The Medical Commission's latest report revealing rise on HIV/AIDS cases among the newly-recruited workforce has horrified a wide section of the society as this might contribute in spreading the disease in the country.
It's in today's Peninsula newspaper....any comments
The government is actually implementing mandatory HIV/AIDs tests for citizens. If they have spent a certain amount of time out of the country and then come back to Qatar they are given an HIV/AIDs test. I know this is true for the males, but I dont think for the females.
That said, they are not dragging the guys in, so who knows how much it is enforced, but I do know that it is happening.
What angers me, is that HIV is 100% preventable. Education and awareness is the key!
There are even rapid HIV test kits you can use at home that only take 20 minutes to get the results. The problem is with these, it can take 6 weeks for the virus to show after infection and in that time, you an infect many others.
if you go to "red district" areas of countries with high HIV/AIDS incidents, you will see that mostly tourist frequent on tis areas are westerners (with the exception of Koreans and Japanese nowadays) and they are attracting a lot of local women on these countries.
And again the perception (or reality) that these westerners are also high volume alcohol drinkers, are also reckless in protecting themselves when using the hospiatlity girls (pros......) they take back in their roooms.
And since these tourist are frequent travelers (they can afford it of course) to different countries, thus the perception that all kinds of disease are transmitted by these tourist (mostly but not all are westerners).
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
jackmohan2007.... its no point discussing about the origin of AIDS... its complicated and lets not think over it .... but its certinly there and if infected might cause ur life ... lets face the truth of make utmost precuation when in public and while behind closed doors ... ofcourse not to forget the back seat... precaution, precaution and precaution.... rest is destiny
dmigtysolomon .... respecting the westerners with all respect, please get something precise here, if you talking about UK, I have the stats for UK which is more focussed on the community which is affected and infeceted with the virus
I agree xellos, the origin of HIV/AIDS is much too controversial, we'd argue endlessly on it.
Education is really important and it has to be sensitive to the prevailing culture. I know a lot of highly educated men who compare s*x with a condom to sucking a sweet with its wrapper still on...So they cant be bothered. Unbelievable.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
actually it's a perception regarding spreading of HIV/AIDS virus. Usually, tourist visiting HIV/AIDS prone countries such as but not limited to southeast Asia are mostly westerners so the connotation of the west as source of the virus. And also, the widespread belief that west is famous for "free sex" and free sexual relationship including swift changing of partners contribute to the idea that these viruses are transfered fast by westerners
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
HIV, the infectious agent of AIDS, is thought to have originated in non-human primates in sub-Saharan Africa and transferred to humans during the 20th century. The epidemic officially began on 5 June 1981.
Two species of HIV infect humans: HIV-1 and HIV-2. HIV-2 may have originated from the Sooty Mangabey (Cercocebus atys), an Old World monkey of Guinea-Bissau, Gabon, and Cameroon.[1] HIV-1 is more virulent. It is easily transmitted and is the cause of the majority of HIV infections globally. HIV-2 is less transmittable and is largely confined to West Africa.
It should'nt be much of a problem for the parents if their children are taught about AIDS awareness ..... its only for their benefit at the end of the day
Let them, let's not forget AIDS originated in Africa, and it's the Qatari population that is seeing the fastest rising AIDS rates in the country,not the ex-pat. They need to learn how to use a condom when they go to Bahrain or Thailand, and the effects that bringing home an STD will have on the wives and the kids.
No Filipinos can go-out of the country if tested positive on HIV/AIDS. If anyone catches the virus while in abroad, since there is no mandatory re-medical if there is no change in sponsorship, then the person will remain positive for the virus. But once he changed sponsorship or employer or country of destination, then he needs to go for a medical examination again and HIV/AIDS test is mandatory.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
There is a lot of things going behind the scene. The new laws are being drafted and expected to be submitted for Cabinet approval by 6-12 months time. One proposal is Mandetory test for everydody once in every 3 years
How would you explain to a businessman who comes for a couple of days to have an AIDS test? But don't they sometimes require the services of some nice-looking residents? How about the tourists who stay two or three weeks? Do you want to confine them in some sterile rooms?
And even if you improve awareness? Don't they try to do the same thing with the driving habits? Does it work??
I think there should be mandatory testing for Aids once a year. And there defintely needs to be more awareness. The Qatar Red Crescent is trying but it's information is more of a religious nature then actual fact, which is dangerous. Unfortunatly things like censorship keep the real facts about AIDs from getting out there.
it is now mandatory in medical clearances for a test on HIV/AIDS. So, no first-timer going out of the country to pass the medical test if tested positive.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
I wonder why this worrying is restricted to newly recruited individuals. People fly in and out of the country all the time, and you never know what, God forbid, they are bringing back with them. I always found it a bit silly that we are required to undergo medicals only when we first come here...either we shouldn't have medicals at all or have them yearly.
Another thing is there is almost no awareness of the disease. And no better breeding ground for the spread of a disease than ignorance.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
It's true people get away without performing a medical test for atleast 1 month, but the medical commission is now implementing a new strategy to do medical before the third day of anyone's arrival in the country.
But i guess there should be some measures to prevent the spread from people who are already infected and living in the country am sure there must be a few as it was discovered early last year, few waitresses from a famous restaurants were found +ve ... shocking isnt it and the too was revealed after they had spend sometime in Qatar ... more then 6 months i believe...
Hey this is only a discussion topic .... am not infected
all fxxxkin crap if there is anything like this they will be asking you to come for medical checkup every year or every 6month. You dont need to worry about that.
it's scary.. i think they have to perform a medical exam on the very first day after arrival. Sometimes ppl spend in Qatar 1,2 or even 3 months before they are going to make their medical tests.. who knows how many persons he/she can infect during this period!
On the other hand, that's what I say every time: USE THE PROTECTION, damn it!
Thats not the issue, if you get infected you are finished...
Much of the early response to AIDS in the UK was driven by a fear that the epidemic would eventually spread beyond the minority groups it was originally associated with, and would have a major impact on the general population. In recent years, with HIV not spreading as widely as many had once predicted, HIV prevention efforts in the UK have been focused on the communities most affected, including gay men, people of African ethnicity and injecting drug users.
What have we got in Qatar to prevent it? How abt people who are already infected, and living in the open??
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The government is actually implementing mandatory HIV/AIDs tests for citizens. If they have spent a certain amount of time out of the country and then come back to Qatar they are given an HIV/AIDs test. I know this is true for the males, but I dont think for the females.
That said, they are not dragging the guys in, so who knows how much it is enforced, but I do know that it is happening.
What angers me, is that HIV is 100% preventable. Education and awareness is the key!
There are even rapid HIV test kits you can use at home that only take 20 minutes to get the results. The problem is with these, it can take 6 weeks for the virus to show after infection and in that time, you an infect many others.
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check this out could it be true then we have the solution!
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"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
aids is punishment for the fornicators, those who practice free sex, who had elicit affair, who prefers,one night stands, who dont value marriage.
Look no further...unless and untill the above is not eradicated and cut its sources....aids continues
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
if you go to "red district" areas of countries with high HIV/AIDS incidents, you will see that mostly tourist frequent on tis areas are westerners (with the exception of Koreans and Japanese nowadays) and they are attracting a lot of local women on these countries.
And again the perception (or reality) that these westerners are also high volume alcohol drinkers, are also reckless in protecting themselves when using the hospiatlity girls (pros......) they take back in their roooms.
And since these tourist are frequent travelers (they can afford it of course) to different countries, thus the perception that all kinds of disease are transmitted by these tourist (mostly but not all are westerners).
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
I have noticed...a lot of "drivers" loitering around the Condom area at the malls.....lol
.....usually they pretend to look for some medicines...
seems like they are the safe-drivers......lol
jackmohan2007.... its no point discussing about the origin of AIDS... its complicated and lets not think over it .... but its certinly there and if infected might cause ur life ... lets face the truth of make utmost precuation when in public and while behind closed doors ... ofcourse not to forget the back seat... precaution, precaution and precaution.... rest is destiny
Aids originating from primates is misleading...
HIV attacks Human T cells.
They were created in a laboratory.
If it indeed originated from primates why then it does not affect the primates?
Unlike bird flu the HIV does not cause the animals harm!
dmigtysolomon .... respecting the westerners with all respect, please get something precise here, if you talking about UK, I have the stats for UK which is more focussed on the community which is affected and infeceted with the virus
perception and reality are two different things, so he may well be right in what people here perceive.
it would certainly fit the pattern of blaming everyone else for everything and taking responsibility for nothing.
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I agree xellos, the origin of HIV/AIDS is much too controversial, we'd argue endlessly on it.
Education is really important and it has to be sensitive to the prevailing culture. I know a lot of highly educated men who compare s*x with a condom to sucking a sweet with its wrapper still on...So they cant be bothered. Unbelievable.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
slow down dude!
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"A LADY IS A WOMAN WHO MAKES A MAN BEHAVE LIKE A GENTLEMAN" Russell Lynes
actually it's a perception regarding spreading of HIV/AIDS virus. Usually, tourist visiting HIV/AIDS prone countries such as but not limited to southeast Asia are mostly westerners so the connotation of the west as source of the virus. And also, the widespread belief that west is famous for "free sex" and free sexual relationship including swift changing of partners contribute to the idea that these viruses are transfered fast by westerners
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
There's only one way to deal with it. EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION!
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if you are really concerned check the following Website
http://www.private-hiv-test.com/
You can do it at home.
I guess its taking a different direction now.... lets forget abt the origin of HIV, lets figure out how to deal with it...
yes, well so we have some randy bloke in africa that fancied a bit with a monkey to blame for it then....
nor did I!
HIV, the infectious agent of AIDS, is thought to have originated in non-human primates in sub-Saharan Africa and transferred to humans during the 20th century. The epidemic officially began on 5 June 1981.
Two species of HIV infect humans: HIV-1 and HIV-2. HIV-2 may have originated from the Sooty Mangabey (Cercocebus atys), an Old World monkey of Guinea-Bissau, Gabon, and Cameroon.[1] HIV-1 is more virulent. It is easily transmitted and is the cause of the majority of HIV infections globally. HIV-2 is less transmittable and is largely confined to West Africa.
Supernurse, I did not mean the "geographic" West.
actually, they should be looking a bit closer than 'the west' cos it didn't originate there!
No it isnt.... giving a test is against their pride
Question: is it mandatory for Qataris?
It should'nt be much of a problem for the parents if their children are taught about AIDS awareness ..... its only for their benefit at the end of the day
Let them, let's not forget AIDS originated in Africa, and it's the Qatari population that is seeing the fastest rising AIDS rates in the country,not the ex-pat. They need to learn how to use a condom when they go to Bahrain or Thailand, and the effects that bringing home an STD will have on the wives and the kids.
Visit www.qatarhappening.com
No Filipinos can go-out of the country if tested positive on HIV/AIDS. If anyone catches the virus while in abroad, since there is no mandatory re-medical if there is no change in sponsorship, then the person will remain positive for the virus. But once he changed sponsorship or employer or country of destination, then he needs to go for a medical examination again and HIV/AIDS test is mandatory.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
They will blame the "bad West".
Well then the parents have no one to blame but themselves when their children get AIDS.
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The parents will not allow it!!
I'd rather see mandatory AIDS education in schools.
Visit www.qatarhappening.com
There is a lot of things going behind the scene. The new laws are being drafted and expected to be submitted for Cabinet approval by 6-12 months time. One proposal is Mandetory test for everydody once in every 3 years
Ban Spoon Feeding not Me
How would you explain to a businessman who comes for a couple of days to have an AIDS test? But don't they sometimes require the services of some nice-looking residents? How about the tourists who stay two or three weeks? Do you want to confine them in some sterile rooms?
And even if you improve awareness? Don't they try to do the same thing with the driving habits? Does it work??
It means every Filipino must undergo a medical screening before leaving the country for employment or any travel purposes.
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"A LADY IS A WOMAN WHO MAKES A MAN BEHAVE LIKE A GENTLEMAN" Russell Lynes
I think there should be mandatory testing for Aids once a year. And there defintely needs to be more awareness. The Qatar Red Crescent is trying but it's information is more of a religious nature then actual fact, which is dangerous. Unfortunatly things like censorship keep the real facts about AIDs from getting out there.
Visit www.qatarhappening.com
What do you mean dmigtysolomon ?
it is now mandatory in medical clearances for a test on HIV/AIDS. So, no first-timer going out of the country to pass the medical test if tested positive.
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
who cares////anahmed
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Never.. even if you are the last man in the whole universe... :-p
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
a member for hardly more than 1 hr. trying to seek attention in a cheap way...
I wont disgrace myself further by replying to you ...
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Be aware of the transmission of the disease and its preventive measures. And you'll be safe...in God's will!
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"A LADY IS A WOMAN WHO MAKES A MAN BEHAVE LIKE A GENTLEMAN" Russell Lynes
Well it was a response to what i received ... nothing offensive though ... and am well aware about the forum rules..
What the hell are you Saying watch your mouth you are on Main Forum.
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still alot of cases in the Capital Police which never gets reported.
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anahmed ... grow up dude ... its for public awareness ... I wouldnt give a damn if I was infected ... would put an injection is ur a** first ...lolz
I agree with you labda06..... i guess its much safer to be on a safe side.....Gosh scarry stuff
aha ok fine i will agree after remembering last night incident.
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The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy....Martin Luther King
I wonder why this worrying is restricted to newly recruited individuals. People fly in and out of the country all the time, and you never know what, God forbid, they are bringing back with them. I always found it a bit silly that we are required to undergo medicals only when we first come here...either we shouldn't have medicals at all or have them yearly.
Another thing is there is almost no awareness of the disease. And no better breeding ground for the spread of a disease than ignorance.
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." Barack Obama
Darude ... get into the current affairs its no more crap ... the rate of HIV has increased and its spread by expats .... the stats have revealed it
It's true people get away without performing a medical test for atleast 1 month, but the medical commission is now implementing a new strategy to do medical before the third day of anyone's arrival in the country.
But i guess there should be some measures to prevent the spread from people who are already infected and living in the country am sure there must be a few as it was discovered early last year, few waitresses from a famous restaurants were found +ve ... shocking isnt it and the too was revealed after they had spend sometime in Qatar ... more then 6 months i believe...
Hey this is only a discussion topic .... am not infected
dont you dare get near me popat kuriye :?
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This seems scary... :-/
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
all fxxxkin crap if there is anything like this they will be asking you to come for medical checkup every year or every 6month. You dont need to worry about that.
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it's scary.. i think they have to perform a medical exam on the very first day after arrival. Sometimes ppl spend in Qatar 1,2 or even 3 months before they are going to make their medical tests.. who knows how many persons he/she can infect during this period!
On the other hand, that's what I say every time: USE THE PROTECTION, damn it!
Thats not the issue, if you get infected you are finished...
Much of the early response to AIDS in the UK was driven by a fear that the epidemic would eventually spread beyond the minority groups it was originally associated with, and would have a major impact on the general population. In recent years, with HIV not spreading as widely as many had once predicted, HIV prevention efforts in the UK have been focused on the communities most affected, including gay men, people of African ethnicity and injecting drug users.
What have we got in Qatar to prevent it? How abt people who are already infected, and living in the open??
yeah they should be worry. there is nothing they can do to stop the virus unless find the damn cure
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