Parang Kayo, Pero Hindi.
She is a 24-year old copywriter. He is an architect.
They met and became lovers in college. They broke up last year but
remained to be "friends."
They send sweet text messages and he calls her often to make sure
she's okay. They still date. They still have sex.
They don't see anyone else. It is obvious that they still love each
other but when asked about their situation, she doesn't
know the real score. Even
her friends are in the dark. "Parang sila, pero hindi."
She works in a telecom. He is reviewing for the board. They are in
the same barkada. They talk on the phone till 4 am. He gives
her chocolates, flowers and CDs even when there is no occasion. Their
friends are suspecting something. Bakit sila nagsosolo kapag may
overnight inuman? Why does he hold her close on the dance floor? Bakit sila
magkaholding hands lagi?
Sila kaya?
"He hasn't admitted anything," she rants. "But I let him hug and kiss me.
Parang kami, pero hindi."
They work together in an ad agency. After office, they would watch
movie, have dinner and stroll at Glorietta. She gave him Harry Potter books
for his birthday in exchange for posing as her boyfriend to make an ex
jealous. They made out during the company outing in Subic and
never talked about it. He said "I love you" once but she wasn't sure if she
heard him correctly because they were both drunk then. But one thing
she is sure of is her feelings for him. She likes him. And she's
assuming that with what he's doing to her and with her, he likes her, too. There's just one hitch: he has a girlfriend!
She is a 28-year-old virgin. He's a 35-year-old bachelor. Both mountaineers,
they became close during their climbs. After a few dates in posh
restaurants, he brings her to his condo where they would make out.
They have been doing this for months. She wants to believe
that "sila na" but then she's not really sure about it. "We don't talk about
it but it doesn't really matter," she'd tell her friends. "What's
important is I am enjoying this -- whatever it is."
The "parang kayo, pero hindi" stage. Others call it MU or mutual
understanding. Pseudo-relationships. Pseudo- boyfriends.
Flings. Almost like a relationship, but not quite. It is a phase
where the persons involved are more than friends, but not
quite lovers.
Puwedeng may verbal agreement, puwedeng wala. One or both of
you may have admitted your feelings, possible ding hindi. You just let your
gestures do the talking for you. Walang pormal na ligawan na nangyari. Hindi
kayo mag-dyowa.
Pero sa kilos niyo, sa mga sinasabi niyo, parang kayo, pero hindi.
This kind of "relationship" can happen at different stages for
different reasons. It can happen after a break-up. You still
love each other, and you want to be with each other but you broke up for a
reason. A nd for reasons that you alone know, ayaw niyo na muna
magkabalikan.
It can also happen before a relationship, iyong pareho kayong
nakikiramdam. Possible din na ayaw niyo munang mag-seryoso
kaya kunwa-kunwarian lang muna.
Testing lang.
Puwede ring hindi puwedeng maging kayo kasi isa sa inyo --usually
the guy --may ka-relasyon na. Kaya habang hindi pa siya
nakikipag-break doon sa girl (sabi niya makikipag-break siya soon pero di
naman niya ginagawa), wala muna kayong relasyon para nga naman hindi siya
nangagaliwa kasi "hindi naman kayo."
This pseudo-relationship stage, for a time, can be fun. Lalo na kung
naghahanap ka lang naman ng "kalaro."
Pero huwag ka lang mag-e-expect na may patutunguhan kayo kasi wala
talagang kasiguraduhan.
So bakit ang daming nagse-settle sa ganitong set up ganoong hindi
naman sigurado kung may patutunguhan?
Iba't ibang dahilan. Puwedeng for fun lang.
Puwedeng "buti na iyan kesa w ala" or puwede na iyang "pantawid-gutom."
Meaning, habang wala pa iyong the real thing, doon muna sa
kunwa-kunwarian.
For those who are not in a serious relationship, they would think
that pseudo-relationship is better than no relationship
at all. It would be fun, if all you are after for is that "kilig" feeling.
Aminado naman ako na once upon a time, may mga pseudo-relationships
din ako. No commitments involved. For the simplest reason
that they couldn't commit, because they were either committed to someone
else, or that they weren't ready to commit.
My rationalization, "okay na iyun, kesa wala."
Ang habol ko lang naman, iyong kilig feeling. Iyong merong nagtatanong kung
kumusta araw ko. Iyong merong ka-cuddle sa beach outing. Iyong kapag
tumunog ang cellphone, mapapangiti na ako dahil alam
kong galing sa kanya ang message. Iyong merong laging kasama. Habang
wala pa ang the real thing, puwede na itong pagtiyagaan.
But then I learned that although it was only a pseudo-relationship, the
emotions were real. And usually, in this kind of set up, ang babae
lagi ang lugi.
Una, you can't ask him to commit. Since it's not really a relationship, you
can't demand commitment from your partner. Ano ba kayo? May K ka nga
ba magpasundo ng hatinggabi? You will always be uncertain about your
role in his life. You can't expect him to be always there with you. And if
you feel jealous of the other girls, you just have to keep it to yourself.
Ano ka ba niya para magselos?
Pangalawa, what if you fall deeply in love with him?
You can't be sure if he feels the same way. Baka nag-a-assume ka lang
na mahal ka rin niya.
Even if you are dying to tell him you love him, you can't.
Because you're not sure if he'll like it. Baka mapahiya ka lang.
This stage will always make you wonder where you are in the relationship.
Or if there is a relationship at all.
Pangatlo, what if you become attached too much?
What if you have invested all your emotions and this man hasn't?
What if you remain faithful to him, not entertaining other guys,
only to find out that he is seeing other girls?
Isa pang downside ng pseudo-relationships, it is fleeting. When a
disagreement sets in, or when one of you gets cold, then that would
be the end of it. Unlike in a serious relationship, hindi mo
alam kung saan ka lulugar sa isang pseudo-relationship. Wala kang
pinanghahawakan.
Kasi sa pseudo-relationship, there is no "us." Meron lang "you and me,"
hindi "us."
Buti sana kung pseudo-pain din lang ang mararanasan mo. Kaso, hindi
eh. Real pain. And usually, kahit tapos na ang pseudo- relationship, hindi mo
maiwasan umasang one day, may karugtong pa rin iyun. And
you will be miserable, hoping to bring back what you used to have, only
to find out eventually that the guy is in another pseudo-relationship with
somebody else.
Ang h irap, ano? You agreed to this kind of set up for fun and then
you'd end up hurting yourself in the process.
Pero puwede naman maiwasan ang pain eh.
Puwede naman na hindi mo muna isipin ang future and just enjoy the feeling, without thinking of the consequences.
But if you are certain that you are going to hurt yourself in the
process, kailangan mo mamili. You can be happy and live
the moment without worrying what would happen next. Or you can stop settling with pseudo-relationships and wait for the real thing.
When I was younger and in a pseudo-relationship with an unavailable
guy, a friend told me, "Sige, kung ayaw mong magpapigil, bahala ka.
Magpakasaya ka.
Pero huwag kang iiyak-iyak pagkatapos, dahil tatadyakan kita."
Ang bottom line lang naman, kung magpapasaya sa iyo, gawin mo.
Ihanda mo lang ang sarili mo sa consequence. Dahil ang "parang kayo pero
hindi" stage ay bihirang nagiging totoo. Usually, hanggang
doon lang siya ...
almost, but not quite.
come what may and lovin it!!!
Maybe in the end you can see yourself crying...but atleast you've experienced different kind of happiness. I'd rather try it than end up thinking "what could have been if.."
tsk tsk tsk... sounds a bit familiar.
this guy is using her plain and simple. Wake up and smell the coffee and move on and don't waste any more time on him.
these real life situations reminds me of the lines from the life story of ABBA's Agnetha Faltskog... in a song.... THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL....
I dont wanna talk about things weve gone through..
Though it's hurting me, now its history....
I played all my cards...
and that's what you've done to...
Nothing more to say...
No more ace to play...
The God's may throw the dice...
Their minds as cold as ice...
And someone way down here...
Losses someone there...
majh,
beyond satisfaction is discontent so don't settle for just being satisfied,
be loved, it's endless...
till you get tired though.
it's ironic that there are people willing to give such but many settled for just being a spectator or in what you called a "trial version".
well even us we sometimes don't know ourselves what more of the results we make.
it's just like dining savor the moment till it last, then pay the bill and leave, but be sure it's cash for in credit unless you can handle, you'll gonna bear it's interest.
^_^ imho.
I have no comment in this threads coz im too young for this
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Life is short...300 meter before roundabout!
avishai yes it is a staisfaction but who knows what is beyond those feelings or satisfaction whereas the relationship started like as if and as if it is not both are waiting ...
well both benefited in each other...
the guy on this girl "without" commitment and the girl to this guy "with" the comfort of happiness.
both gained their individual price.
but in a true sense of a relationship or two-together is not in the price of each own but the rewards of being one.
no offense, but i think people in this kinda situation are not bounded by love at all but needs that both have been trying to satisfy for quiet sometime till one wakes up and realizes that the need is no longer necessary for them whilst the person.
i think it's the need to be loved that drives him/her to this, it should also be that same reason to overcome it.
you need to be loved, not just be satisfied!
just look for someone who loves you to satisfy you not just loves satisfying you.
^_^ best of luck. imho.
Jamesknight its "when love begins"... my super fave tagalog movie. never get tired of watching this movie.
for sure many will join in the discussion!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
for me this story seems like in Aga Muchlach & Anne Curtis movie. Can't remember the title.
"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did."
chai try assess if the feelings is for the right one or he just right there for you ...correct to savor and enjoy being single but try some other guys who can be your father, brother or whatever....
Lol! Maybe Dekyo, Grandfatherlike! or North, same grandfatherlike! Lol!!!!!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
majh feelings are still there.. weve been friends for more or less than 6 yrs without attachment and more than a yr as "parang kayo pero hindi" his been my best best friend.. a fatherlike, a brother and my no. 1 enemy roll into one.
we are still both single and i'm hoping for that one day...but for now i got loads of boys hanging around with me. :P enjoy and savor singleness LOL not ladylike :D
entitle it "Akala mo lang 'un" (that's what you think! Lol!!!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
Chai the feeling is still there because you're hoping that you will be together again and expecting more ore less hoping a right one will come along the way ...let your feelings flow if it comes it will become
and in the afternoon, eat aysklem!!!!!!!! Lol!!!!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
hahaha DMS! common! :P
maybe plum either one of them can't commit.. for me i'd rather advise her to move on if they are unsure. just like what i did!
Lol!!!!!!!!!! You'll forget him, for sure!!!! Aysklem????
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
hayzzz... i know the feeling. been there.., til now i still love that person and i can't see anyone could ever replace him in my heart :(
i'm still hoping that the right one will come soon... or i might be loving him til the rest of my life.
(how i wish). . . its up to you if you will take it to the next level. seems like you just both afraid of commitment. anyway a piece of advice be satisfied for now. time will come.
" In my opinion only. . . nothing personal"
my apologies (paumanhin po) next time i'll do that
sai, well i guess it's ok, IF the price is right... this is a damn long thread to translate it's gonna cost him more than a cup of latte... :P
don't worry PAJJU, me & MJ will translate it for u
tonite over a cup of coffee :)
is that alright partner?
MyHotComments +
right, it's "friends w/benefits"...
for me, no probs...as long as "wlang ibang taong nasasagasahan"...
Majh, yah its should be in the filex group...
(pati ako nalilito)...sorry :)
MyHotComments +
lol Pajju :P
ok MJ bebsi and bobcorn :)
lol Pajju , im too damn busy to translate for you... and besides, I ain't gonna do it for free... :P
dms, he/she cannot remove the thread since it is in the main forum, she can re-post it in the Filex forum anyway..
MJ translate blzzzzzzzzzz :))
to know that you are in the main forum. English is the only language accepted here. Slowly, removed your thread and go to Filex group and re-post your piece! Thank you!!!!!
"Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship"
mjamille ooppps sorry
"friends with benefits".... this should be either moved to the Filex forum or translated in English as it was posted in the main forum.. :)