The title of the thread is "respect the law". Even here in QL, respect the guidelines. You trying to imply that I agree with what happened totally. The issue is respecting the law but calling it "satanic" is respecting it?
When did I say, I agree with it totally? Don't break it and nothing of this kind will happen! Right?
its not only me or Pilgram, its many other telling you the same.
Take this post as an example. The torture is certainly not supported by you (being of christain education) and instead of expressing what you think, you attack those who express their views against it, in the name of pleasing others who you perceive as your bread-feeders!
It sure gives hints a weak if not coward personality!
did I ever start a personal tirade on my initiation? I am known here as a reactionist! check all your postings! I post what I think and then you will start going personal! Why, losing options?
why are you so adamant to go personal tirade on me. Are you really that good. I only questions the language, not the idea. But you rather go personal than the topic. Check your posting, what does my "balls" got to do with this discussion? Or ..............
Flor, your version of "civil discussion" seems to be to constantly tell people not to question the establishment. I don't see how that is in anyway a discussion.
you just remember the one side of my comments and try to separate the other "opposing" views I in many instances posted here.
And you keep judging people. Is that a career of yours? I just want civil discussion and no badmouthing. But of course, some people here were raised in certain manners that sometimes, I would like to think that's the alphabet they learned back home!
Yes Flor I sincerely believe you'd follow any law put in front of you. You seem completely incapable of doing anything but parroting what others have told you to be right. You're lack of free will and ability to question the establishment critically is so glaring that I'm beginning to wonder if you aren't some hack from the Qatari government constantly spitting out propaganda following the policy line. Seriously, I think George W. Bush is more capable of thinking outside the box.
Hell, I don't think the Emir is even as blindly supportive of Qatar and its laws as you are!
of holiness. Do you really believe that, Pilgram? Anyway, you have no balls to even offer, so what's the point of discussing it with you! And are you interested with my b...? Lol!
it seems you and your country had the monopoly of "good" and "justice" that every man should wish for. You even imply that you are living with people who has "satanic" laws? Unless you are not here in the ME!
Your view is not only critical, it borders to being offensive! Are you really that good? Does Canada really a "heaven" on earth? Because if Saudi have "satanic" laws, then it must be the place called "hell"? So you think all those people living and working there are in "hell"? I find your view not critical, but very offensive!
Nic, Flor strikes me as the kind of guy that if Qatar suddenly passed a law that said all men over the age of say 25 had to have their balls cut off, he'd be the first in line.
That's your view. And how do you find execution by any means (electric chair, hanging, firing squad, lethal injection)?
To each his own. Have you have the inkling of running for public office? Or just imagining yourself as a judge? You think every one will agree with you all the way? So choose your word, you'll never know when will you be on the other side!
Flor12 dont twist my words I said I know a lot of flipinas here in such situation. I never said I am doing anything to them! Even if your kabyans are doing with others..:)
Look lets not move away from the topic. Again the question is why are the muslims being punished and other nationals getting away that number 1.
Secondly why are certain people who live behind high walled compound exempted from these laws and only the maids and the poor section of the society who are being made an example for the others.
I came across one Jordan chap lately who had three QA stewardess as GF. He was so clever or stupid which ever one you want to use that he knew which flights his GF were on and so he never got caught by the other gf nor the authorities.
Punishment practices that were common in the VII century are no longer seen as appropriate for humans, often labeled as barbaric and are mostly extinct in the XXI century, in societies that had a positive evolution in terms of civilizational behavior, since the middle ages. The law and society in question, is clearly an exception and has not followed the rest of the word's civilizational path!
I am not denying the existence of the rules nor the punishment described in the OP. All I am saying is that they are barbaric and satanic!
So why punish those two Muslims? What about the nationals openly soliciting prostitution and cavorting around with their girlfriends? Where's the punishment for them?
Flor12 I got it from a lot of pinoy girls that I have and come accros both on Ql and outside of QL. Maybe the ones I met might be just a minority in Phils but here are the majority of the ones I have come across her!
As the law of the GCC goes, it is simple mixing of opposite in public places is against the law and sex outside of wedlock is a criminal offense. But I guess like Brit said above here there is a law for the rich and one for the poor. It is the poor ones that we hear about being caught.
Guess the rules should be that if yer poor dont have sex here!
Pinoys are expert in remembering the two extra rules! Lol!
And honestly Padre, I really wonder where you got that impression of children born out of wedlock? Do you want to compare notes? At least in our country, we don't flaunt it the way the others do!
in a real world. Wake up! You can't have it all! Even the smallest house has it's own distinct rule. Respect doesn't mean you agree. But following is only the option!
I agree Brit. How many Western expats are running around having sex out of wedlock in the GCC, yet nothing is done to them. But a Bangladeshi has sex and he gets tortured (sorry there's no other word for it)
Yes TB, it is funny that never catch anyone in the hotel, or a well built up compound.
We have a villa in a compound which is frequented by a a local chap in his bentley a few times a week in the evenings with a female in the car. No what should I assume is going on here?
Yes UK, I read the Gulf Times and almost every day there is a case similar to this (without the lashes). But it is almost always because the activity took place in the sponsors home.
Funny how Michelle Palmer has a bottle of wine in the picture and seems like ready for some action. Lucky she was caught on a Dubai beach and not Sharjah..:)
Well I think it is the maid and drivers that get caught mostly in GCC countries. The locals and certain foreigners can get away with having illicit relationships without the authorities troubling them. If they really wanted to nab the real culprits. All they need is to hang out near the Qube on a Thurday night ..:)
That sure looks like it hurt *sighs* Goes without saying I guess "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" Are these people seriously unaware of the punishments when they commit such acts?Are they not pre warned ahead before they accept employment in ME?
Ps: Hey...Michelle Palmer! long time no see..still playing the victim,huh?funny how her whole story is not revealed!
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Or you could speak out against it and push for change. Then it won't happen again.
The title of the thread is "respect the law". Even here in QL, respect the guidelines. You trying to imply that I agree with what happened totally. The issue is respecting the law but calling it "satanic" is respecting it?
When did I say, I agree with it totally? Don't break it and nothing of this kind will happen! Right?
Your grasp of metaphors is sadly lacking as well....sigh.
I must be that good! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!! Those who wants my b..... are increasing in number!
Flor,
its not only me or Pilgram, its many other telling you the same.
Take this post as an example. The torture is certainly not supported by you (being of christain education) and instead of expressing what you think, you attack those who express their views against it, in the name of pleasing others who you perceive as your bread-feeders!
It sure gives hints a weak if not coward personality!
But I think he already had them cut off or at the very least they have atrophied from lack of use ;)
Oh, I must be that good??????????????? Satisfied now??????????????????? Lol!
You don't post what you think Flor, you tell others not to think. There is a difference.
did I ever start a personal tirade on my initiation? I am known here as a reactionist! check all your postings! I post what I think and then you will start going personal! Why, losing options?
No more personal than you go Flor. Or are you incapable of seeing your own faults?
flor,
you do come across to many of us the way Pilgram described you.
try to express what you think, instead of attempting to block others to do so.
you go personal! It's good you said so!
personal freedom is not above the country's law
entering someone's house without his/her permission is craziness
I'm simply intrigued because I have never run across someone quite so frustratingly pedantic in my life.
why are you so adamant to go personal tirade on me. Are you really that good. I only questions the language, not the idea. But you rather go personal than the topic. Check your posting, what does my "balls" got to do with this discussion? Or ..............
Flor, your version of "civil discussion" seems to be to constantly tell people not to question the establishment. I don't see how that is in anyway a discussion.
dp
you just remember the one side of my comments and try to separate the other "opposing" views I in many instances posted here.
And you keep judging people. Is that a career of yours? I just want civil discussion and no badmouthing. But of course, some people here were raised in certain manners that sometimes, I would like to think that's the alphabet they learned back home!
flor,
no need to display hints of inferiority complex. no one here is representing any country.
its all about casual, personal, independent and critical views.
chill, write what you actually think, no one here will chase you or send you home.
;)
Yes Flor I sincerely believe you'd follow any law put in front of you. You seem completely incapable of doing anything but parroting what others have told you to be right. You're lack of free will and ability to question the establishment critically is so glaring that I'm beginning to wonder if you aren't some hack from the Qatari government constantly spitting out propaganda following the policy line. Seriously, I think George W. Bush is more capable of thinking outside the box.
Hell, I don't think the Emir is even as blindly supportive of Qatar and its laws as you are!
of holiness. Do you really believe that, Pilgram? Anyway, you have no balls to even offer, so what's the point of discussing it with you! And are you interested with my b...? Lol!
Pilgram,
LOL...
it seems you and your country had the monopoly of "good" and "justice" that every man should wish for. You even imply that you are living with people who has "satanic" laws? Unless you are not here in the ME!
Your view is not only critical, it borders to being offensive! Are you really that good? Does Canada really a "heaven" on earth? Because if Saudi have "satanic" laws, then it must be the place called "hell"? So you think all those people living and working there are in "hell"? I find your view not critical, but very offensive!
Nic, Flor strikes me as the kind of guy that if Qatar suddenly passed a law that said all men over the age of say 25 had to have their balls cut off, he'd be the first in line.
flor,
your counter-argument abilities astonishes me ;)
honestly, do you really have that doubt that anybody would possibly believe that?
not having the world tuned in unison, does that mean you can't express your critical views?
even the time difference is too wide. Learn to accept reality yourself. Do you honestly believe all people will have the same thinking as you are?
flor,
Satanic, as extremely wicked!
Can you see the difference between the civilization behavior of the VII century and the XXI century?
Seeing this kind of punishment as normal is exactly what ancestors did in the VII century.
Too bad some remain stuck there.
like the local will say it is my country..:0) i can do what ever I like and whoever with..right?
Equality in rights will never be attained. I'm not being pessimistic but it has been like that since ages. :(
poor is poor, rich is rich. I agree with Brit.
The picture looks really disturbing..
As far as the law is concerned, yes i too feel everyone should obey it if they are living as expatriates.
That's your view. And how do you find execution by any means (electric chair, hanging, firing squad, lethal injection)?
To each his own. Have you have the inkling of running for public office? Or just imagining yourself as a judge? You think every one will agree with you all the way? So choose your word, you'll never know when will you be on the other side!
and I am just poking you. The 11th rule says, never be caught. The 12th rule is , when caught, never ever admit! Lol!
Flor12 dont twist my words I said I know a lot of flipinas here in such situation. I never said I am doing anything to them! Even if your kabyans are doing with others..:)
Look lets not move away from the topic. Again the question is why are the muslims being punished and other nationals getting away that number 1.
Secondly why are certain people who live behind high walled compound exempted from these laws and only the maids and the poor section of the society who are being made an example for the others.
I came across one Jordan chap lately who had three QA stewardess as GF. He was so clever or stupid which ever one you want to use that he knew which flights his GF were on and so he never got caught by the other gf nor the authorities.
flor,
Punishment practices that were common in the VII century are no longer seen as appropriate for humans, often labeled as barbaric and are mostly extinct in the XXI century, in societies that had a positive evolution in terms of civilizational behavior, since the middle ages. The law and society in question, is clearly an exception and has not followed the rest of the word's civilizational path!
I am not denying the existence of the rules nor the punishment described in the OP. All I am saying is that they are barbaric and satanic!
you are doing it with a lot of my kabayans in and out of QL? And may I asked, what's majority to you? Do you know how many Filipinas are here?
Just an advice Padre, don't frequent Qube, you are getting the wrong notion! Good morning Padre!
So why punish those two Muslims? What about the nationals openly soliciting prostitution and cavorting around with their girlfriends? Where's the punishment for them?
Flor12 I got it from a lot of pinoy girls that I have and come accros both on Ql and outside of QL. Maybe the ones I met might be just a minority in Phils but here are the majority of the ones I have come across her!
As the law of the GCC goes, it is simple mixing of opposite in public places is against the law and sex outside of wedlock is a criminal offense. But I guess like Brit said above here there is a law for the rich and one for the poor. It is the poor ones that we hear about being caught.
Guess the rules should be that if yer poor dont have sex here!
I mean sex, not children. Are you changing words, Padre?
I've learned in GCC, freedom is if you have the "who you know"...
even if they caught you F**king to where and who...you can do it again and again.
Pinoys are expert in remembering the two extra rules! Lol!
And honestly Padre, I really wonder where you got that impression of children born out of wedlock? Do you want to compare notes? At least in our country, we don't flaunt it the way the others do!
Pinoy are the expertss in this Field of sex outside of wedlock? Really Flor12 lol
SHARJAH is totally different than DUBAI ..
and they are both muslims thats the reason for being lashed.
But the saddest part of the article is the difference between nationalities ( in term of punishment )
in a real world. Wake up! You can't have it all! Even the smallest house has it's own distinct rule. Respect doesn't mean you agree. But following is only the option!
flor1212,
your world is so tiny!
a murderer after just 14 years to commit another crime? Really hard to comprehend the law!
How can one not see the barbaric side of this so called divine law!
How many more centuries its followers need, to catch up with the rest of the world!?
doesn't know the 11th and 12th Rules! Ask the Pinoys, they are expert on it!
equal rights we all know is theoretical only,unfortunately.in reality,very rare to run up against.this is life.always is unfair.
Don't get your hopes up Betty.
I agree Brit. How many Western expats are running around having sex out of wedlock in the GCC, yet nothing is done to them. But a Bangladeshi has sex and he gets tortured (sorry there's no other word for it)
Sadly, there is one law for the rich and another for the poor ...
pilgram,when qatar win for the 2022 bid for world cup.heard that they will open the country oredi.
personal freedom is not above the country's law
entering someone's house without his/her permission is craziness
both Muslims. And they are govern by the laws. They themselves disrespect the law. There is no absolute freedom!
Poor guy :( When will these countries start to respect personal freedom :(
WK,you're darn right. =)
Oh this case was in Sharjah, different scenario then
Laws in Dubai are the biggest joke..
Prostitution open on the streets and people being lashed for having sex in the privacy of their homes.. Lol....
Yes TB, it is funny that never catch anyone in the hotel, or a well built up compound.
We have a villa in a compound which is frequented by a a local chap in his bentley a few times a week in the evenings with a female in the car. No what should I assume is going on here?
Yes UK, I read the Gulf Times and almost every day there is a case similar to this (without the lashes). But it is almost always because the activity took place in the sponsors home.
Funny how Michelle Palmer has a bottle of wine in the picture and seems like ready for some action. Lucky she was caught on a Dubai beach and not Sharjah..:)
Well I think it is the maid and drivers that get caught mostly in GCC countries. The locals and certain foreigners can get away with having illicit relationships without the authorities troubling them. If they really wanted to nab the real culprits. All they need is to hang out near the Qube on a Thurday night ..:)
That sure looks like it hurt *sighs* Goes without saying I guess "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time" Are these people seriously unaware of the punishments when they commit such acts?Are they not pre warned ahead before they accept employment in ME?
Ps: Hey...Michelle Palmer! long time no see..still playing the victim,huh?funny how her whole story is not revealed!