hai mujhe..kahan aana hai kab?

maddz, we discussed this issue up there..

Hello,

I'm Muddassir Hussain from Karachi, Pakistan...

What would be the aim of this toastmaster group?

I mean most of the time we join such clubs is to enhance our public speaking capabilities...Of course URDU is widely spoken and is a sweet language but will that help you in your work places?

Just a thought...

ifti75, Thank you so much. It is an opportunity for all of us to get familiarize with Toastmaster concept and learn how the club functions.

I encourage everyone here to attend the upcoming meetings as invited by ifti75.

Dear All, it was very interesting and i really likes this idea and I m sure Bro.Rbakali working on it. I know there is a lot of work required to start it as so many valid point were highlighted by hrqureshi , tooba and qaiser.

I suggest you all to please attend one of our meetings of toastmasters, there you will get a better idea of toastmaster club which will help you to run Urdu Toastmaster club. New club started by Professional Toastmaster that is PEC toastmaster club will be having their first meeting on 19th of this month, whereas PTM is going to have meeting on 27th march saturday at shaterabbas resturant, so you all are welcome there. please confirm your attendance by sending mail to me, [email protected],

you can visit our website also that is www.ptmqatar.com

Ek khamooshi hay her sawal kay jawab main!

rbakali, Is there any update on this?

Dot.Com, Toastmaster concept is to develop public speaking, communication and leadership skills. Members are assigned projects and sometimes asked to speak on their feet as well as play different roles which complement each other for the purpose of effective communication.

This club will be unique as all the activities will be conducted in Urdu.

Interested? It will be a good experience.

k yeh toastMasters Club hain konsi bala?

iss ka purpose kiya hain?

koi meri help karsakta hain???

PS: Weblinks pe mein jaa kar parr nahi, its take too long to read, isliye plz summary :)

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A lot of lovemaking can unblock a stuffy nose! Dr. Choc

Come on Mathboy, ab aisa bhi nahin h :)

rbakali, That's amazing. Thank you so much for taking this great and important initiative.

By the way you will find me equivalent of 5 when you see me! This becomes more obvious in a party when food is served! I have to put a weight-loss programme in place...

You are more than five... so we are done.

I spoke to a senior toastmaster and he is preparing for the first meeting.

We will hear soon.

rbakali, ab sirf 2 bando ke kami hay..

lawa and Anaum, Thanks for making us reach very close to our target number of potential members.

It is going to be a unique and great learning experience for all of us.

Here we go..

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

11- itsnavid

12- consciouseffort

13- consciouseffort's Sahib

14- azharm

15- hrkureshi

16- NWTech

17- lawa

18- Anaum

as well

AOA to everyone well it is good that u all r thinking about urdu put my name in the list i hope it will be good expe

Great going guys, keep it up!

getting there.

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

11- itsnavid

12- consciouseffort

13- consciouseffort's Sahib

14- azharm

15- hrkureshi

16- NWTech

great idea, please count me in

Qais, Punjabi fits better in number 3! Punjabi has an option to coin terms.. take two words, hybrid and make a new one!

Thanks sister Tooba for such nice comments about me.

(TM Qaisar Amin)

Thanks Irf77 for confirming. I will make sure that you will be properly introduced in our PTM Club.

Mathboy,

I liked the idea of two-fold approach by using the Toastmasters way to promote Urdu Toastmasters Club.

I would say that we can make it open for all those who wants to learn cultural aspects of URDU and ENGLISH. Once the club is formed I think that people will blend in, I assure you all, its going to be an excellent experience.

I don't know who said this but I think you all will like it.

If you want to praise your God say it in Arabic.

If you want to express your love do it in URDU.

If you want to insult some one do it in English. (short and Effective)

"Welcome to Urdu Toastmasters"

Qais730

Well I personnaly don't know anybody from Toastmaster-Urdu, but it was announced in a social gathering that it is launched, don't know the authenticity.

tooba24, I liked your comments about English as a language of communication in club as this is what we need in our professional lives. I have a common viewpoint. However, on the personal front, I view it differently; we need to promote Urdu language as well as develop our skills in Urdu. We have taken Urdu for granted. How many people we see around who can speak and express themselves well in Urdu… unfortunately, not many…

I don't comprehend why Urdu Toastmaster will not be well-suited for the development of both public speaking and leadership skills. No doubt Urdu is not a language of science and technology; it is subordinate to many richer languages when it comes to terseness and epigrammatic force. Urdu, as we see today seems less outwardly polished, but that does not mean it is crude inwardly. It has clear expressions, fineness, and if used skillfully gives speakers a unrivaled power of packing their thoughts into the smallest possible space in writing and speaking vis-à-vis English which is remarkable for its power of succinctness.

We shall take what entire toastmaster concept offers and adopt it to our own purpose. A two-fold approach, toastmasters-way and promotion of Urdu will establish Urdu Toastmaster club as a classic for Urdu-speakers. English clubs and Urdu clubs are not mutually exclusive. I encourage everyone to join English Toastmaster club but Urdu Toastmaster is certainly a special one which may not fall in everyone’s specific province.

Asalam-o-alaikom!

Thanks Mathboy for suggesting my name. I am available for any kind of support that is required. I am part of Toastmasters activities since 2004 and will be more than happy to provide further assistance / information.

Dear IRF77,

I am sorry for not getting back to you regarding Toastmasters club. I am a member of two toastmasters clubs

namely Qatar Toastmasters and Professional Toastmasters.

Please call me if you can or send me e-mail so we can discuss further. I will be more that happy to invite all those are interested. You can attend our meeting as a guest on 20th Feb 2010 at Shattar Abbas near Rameez, Jareer book Store.

Please give me your names who will be coming so i can arrange accordingly.

My E-mail is [email protected]

x

Sister Tooba,

Belive you are correct, there are 32 toast masters club in Qatar, see link below

http://reports.toastmasters.org/findaclub/searchResults.cfm?displayAll=1&ZipCodeProximity=&ClubName=&ClubNumber=&Status=&District=&Place=&Address=&ZipCode=&MeetTime=&Monday=0&Tuesday=0&Wednesday=0&Thursday=0&Friday=0&Saturday=0&Sunday=0&Country=Qatar&State=&City=&myRadius=0&showDList=1

Do not think anyone of it is Urdu.

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

Dear Qais, count me in for attending 20th Feb meeting. Thanks for details

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

For all those who are new to Toastmaster fraternity I would like to appreciate our club member (TM Qasir Amin)he is a star speaker of PTM Club....and will be able to help you out in Urdu Toastmaster as well

rbakali bro, my support and help is always there for my Pakistani brothers and sisters but lets not include my name in the list of members ...the reason for that is ,I have so many commitments with PWA activities and being an officer of PTM club my hands are full...I might not be able to do justice with my role in Urdu Toastmasters so my appologies for that...but I can motivate other Urdu speaking friends of mine to approach you people who are not a part of PTM or any other Toastmasters club and join you in the Urdu Toastmaster Club

with regard to the comments given by Malang on already existing Urdu Toastmaster club....I am quite (99%) sure there is none ...but let me re-check for that (1% doubt) with few high ranking TM officers in Qatar and get back to you!!

Seems like good progress, keep it up team and keep us informed, we can join the club hopefully soon.

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

Tooba24 and Malang are you in ?

Shall we add you in the list ?

Dear Malang,

If there exist a TM Urdu club it can give us a jump start. Please give us a clue to who do we check with ?

If am not wrong Toastmaster (Urdu) already exist here in doha, and it was announced atleat 2-3 years back in a gathering, that it is officially launched. So better to check it first.

Tooba24 I am with you and do understand since you are experienced TM.

Rightly said that it may not serve the purpose fully.... let us take it "half full" and say it will serve the purpose upto certain extent.

Once we are in; please motivate us for English club also.

Rbakali bro,Properly chosen words, timmings, body language and expressions are all about speaking...its all about polishing ur speaking skills and as you said speaking sense has to be in the right dimension but Leadership skills are totally different ...

In the TM activity Leadership skills are developed when you are assigned certain tasks which comes in your domain... leadership track is another responsibility in Toastmaster activity and I feel Urdu Toastmaster will not serve the purpose fully to enhance both speaking & leadership qualities

The facts tooba24 motioned are perfectly fits in our daily business routines as most of the time we have to communicate in English.

However leadership is another skill which need to be polished. Leadership is not only speaking but speaking sense in right way with properly chosen words, timings, body language, expressions etc.

By having Urdu will certainly enhance the circle then someone may motivate us to go for English also.

Its a good idea to form Urdu Toastmaster club...you may contact the Toastmaster International directly or you can do it through one of our local Toastmasters club such as Professional Toastmasters,Pakshama TMs & Pakistani Toastmaster clubs....I my self is a club officer in PTM and I can help you to find out the same....I think there are chances to begin an Urdu Toastmasters club as there is one TM club here called (Qtel Arabic Toastmasters) and all the proceedings are done in Arabic there so I believe similarly you can do it in Urdu...

Toastmaster activity is all about polishing your speaking skills and to communicate well in public.Now dont take me wrong but to be very honest most of us need a lot more practice to communicate in English rather than in Urdu. This doesn't make Urdu any less significant and I feel proud to communicate with my people in my language but when we are living in Bilingual society then whether we like it or not English becomes our basic requirement.

Being Pakistani and some Indians we speak Urdu fluently and to speak publicaly in Urdu language doesn't seems like a chalange to me?? whereas in English it is and when it comes to intereact with other people and all other activities such as competitions/workshops etc everything is conducted in English ...so I feel we need to practice our speaking skills in English more than in Urdu.

Btw wish u all the best & regards to all.

rbakali, I agree with hrkureshi. We need to contact Toastmaster International directly to find out whether they will allow the Urdu Toastmaster club. We don't need any other club in Qatar to facilitate this. Please ask them this specific question and let us know what they have said. In case of no from them, we may still go ahead and form an Urdu Club under a different banner.

Yousri, I will update you soon.

It is good news that we need only 20 members to start this club.

We are in short of five.

Thanks for your support hrkureshi !!!

Mathboy, any updates about next meeting of any other toastmaster club? Se we can visit any of them as a guest.

The minimum number of members required is 20. To get the club registered follow the link below

http://www.toastmasters.org/Members/MembersFunctionalCategories/AboutTI/BringToastmastersintoyour/Community_1.aspx

or you can email TMI directly by sending your queries at [email protected]

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

11- itsnavid

12- consciouseffort

13- consciouseffort's Sahib

14- azharm

15- hrkureshi

I can imagine the Hussn-e-Yousuf qisa, when ladies prepare for cutting apple instead cutting apple they cut their fingures.....

So let us see what will happen ?????? when u will entire the hall.

Any how you are most welcome....

Thanks for the detailed information, which may set proper guidelines for this proposed club.

We do understand that 'Toastmasters' gathering follow the rules and regulations so do this club would follow... and so on.

I had some discussion with senior toastmasters and they suggested to gather 30 members and we started to gather members here.

a member "mathboy" asked two question one related to approval from Toastmasters international and other about no. of initial members. If you kindly answer these queries.

At end of the day objective remains same Leadership and communication.

Hello everyone. I'm quite amazed by the enthusiasm all of you have for public speaking. But as far as Toastmasters business is concerned, there are certain things that you ought to know.

If you want to inaugurate a 'Toastmasters' club, firstly you need to register yourself with the Toastmasters International. Everything that is carried out in the meetings is done according to the guidelines and rules provided to the registered clubs by the TMI. That includes just about everything from the sitting arrangement to every word spoken by individuals present in the gathering. We can't not deviate from the rules. Now here is the glitch, as per the rules and my knowledge, so far urdu language is not registered with TMI And that includes Arabic language as well, which is a movement still in the pipeline. No club, including PTM, has the authority to take such an initiative.Therefore, legally you can not inaugurate an Urdu Toastmasters club without the approval of the headquarters. If you must, you can begin an urdu public speaking forum with any name but you can not use the platform of Toastmasters for this purpose.

On the 100th meeting, three new clubs were announced, i.e, Pak Shama TMs, PTM Advanced, Pakistani TMs Club and a separate one for the children of TMs from the age 12-18 called Pak Gavel Club. But they were, and shall be carried out in English.

Having said that, I'm in no way trying to discourage you. All of you are welcome to visit TMs meetings any time you want. I assure you that it is a great learning opportunity for everyone.

For further information please check http://www.toastmasters.org/

what a great idea, ALLAH bless u

can I ?

join

Shukria .... mujeh commit karnay say pehlay time & day pata karna hai .... Saheb ji ka pata nahi un ki apni choice hai ... yahan kai aisay naam nazar arahay hain jinhain parh kar lag raha hai k agar hamari tashreef awari hogai to kafi logon ko JHATKA lag jaye ga hahahahhaha & I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE EXPRESSIONS :)

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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

11- itsnavid

12- consciouseffort

13- consciouseffort's Sahib

We shall keep every one informed about the activities.

Are you in CE? Bring your Saheb too...

I need to know the time & date of meeting :) Idea is great ... we need to speak in Urdu as much as possible as we all have to communicate in our surroundings in foreign languages & at least I miss my beautiful national language :)

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CONFUSE ............ if you cannot convince!

irf77, There are many Toastmaster clubs in town. You can join any one of them. I recommend to join clubs with more cultural diversity; avoid clubs which are exclusive in nature.

You can hold a membership of two toastmaster clubs.

Here is the link for info:

http://www.qatartoastmasters.net/

We are eleven now...

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

11- itsnavid

What is the status of english toastmasters?

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

Please put my Name in also i would like to join it.

For the formation of the Toastmasters Urdu club we still need 20 more members ....

Dear mathboy,

I shall check with senior Toastmasters.

rbakali, I have two things in mind about the club:

1. We need to have a confirmation from Toastmaster International (US) that we can from a group where the communication will be in Urdu.

2. I am not quite sure that 30 members is an absolute requirement. We may need to recheck this. I am a former toastmaster and have been to many toastmaster clubs in Qatar and other countries where number of members for most of the clubs were between 15-25.

Allah ka banday...i understand but there is no other way to ask u..u know that.

sorry yousri bro..

Allah ki bandi fikar met kero.

I will tell you details after some days.

Relax.

(Lets keep every thread stay away from our personal chit chat, semjha kero)

yousri bro..where u are going? n y? for how long? n when will be back in qatar? (kuch b bataya hi nahi ap nay) :(

Just to confirm, I am also interested in English club, is it all right to join both,

any recommendation on good English toastmasters?

ALLAH HU AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

6- sfd

7- aijaz

8- haider

9- Shafiq

10- akhtar

few members of Pakistani writers forum were planning for this and we arranged some meetings with PTM. If you are already working on it, we will happily join you. Pls. Count sfd, aijaz haider , and Shafiq akhtar---.

sfd

Waalekum Assalam Quresh...

do we count you in ?

heh rbakali, sorry, I don't speak urdu. I'm already a member of another toastmasters club that I attend regularly :-)

hi

Assalam waleqoom

Stay committed to your decisions, but stay flexible in your approach.

Sure this move requires commitment.

Shall we count you notnapster ???

To being with it is "Toastmaster". Before you all commit to join, you should realize that all clubs meet twice a month. So you will need to ensure that you are free in the evenings of the toastmasters meetings.

I shall check with Senior ToastMasters about it.... What I understood it was 30 to start with.

rbakali, Is it possible to form the club with members less than 30?

It has been pretty good response so far.... I believe we will touch figure of 30 soon.

Yousri, There is no condition whatsoever. Toastmaster clubs generally conduct two meetings (2 hours) a month. If you are leaving for long interval, then obviously it won't be beneficial for you as the essence of the club is to attend the meetings and participate.

Mathboy, is it compulsory that those who join this new Urdu Club should be available here at doha all the time? Because i will be leaving next month, inshAllah.

(Please check your yahoo inbox)

I will send a message to all the members of Urdu Group and Guzergah-e-Khayal to inform them about this wonderful idea and ask them to join.

Great.. We are 5 already. I have a friend (Qler) who is a member of Qatar and Professional Toastmaster clubs. I did talk to him, he is interested. so the list goes:

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

5. qais730

1- rbakali

2- mathboy

3- ghazalz

4- irf77

Nice, I would like to be part of it, is this only for urdu speaker as I am planning to enhance in both urdu and English

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I'm also interested!

Thanks for the idea mathboy, I have posted it on Pakistani Group.

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/915657

Thanks rbakali. It is an interesting news and great initiative.

Anything which is about Urdu I am part of it. So count me in please.

I suggest if you also could post this thread on Pakistan and Urdu Group, it will get attention of many Urdu-speakers.

thats great news...thanks for sharings