So they finally succeeded

flor1212
By flor1212

So they finally succeeded in convincing the Forum Admins to implement the "group member only can post on certain group". So how about non-member who just want to make comments as guests? When the proposal for another group wherein a newbie can post in his/her own vernacular, it was hardly lobbied by the group administrator to the Forum Admins not to approved. Is this fair?

May I ask the opinion of the other groups, do you approved this rule that only your member in your group can post in that particular group? Is the Forum Admins sending good/right or biassed signal?

Good morning evryone!

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 10:45
flor1212

but again, it was apparently rejected by the admins because of the lobbying of the existing group!

Anyway, there's no harm in trying again! Thanks for the GOOD advise! Lol! Hope they are reading and monitoring!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 10:40
deepb

Yes, flor you can make a different Pinoy group. That's what I have been telling all along... Make another one and be sure you are fair to everyone and don't kick out people or lock/delete threads in that one even if it's not in agreement with you.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 10:30
flor1212

read again and read carefully!

BTW, Is Karaili group another Indian group? How many Indian groups here?

Does it mean that we can propose another Pinoy group? Just asking, I'm really bad!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 10:15
Rating: 4/5
deepb

Thats much better, atleast you admit you had a hidden agenda. We as members can't do much about it if they won't listen can we? Think of QL as a product, as they earn a revenue from advertisements. If you don't like it, stop visiting and join the competition. See if you can get some of your friends along as well. When the revenue gets hit, they might make changes or they might just say let it go to hell. That's your choice as a consumer.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 10:03
flor1212

this thread. It's the motives behind the request for a "member only" unilateral rule.

Precisely my point, how can I now comment in that group if I can't access it? I want to re-join but since I am perceived to be "not a friend", they reject my re-membership by a 4-3 vote! Yes, you are right, this is not a democratic site. I am bad but definitely not all the time! I think there are worse than me! But tolerance is a good thing to practice, I'm used to it because of the nature of my work!

By Visper• 8 Jul 2010 09:55
Visper

"panggagalaiti" hard one Tito Flor.. Coz i am no tagalog.. :-/

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 09:52
deepb

Flor, just because I don't agree with you, it doesn't mean I'm an admin or I'm keeping a personal vendetta with you.

Why are you going off-topic about some post inside a private group now? Why can't you stick to your "Always Stay on Topic" sig? Or are you interested in joining our hijackers group now?

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:45
flor1212

this word "panggagalaiti" and tell her this thread of mine and the issue regarding "member only"! That word is not a a very common word. But still I won't be surprised if she gives you a different perspective if she doesn't take everything in consideration!

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:40
anonymous

flor actually I got it translated by a Filipina, she does know your language quite well :)

Ofcourse I don't know the intentions and nobody really can.

Personally I think he is a snob but he doesn't bother me so I don't really care.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:36
flor1212

you showed your true color. Are you an admin?

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:34
flor1212

you really don't know our vernacular. That's what it seems, but if you analyze the words use, you will see the hidden message! But of course you won't know it, you are not a Filipino! Just wait, it will be reworded! Just as I said, an HONEST translation and interpretation, including the timing of post and the situation! He knows it and I tell you, he is now nervous about that "mistake"!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 09:34
deepb

Yes, because they are the admins of a "private group". They are free to do what they want as long as they follow QL rules, which are enforced by QL admins who are again part of a "private website". This is not a communist website, that everyone has equal shares and equal rights.

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:29
anonymous

Oh comeon.. That thread is about what happens if someone dies here in Qatar. It can be useful for someone someday though not desirable. He is not wishing for anyone to die.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:29
flor1212

so you are suggesting that admins should play favoritism? So the next move is to delete "unfriendly" comments whether good or bad, but just because the person is not a friend? WOW!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 09:24
Rating: 3/5
deepb

flor, you being an old member must realize that groups positions are not obtained by popular vote. The people who created it and people selected by them are the admins. So there is no deserving or undeserving. If you create your own group, you would be free to control who posts in your group as well. Upto you if you want to make your admins by popular vote or just select your close friends.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:24
flor1212

sometimes just don't use your eyes to see!

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:19
anonymous

Which thread flor. Can you give me the link?

I would like to read that, have some fun with that ;)

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:16
flor1212

Qler dead (for whatever reason)?

The latest thread of the group manager is implying that! Of course you won't understand because it is in the vernacular! Now tell me people, is he even worth to be the chairman of that group!

I call the Forum Mods to lock that thread and have an honest translation and interpretation and you'll see the "evil motive" behind that thread! Talking about the GUIDELINES for banning members? WAS!

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:13
anonymous

Straighten myself out??

LOL.. That is never going to happen ;)

If you keep your private differences private, nobody will comment on them now, will they?

Thanks rMs ;)

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 09:13
deepb

Hypocrites are so self-righteously funny. Funny how they want to comment in private groups without following rules, but wants to control who comments in a thread posted in the public part of the forum, when it's not in agreement with them.

By rMs_000• 8 Jul 2010 09:08
rMs_000

Chuky cheese group, nice name!! ;)

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:07
flor1212

I already did your advise, but wait, why should I follow your advise? Straightened yourself first before advising me!

MODS, please lock this thread, the GOOD Qlers are starting to come-out again!

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:04
anonymous

This thread is about your personal problems with the admins of filexpat so how is commenting on that diverting from the topic :-/

Start a new group, call it whatever you want.. chucky cheese group or whatever and set the condition that tagalog is allowed. There you go :)

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 09:03
flor1212

it needs to be locked.

Please MODS, can you locked this thread!

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 09:02
anonymous

"Friendliest site in Qatar"

Does anybody knows which one?

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 08:52
deepb

Lol flor, how can it be personal when it's posted on a public forum?

You want to control what happens in the private group, but can't follow their rules. Heights of hypocrisy.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:47
flor1212

can you list your most? No one is stopping you from posting, but to go on personal things, that's too much. Review your comment, you are poking your nose on something personal between me and the group admins which is not at all justified!

They keep on saying about scammers and trolls, are we all like that?

They talk about "hijackers" and old members doing troll activities, are those not present in the main forum? The solution is STRENGTHENING the moderation power and not preventing Qlers from voicing-out opinions whether in agreement or opposed to a particular subject!

Just like now, there are two threads I want to comment (and maybe others also) but what to do, since they practice favoritism (only those who agrees with them "all the time") is good and those who sometime disagree with them are bad?

Check the records, nobody's perfect!

By rMs_000• 8 Jul 2010 08:36
rMs_000

Cos that particular move of QL effected all the users unlike restricted to group members, all the users signed the petition. Since this move effect the groups, group admins and other members who wish to comment in the thread created in the group, they spitted their opinion. That's the reason I suggested about 'POLL'!!!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 08:29
deepb

You are voicing out your opinion, I'm voicing out mine, flor. Or am I only allowed a voice when I'm in agreement with yours? I have no clue what happened to your group suggestion. So I can't comment about that till you explain.

RMS, that was a request from the members and it was clearly one-sided. I see most people over here agreeing with this move against a handful that oppose this move on the thread here. Feel free to suggest a poll, and the QL admin can decided what to do with your suggestion.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:24
flor1212

of the admins involved? The way you talked, it seems that you the Owner or disguised as one?

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:22
flor1212

"poll" was mentioned by him first!

By rMs_000• 8 Jul 2010 08:20
rMs_000

Users has created revolutions in QL. Ckeck out this thread http://www.qatarliving.com/node/835962 . Now what?

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:20
flor1212

just like now, this unilateral move, we follow, but of course we voice-out our opinions. Are you suggesting we gagged our mouth and stop commenting?

I suggested for a new group, but they picture me the wrong way! So what to do now, at least there's SPEED, PITSTOP and others who understand my view unlike those who goes personal tirades!

PLS STAY ON TOPIC!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 08:16
deepb

Why should there be a poll? QL is not democratic, it's a private website, with rules left to the owners and admins to decide. If you don't like it, move on. Isn't that what you keep advising the rest of us when we complaint about Qatar anyway?

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:13
flor1212

who are in favor of this unilateral move?

By rMs_000• 8 Jul 2010 08:12
rMs_000

Indians group? Do we have a group? I dint know.. ;=P

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 08:10
Rating: 2/5
deepb

The group admins formed the group and hence they do own it in a manner of speaking. Thats why its called a group. If you want to be part of the group, you will have to follow what the admins layout for you.

You can either be part of the herd and follow their rules or make a new one as a leader or just stay out of it all as a lone wolf. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 08:09
anonymous

rMs who is the admin for Indian group ;)

By rMs_000• 8 Jul 2010 08:07
rMs_000

Why don't we create a poll for the group admins? Let them decide who all should comment in their group. Let's be democratic! ;=)

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 08:05
flor1212

but if I have some good ideas I can contribute, why can't I? Because there are times that I contradict their positions doesn't mean that I am always like that.

There are a lot of like me in these forums and yet you won't see me posting FOUL language and yet, tolerance is still practice in the main forum.

You can't stay "good" all the time, if one see something wrong, we have to voice-out our opposition (even sometimes in nasty way (as long as it stays with the limit of the guidelines). But the group admins with this action did get overboard by assuming they own the the group like the QL admins own QL and imposed a unilateral move?

By anonymous• 8 Jul 2010 07:58
anonymous

Blowing things way out of proportion, typical QL :)

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 07:57
Rating: 4/5
deepb

flor, you are not a newbie. I'm guessing you got on the nerves of the admin in the filipino group and they won't let you back in? Form another group, maybe tagalog speakers only or whatever you feel comfortable with.

Yes sometimes newbies need to wait to post their two cents in groups, depending on the admin. Everything need not be handed to everyone on a silver platter. Meanwhile, they can post their two cents on main forum without any problems.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 07:55
flor1212

a Philippine visa (or anything about our country) which is meant for all Pinoys, you mean only group members can participate? What about those in reading mode suddenly have good things to contribute but are not yet member, need to request membership and wait for one month to post his comment?

Same with other groups of other nationality! Maybe in the Indian group, once you request, in an instant, you are a member and you can readily post, is that the way QLIG is run?

The QL admins should look deeper on the motive and intent of this action. Even in other major forums, there are GUEST comment and accepted.

What is needed is to strengthened the MODERATION power of the group admins such that they can remove suspected unwanted post that violates the rules and guidelines of the group forum as well as the main forum's.

By flor1212• 8 Jul 2010 07:47
flor1212

can I speak Tagalog in the main forum? Can I post a general topic in Tagalog in the main forum. Can I comment in Tagalog in the main forum?.

You are making it personal Nomerci, same as those Group Admins! Stay on the essence of the topic, why, you lose any reason to debate? At least, answer my early queries and stop going around the bush!

Do you know how long it take to be a member of that group, does it mean that a newbie need to wait for that time just to post his/her two cents in the vernacular! I really could not gasp your reasoning!

By deepb• 8 Jul 2010 07:46
deepb

I think its fair that only members of the groups can post over there. If it is meant for all QL members then it should be posted in main forum instead of a group.

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 23:47
SPEED

... how does this works for you :-D

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 23:45
anonymous

Hehe speed.. No.. I may have to request membership for Pakistan group as I relate to a few topics there but that's going to be the only addition I think :)

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 23:44
SPEED

list :-)

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 23:42
SPEED

you are looking at the benefit for your Group only which I respect but we should look at overall situation ...

Anyhow, as I said, I am not going to bother much about Groups anymore if this continue...

By PITSTOP• 7 Jul 2010 23:42
PITSTOP

I think it doesn't make sense to close the forums. Sometimes I might want to read and comment on topics in groups that I am not a member in. Does that mean that I have to join all the groups on QL to participate? huh!

By Happy Happy• 7 Jul 2010 23:39
Happy Happy

...whyteknight, no logic my friend. I'll be Ok...:)

Enjoy..

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 23:36
anonymous

Comeon Happy, you want to comment on those groups but aren't willing to click a simple join tab. This is ridiculous.

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 23:34
SPEED

and not let that person to post anything in that particular Group.... Basically it is favoritism nothing else...

As I said, they have to take their decision back else face the reality. Like any Company their employees are their assets, similarly for QL the members are it's assets...

By Happy Happy• 7 Jul 2010 23:32
Happy Happy

...KHATTAK, I want to able to comment on your post about the Matchmaker on the Pakistani Group.

...Omeima, I want to continue my discussion with you on the Arts Group.

...The Mods have decided to shackle me. If you still care at all, notify me on email when you open the Groups back for the rest of us.

Soon the site will be dead.

All the best.

Thanks.

Bye.

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 17:27
anonymous

Prince Harry must be allowed to comment everywhere ;)

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 17:25
anonymous

LOL

idea of Tom and Dick, getting name on QL

By Xena• 7 Jul 2010 17:21
Xena

not about the OP starter wanting attention, but about the other things you said...

The original reason for groups... for those of you who haven't been here very long, was so that people with similar interests could get together on one board and chat.... the idea wasn't that it would be come a free for all. I wanted this idea to be implemented years ago...

What is the point of joining a group, if every Tom, Dick or Harry can post to it anyway? Groups should be exclusive and admins to those groups have control... Unfortunately, you will get those who will be biased to other members... thats how it is unforunately, groups are not the main forum (ie: a free for all)

I welcome this move by QL - its been a long time in coming:-)

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 17:18
anonymous

flor it's been what over 6 months now? Get over it..

I post a new thread in Indian group if I am looking for only Indians' opinions or if the subject matter deals exclusively with India and I post it on main forum if it is something to which everyone can relate.

I don't really know what the problem is. I don't think I had to ever beg for membership for any group that I joined, just one click and it was done. It is a bit of an inconvenience to join all the groups here but at most it's a 5 minutes job and you don't have to pay anything so if you feel so strongly about commenting in every group, just take out 5 minutes of your time.

Maybe there is a membership requirement for some groups but then so be it. With a dozen trolls a day appearing on QL, it's better to have such requirements.

By rMs_000• 7 Jul 2010 17:17
rMs_000

Are you stuck with words? B-)

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 17:10
anonymous

Yes nom

till now, i've applied for Filipino's, Russians, Indian's , Pakistani's, and my most favorite Kairalite's.

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 17:03
nomerci

rms, look, I just stated my opinion in general here. I really do not give a hoot if I can post in groups or not.

BUT, this thread is really about the fil expat group, that the thread starter now will not be able to butt in any more.And that upsets him enough to stir up controversy on the main thread. Not that that will get him anywhere, but heck...he can whinge a little more.

That's what this is REALLY about.

By jpa• 7 Jul 2010 17:03
jpa

Very very bad decision by Qatar Living owners. It will only serve the interests of the group administrators not the interest of QL owners.

Surprisingly, it comes at the time when a lot of QL members are wishing for the old QL.

The self destruct program of QL seems very effective.

By rMs_000• 7 Jul 2010 16:59
rMs_000

The situation is same. When i open a thread in any group, I want ALL the QL members to respond for it not only for selected people..

And one more thing, In any group which has got 300+ or 500+ members, only 5 or 6 members in that group will be active. so the comments or opinions in each thread opened in any group lessens which makes the group in active and finally dead!!

By Happy Happy• 7 Jul 2010 16:54
Happy Happy

.....Mods,

....This is Qatar Living Community, not Qatar Living Sub-Groups. Each Group to their own is a bad idea.

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 16:52
nomerci

lol rms, true...there would be more fights to win, more mud to be slung...entertainment for sure.

BUT, see , the situation here is a bit different. The person starting this thread only had his own dilemma in mind, nothing else.

By rMs_000• 7 Jul 2010 16:46
Rating: 4/5
rMs_000

The threads opening in various groups like QLIG or QLPG or QLVG are NOT limited to Indians and India or Pakistanis and Pakistan or Europe and Europeans!!

I say u must just not concentrate only in main forums. Ohh C'mon, you are missing a lot in QL then !!

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 16:45
nomerci

Next will be dot.com being honorary member of all groups.

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 16:41
anonymous

a stupid move

wats next???

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 16:41
nomerci

rms, so? This is an Indian group, they want only Indians, I see nothing wrong with that. See, people joining are groups because they have the same interest.Why should they allow non members to post?

And to post in general, there is the main forum, is that not enough?

By Happy Happy• 7 Jul 2010 16:36
Happy Happy

.....Mods, pointless move. Very bad.

By rMs_000• 7 Jul 2010 16:34
rMs_000

Don't forget that there are few guidelines for each group. For example, QLIG accepts membership requests ONLY from Indians!!! So how can others comment on the threads created in that particular group since the membership request wont get approved?

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 16:33
drmana

You are absolutely right Speed, joining any group just for the sake of posting comments would be ridiculous.

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 16:28
nomerci

Speed, why would have to beg? why not simply ask /request membership like everybody else does?

I mean seriously, most clubs, gyms etc around the world, Toastmasters, rotary and so on, request membership?

Why not clubs/groups on QL?

It is not like you have to be invited by a member.

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 16:27
SPEED

on QL to keep his doors open for discussions on different topics?

Sorry I am not one who will beg for membership every time I feel a topic is posted needs my comments! I may have difference of opinion and may be due to my negative comment the Group manager cancel (or other way KICK me out) from his Group.

Take my words.... this will not last long :-) else QL will slowly die at least from discussion forum !!

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 15:12
Rating: 2/5
nomerci

Flor 1. "newbie" can post in

"vernacular" once membership is approved, as simple as that.

2. "newbie" can join the discussion in "vernacular" once "newbie" is approved for membership.

3. posts on the main forum in "vernacular" can be avoided by following available guidelines.

4. Banning speed of the Mods depends on the weather. Hot > fast , Cold >slow.

Now, don't tell me that "newbie" and "Oldie "kabayan can't understand those points.

And, you are a very niggly little man.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 14:39
flor1212

maybe you'll hear the whole story. Good afternoon!

By somwerNdmiddle• 7 Jul 2010 14:27
somwerNdmiddle

i'm asking you flor, for sure the admins won't answer here or ever

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 14:25
anonymous

I volunteer to be the manager of Filexpat group. I will be totally unbiased as I won't understand a thing that's being written :D

Darude can I pay back those 20 QR in instalments of 50 Dirhams :(

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 14:22
flor1212

they know the reason!

And beside, anyone can apply for membership but subject for approval by the admins of the group. But disapproval should not be arbitrary or for no apparent reason. Opposing iew is not a GOOD reason not to accept someone. A healthy discussion needs two side to see the real result. It can't be one way! And the admins should remain neutral. If you can't be neutral and objective, then don't be an admin! Personal vendetta is not a good characteristics of a good administrator/s!

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 14:20
deepb

I need bobcorn. Who has bobcorn?

By somwerNdmiddle• 7 Jul 2010 14:15
somwerNdmiddle

question is why did you leave filex group in the first place and then wanted to join again?

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 14:13
anonymous

I suggest you try it again.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 14:09
flor1212

and even some inside the group gave their intention to join. But again, they viewed it as a divisive move and personal gain when nobody wants to answer the same question I raised above! They will do character assassination rather than lose their grip to power!

Just like now, I will presume nobody will answer my queries above!

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 14:02
Rating: 2/5
anonymous

Flor, you can create another thread regarding the creation of another Filipino group(which is open to everyone).

Just ask who is in favor and who is not.

I am 100% with you.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 13:55
flor1212

but stll worth discussion?

1. Where can a newbie post in the vernacular, while awaiting membership (because membership is not automatic, it needs approval by the group admins and there are certain requirements such as number of points and need to present himself/herself to the gatherings)

2. What if a newbie just want to participate in the discussion in the vernacular?

3. How can you prevent those posting in the main forum in their dialect if they can't post in the group?

4. For scammers and trolls, yes, I agreed that they should not only be kick-out and banned but should be done IMMEDIATELY so moderators should be very active!

By Xray• 7 Jul 2010 13:44
Xray

very interesting discussion is going on here...my opinion, it should be correlated to the joining mode of group, if it is OPEN, then anyone should be allowed to comment in it, if it needs a request for joining, then first join the group to be able to comment in it.

Moreover it’s indeed a useful suggestion to give Group Manger rights to edit and delete comments in the threads under the group

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 13:40
nomerci

Deepb, he tried...on the main forum of all places...what a disaster that was! lololol

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 13:37
deepb

Is someone stopping you from creating another Filipino group flor?

By Xena• 7 Jul 2010 13:32
Xena

thats brilliant... I have been asking for that since groups started:-) yay... no more unsolicated and stupid comment on the Animal groups posts:-)

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 13:31
DaRuDe

quit it enough.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 13:30
flor1212

so there will be options and avoid monopoly. The forum admins can appoint UNBIASED manger who will allow anybody who wants to participate but will have a strong power to moderate (delete or banned unwanted postings, but following the guidelines of warning first second, third and then banning if repeatedly done). That's the essence of the existing guidelines!

And before somebody react again violently, please put into record, I ENJOY POSTING MY VIEWS and I AM BIASED!

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 13:19
Rating: 4/5
deepb

Groups are called groups precisely because it's division into groups.... If you want to post on common threads no one is stopping you. You want to invade another group, I don't see why they should let you. About time they made it that way.

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 13:19
DaRuDe

you will no more be able to post in lesbian group which is private and hidden :D

By owen• 7 Jul 2010 13:18
owen

Ok, i know the changes are just new.. but just want to share some suggestion..

why not open an option to all group managers to either (1)open their group to all or (2)make it restricted for non-members

but hey, this could be just one of my silly (hope not) suggestion.. and i know Ahmad and Qatari and the rest of the mods will smack their foreheads for reading "another" suggestion out of the many.. :D

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 13:17
flor1212

but again, my point is being twisted in other ways! Really hard if you have a biased audience!

By rEzyz• 7 Jul 2010 13:16
rEzyz

by dividing the Qlers into groups would not be the solution... one should be free to post in any of groups...

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 13:15
deepb

welcome back tcom :)

By t_coffee_or_me• 7 Jul 2010 13:12
t_coffee_or_me

I am in Welcomeback mode today

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 13:12
SPEED

I am talking in general. I can see the impact now.

I don't like to join XYZ group but wish to share my 2 cent discussion wit them. What is a harm?

If they don't like my post.... Mods can delete upon request.

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 13:11
DaRuDe

are you sure alright

welcoming every one on QL today

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 13:10
DaRuDe

owes me 20bucks for joining QLSG :D

By t_coffee_or_me• 7 Jul 2010 13:10
t_coffee_or_me

Welcome back Owen

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 13:10
DaRuDe

i want to say something in Punjabi to you some lovely words but i cant because there are females who will understand my love for you.

By owen• 7 Jul 2010 13:09
owen

finally.. this took years to get implemented.. :)

now i have to chase all groups i'm interested in and join membership..

so long to spammers, trolls, hijackers you are now restricted only in the main forum...and i guess it's high time now that all old inactive members should be active again with their respective groups..

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 13:08
SPEED

I gave you a fake cheque which was bounced and till date you are chasing me ;-)

Again back to topic. This restriction will impact on :

1) QL members leaving the QL if not given chance to discuss in other Groups.

2) If i wish to comment on particular Group and the Manager does not accept my request. What should I do? Create a new thread and start a new topic to discuss?

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 12:58
anonymous

flor the criteria is decided by the admin. Now you will say who decides the criteria for admins and who decides the criteria for those who are deciding the criteria for the admins and who decides the criteria for those who are deciding the criteria for those who are deciding the criteria for the admins. This chain can't end.

By t_coffee_or_me• 7 Jul 2010 12:58
t_coffee_or_me

Good Move

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:57
flor1212

banning? Really, what a narrow-minded view if I may say so!

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 12:57
deepb

Ah ok nomerci, makes more sense.

Flor - Either learn to get along with your group or make a new one of your own.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:55
flor1212

there will always be two sides. Does it means that everytime one member opposed or give a different opinion, the option is to banned! That's ridiculous!

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 12:54
DaRuDe

i know you all and history and the number of hairs on your body :P

so just calm down and chill and enjoy QL

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:53
flor1212

the real issue!

deepb, yes, you are missing a lot but read again my posting above and you'll sense the real issue regarding this bad move!

WK, means your manager is unbiased and GOOD! Yes, you hit it right, let the Manager of your group kick hard those undeserving (but what s the criteria for deserving and undeserving?)

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 12:52
nomerci

deep, flor can't join the group he wants to comment in, that's what the fuss is all about.

And , I think, if he goes on like this, he may get banned from the main forum too,again.

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 12:51
anonymous

flor probably you got jealous to your kabayan which you think you are smarter than them and some become an admin with their group. while you are still an ordinary poster that everytime can be kicked out.

By Victory_278692• 7 Jul 2010 12:47
Victory_278692

initiative.....when there is NO Self discipline...

Forced discipline and fines should be levied to violators.

Peace

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 12:43
DaRuDe

on joining a group. so go join rather then wasting your time complaining.

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 12:40
deepb

Why don't you just join the group if you want to comment? Did I miss something? Whats all the fuss about?

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 12:39
anonymous

Everyone can join the Indian group. So join the group and comment. Admins can then kick out those who post nonsense and spam the group.

By PITSTOP• 7 Jul 2010 12:39
PITSTOP

Speed, in the case of QLVG maybe you are correct. Maybe this change could be fixed as to anyone can comment on group forums that joining is possible. Maybe keeping the restriction on the ones that you need to request join them? But can Admins make such changes?

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 12:38
nomerci

I think it's perfectly fine that one has to be a member to post in groups.

If you are so keen to post in a particular group, become a member, as simple as that.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:35
flor1212

but Indian?

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:34
flor1212

precisely rules and guidelines were set-up as the forum basis, so as to prevent biased decisions and prevent personal decisions dealing with the whole group!

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 12:31
anonymous

I don't want Non-Indians to comment on Indian group topics when they don't know anything about the subject matter.

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 12:28
nomerci

No flor, I think you simply have annoyed your kabayan so much that they made this request.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:28
flor1212

anything wrong to be upset?

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:27
flor1212

if I (in particular) wanted to post in my own dialect, where will I post it and where will I discuss it?

In the case of your groups, no problem, there are a lot of English forum where anybody can participate.

Say, if there is a discussion about an Indian topic where only Indians have the expertise or knowledge to participate and wanted to be discussed in their own language, will you deny a non-member to participate in the discussion?

Is QL becoming to politicized that politics now play a great part. So, if you are a Republican, you can not join a discussion with the Democrats in an open forum where what is being discussed is in general and not exclusive?

Precisely the title of my thread, they requested it because they feel they OWN the group and they want exclusivity?

By nomerci• 7 Jul 2010 12:20
nomerci

flor, you are just upset you can't post in the filipino group anymore. lol

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 12:18
DaRuDe

i for once wont like any non member of my group to comment there.

it was on their request to keep it private from other members thats why the group is not in group list. now its much more better that they wont be able to post any comment.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:11
flor1212

just strengthened the power of moderation by the group admins to check those trolls and scammers. And if neede,more strength and more MAin Forum Admins to monitor the group admins which means the MAin Forum Admins should put Moderators who UNDERSTAND the different dialects. But make sure getting unbiased and neutral moderators!

By Arien• 7 Jul 2010 12:09
Arien

Good move indeed

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 12:06
flor1212

or the new Qler? And Da, you are the respectable QLSG MAnager, right? Are you lawyering for other particular group? Is the Forum rules and guidelines being implemented unbiased and not unilaterally? Just asking? Lol!

By SPEED• 7 Jul 2010 12:04
Rating: 5/5
SPEED

on QL members.

Once you are a member of QL, you should have access to all the Group Forums for discussion, whether you are a member of that particular Group or not.

Group Managers should be given access to delete/ edit any post within the Group only.

After removing the email option from the Group, it has become more difficult to communicate with Group members.

QLVG has around 700 members, during cool campaign we were not able to send email to the members!!

Anyhow, as I stated above. This is not a good move.

You should give access to all Group Manager to edit/ delete any post posted in their particular.

By yv2r• 7 Jul 2010 12:04
yv2r

so what do we do,simply read every replies and learn from that

By Visper• 7 Jul 2010 12:03
Visper

I will move on.. I don't have a group but i survived, i guess.. I used to comment in one group which speak my mother tongue but now i am not allowed to comment..

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 12:00
deepb

No probs mj. Now I have another group to practice my hijacking skills on :) MUAHAHAHAHA

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 11:57
DaRuDe

not any personal property

its just to keep the scammers and trolls and hijackers away thats all

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 11:56
flor1212

is unbiased and stay neutral. And yes, the group should start filtering their membership to know the real members.

Or is it customary to maintain inactive member than to have a real good member?

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:56
mjamille28

come on deepb, cut me some slack will ya.. :P

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:55
deepb

lol, so you were that busy group manager :P

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:54
mjamille28

sorry deepb, I was busy.. all sorted now.. :P

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 11:52
anonymous

i tried to apply in pajju's group fortunately he replied me asking my vital statistics. stupid old man pajju. not deserved to be an admin.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 11:52
flor1212

the moderation power of the group admins and not to disallow the non-members to participate. This is really a bad move! They are making it their personal property!

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:52
deepb

mj, that was like a year back....

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 11:51
DaRuDe

By group managers no approve or disapprove a member's membership and only allow those who are active. most of the groups are not active and the managers are long gone dead.

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:50
mjamille28

errr, deepb, i hear you... will check on that.. :P

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:50
mjamille28

rezyz, go to "Groups", you'll find a list of QL groups, click "join" or "request membership" on the group that you wish to be a member of..

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:50
deepb

I applied for Table tennis group but my application was not accepted or rejected. Must be a long waiting list.

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:49
Rizks

lol drmana....

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:48
drmana

I joined that deepb, but no one posts there. I once posted there for my countrymen and got bashed. Useless :-(

By rEzyz• 7 Jul 2010 11:48
rEzyz

how to become a member of any group... ?

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:47
mjamille28

awww drmana, you're welcome in my group.. :)

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:45
deepb

I think there is a Asian group you can join drmana.

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:45
Rizks

drmana why so harsh and off mood today ? :(

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:44
Rizks

Visper NO !!

I am an Admin Officer in my Office not in QL.....:(

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:43
drmana

mj, because I am not Indian, not pakistani, not filipina, not hindi/urdu speaker, not kailari, not tamil, not religious, not a sports person, not poetic, don't attned any social gathering and blah blah blah.....in short I am a useless boring Qler :-(

By KHATTAK• 7 Jul 2010 11:43
KHATTAK

It can be made even better if the Group Managers are given the authority to allow/disallow a specific non group member to post in the group's threads.

By Visper• 7 Jul 2010 11:42
Visper

I thought Rizks is an admin in a group..

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:40
mjamille28

rezyz, you are free to comment on threads in the main forum.. but not in the group forums..

drmana, why is that?

By rEzyz• 7 Jul 2010 11:38
rEzyz

i m not a member of any group, or social group...

m i free to comment on any of threads...?

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:38
drmana

Rizks, you at least have options to join. I have none even to apply :-(

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:37
deepb

Oh crap, Pajju invited me to his kairali group so I can't join my own group! Evil Pajju.

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:37
Rizks

i am damn sure no group would accept my request to join any groups....:(

Poor Me.

You Mercyless people...:(

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:34
mjamille28

deepb, can a member of a group apply for your "not a member of any group" group? I know it's a silly question, but maybe you'll make exceptions? :P

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:34
drmana

Ok, deep...please do that :-)

By KHATTAK• 7 Jul 2010 11:33
KHATTAK

I just loved this move by the Admin.

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:32
deepb

I will start a new group - "Not a Member of any other group".

By mjamille28• 7 Jul 2010 11:31
mjamille28

drmana, you can post it in my group.. ;)

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:29
drmana

Rizks, your poking nose everywhere must be responsible for this :-D

But now this leaves me very less posts to post at as I am not a member of any active group :-(

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:27
Rizks

ME ?

no no noway, infact i keep getting love PM's frm the MOD every now and then....:(

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:26
drmana

Rizks, are you responsible for this move in anyway? :-)

By Rizks• 7 Jul 2010 11:20
Rizks

new changes in QL, updating the site with new new features...

dont u think u should thank the Mods instead of whinning here ?

Thank God atleast tat 2 buggers Guru and Pressflow are not ALIVE...:(

By DaRuDe• 7 Jul 2010 11:20
DaRuDe

thats what i wanted that only members should post in the groups they are members of.

hope next will be for the hijackers.

By Visper• 7 Jul 2010 11:20
Visper

Well i say not fair.. But i don't care.. If they want the exclusivity for their group, fine.. They can have it.. Like they are saying "Yow, you are an outsider.. You're not welcome to comment in our thread." Jezz!! Not so friendly.. hahaha

By anonymous• 7 Jul 2010 11:19
anonymous

Good move.

By deepb• 7 Jul 2010 11:18
deepb

I'm totally confused as usual.

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:17
drmana

Flor, I have not noticed any group complaining because any non-member posted there except in one group. So I don't know why this move was made. I never said who owns group, I don't get it as to which statement of mine made you say that. Don't twist my words. I have no problems whosoever owns the group. I will post where I am allowed as even I don't own any group. Fair or unfair, I would say unfair....

By s_isale• 7 Jul 2010 11:16
s_isale

then the group posts should not appear on the recent comments or recent post. Create a separate tab for them as well.

By flor1212• 7 Jul 2010 11:11
flor1212

the group managers own the group? In the same way as the Forum Admins own this Forum? WOW!

By drmana• 7 Jul 2010 11:08
Rating: 4/5
drmana

Notice just now when I opened a post in QLVG....may be an attempt to prevent hijacking. But in QLVG too....that didn't seem fair. For other groups, no comments. If they want only members to post, so be it.

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