Single + pregnant: what about marriage etc

aidata
By aidata

Big dilema time - any help really appreciated....

....it wasn't planned but my GF is now pregnant (happened whilst on holiday but she's now back in Qatar). I'll keep the details short - she lives in Qatar on single status contract, I live elsewhere where she can't live, we're not married.

I've trawled through the posts here and realise that we only have limited choices:

1) Abortion in another country.
2) Depart Qatar and keep baby.
3) Get married and keep baby.

Options 1 and 2 are fairly straight forward (I don't mean that from a decision point of view - purely from an organisational one!).

Option 3 raises several questions....

1) How long would it take to get married at the embassy in Qatar - could that be achieved in a weekend (shot-gun wedding or what!).
1) If we get married then will my GF (or should that be wife!?) be able to transfer her contract to married status without issue?
2) If the contract can't be changed then will that present issues at the time of birth - i.e. she would have to show marriage certificate to authorities. Work could terminate her because she's on single status contract etc.
3) If the contract can be altered then could she sponsor me as her husband so I can move there for work.
4) If the contract can be altered how long will it take.
5) If the contract can be altered can we apply for a family visa so I can stay for more than one month.

Sorry there's so many questions but there's a whole load of decisions that have to be made and fairly quickly!

Thanks in advance.

By Primuz• 10 Dec 2014 18:05
Primuz

wow. this is 5 years ago anyway. i have some question also.. having a friend who is 10 weeks pregnant but their schedule of wedding is mid of January good thing the guy is willing to married the girl. MY QUESTION IS: are there any problem that will faced by couple since they are not married but or it will go smooth since they will commit to each other even-though the girl is preggy? thanks in advance :D

By PrinceOfDoha• 11 Aug 2009 09:25
PrinceOfDoha

for ur kind information , u might be living some where in desert so u dont know , a lady can sponsor her husband is she fulfill the requirments .

for ur future info pls write down it

By ummjake• 11 Aug 2009 08:53
ummjake

C'mon folks. Grow up. Let them make their own decision.

Just FYI, the closest/easiest places to terminate a pregnancy (if you're pregnant in Qatar) are India or UK (Maria Stopes clinics are located in various big cities)

Also FYI, they do NOT do any sort of diagnostic prenatal testing here (like amniocentesis, etc.) that would diagnose certain problems with the fetus. For that, your GF will have to go to Dubai (closest place).

Most women won't start showing until about 4th month, so you have some time before you make any decisions.

Women CAN sponsor their husbands here; I know of a few who do. It depends upon your company and salary amount, etc. The authorities here generally don't like to do it (I guess they find it emasculating or something, to think that a woman could sponsor her husband. Egads! Kind of turns the power tables uncomfortably...), but there is precedent so it CAN happen.

Also just FYI, there ARE private doctors (gyn/ob) here who will be discreet and examine your GF even though you're not married yet. Send me a PM is you would like more details on this option.

Marrying here isn't a quick option, but it shouldn't take forever either. As with everything, there is paperwork to be done in advance. Check with your embassy to get the details. Churches here don't do quickie weddings.

"Most plain girls are virtuous because of the scarcity of opportunity to be otherwise."

-- Maya Angelou

By jihad.marei• 11 Aug 2009 08:45
jihad.marei

1) How long would it take to get married at the embassy in Qatar

a. It depends on your embassy some embassies defined couple of days in the week for the marriage and for divorce as well.

could that be achieved in a weekend (shot-gun wedding or what!)

b. yes it can be done in one day and pick the marriage certificate after max 3 working days.

1) If we get married then will my GF (or should that be wife!?) be able to transfer her contract to married status without issue?

a. Yes, but the status change has nothing to do with being bregnant or not, it is matter of getting better contract if her employer has this class in HR system

2) If the contract can't be changed then will that present issues at the time of birth

a. No

- i.e. she would have to show marriage certificate to authorities  yes she has to show it up

. Work could terminate her because she's on single status contract etc.

3) If the contract can be altered then could she sponsor me as her husband so I can move there for work.

a. Yes she can

4) If the contract can be altered how long will it take.

a. It depends on her employer

5) If the contract can be altered can we apply for a family visa so I can

a. Yes you can

By anonymous• 11 Aug 2009 08:32
anonymous

why don't u spend a QR 15 before.............. for a c*****................

By Lovely Ria• 11 Aug 2009 08:26
Lovely Ria

Your GF is now pregnant!!!rigth...

If both of you have a cenomar or Singleness then

you can marry in embacy but it cost 3 Mo. to prepare

because after papers is ready they will publish within

one Month.

If you think that you have still time...

Then go go go for wedding happily and you can have more

baby's legally.

Reminders : If you have no document yet better to sent her home immidiately...it is big danger for her...even she cannot go to Hamad to make her check up...

Police will catch her and make a case for prostitution.It is not allowed her in qatar...

Good Luck...

By anonymous• 11 Aug 2009 07:10
anonymous

Just ask her to go on a vacation back to your home country,call up the employer inform him that my parents need me to get married asap and I assure it wouldnt hamper my performance at the job get married,dont speak a word about pergnanacy and when the contract has been changed she can sponser you if her salary falls in the bracket I believe 4000QR(reconfirm it).then once when she,s on job she can disclose that she's pregnant.remember qatar doesnt allow abortion.OR once you get married she can apply for a visit visa for you initialy for a mnth and then you can extend it by going to the labour department for next six mnths and you can find an employment in this mean time and I am sure 7 mnths is huge time to get married.this should not concern her employment or job anything.by the way dont forget to change your passport after marriage thats a must for the hospital.all the best.

WHERE THERE'S A WILL,THERE'S A WAY.

By eu61• 3 Aug 2009 09:12
eu61

it could another case of racism in this country.

I noticed that my european coleagues are getting family visas for their wifes as milk and honey. I think they dont even check the papers.

But for some of our eastern engineers is like hell. I have even a Bangla engineer that is telling me that after six months applicating if he is not able to get visa for his wife, he will return Dhaka as this is not worthy enough to stay away so much time from family.

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

By Mandilulur• 3 Aug 2009 09:02
Mandilulur

No, eu61, it's a good question, and the answer is yes, for all nationalities.

Mandi

By eu61• 3 Aug 2009 09:00
eu61

Just question. Do not misunderstood, pls.

Are they really so strict? or only with certains nationalities?

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

By Gypsy• 3 Aug 2009 07:47
Gypsy

In all honesty I think the best course for her at this point would be to go speak to someone at her embassy. They can advise her on the legal issues better then anyone on this forum and they won't report her to the authorities.

By Mandilulur• 3 Aug 2009 06:45
Mandilulur

I think we're missing a vital piece of info - your girlfriend's nationality. If she were a UK citizen then much of this wouldn't be an issue, she could travel for medical care or a wedding. I'm going to assume she isn't a EU citizen and hence the problems. If you don't have a Qatari RP then you can't marry here. If she can't get the time off from work or can't get to Cyprus, that's another problem. The Maldives is also a site for quick weddings. I think the first priority is to protect her from possible sanctions here then figure out what will work best in the long run for you both. Good luck!

Mandi

By anonymous• 3 Aug 2009 06:39
anonymous

You mentioned that she couldn't live where you are but I am assuming that would change if you married.

Glad to hear you are willing to support the baby and her, and have the means to do so. :-)

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By aidata• 3 Aug 2009 06:28
aidata

All,

To please one person - THANKS FOR THE INFO SO FAR.

To update - I have a well paid job and don't worry I'll step up to the plate WRT caring for the baby and the mother.

My GF wants to continue working even after the birth (and allowed leave). It's not something I'm forcing her into - quite the opposite in fact.

All the work related questions are so that we can make the best decision for us and the baby in the future. If my GF wants to continue work then I could move there (if I find a job there). Alternatively she could move here once we're married and all the necessary paper work has been done.

Lets just say that HERE isn't the best place for women though!

By anonymous• 3 Aug 2009 06:01
anonymous

My point was based on IF they decide to keep the baby. I just hate to think of some woman getting this dumped on her without the full support of the father. After all, it takes 2 :-)

BTW, I have seen this happen with so many Asian women and Western men (no offense to anybody) and the guys can be such jerks. I met one guy who had 3 baby-mommas back in the US and then came to Doha and found himself a Filipina baby-momma. She had to return to Manila, where she is now treated like an outcast in her family and he is here in Doha angling for the potential next baby-momma. He thinks as long as he calls her and sends money for the pampers he's doing his job. I asked him if he was going to marry her so she could get American citizenship and he said no; but he might be willing to go live in the Philippines after he retired from Doha. And btw, this guy was mid-50s!

LOSER.

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By MissX• 3 Aug 2009 05:49
MissX

lol after PM's post. Now I'm thinking abort abort abort. Sounds like hell. Just my opinion tho :P

By anonymous• 3 Aug 2009 05:29
anonymous

of options and yet you are concerned about whether she can get her job back after the baby is born in her home country? Who would take care of the baby if she had to come back to work? If she is going to go through with the pregnancy then it is time for you to man up and take responsibility. Marry her and start the process for her to immigrate to the UK and be with you. Otherwise, at least cover her expenses to leave her job, wait out her pregnancy in her home country and deliver. Then be prepared to support your child for the rest of your life.

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By MissX• 3 Aug 2009 05:10
Rating: 2/5
MissX

Depending on how far along your girlfriend is, and how comfortable you are with aborting, there is actually a pill available that you can take within 2 months of the pregnancy that will abort the baby. It is called RU486, is non invasive, and can be obtained through a doctor in most developed countries.

If you wish to marry your girlfriend, please only do so because you love her and want to spend the rest of your life with her, not out of obligation. The best bet would be to marry outside of Qatar. That way you avoid all the formalities, and can't be charged with anything illegal if her pregnancy was found out before you were married.

Either way, take some time off and leave the country and think your choices through before you commit to anything. Make the decision based on what you believe in, what you want to do, and what makes you happy, and then you can figure out the complications with her work later.

By Ms Lana• 3 Aug 2009 05:04
Ms Lana

Oh, make a proposal and let her immeadetly leave Qatar.

Stay responsible for a baby, YOU should work, dear, on whatever contract in Qatar, UK, US, EU as a gentleman .. your lady should not work during the pregnancy period, not even later during the feeding period (at least, it is recommended).

I advice to ask your parents also. For your Mom you are always her lovely son, isn't she helpless for you in such a private case? Parents would support you anyway .. and accept your lady and a baby!

By j3375• 3 Aug 2009 04:24
j3375

go out of qatar,get married n come back..dont go to the govt hosp hamad in such circumstances as u may get into legal hassles..

By jassKat• 2 Aug 2009 22:55
Rating: 4/5
jassKat

well don't just get married because you feel you have too, it will end badly for everyone in the situation.

If you want to get married because you want to be with her forever then have her go to your home country, get a quick court wedding. Once she has this there wont be any problems for her being pregnant in Doha whether or not you are there. As long as she has an official document proving you two are married she will be in no trouble at all. If you do choose to get married, she can come back to Doha and speak to her company and get your sponsorship sorted out.

And congratulations on the baby, what a blessing :D

 

 

tra la la

By Stone Cold• 2 Aug 2009 22:53
Stone Cold

Or maybe you just have sex with her for fun or one night love affairs. Unfortunately comes the baby.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 22:46
anonymous

Still no gratitude. Not even a thankyou for the number of people posting their suggestions.

By ahmody012• 2 Aug 2009 22:23
ahmody012

YOU MUST GET MARRIED.

IF U LEFT YOUR BABY U WILL NEVER FOREGIVE-----

KIDDING USUALLY END SERIOUSLY.

By aidata• 2 Aug 2009 21:44
aidata

abc150...

No where in my original post do I ask for advice on abortion. Sorry if you are offended by this - it's not arrogrance to inform people that they are wasting their time providing this information.

If you're going to quote me then please don't do it out of context:

"Also, abortion or not will be our decision and someone we've never met won't alter that. Sure express your view but just be aware that it's falling on deaf ears in this case."

Seems reasonable to me.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 21:29
anonymous

You are quite arrogant I must say.

Firstly, you are asking suggestion/help from other people and people are spending time answering your stupid questions. In return you come back and say that "and someone we've never met won't alter that. Sure express your view but just be aware that it's falling on deaf ears in this case."

If all suggestions being given by people are falling on deaf ears, then better get lost. Otherwise show some gratitude for other people who are writing their suggestions.

By Stone Cold• 2 Aug 2009 20:49
Stone Cold

Just go get married. You could sponsor her once shes your wife. She may lose her current job here however you can take care of her as you wife.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 17:14
anonymous

First off, ask yourself how comfortable u both are with the idea of an abortion. Moving onto that, your GF can sponsor u but only once u are married...As for embassies, to be honest u'll just have to check with them, u're best bet though if u don't want to get married is simply to leave. at the end of the day, many young ladies often regret having an abortion once it's been carried out. But good luck and congrats on becoming parents :-)

By alpha1• 2 Aug 2009 17:06
alpha1

if u love her and u dont want problem

just get marrry her

By yv2r• 2 Aug 2009 16:45
yv2r

yv2r

If a person is having cough, they can not hide for a long as they are forced to cough,

Truth also can not be hidden for a long time, it will come out,

Like wise even the Pregnency also can not be a hidden for a long time as it will start growing the size of tummy,

Take a decession fast before they are caught by any medical or colleagues looking at the tummy,

Fun/pleasure for couple of minuites landedup in a great trouble,now they have to pay the price either get imprisonment and deport after the punishment period or spend some extra money go out and get married.

All the best

By aidata• 2 Aug 2009 16:13
aidata

All,

Thanks for the replies.

I have a couple more questions:

1) If my GF leaves Qatar for her home country (not the UK) then would she be able to return after the birth if she wanted.

2) If this is possible then whats the best way of doing this without burning any bridges i.e. to her employer, to the Qatar government etc.

Thanks once again.

Oh and BTW contraception was used. What an imperfect world we live in eh - but don't get me started on that!

Also, abortion or not will be our decision and someone we've never met won't alter that. Sure express your view but just be aware that it's falling on deaf ears in this case.

By Gypsy• 2 Aug 2009 11:41
Gypsy

Well then I take back what I said! Aidata don't listen to me!

By HASMUB• 2 Aug 2009 11:37
HASMUB

yes 100% sure

By Gypsy• 2 Aug 2009 11:31
Gypsy

Are you sure? I could have sworn wives could sponsor their husbands....

By Gypsy• 2 Aug 2009 11:31
Gypsy

Are you sure? I could have sworn wives could sponsor their husbands....

By HASMUB• 2 Aug 2009 11:29
HASMUB

Gypsy, wives sponsoring thier husband is an issue long time back, this is not yet approved by immigration. Yes, they can get married in the UK.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 11:21
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

Just a quick reminder, pray to God that she won't get into any situation where she need any kind of treatment in qatar until you guyz are not married.

You GF will be behind bars the moment the medical staffs realizes that she is pregnant and is not married. I would strongly recommend, get married in you home country ASAP. That's the only best solution.

Remember, you have no right to take a life that does not belong to and don't even dream about killing your baby.

Since you don't have valid residence permit for living in Qatar, there is no point in trying to get married here in QATAR.

You both are taking a big risk as every day is passing by, don't waste anymore time and get married.

The wise person has long ears and a short tongue.

By Gypsy• 2 Aug 2009 11:15
Gypsy

Hasmub, wives can sponsor their husbands. And he can't marry her HERE if he doesn't have an RP, but he can marry her back in the UK and it's a valid marriage.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 11:13
Rating: 3/5
anonymous

To correct azilana7037 answer for Q3.

3) If the contract can be altered then could she sponsor me as her husband so I can move there for work.

As I understand only Husband can sponsor a wife and not visa versa. Wife cannot sponsor a husband but she can sponsor the kids. Being husband you will have to first find a job & sponsorer before moving to Qatar. Also, its better you take your GF to your home country and get maried before she returning to Qatar. I am sure it should not take more than 2 weeks for you guyz to finish all the paper work.

If it was india, it could take anywhere between 30 minutes to 30 days to make a legal wedding. If you are muslim and follow islam, getting married would take as much as filling up a form and getting the signatures from 4 witnesses and registrar (Imam usually).

The wise person has long ears and a short tongue.

By HASMUB• 2 Aug 2009 11:05
Rating: 3/5
HASMUB

Big dilema time - any help really appreciated....

....it wasn't planned but my GF is now pregnant (happened whilst on holiday but she's now back in Qatar). I'll keep the details short - she lives in Qatar on single status contract, I live elsewhere where she can't live, we're not married.

I've trawled through the posts here and realise that we only have limited choices:

1) Abortion in another country - a a very big sin to GOD

2) Depart Qatar and keep baby - best option

3) Get married and keep baby - how? If you are having a Qatar valid Residence permit,yes it is possible, if not no way

Options 1 and 2 are fairly straight forward (I don't mean that from a decision point of view - purely from an organisational one!).

Option 3 raises several questions....

1) How long would it take to get married at the embassy in Qatar - could that be achieved in a weekend (shot-gun wedding or what!). if oyu have the required documents, you can get married fast

1) If we get married then will my GF (or should that be wife!?) be able to transfer her contract to married status without issue? a very complicated issue

2) If the contract can't be changed then will that present issues at the time of birth - i.e. she would have to show marriage certificate to authorities. Work could terminate her because she's on single status contract etc. what is the relation of her contract to her situation now?

3) If the contract can be altered then could she sponsor me as her husband so I can move there for work. Wife cannot sponsor a husband

4) If the contract can be altered how long will it take. How to alter? this is the first time I heard this things here

5) If the contract can be altered can we apply for a family visa so I can stay for more than one month. Wife cannot sponsor a husband and as what I have written above, if you dont have a valid RP here, you cannot marry your GF

If she will face some medical issues here and need to be hospitalized it will be a big problem for her since the hospital itself will directly inform the police which she will be jailed and subject for deportation. Dont waste time, let her pack her things and go home and dont ever think think about abortion, you both did it, so face all the consequences and be responsible

By salman icon• 2 Aug 2009 08:54
salman icon

Without marriage she became pregnant in Qatar makes the case very critical. in my opinion consult with the lawyer he can guide u in a better way than others or QL.

but what i understand is there should be a husband or any proof of husband if he is living outside of the country at the time of delivery as a name of the father of the baby just to complete the paper work. otherwise it will become illegal and might be reported to police.

if you are from western country, police and authorities know very well about the baby without marriage is common there. but if she delivers a baby here in qatar she should have a proof of husband even she get married one day before delivery.

but i suggest to consult with lawyer if u can afford.

By britexpat• 2 Aug 2009 07:41
britexpat

I am not his GF... Its a vicious rumour..

Back to the topic..

The main question is - Do you really want to marry her ?

By haas• 2 Aug 2009 07:38
haas

GET MARRIED ,THEN EVERY THING FINE

By baldrick2dogs• 2 Aug 2009 07:00
baldrick2dogs

Is your GF a Brit too?

By mmyke• 2 Aug 2009 04:26
mmyke

get lashed here for doing such a thing??

By elioswd• 2 Aug 2009 00:35
elioswd

Stay away from the police ....

By Stone Cold• 2 Aug 2009 00:32
Stone Cold

Why not play safe earlier on. My advice, Get Married to her. If you know how to cut down a tree, you should be able to carry it.

By Happy Happy• 2 Aug 2009 00:29
Happy Happy

Important tips...

http://www.qatarliving.com/node/62692

Salam

By azilana7037• 2 Aug 2009 00:22
azilana7037

I'm sure other Brits will have a more specific answer for you.

By azilana7037• 2 Aug 2009 00:16
Rating: 5/5
azilana7037

But I''m not...so I''ll answer your Q's to the best of what I know...but first:

1) Abortion in another country.-->Abortion is not practiced in Qatar

2) Depart Qatar and keep baby.-->she can depart Qatar and be with you so you could get married AND KEEP THE BABY

3) Get married and keep baby. --->THAT'S WHAT YOU MUST DO...LOCO!!!

Answer to your OTHER questions....

1) How long would it take to get married at the embassy in Qatar - could that be achieved in a weekend (shot-gun wedding or what!).

Answer:have your bride (wife-to-be) submit the needed requirements so it'll take only a week...but depends on what embassy.

1) If we get married then will my GF (or should that be wife!?) be able to transfer her contract to married status without issue?

Answer:She need to inform her sponsor/employer that she's getting married; so they could alter her contract as MARRIED and get the benefits and all that. Unless the company deem that her pregnancy will hinder her performing her job to the detriment of the company...only then, the company will terminate her with prior notice

2) If the contract can't be changed then will that present issues at the time of birth - i.e. she would have to show marriage certificate to authorities. Work could terminate her because she's on single status contract etc.

Answer:As long as she has a marriage contract, no problem with the authorities. But then, she may have to go home and give birth.

3) If the contract can be altered then could she sponsor me as her husband so I can move there for work.

Answer:YES...that is possible

4) If the contract can be altered how long will it take.

Answer:depends on the company

5) If the contract can be altered can we apply for a family visa so I can stay for more than one month.

Answer:she can sponsor you as the new labor law allows it; if your bride meets the salary bracket allowing her to sponsor you.

By anonymous• 2 Aug 2009 00:14
anonymous

dear just get married, every thing will be fine

stop thinking what n so n so.

should think before you play with her.

so ...

Go & Get Marry, more easy if you can go back to your or her home country and get marry there

getting marry in Qatar is not so easy if you are not born here.

goodluck man

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