Pakistani and Filipina can marry? where?

Crystal7
By Crystal7

Your answers will be really helpful. thanks in advance to all.

i am a filipina converted to muslim 1 year ago and my boyfriend is a muslim from pakistan but born here in qatar. he is married with 1 daughter. his family somehow knows about our relationship but they are against it and didn't accept us to be together. he tried to tell them that he wants to marry me and they said no.

can we get married secretly? or anyone can help us? maybe later on his family can accept us... we are not loosing hope.

By anonymous• 27 Sep 2010 08:16
anonymous

you could try Vegas...i hear they specialize in these sort of situations...

By FathimaH• 27 Sep 2010 06:29
FathimaH

Mashallah..you are a brave girl and Inshallah you will find true happiness soon..Aameen! Allah promises us in the Quran "After hardship comes ease" and for every hardship we are tested with we are given two eases and unlike human beings who are prone to be ungrateful at times towards another God will reward any good we do for his sake with much better! May Allah grant you the best in this world and the next..aameen!

By rubypavino• 27 Sep 2010 05:21
rubypavino

good girl crystal,u made the right decision...its just a matter of time to forget him...i am sure u will meet a single and responsible one,be careful next time..wish u more happiness in life.

By Crystal7• 27 Sep 2010 01:02
Crystal7

i'm decided... will leave him, hard but i have to.

*sighed

By natasha77• 26 Sep 2010 23:25
natasha77

I can't believe how some people can be mean. Crystal you have to use your head and not just your heart. Apple is right. if he wants to marry you he can marry you as soon as possible. He is not free. But do you really want to spend the rest of your life as a second wife and being hated by your in laws? I am sure you can find another man who is single. A man you can call your own and not have to share with another woman. Its hard enough having a relationship with a man of different culture, what more with a man who has no balls. Sorry, thats what he is. I know a lot of women who went through this. But the ending is all the same. The men had no balls to stand up to their families. And they are single men. not like your bf.

Wake up girl. Move on. Forget him.

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 21:01
nomerci

Fathimah, no reason to be embarrassed. I just thought I mention it, as many people may not even be aware of it.

Thank you for the translation too. :)

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 20:46
FathimaH

point noted. actually I know and understand only a few Arabic terms myself! *blushing embarrassed* Just like to put them to practice as much as pos =)

FeeAmanillah = Allah bless you

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 20:12
nomerci

Fathimah, lol. But seriously, can't you just say it in English? It would make things easier, and moreover, one could learn something and understanding would be encouraged.

See, I have read many posts about Islam, but so very many people pepper them with non English terms and that kind of makes me just give them a glance and then turn away, simply because I can't understand.

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 20:06
FathimaH

and I thought I was slow tonight! At least I can plead fasting and not having eaten a full meal yet =D

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 20:02
nomerci

Geez, for a moment I thought you sayd fRee Amanillah....and I thought who the heck is Amanillah.....;)

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 19:55
FathimaH

Fee Amanillah!

By Crystal7• 26 Sep 2010 19:38
Crystal7

i am totally absorbing what u r writing fathimah and nomerci, thanks alot to both of u.

may Allah bless us all

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 19:26
nomerci

Fathimah, I think people like you and even those who practice less, those who have a "live and let live" attitude are the ones who need to be seen...a lot.IMHO

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 19:12
FathimaH

but its a trial upon us Muslims that today its either the radical extremists or the opposite of them that are in the limelight more than those who chose to be upon the middle path,which is that of the Prophet and his rightly guided sahabahs, and we are now fewer in numbers=( But yes more the reason then why we should work harder to spread the message and also practice it ourselves better..This is what we are commanded to do and this is our jihad.Shukran habibthy =D

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 18:57
nomerci

Fathimah, I am glad you posted the above post. And I am sure there are many people like you, sadly the "other ones" get the press.....maybe it is about time that you, your sisters and brothers stood up and clarify all the issues that tarnish Islam. :)

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 18:47
FathimaH

Personally I don't like dissing anyone in public but take it from me the above reply is from Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid who has been refuted by many scholars for many many reasons. Yes some people still quote out of him and still regard his opinions but to them I must just warn that as the final hour gets closer true knowledge will be lifted and calling to falsehood will increase..Audubillah from such trials!

Scholars advice brothers to always tell your wives as its of good manners and good character to do so. and they warn them to do unto other women what they would want for their own daughters,mothers,and sisters. Its understood most women will feel jealousy at some point but the choice is the first wife's too. You can stay married to him and accept your co wife or divorce him. This is a choice you have.

I know for many non Muslims and even many Muslims they may see it that in polygyny women are losers but trust me when I tell you, as I have now many friends from all over the world who are co wives, the blessings in polygyny are there too and maybe sometimes more for the women than the man! But that said let me add none of my friends husbands married them through flirtatious liaisons rather they all married the manner which I mentioned before, Alhamdullillah! And maybe thats why these women will tell you only the blessings of having co wives, Allahu alim!

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 18:32
nomerci

Fathima, one should hope so.

Never the less, in light of the post above, I do have little hope.

As it basically says that a man CAN marry another wife without telling the current one...and if he does tell her, he may have to spend money to gain her acceptance. That in itself is not acceptable to me, on so many levels.

Plus, saying that women are naturally jealous....well, I wonder how men would feel if their wives would tell them they wish to marry another man....not jealous? Lol.

I can understand it if a couple does not have any feelings for each other , for what ever reason, then I can see where money comes into the picture.....

By Crystal7• 26 Sep 2010 17:20
Crystal7

http://www.islamawareness.net/Marriage/fatwa_05.html

Going for Second Marriage: Do I Need Wife’s Permission?

http://www.islamonline.net/

Question and Answer Details

Name of Questioner

Jamal - Saudi Arabia

Title

Going for Second Marriage: Do I Need Wife’s Permission?

Question

Dear sheikh, As-Salaam `Alaykmu wa Rahamtu Allah wa Barakatuh. Does the husband need the first wife’s permission to have a second wife? Jazakum Allah khayran.

Date

30/Jul/2002

Name of Counsellor

Muhammad Saleh Al-Munajjid

Topic

Marriage, Polygamy, Marital relationships

Answer

Wa`alykum As-Salamu Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner! Thanks a lot for your question and the interest you show in having a clearer view of the true teachings of Islam. May Allah help you get the right understanding and stand firm on the Straight Path! Amen!

In Islam, marriage is a solemn contract for which the Shari`ah lays down rules and arrangements to guarantee its stability. Though Islam permits man to have more than a wife, it stipulates that certain conditions are to be met in this regard, for Islam’s main focus is on building a stable marital life.

Answering your question, Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, states:

“If a man is able to take a second wife, physically and financially, and he can treat both wives in a just manner, and he wants to, then he is allowed to do so according to Islam. Allah says, “Then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four.” (An-Nisa’: 3)

It is well known that women are by nature jealous and reluctant to share their husband with other women. Women are not to be condemned for this jealousy, for it existed in the best of righteous women, the wives of the Companions, and even in the Mothers of the Believers. But women should not let jealousy make them object to that which Allah has permitted, and they should not try to prevent it; a wife should allow her husband to marry another woman for this is a kind of cooperating in righteousness and piety.

The first wife’s consent is not a prerequisite for a man to take another wife. The Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas was asked about this and replied as follows:

It is not obligatory for the husband, if he wants to take a second wife, to have the consent of his first wife, but it is good manners and kindness to deal with her in such a manner that will minimize the hurt feelings such thing might produce. So it’s incumbent on the husband to be kind to his wife, discuss the matter with her in a gentle and pleasant manner, and this should be coupled with spending whatever money may be necessary in order to gain her acceptance of the situation.”

Excerpted, with slight modifications, form: www.islam-qa.com

So in the light of the above, it’s clear that the matter is not just having a right to do so, it’s how you use that right. As we have said in many fatwas how Islam caters for the rights of women, men should not tamper with rights that Islam made inalienable to women, part of which is to respect their humanity. They are not property that can be done with at any time without any consideration; women are life partners.

Allah Almighty knows best.

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 15:53
FathimaH

Your most welcome..I always hope and pray that by hearing such stories of how shamelessly certain Muslims behave that non Muslims do not misjudge Islam. I sincerely mean this..not trying to be apologetic. But certainly the Islam revealed by Allah and spread by the Prophet is far away from such vile practices.

By FathimaH• 26 Sep 2010 15:45
FathimaH

Barakhallah feeki sis..yes I would like to hear from you too. Just drop me a pm. May Allah make it all easy on you,habibthy..trust me I understand what you must be going through. Wasalaam

By nomerci• 26 Sep 2010 12:21
nomerci

Thank you Fathimah.

By [email protected]• 26 Sep 2010 09:00
roseesocta@yahoo.com

@ crystal...

Love is the greatest gift of God but think a billion times before you decide to marry secretly your boyfriend.

Could you imagine the situation his already married and had a kid and his parents disagree in your relationship.

I know this is very difficult decision but think about your self first.

1. If he really love you he will fight for it no need to hide.

2. You said he was married and had a kid it means if you marry him your the second wife and soon both of you build a family you never think the consequences.

3. If his single maybe it works but not..

4. I know it is very hard to decide,very painful,and your heart turn into pieces...I think your old enough to decide what is the best for yourself..

even if, you love that person set him free make your own as in your OWN.

Its not too late think about it.

I hope it can help you...but the last decision is yours!

By Confus3d• 26 Sep 2010 08:21
Confus3d

You cant marry him

By Crystal7• 26 Sep 2010 08:17
Crystal7

at viktoria,

i got your point, it will be very to hard to separate for now...

By Crystal7• 26 Sep 2010 08:16
Crystal7

at fatimah, i higly appreciated your explanations, i would like to hear more from u.

By Victoria5518• 26 Sep 2010 08:10
Victoria5518

its up to you now to decide, all these informations given to you are helpful. You have to decide not only for urself but what is good for u in the future.

it will be very painful if u leave him now, but it will only be for awhile dear! after a year or two u will get fully get over him.

look at urself in the future not at present.

i wish u all the very best. u deserve true love and commitment.

Cheers!

By FathimaH• 25 Sep 2010 22:40
FathimaH

Yes I know what you mean,nm...this too now seems to be a growing trend among many Muslim men the world over, marrying and divorcing at whim simply to either satisfy their sexual gratifications or to have hundreds of kids. Its deffo not a part of the pure sunnah as in Islam we are warned that divorce is a something not to be played around with and how evil it is to divorce without a very vallied reason. Sadly many men are doing this today. In fact an American friend of mine told me many horror stories of having married a man, moved states to stay with him, only to be told a day or two later,after they slept together that the guy felt he "wasn't ready for commitment" Audubillah!

As for old as the hills men marrying younger girls then thats really sad. They make the excuse of the Prophet marrying 'Aisha forgetting he, Muhammaed was blessed with great strength and handsome looks, more than any man today! Of course then divorce is inevitable cos the man cannot satisfy the woman! this happens in Sri Lanka as well and its just terrible!

By nomerci• 25 Sep 2010 22:02
nomerci

Fathimah, this is not what I meant. I know, 4 wives at a time. What about those men who constantly divorce and re-marry...therefore adding up on the number of wives all together. Like some 86 year old man with 60 kids and marrying another 20 year old woman.

although extreme, this is the kind of thing I asked about.

By FathimaH• 25 Sep 2010 21:57
FathimaH

I tried keeping it as short as possible so didn't include the references.

By FathimaH• 25 Sep 2010 21:54
FathimaH

the maximum number of wives a man can have is four. though the Prophet had more than four this was a privilege allowed for him alone since he married wives for far more noble reasons than men today can or will marry for!

By britexpat• 25 Sep 2010 21:51
britexpat

Great explanation.. Thanks

By britexpat• 25 Sep 2010 21:43
britexpat

Under civil law in many Islamic countries - Yes.

Under Shariah - No!

By nomerci• 25 Sep 2010 21:34
nomerci

Thank you Fathimah.

What about men one hears of...having had 20 wives and more (not all at the same time) and dozens of children? Is that considered islamically right?

By Mr. Doha• 25 Sep 2010 21:28
Mr. Doha

it had all been said...negative and positive comments are overflowing here...its up to you now to decide... its your life and happiness but think think think the outcome of your decisions... gudluck... =)

By FathimaH• 25 Sep 2010 21:23
FathimaH

A man can have more than one wife and it may be for the reasons you stated like to help out single women in trouble or to have more children but he is also permitted to take more wives simply for the reason that he desires another wife. However his method of proposing should be that he either approaches a male from her family or a female or in case of some converts and orphans a man appointed her "wakeel" (sort of like a lawyer) This is how a proposal of marriage is made in Islam..period. Having "affairs" and "falling in love"etc is not a part of the sunnah! Yes you can talk to the woman and get to know her as well as see her without hijab even as a part of the proposal proceeder before both parties agree to the marriage but here too there are boundaries one cannot cross like indulging in lewd conversations and/or kissing and hugging etc.

And once a man actually takes on more than one wife he has to provide for all of his wives equally in terms of time, financial support, and physical intimacy etc. Many men today forget all of this in their lust for having more women which is why we here of stories like the OP. and which is why many people of knowledge do not recommend it to everyone and warn those who do want it to fear Allah and think ten times over!

By nomerci• 25 Sep 2010 21:00
nomerci

Fathimah, you may be able to clarify a question I have.I know that in Islam a man CAN have 4 wives. I have read in the holy Qur'aan that this is legal, but not highly recommended. I also read that each and every wife has to be treated the same. Besides that, a second, third and fourth wife should be taken according to certain principles, 1. she is a widow, 2. the other wife/wives can not have children , etc.

Basically, from what I understood, taking more than one wife has to be to help out those women, and certainly not for reasons as "we are in love", or "it is better than cheating" etc.

What is your opinion on this?

By Good old joe• 25 Sep 2010 20:40
Good old joe

Very nice but girl life seems to be nice and free where you are now but have you thought about when he takes you back home and puts you in a cage from where you will never be able to fly away. Use yr head and not your fleeting emotions

By Mark lester• 25 Sep 2010 14:13
Mark lester

best thing to do is in the phillipines........

By FathimaH• 25 Sep 2010 13:10
FathimaH

I do find it sadly amusing how a man has extra marital affairs and/or indulges in flirtatious relationships then justifies them saying he can get married to more than wife "according to the sunnah" Damn right the Prophet and other noble predecessors practiced polygyny but did any of them get about it this way? Audubillah!

Maashallah Apple..Barakhallah feeki for all your kind words. Hope the OP appreciated it too.May Allah grant us all his blessings and guidance in abundance..Aameen!

By blue_rose• 25 Sep 2010 12:57
blue_rose

agree with xena

By Xena• 25 Sep 2010 12:54
Xena

you posted this on QL to get an unbaised opinion?

I hate to disillusion you, but some people on QL are way more judgemental than your friends would ever be.. the evidence which you have seen here.

Saeedkan, why are you being so rude to Apple? As someone who has gone through all of this, don't you think she would know what its all about? You are not the only one with a knowledgeable opinion....

Crystal, you need to make this decision now, you have your replies, judgemental and helpful... its all up to you now.

By stealth• 25 Sep 2010 12:45
stealth

dp....

By stealth• 25 Sep 2010 12:37
stealth

you need to careful. he was already 2-timing his wife. That means he was committing adultery according to Islam and for which he should be stoned to death.

By Swine Flu• 25 Sep 2010 09:23
Swine Flu

it's Hindu marriage act born by Indian government. Not in Hindu religion. I said about religion not about act.

By Swine Flu• 25 Sep 2010 09:21
Swine Flu

Islam permitted a man to marry up to 4 based on some conditions. In this case he must get permission from first wife to go for second marry which is first condition to have more than one wife in Islam. But this guy's wife said NO to second marry. So, he can't.

By anonymous• 25 Sep 2010 09:13
anonymous

Swine Flu I can have only 1 wife as per the Hindu marriage act. There is a limit of 1.

http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/hindumarriageact/hindumarriageact.htm

By brave_heart• 25 Sep 2010 09:07
brave_heart

Crystal, definitely your bf has no balls. If he loves you & wanted to marry you, he can what ever religion he has as long as it is legal & moral.

By Swine Flu• 25 Sep 2010 09:05
Swine Flu

He cannot marry 4 unless he gets permission from previous wife each time he is going to marry. It's not only worth to permission from previous wife, some conditions also there that he need to follow. And not only he, any men in any religion can have more than on wife.

By Ana.Ganda• 25 Sep 2010 08:57
Ana.Ganda

wake up....do u want to be a second wife? and in religion if the first wife says no it means NO so there is no chance for u and him to get married... and think about it...he can marry up to 4 right? what if after u he will married again will u be strong enough to handle it common girl think.

dont make u llife miserable....there is a beautiful life waiting for u out there...gising.....

By Ana.Ganda• 25 Sep 2010 08:35
Ana.Ganda

girl if the wife says no it mean there is no chance for and ur bf to get married.....and to think that he is muslim can u handle if he will get married again after u bec in their religion they can marry up to 4 right....wake up girl.. there is a beautiful life waiting for u out there....think about it....and hope u will come up with a good decision....dont ruin ur life girl ........WAKE UP

By Wadi Arte• 25 Sep 2010 06:55
Wadi Arte

Do not marry him. Do not ruin 4 lives. Open your eyes. Stop being the one who is about to ruin everything.

By Swine Flu• 25 Sep 2010 02:29
Swine Flu

no limit means as much as you wish. If you know that any religion put a limit on it just make me correct please.

By anonymous• 25 Sep 2010 02:26
anonymous

Swine Flu all other religions say no limit???

Who told you that?

By Swine Flu• 25 Sep 2010 02:24
Swine Flu

brother, please don't give bad impact about Islam to non Muslim. You just wrote in your first reply to this thread that "he can marry 4 wives". If you write this to any non Muslim then should elaborate it. It's not as simple as you wrote a Muslim man can marry 4. Some conditions applied behind it that you know I think. Note it that Islam is the only religion where a man allowed to marry up to 4(off course some conditions there)& other all religion says no limit.

By Rev.s• 25 Sep 2010 01:46
Rev.s

Lying to Your Own heart, Crystal if he is lying to his wife and keeping relationship with you, do u really think he will ever marry you ? wake up yourself false hopes is not the way to lead your life its bitter but truth face it now before its to late. Best of Luck to you

By Apple• 25 Sep 2010 01:34
Apple

Ok thanks, same here. nyt! :)

By Apple• 25 Sep 2010 01:23
Apple

Tell me which one?

If a married man cheating behind his wife playing with other woman is not a BS for you?...then I dont know what BS means for you. I am just trying to show her(CRYSTAL) the real picture. The guy is fooling her, period!

By KHATTAK• 25 Sep 2010 01:15
KHATTAK

I wish if I could...... Okie, forget it :(

By FriedChicken• 25 Sep 2010 01:12
FriedChicken

why don't you go to sleep???

By Apple• 25 Sep 2010 01:07
Apple

SAEEDKHAN, you seems the one giving wrong direction for her. You clearly wrote above the requirements of marriage, and there is no way mentioned about HIS parents consent is necessary to legalized their marriage. If they will die of shock then that is their fate, if they will die of accident then may their soul rest in peace. But you forget that "respecting parents" and "controlling your son" are two different story.

The guy told her that he wants to marry her but her parents disaggree. And for me that is BS!!!...if he wanted to marry her, he can do it without his parents consent. But the guy is obviously playing with her. And Btw, dont worry about me, I am married in shariah and I know what am saying.

@CRYSTAL- think not only twice, but hundred more times. Marriage is lifetime. If you ask my opinion? Its a big NO for marriage with him, but the decision is still yours.

By rubypavino• 25 Sep 2010 01:01
rubypavino

guys..lets just hope we help her to sort things out and may she have a peace of mind...God Bless U crystal.

By Khanan• 25 Sep 2010 00:56
Khanan

you are the one confusing her and seems to me that you only got the correct advice :P

By rEzyz• 25 Sep 2010 00:51
rEzyz

no saeed bhai, i watched golmaal... :b

By rEzyz• 25 Sep 2010 00:43
rEzyz

both get married and keep it secret... fly to some other destination, once it done... no one would creat obstacle...

By TailChopper• 25 Sep 2010 00:42
TailChopper

OK MAMOO...lol

By KHATTAK• 25 Sep 2010 00:41
KHATTAK

Stay Away from Pakistanis.

Saeed...lower your caps, its getting on my nerves :(

By rEzyz• 25 Sep 2010 00:40
rEzyz

wow what an interesting topic, i m loving it...

long live pak-phillipines love... ;b

By Muhammed12• 25 Sep 2010 00:35
Muhammed12

as far as i know,

the man has to ask permission from first wife

unfortunately i dont have the source.

u always need to have source that is the script (Quran, Hadeeth)

Its best u ask learned scholars so u get the correct answer.

here is a website, they have lots of answers:

http://qa.sunnipath.com/

if ur related scenario question isnt there, u ask..u will get answered by a learned scholar.

By TailChopper• 25 Sep 2010 00:32
TailChopper

good crystal...just forget him

By Crystal7• 25 Sep 2010 00:30
Crystal7

i will try to forget him............

By rubypavino• 25 Sep 2010 00:28
rubypavino

missy,then use ur conscience...u cant live ur life having a burden in ur heart..

By Crystal7• 25 Sep 2010 00:18
Crystal7

at Apple, thanks for this strength. my concen, how about his parents? he said that his mother told him, "marry her and forget u have a mother and a father". that is killing me..

he said if he is just single then he marry me from before

By Victoria5518• 25 Sep 2010 00:16
Victoria5518

ahh.....what is happening?

Love is not always happy ending, it is not always happy.

I hope i can be numb, love always complicates life.

Cheers!

By Apple• 25 Sep 2010 00:14
Apple

As a woman, I can understand how you feel.

But come on girl, if he really wants to marry you, he can marry you on SUNDAY! The Shariah Court is open for marriage morning and evening. Ask him to come with you anytime this week for marriage, I bet alot of Qler's will volunteer to witness you. Count me in.

If you need a friend to talk send me a message. I am Filipina Muslim also and married to Muslim Arab.

By anonymous• 25 Sep 2010 00:11
anonymous

how naive some people are for accepting being a second, third, fourth and make the list long to be a girl friend, but hard to digest to become a second legal life partner.

By Crystal7• 25 Sep 2010 00:01
Crystal7

i am well monitored to the thread saeed, analyzing

By anonymous• 25 Sep 2010 00:01
anonymous

Ok here is my opinion.

He doesn't want to marry you

He wants to have an affair

He obviously doesn't want his wife to find out so a "secret"

He is not the only married guy I know in Doha doing this so not really surprised

You should get away from him.

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 23:59
Crystal7

at Apple, yes i didnt know from start, when i found out, he cried and told me he is afraid that i will leave him. i accepted him bcoz i love him too...

wallah i am so confused...

i posted it bcoz i want to know advices and opinions from people i dont know, coz if i know then they will be biased.

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 23:52
Crystal7

so confused... :'(

By rubypavino• 24 Sep 2010 23:51
rubypavino

saeed,ur right she is confused but still she is the one who will decide..we are just here to give advice,be it good or bad.

By Apple• 24 Sep 2010 23:50
Apple

Please understand this, there is NO secret marriage in Islam. He dont need approval from his parents to get married, He dont need approval from his 1st wife to marry another wife but "at least" inform her that he is getting married a second wife and the least thing she can do is ask for divorce. Now, if he is telling you that he wants to marry you but his parents DISAGREE about it then is obvious that he is "cheating" on his wife and "playing" with you?

A Muslim man can marry a Muslim girl, a Christian and a Jew. Requirements as follows:

1) There is consent of both parties

2) There is consent from the parents/guardian of the GIRL, a father or an uncle or brother, but since you are a reverted Muslim then the judge himself can stand as your guardian.

3) There are 2 male witnesses or equivalent to 4 female

witnesses.

4) There is Mahr or Dowry for the bride.

The requirements never mentioned that you need consent from HIS parents. Which clearly means he is lying on you. Do you know that he is married with one kid before you indulge into relation with him? If YES, then shame on you! If NOT, then shame on him not to tell you the truth. Wake up girl!

By rubypavino• 24 Sep 2010 23:44
rubypavino

khanan,i believe crystal is having a second thought now..

By Khanan• 24 Sep 2010 23:39
Khanan

cannot do anything about it..

Everyone had different opnion over here so whom you gonna listen?

My 2 cents..arrnaged or forced marriage, there is alot of difference between them.

The guy is betraying you...

By rubypavino• 24 Sep 2010 23:39
rubypavino

since u already read some of the advices here i just wish u will make a wise decision,its good to be in love but sometimes u have to sacrifies,think it over coz u cant hide the truth.

By Good old joe• 24 Sep 2010 23:33
Good old joe

and how would you know girl if he does not have another two wives tucked somewhere back home without you or the first wife knowing about it. Well you sure could find some nice life long partners then this short term fling which you might live to regret

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 23:33
Crystal7

he was arranged marriage... now we love each other... im serious about this

By TailChopper• 24 Sep 2010 23:09
TailChopper

If somebody wants to commit suicide

send me a PM , i have some pain-free methods to suggest

you will be charged before procedure

ignore the haters

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 23:09
anonymous

another house to be ruined congrats hope you will have the same pain his wife will have when she discover this

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 23:05
anonymous

Sugar Qtr if someone posts here, I want to commit suicide. Will you advise her not to do it or will you tell her where to get the poison?

By Ice Maiden• 24 Sep 2010 23:03
Ice Maiden

Use your head girl. Do you want to be a second wife? And that too without the first wife knowing? You will have to "share" your hubby. Are you willing to do that? Depending on the circumstances, during diffcult phases of your married life, you won't be able to go to him or his family for help or support. Can lead to a lot of fights and frustation. Can you cope with that? And what about when you have kids? What rights will they have?

Think it through carefully girl.

By TailChopper• 24 Sep 2010 22:51
TailChopper

Send me a PM, I will arrange your nikah!

you will be charged for the service.

ignore all these haters.

By Desert Diva• 24 Sep 2010 22:38
Desert Diva

Why would you want to be number 2?

By triparound• 24 Sep 2010 21:48
triparound

I believe religion has nothing to do with your problem, it is the excuse. Openess,honesty,integrity, are the words you need. love and longing belong to the heart and there needs to be two hearts together, with the need to love and belong. If they are not, then togetherness with happiness will not happen. Your present track will only lead you to misery.

By DOSTI• 24 Sep 2010 20:41
DOSTI

saeed bhai i must tell every one here every body keeps on saying muslim can marry four yes this is right but should know there are terms and condition NOT FOR FUN there are reson please ask some good muslim

and sayed bhai he can marry 2nd without asking permisson from his 1st wife and talking about parents its good if you seek there permisson but even without permissson you can marry this parents permission is required in girls case if father if he is alive/mother if not uncle/mother sohuld be agreed if she married against there will marriage will not be counted

sister this is your personal matter and you are self dependent dig out the truth and take wise decetion lots of advices will make you confused get and take charge

best wishes for you

By Sugar Qtr• 24 Sep 2010 20:38
Sugar Qtr

She isn't looking for your advice people. Who cares if she is sinning and her boyfriend is cheating? Crystal7, go to AL Fanar and ask them how you can marry this man. I for one would never want to be with a man when his family will never accept me. If I have children and I die, who will take care of them? The family that hate me? Never will do that to my children.

Good luck!

By snessy• 24 Sep 2010 20:17
snessy

He's currently cheating on his current wife with you, he'll probably do the same to you at some point...

By FathimaH• 24 Sep 2010 20:06
FathimaH

"Oh dear..another one" Yes a man can have up to 4 wives according to shariah law but there are many conditions applied to polygyny . among them is that the man should fear Allah and treat all wives with equality. As for the OP, it seems the two of them have been having a "relationship" which is itself haraam in Islam. Hence I hope Chrystal you think hard about this situation. Do you really want a man who cheated on his wife?As a convert I don't know how much you have learned about Islam in one year so perhaps you are unaware of the sinful aspect of your whole courtship. Do you expect Allah to bless your marriage when its built on what's unlawful?think long and hard and fear Allah. Anyways I know this is not what you seek counsel on but as your sister I cannot leave this post without advising you. as for if you can get married then sure you can..legally. I know many sisters who have become second wives here in Qatar. Yes there are regulations involved but I'm guessing nothing too complicated. However heed the advice of Brit...are you sure the guy's for real? Barakhallah feeki dear sis..May Allah guide you to do what's right. Wasalaam

By enoof• 24 Sep 2010 20:04
enoof

very good advises,saeedkan,keep up the good work man.

By blue_rose• 24 Sep 2010 19:35
blue_rose

hhmmm...

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 19:23
anonymous

Oh dear... Another one

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:22
beautynbrain

Saeed- we cant curse anyone. its their own life. As this girl has asked some advise, I felt to let her know what all can happen. Rest is their wish...

and ofcourse, nothing is impossible if he is agreed to marry u in court..

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:19
beautynbrain

Crystal- being married, I can tell u that, u wont be able to take the pain when ur hubby comes to and says that he wants to get married to some other girl. U keep urself at his wife's place who has one kid already.

I understand love is blind, but dont let others to use you in any ways.

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 19:18
anonymous

saeed but u know i hate when someone is destroying families and making other people suffer...she said she is muslim...what for a person especially a muslim can do that?!!!

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:15
beautynbrain

saeed- i dint understand a single word in ur last post...

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:12
beautynbrain

and here my intension is, even after she get married to him, he may go for another marriage...will she accept???

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 19:12
anonymous

ohh God...i cant stop laughing hpw some girls can be naiv...im also muslim but u know in islam if u do something to make another cry and suffer it will go back to you and Allah will punish u for every tear of his wife..if she doesnt agree then u should not marry him..and i cant believe that u even think about it...u cant find any free man, someone from same culture and tradition someone to whom u will be the only one? if not then kill urself

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 19:12
anonymous

ohh God...i cant stop laughing hpw some girls can be naiv...im also muslim but u know in islam if u do something to make another cry and suffer it will go back to you and Allah will punish u for every tear of his wife..if she doesnt agree then u should not marry him..and i cant believe that u even think about it...u cant find any free man, someone from same culture and tradition someone to whom u will be the only one? if not then kill urself

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:11
beautynbrain

Saeed- no woman in this world has guts to share his hubby with anyone. Wife can allow only when she dont have any option left.

By Mohammad_M_K• 24 Sep 2010 19:08
Mohammad_M_K

WHATS WRONG WITH THE ADVICE.

ALL THE PEOPLE HERE ANSWERING, ARE ONLY FOCUSING THAT HE IS A CHEAT WHEREAS HER QUESTION IS NOT ABOUT IF HES CHEATING OR NOT, SHE JUST WANNA MARRY AND AM SAYING THERE IS NO NEED OF APPROVAL FROM THE FIRST WIFE.

ALLAH KNOWS BETTER.

By Oryx• 24 Sep 2010 19:07
Oryx

So you are having an affair with a married man?

By beautynbrain• 24 Sep 2010 19:05
beautynbrain

Crystal- will u accept if he is married to u and still want to get married to some other girl??? wake up lady...

By Mohammad_M_K• 24 Sep 2010 19:04
Mohammad_M_K

I DONT KNOW IF HES PLAYING WITH YOU OR NOT, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER ABT THT, AM JUST TELLING YOU THAT IF U REALLY WANNA MARRY HIM AND KNOW HIM REALLY WELL SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR HIM TO GET APPROVAL FROM HIS 1ST WIFE.

By Mohammad_M_K• 24 Sep 2010 19:01
Mohammad_M_K

APPROVAL???

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM???

By britexpat• 24 Sep 2010 18:59
britexpat

My gut feeling tells me that he's playing you along and he's not mentioned you to teh family or wife.

So the options are as follows:

Walk Away

Force his hand

Become a second wife

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 18:59
Crystal7

at mohammad, how it happened that 2 wives dont know about each other. as per answer of the others, we need an approval from the first wife to get married again.

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 18:57
anonymous

go to marriage court rayan rpad and find out. they will tell you in detail, I think you no need to take his family only witness required. best thing is to go and find out from marriage court.

By Mohammad_M_K• 24 Sep 2010 18:57
Mohammad_M_K

WELL OFCOURSE YOU CAN MARRY, I HAVE A FREIND WHO HAVE TWO WIFES AND BOTH OF THEM(WIFES) DONT KNOW ABOUT EACH OTHER.

:)

By anonymous• 24 Sep 2010 18:57
anonymous

i believe it's not possible, if he got his wife and kid and they are staying with him in qatar under his sponsorship Qatar's law will not allow him to sponsor second wife and they might check that he is married. better you check with sharia court where you will appear for marriage.

Regards

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 18:56
Crystal7

220v, u really gave me strength. the problem is his wife said NO already...

By Mohammad_M_K• 24 Sep 2010 18:56
Mohammad_M_K

WELL WIFE-1 LIVES WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND THE SECOND ONE LIVES IN THE OTHER HOUSE OF RENT, SO ONE DAY HE LIVES WITH HIS FAMILY AND WIFE-1 AND THE NEXT DAY HE LIVES WITH THE SECOND ONE.

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 18:53
Crystal7

at shamiyeh2, how it will be possible if family didnt agree?

By 220v• 24 Sep 2010 18:52
220v

Go to the marriage court located at rayan road.

U both need 2 witness each ..

But don't know if he can marry again being already.

He might need a written no objection letter from existing wife.

Visit the court early Sunday morning to get detailed info.

Peace

By aleenosh• 24 Sep 2010 18:52
aleenosh

THE PERSON IS NOT SINCERE WITH HIS FIRST WIFE THEN HOW HE COULD BE SICERE WITH YOU.IT'S GOOD TO KNOW YOU HAVE CONVERTED IN ISLAM...I AM SURE YOU CAN FIND ANY NICE AND SINCERE GUY...GOOD LUCK....PLEASE MAKE A WISE DECISION...YOUR ONE DECISION CAN SPOIL YO WHOLE LIFE.

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 18:52
Crystal7

at saeed, he talked to his family already and they said no :-(

By Crystal7• 24 Sep 2010 18:51
Crystal7

at mohammad, how did they do it? where?

By shamiyeh2• 24 Sep 2010 18:46
shamiyeh2

U KNOW WHY .. COZ THERE IS NO BOYFRIEND & GIRL FRIEND IN ISALAM .. HE IS JUST PLAYING WITH U 2 ENJOY HIS TIME .. IF HE IS SERIOUS U CAN MARRY LEGALY NO PROPLEM & NO NEED HIS FAMILY 2 AGREE OR NOT .. WAKE UP HE DON'T SAY THE TRUTH ..

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