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blah blah Balh bugger  off!

If this your take on enjoining Al-Maroof and forbidding Al-Munkar which is an order to all the believer, then you said it all. But for now,  just take a chill pill, guess you don’t need a mehram to travel around. J 

Nigga pleeeeez! there is a whole world of diference tween educating ur self 'n gettin ur self bombarded with other ppl's rantin 'n ravin  religiion sychopaths!

You are eating up your own statement (the footer) The way out is not by guns and violence (even in words) and please do Educate yourself by all means and even by the words pasted by the preachy types... :-)Just Chill 

You are eating up your own statement (the footer) The way out is not by guns and violence (even in words) and please do Educate yourself by all means and even by the words pasted by the preachy types... :-)Just Chill 

A good informative thread ruined! Come on people can't we have a civilized discussion anymore without people getting all insulting and abusive?sheesh! 

it's ok Karrena 'n u preachy turban go get some freakin life /:

All the details are provided and option discussed, you may suit yourself....As everyone is answerable for his/her own deeds etc. Though we are drifting from the original post but allow me to note two points on  your last quote of yours  “"Times have changed and nowadays travel has become much safer than it used to be thousands of years ago.. Those days one had to travel on camel or horse or a ship which used to take weeks or months but now it is just a matter of hours.." close quote.a)    It is One thousand four hundred and forty two years pre hijri and not thousands of years. b)    The statements/orders of prophet Muhammad (p&buh) are never out of time or out dated as they are direct orders from Allah az zougal and He (Allah) beyond any doubt knew and know of today and times to come. If one believes otherwise, it can invalidate ones iman so please be extra careful on the point b Allah knows the Best

I should not have asked this question on QL..  Islamonline or Islamweb are the correct sites for asking Fatwas from reliable sources. Sorry once again, I should have not brought this up here..

Sigh! i'm sick and tired of the  ranting preachy types on social forums.! u only have to type one line and metion religion in it and they be jumpin all over ur freakin Azz with all kinda freakie religious  non-stop ranting 'n ravin! i mean com on dude what the heck is wrong with u? this ain't a freakin Friday Cermoney for the love of God! and btw religion is much more eaiser and fun when your preachie types are out of it /:

I think it is nonsense that a woman cannot travel alone in the 21st century. If you like it or not.

Jazakhallah khair. Hope we can make Haj this year,Inshallah! 

The words of prophet (p&buh) are NOT nonsense, and such a comment can be taken very offensive. so please make good choice of words and elaborate.  This shall avoid further hijacking of the thread, as K74 already has initiated  J

appalling :-(

All alone.. I sat in the plane all alone and then 16 hours later I landed in Houston.. In the plane a man sat next to me who was drinking a lot so I requested the stewardess to please change my seat and that I would prefer sitting next to a lady.. IN other words what I am tyign to say is that I am very well capable of taking care of myself.. Times have changed and nowadays travel has become much safer than it used to be thousands of years ago.. Those days one had to travel on camel or horse or a ship which used to take weeks or months but now it is just a matter of hours..

My parents are very old and already done Hajj and their health won't permit them to come with me again. I have two brothers who are much younger than me and it seems like they do not have any intention of going for Hajj right now. My nephews are just babies and it will be a long while for them to grow up and go for Hajj and take their old aunt with them. I don't have any brother in law since I don't have a sister. I guess I have no option but to wait that one day one of my brothers might decide to go for Hajj with their wife and inshAllah take me along with them. There should not be a problem since I will be taking care of all my expenses.

I asked this question because a few of my local Qatari friends went for Umrah in a group of women and they said I can do the same for Hajj.

And now put the whole tread into Religious Teachings!! It gets perturbing to read such nonsense in an open forum!

Sorry for the long reply. Ibn 'Uthaymeen's Fatwaa about Women Traveling Even For Hajj or Umrah Translated by Abu Sumayyah Aqeel Walker Ash-Shaikh Muhammad bin Saalih Al-'Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy upon him) was asked:    Question: A woman wants to travel to Jeddah to perform 'Umrah and a Mahram (male relative) of hers sees her off from Ar-Riyadh (the capital city of Saudi Arabia), and she rides in the airplane and another Mahram (male relative) receives her in Jeddah. Is this permissible? Answer: If this matter happened already, then it is over. Along with this, verily this is forbidden for her because she is included in the generality of the Prophet's (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) statement, "A woman should not travel except with one who is a Mahram (male relative or her husband)." [Reported by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim]  And this woman traveled without a Mahram so it is true concerning her that she fell into what the Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) prohibited. Indeed you may say, "Verily if her Mahram sees her off at the airport and the other Mahram receives her, the danger (of her traveling alone) is removed, and the Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) only prohibited that due to fear of danger. Therefore, if the danger is removed, there is no harm." The reply to this is that the Messenger  (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) made an unrestricted prohibition. He said, "A woman should not travel except with one who is a Mahram (male relative or her husband)." So a man stood up and said, "O Messenger of Allaah, verily my wife went out for Hajj and verily I have been enlisted to go on such and such expedition." So he (the Prophet) said, "Go and perform Hajj with your wife." [Reported by Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim] Thus, the Messenger (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) commanded him to cancel his expedition and to go with his wife. Did the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) seek an explanation from this man? Did he say, "Is your wife safe or unsafe?" No. Did he say, "Are other women with her or not?"  No. He did not say that. Did he say, "Is she an old woman or a young lady?" He did not say that. So the principle is that the wording remains upon the generality of its meaning, especially since the story of this man occurred in support of the generality. In reference to the woman's Mahram seeing her off to the airport - and I hope that you all are with me in (understanding) this matter. If I am mistaken then correct my mistake, and if I am right then agree with me about this and warn the people. This man who goes with her to the airport, from what is customary is that the area that is for the travelers (in the airports), none can enter it except for the people who are actually traveling, only. [Translator's comment: This is the case  in most  airports around the world, especially in the Middle East. This wasn't normally the case in the United States in the past, but since September 11th, this may now be the case here too. Allaahu A'lam.]  So her Mahram is going to see her off to this waiting area (for travelers only) and then leave. This is what usually happens. If he leaves, is he 100% certain that the plane is going to leave at the scheduled time? No. It could be delayed. Then if it leaves at the scheduled time, and travels in the air, is it guaranteed with certainty that the weather conditions will remain suitable or it could be that situations may occur that will force the airplane to return back (i.e. land again)?  The answer is that the likes of these situations may occur. Then if it's a given that she continues on the flight and arrives at the land where the plane is to land, even that may not be feasible. The plane may go to some other place. So who will meet her at this other airport (i.e. a layover airport)? So if it is decreed that she lands at the airport which she intends to land at, is the Mahram whom it is agreed that he will meet her, is his meeting her guaranteed, and at the same time of her arrival? This is not guaranteed. He may become ill, and he may get lost or he could get caught in a traffic jam with other cars. All of this is possible, isn't it so? But lets just say that all of these obstacles do not occur and the matter goes as well as expected. However, who is the person who will sit beside her on the plane? Allaah knows best. It could be that an honorable man will be sitting beside her who has respect for the Muslim women and he will protect her from harm. He could be better than her true Mahram. And it could be that a wicked, plotting, treacherous man will be sitting next to her, who will trick her and try to seduce her. So the matter remains dangerous. The Legislator (Allaah) has exceedingly anticipated what is necessary to protect the honors. This is such that Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, said: "And do not come near Az-Zinaa (illegal sex, fornication, adultery, etc.)." [Al-Israa' (17):32]  He (Allaah) did not say, "And do not commit Az-Zinaa." This is so that we would stay away from everything that could be a means that leads to Az-Zinaa. So verily the obligation that is upon the believer who fears Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, and who feels defensive honor for the women of his family is that he not allow anyone from the women of his family to travel except with a Mahram (male relative or her husband). The matter is quite easy. Go with her (to her destination) and return. There is no overburdening in this. And all praise is due to Allaah. Source: Al-Fataawaa Ash-Shar'iyyah fil-Masaa'il il-'Asriyyah min Fataawaa 'Ulamaa' il-Balad il-Haraam, pp. 452-454. 

This is how it was ordered by Prophet Muhammad (p&buh). It is very rare that one does not have a mehram at all as the list of mehram is quiet long and not limited to (blood brother, father and husband). Grand Father (paternal and maternal), Brother of Father and or Mother, Sons of brother/s, or sister/s, step sons and brother from foster relation are also mehram If one does not have any of the above relations and she is financially capable then she can nominate one person on her behalf and May Allah accepts the ajar equal to performing a Hajj herself. The whole idea is to perform this very important ritual of Islam BUT on the terms which Allah accepts not as per our own desire as this effort is for Allah sake and should be the way Allah ordered. Mainly the travelling alone for women is not allowed at all and Hajj does involves travel. Allah knows the best & May He forgive our limited understandings and mistakes knowingly and unknowingly and Guide us to the straight path. Aameen  

You are most welcome ... 

it is pretty useful

Just saw this today @ the government website. Thought I'd share ... 

as far as i know she  a single woman can still go to Hajj in the company of a band of other women

For women over 35 to have a mehram to accompany her? Can she travel on her own in a group of ladies? What if a woman is single and does not have a mehram to accompany her?

for your kind info..