Racist Britain disgusting, says star...

nice one

Interesting to see those that are foreign to the UK spouting shyte......you know nothing about the UK......

Maybe the red faced man was right..........lots of reverse racism going on in the UK.....its not PC to shout at black people but its ok for them to 'diss' the caucasians in OUR country!!Kelis should get right back to where she came from!

Interesting to see those that are foreign to the UK spouting shyte......you know nothing about the UK......

Maybe the red faced man was right..........lots of reverse racism going on in the UK.....its not PC to shout at black people but its ok for them to 'diss' the caucasians in OUR country!!Kelis should get right back to where she came from!

ok den take it till tht i will take rest

y pappu has to guide me

oh pappu... smellyindiancoolie is an older Qatar Living user..Hajmola ... pls guide pappu

wht does that mean

this forum needed ex QL user smellyindancoolie

pls help hapy to be more happy with the smell of hajmola after processing

no UKeng... GT surely is no reference i was jus giving the lamest example there is ... but that does not mean relying on local news even in UK is enuf.

Are you the reason of that smell which hapy mentioned?

Listen you smelly Indians and uncultured arabs, you are not allowed to generalize when something happen in Britain, it should only be done when it happens in third world.  'sarcasm alert'

Come on ExLegend any sane person cannot compare the Western Media and GT? I think that is the biggest joke of the day. Have you ever looked at the reference that GT give most of the time they are just copying and pasting form other Western Papers with the obvious censoring of the some news.

So GT is nothing but a cut and paste to suit Newspaper!

and its the title of this forum thats disturbing "Racist Britain Disgusting!" whereas what Kelis said was "racial issues in Britain are disgusting" --- racism wud be disgusting even if it were in Qatar :)

i have nothing against UK but just wanted to add that reading local UK papers and agreeing thats all to read about UK would be naive... just like reading Gulf Times and assuming thats all to know about Qatar.... i guess QL comes up with more info

well the news is the reference we have... but britain is not my concern... wot wonders me is that Ms. Milkshake can go philosophical... :)Despite all the good.... its a part of general knowledge that UK is a failed nation... hence USA exists... and the root cause is racism...There plenty colored living in peace but once in a while they get to taste the bitter part when in certain grounds. now denying that is hypocritical.

pilgram I think I have been very patient with your not so carefully hidden attempts at god knows what - but not very complimentary to the UK - you have been at it all day

Ex Legend - if you have ever been to the uk and spent any amount of time there and read a broad selection of newspapers you will realise that we talk about very little else!!! Parts of the liberal leftie media speak mean it is never off the agenda - and BTW try reading some of the job ads in the guardian for local authority positions - you may change your tune about not addressing said issues!!!

“It’s racially decades behind progression because everything is swept under the rug. People don’t talk about it. People don’t fight about it. Not mentioning a problem doesn’t make it go away.” the girl has insight

I never said the UK was a terrible country with a lot of problems, I agreed with the article on one point, and I consistently said that other countries are facing the same problems, including my own.  Perhaps you should read instead of immediately jumping on the defensive.

Pilgram, sorry you just don't get that on occasion people can and do behave completely out of character, this is what happened in the UK - I am not sure what point you are trying to make - the UK is a terrible country with a lot of problems, sorry to burst your bubble on this point but in my view it has no more problems than a lot of western democratic countries with a liberal rule of law and a permissive society

I don't think normally well behaved people indulge in "moments of madness" unless they are dissatisfied about something.  And something caused the "small" minority to riot as well.  It's like saying the whole halocaust was caused by "herd mentality." 

Actually what you will find is that only a small minority were actually involved in what I would call full fledged violence - most just jumped on the bandwagon and went 'a-robbing' and I would recommend if you goggled in some of the UK newspapers you will find a trend of a section of normally well behaved people who just had indulgend in 'a moment of madness'

So twitter and facebook are what caused the protests in Egypt to?  Social Media is just another cop out to avoid looking at the real issues.

yes Pilgram - twitter

Well we will have to agree to disagree.  I don't think people are that easily swayed into violence and that there has to be a deeper answer somewhere.

Kelis probably was angered mostly because she was not recognised as a star :D

I think for that split second, a lot of them were taken up in the 'heat of the moment' and if you read reports afterwards when they were prosecuted (ie caught red handed) many were quite remorseful because this was so wholly out of character for them.

Major part of it for some (and many were quoted saying as such) was they did not believe they would get caught and if they were they would not be punished  very severely so it was worth the risk. And the reason they were out in such force was due to social media - many people were prosecuted for using twitter etc to incite riots and vandalism.

'fraid to say it was probably nothing more than 'herd instinct'

Then what caused them in your opinion, and do you think the reason is being addressed?

Pilgram - never said anything of the kind - someone else might have done but not me.

I say it's far easier to attribute criminal acts to "a criminal mindset" whatever that means.    Jjj75, the whole point of saying underlying issues is so that people explore what those might be.  Are you saying everyone involved in the riots simply had a "criminal mindset"

BE - especially when it is not clear precisely what is meant by underlying issues

Its all too easy to attribute criminal acts on "underlying issues"..

Thanks TB - still at work!!!!

Well I'm off to the pool... have a geat weekend everyone ;)

UK ENG - quite

jjj75 there were even pensioners involved!

If what you are saying is correct - it still does not explain why there were quite a lot of what I would term has middle class people being involved - well educated, fairly well off etc.  What have they got to be disaffected about?

Of course every society does UK, but does that mean we shouldn't address them?  Just cause everyone has them?

I'm referring to not tackling major problems with the immigration system, with the social welfare system, with the education system, etc. Jjj75.  Should I make a list everytime I post.  And these are not problems isolated to the UK, it just seems to me like the UK never seems to address these issues. 

Pilgram, obviously the society we live in has a major role in the way we behave in? But every society has its ills and goods. :)

Pilgram - you keep on talking about underlying reasons and sweeping things under the carpet but it is not clear what it is you are actually referring to???

I don't believe that people are born criminally minded UK, nor do I believe that what happened in New Orleans after Katrina was the result of simple "opportunists."  People behave in certain ways for reasons, and it does nobody any good to ignore those reasons or refuse to look at underlying issues.  It just makes things worse.

Sorry to ask who is this so called Star Kelis anyway?

 Rotting and looting  spreads across north London following the fatal shooting of Mark Duggan in Tottenham the social media and social networks feulled it all up by saying the killing of the man was racially motivated. what they didn't mention for reasons i don't understand is that  it was Mr. Mark Duggan who first opend fire at the police officers.

TB exactly - we were de-railed a bit

The riots were nothing to do with racism. Nowhere has it been reported that it was. What have the riots got to do with this thread?

Well i was watching it on TV from here in doha and it seemed to me the overwhelming majorty in the  in the mobs were young people  and teens. Besides, my house-mate who at the  time  was in london told me he saw lots 'n lots of school boys and gurls running around the city with hoods on 'n faces covered.

yes but what we see on TV and what is reality are often 2 different things. If you google all the court cases that followed you will see a wide spectrum of people from all walks of life who were being prosecuted in connection with the riots, it is too simplistic to say it was only the 'disaffected youths'

BE - quite, also, I don't understand if she really thought she was being abused, why did she not report it - if anywhere in the UK is full of cameras, it is at passport control/customs (I know this, I had to spend an evening in the company of a very dreary immigration officer and he told me all about it). Plus there would have known this person's identity immediately!!!

Phoenix - did you look at the demographic of who did what in the riots. It was popularly believe to be young people but when we started seeing reports of the court cases - there were a lot of older people at it too - 30's, 40's and 50's

And also, not sure how a life on benefits and the sense of entitlement that brings gives the youth of today any right to feel disaffected?

Kelis was inferring that the riots were related to race. We are saying that this is not true and is misleading. Lets just stick to the discussion on her allegedely getting racially abused.

Pilgram, You have all the right to disagree.There are issues in every society and we as British people are doing our best to deal and live them. But no way would a true law abiding citizen of the UK would go and do what happened in the rights. These were just instigated by criminal minded people and then anyone and everyone just joined when they saw the opportunity.They were just opportunist like the one is New Orleans as jjj75 pointed above.

people didn't wake up  on that day and just decided to go riottin!. What took place in london depicts how increasingly furstrated and angry the youth of today are.

Pilgram - 'swept under the rug' that is a bit of a 'sweeping generalisation'

What is being swept? What type of brush is doing said sweeping and what type of mat is it being swept under??? I am all curious now, seems like a lot of housework is going on???

I would have to disagree UK.  I think there are underlying issues that created the opportunists in the first place.  Happy people don't destroy their own neighbourhoods.

Riots in the UK were not racists or related to any major issues in the UK, there were a pure reactions to what was being posted on social websites and media and opportunist made the most of it. 

They have to do with this post because Kelis said in the rest of her tweets that there are things in Britian being swept under the rug.  I was agreeing with her.

Pilgram - you are interconnecting them in your previous comment - if you know the riots were not racist, I am not sure what they have to do with this post???

As I said, they were very opportunistic - people from all creeds and backgrounds were at it - from students, to nurses, to trainee social workers, to the poor/well off, old and young, male and female, therefore I would say it defies any kind of characterisation.

I know the riots weren't racist jjj75, what they were is a sign that there are issues not being addressed (and I believe still aren't being addressed) in the UK.  I gave other examples of issues not being addressed, like benefits & welfare & immigration. 

Pilgram - to correct you -  the riots were not really racist - just opportunistic - they were people 'on the rob'

A bit like after Hurricaine Katrina in New Orleans with the mass looting

Canadians are different which ones the Native Canadians, The English Canadians or the French Canadians..:) But which ever one you are Pilgram your OK..:p

jjj75 thanks again buddy for your techincal argument..:)Hope Fateh can go and rest now and come back with his other ID..:)

Disregarding the obvious flaws in the story, I must agree with her that Britain does have racial issues that need to be addressed.  The recent riots did show what a tinder box the UK is right now, and I do believe that is because the government, and society, refuse to confront the actual issues, be it immigration policies, welfare policies, etc. Saying that however, I also believe she may not understand British culture very well if she was expecting someone to come to her aid.  My experience with Brit's is that when faced with confrontation they like to blush and mutter to themselves and generally look the other way.  Canadians aren't much different.

Fateh - so I give you some facts - ie it is unlikely that someone British or a european were likely to have made those comments due to logistics e.g. that they do not use the same queue and you conveniently ignore this because it does not fit in with the 'message' that you were trying to get across.

I do not deny that in a country with a diverse population of 60million,  racisim does not happen, I am sure it does but it gets reported and people get prosecuted - All you have managed to do was to bring to our attention a highly suspect article - don't you think that there is a reason why the guardian and daily mail did not print this (the guardian being a paper which loves to highlight this type of thing and the mail being a paper which loves to print anything to do with a celebrity).

As I said better luck next time  - keep scouring, you will find something at some time

But as I think, if you think ill of someone or something and look for the bad in them all the time,  you will at some point find it, nothing and no one is perfect but it is for you as the individual to be reasonable and not to always see the bad

yes jjj,  i read and found it not worthy enough to respond!

Fateh - did you read my original comment?

And if you are going to bandy around the word racist about a QL memeber, I suggest you specify who that is and what they have done that could constitute racism - ie put your money where your mouth is - or keep quiet

..and how easily some of my friends, started mud-slinging, personal/profile attacks...while this news is all there in GT...Funny case of preachers!!!!

Strange, some of regular racists here crying foul of a News in Gulf-Times (not from Daily Mail or Gaurdian...hahahahahaaha) of Qatar !!!

I bet the guy said all sort of things looking at her face (Nigerian..) & would not have dared if he could have seen her passport.... (afterall they blindly follow big-bro US)

BE - I don't either, particularly as he highlighted an easily refutable article

oops sorry abt the  double-posts! connection is gettin stupid

La la-la la la Warm it up. Lala-lalala The boys are waiting! LOL

I have no problem with him posting the article - which is from the Gulf Times. As long as it invites good debate ..

La la-la la la Warm it up. Lala-lalala The boys are waiting!

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TB - all he has done is make himself look extremely foolish by highlighting a very flawed article, that has got nothing to do witih Qatar but everything to do with his own prejudices/chip on his shoulder

Anyone remember her single "Milkshake" ?Loved the video :O)

Well I don't know if he is a Troll as he has been around a while:-User pointsPoints33 - ViewHistoryMember for1 year 23 weeksBut he does seem to feel the need to have a pop at the UK, and I guess he is entitled to that.

BirtExp. ur rite the  riots in london were not abt race. CCT photos showed mobs of white offenders as well as mobs of blacks.

Timebandit you posted something about Trolls yesterday, here you go you have a fine example of one just here!

Not a happy experience for her. Yes, there are racists in the UK – just like anywhere else in the world. Yes, they need to be addressed. However, I would disagree that Britain is decades behind or that the recent riots were due to race. I’m sure that CCTV cameras can identify the idiot in question and she should take her case to court.

jjj75 exactly very good observation.

I think she should visits the middleast some day!

errr - if she was in line at passport control and  accused of queue jumping she would not have been standing next to someone from the UK or EU. For your information, there are separate queues for passport holders from the UK (also EU passport holders join this queue) -   there are not the same checks at passport control as say someone from US or other non EU countries - these queues always take longer

Nice try Fateh, do you spend all your time looking for articles that are disparaging about UK - good effort but no cigar this time

she is wrong in her  generalization. good and bad exist everywhere.

She has a bad encounter with one man and brands the whole country racist and disgusting. The UK is so ethnically diverse, and races far more integrated and tolerant of each other than most other countries in the world.