One divorce case in Saudi every 30 minutes
A surge in divorce rate in Saud Arabia has raised concerns over the role of domestic violence and prompted debate on means to reign in the social problem seen to have damaging effects on families and society.
The number of registered cases of divorces in 2010 reached 18,765, which is one case every 30 minutes, and most divorces took place within the first year of marriage, the Saudi daily newspaper al-Hayat reported Sunday.
On the other hand, the number of marriages in the 2010 reached 90,983, that is five marriages every 30 minutes.
Cases of domestic violence have also been on the rise lately in the kingdom with 747 incidents reported to the Ministry of Social Affairs, wrote Dr. Ahmed al-Boali, secretary of the Educational Council in the eastern governorate of Al-Ahsa, in a paper he submitted to a workshop for workers in the field of social protection.
According to Boali, the Saudi capital Riyadh is the highest in domestic violence with 454 cases, followed by Mecca with 159 cases, Asser 101 cases, and Medina 63 cases. The lowest rates were found in al-Ahsa with 13 cases and Abha with one case.
Boali added that the cases of physical abuse reached 747, sexual abuse 18, and physiological abuse 7, while cases of combined physical and psychological abuses reached 273, combined sexual and psychological two cases, physical and sexual four cases, and physical and verbal one case.
The paper explained that children are the most exposed to abuse and domestic violence, followed by women. Cases in which the perpetrator of abuse is male reached 1,057 while female cases did not exceed 75.
Cases of violence because of gender are 104 in cases of male victims and 979 for female victims.
(Translated from the Arabic by Sonia Farid)
Sri Lanka has the lawest rate.I think because people who lives in most of Asian countries thinks divorce is a shame.so Its hard or not they lived together till die.Anyhow I think divorce is based on the way of people think about about marrage and kids.
Sri Lanka has the lawest rate.I think because people who lives in most of Asian countries thinks divorce is a shame.so Its hard or not they lived together till die.Anyhow I think divorce is based on the way of people think about about marrage and kids.
divorce is common nowadays period. whether its in saudi or england. the problem is that people do not take marriage seriously nowadays. people have this TV idea of marriage. people think if you have one or two fights with your spouse that it is grounds for divorce.so i can so see a person getting divorced in a years time because it's the start of a marriage people start their marriages with fairy tale ideas.and cohabitating prior to marriage doesn't help either. statics have shown that people actually tend to divorce more if they have lived prior to marriage (in the US anyway).i have seen couples lived together for 10+ years and then divorce 3 months later. because again people have fairy tales ideas of marriage.
i guess the only permanent and constant in this world is the word "CHANGE"..everything change..everybody change..whether it's for betterment or not...
Another 60+.........
Divorce is a natural thing. Circumstances are changing -> we are changing -> environment is changing-> our priorities and goals are changing...we change houses, jobs, countries and continents.. If your partner fits all these changes, that's great, consider yourself lucky.. If not.. Well it's time to change a partner too... Nothing wrong with that.. Not necessary to hate each other after all...
Why are sixty plus people overtly obscesed with matrimonial complications.......come on its time to choose the color of the rhomboid box.
In Saudi, is there such things as marriage counseling before the husband and wife called it quits? i've read that The pronouncement of divorce by the husband may be verbal or written, but once made, there is to be a waiting period of three months ('Iddah) during which there can be no sexual relations, even though the two are living under the same roof. The waiting period helps to prevent hasty terminations due to anger and allows both parties time to reconsider as well as to see if the wife is pregnant. If the wife is pregnant, the waiting period is lengthened until she delivers. At any point during this time, the husband and wife are free to resume their conjugal relationship, thereby ending the divorce process. During this waiting period, the husband remains financially responsible for the support of his wife.The divorce initiated by the wife is known as Khul' (if the husband is not at fault) and requires that the wife return her dowry to end the marriage because she is the 'contract-breaker'. In the instance of Talaaq, where the husband is the 'contract-breaker', he must pay the dowry in full in cases where all or part of it was deferred, or allow the wife to keep all of it if she has already been given it in full.In the case that the husband is at fault and the woman is interested in divorce, she can petition a judge for divorce, with cause. She would be required to offer proof that her husband had not fulfilled his marital responsibilities. If the woman had specified certain conditions that are Islamically accepted in her marriage contract, which were not met by the husband, she could obtain a conditional divorce.
Who cares why they get divorced. Isn't it preferable to people living in unhappy marriages?
I would agree with you there.
I have known freinds who lived together for a couple of years, then got married and quickly divorced.
As per the Nationmaster.com the following are the latest statistic of divorce rate across the globe. Countries Amount United States: 4.95 per thousand people Puerto Rico: 4.47 per thousand people Russia: 3.36 per thousand people United Kingdom: 3.08 per thousand people Denmark: 2.81 per thousand people New Zealand: 2.63 per thousand people Australia: 2.52 per thousand people Canada: 2.46 per thousand people Finland: 1.85 per thousand people Barbados: 1.21 per thousand people Guadeloupe: 1.18 per thousand people Qatar: 0.97 per thousand people Portugal: 0.88 per thousand people Albania: 0.83 per thousand people Tunisia: 0.82 per thousand people Singapore: 0.8 per thousand people China: 0.79 per thousand people Greece: 0.76 per thousand people Brunei: 0.72 per thousand people Panama: 0.68 per thousand people Syria: 0.65 per thousand people Thailand: 0.58 per thousand people Mauritius: 0.47 per thousand people Ecuador: 0.42 per thousand people El Salvador: 0.41 per thousand people Cyprus: 0.39 per thousand people Chile: 0.38 per thousand people Jamaica: 0.38 per thousand people Mongolia: 0.37 per thousand people Turkey: 0.37 per thousand people Mexico: 0.33 per thousand people Italy: 0.27 per thousand people Brazil: 0.26 per thousand people Sri Lanka: 0.15 per thousand people Weighted average: 1.3 per thousand people I did not see KSA in that.
s_isale different cultures different expectations and norms. What might be a right for some people might be a wrong for others.
people who have been together for sometime before marriage also ends up with a divorce. Where does the difference lie then?
So what? While staying together "until death do you part" made sense when we married at 13 and died at 35, it doesn't make as much sense when we marry in our twenties and die in our eighties and ninties. Men and women grow and change as the years go by, and as they spend more and more time together it's unlikely that they will "evolve" in the same way and in the same direction. While obviously, if you still love the person, you should try and make the relationship work, if you've found you've drifted so far from your partner that you no longer love them, then by all means divorce. Why live with constant fighting and bickering? It's not healthy for the couple or any children involved. Also, given that Saudi couples aren't even given the opportunity to get to know one another before marriage, it's hardly surprising that so many should divorce in a year. And better to call it quits after 6 months together than to bring children into a loveless marriage. I would say calling it quits is the mature thing to do.
The whole concept of marriage in different cultures means different things. But one thing is common that a marriage is a union of man and woman either in front of God in a Church or Mosque or Temple or in a civil service.Now to understand what constitutes to divorce in one Culture and the reasons and affects of it might be completely opposite to the cause and effect in another culture.So before we start understanding the higher divorce rate in KSA we should study and understand the culture of that country before making immature statements like I heard from so and so.
Sometimes divorce is inevitable – quite clearly the right decision – but often it’s not. The question remains, can I fix my broken marriage?It’s a question that needs answering because if the answer is “no”, knowing that you gave it your best shot will help you accept divorce. And of course if the answer proves to be “yes” and you do manage to save your marriage, you’ll thank your lucky stars you tried.
for some everything is to be sensationalised...
QS remember in the western countries a lot more people now a days are cohabiting and living together as husband and wife without tying the knot so the figure might be even greater! where as in Saudi that can never happen!
18,765 divorces against 90,983 marriages. 20% divorces.. still not too bad comparing to about 35-45% divorces in the western countries..
PS, In general its a Fact that there are always exceptions to everything, Like it or not......Everytime Physical Apperance does not matter, its the Heart and the Soul which is important......
In KSA a women will only marry one man at one time! there is not concept of sleeping around with many men before she decides to marry one of them. She will not have children outside of wedlock.She will not have many BF and even kids outside of wedlock before she marries. There is no right and there is no wrong. What looks good and is acceptable in one culture may be seen as cheap and alien to other cultures.As this topic is about Divorce. I think it is a Human right for a man to be with a woman and its is their right to leave each other rather than enduring a life of misery.As far of PS little knowledge of Saudi men marrying younger women for money. Then today she should look at her oun country. Plenty of middle aged western men looking for brides?So lets not get side tracked from the thread. Saudis have divorce just like the rest of the civilised worlds has and it has its own reason for the increase in this rate.
when GOOD and EVIL was presented to man, HE specifically said to choose GOOD. HE never stop in just laying the two things.Of course, this is for those who believe there is GOD! The real GOD!
Life will teach us both fathimah,it's all up to us now what we want to pick. ;)
They sure are! And I would say whilst education is obligatory who,where and how we take our knowledge from is also essential. If our education harms us more than it benefits and makes us arrogant then really that's not the knowldge we need. Many times truly learned people will also remain humble and keen in seeking knowledge that will better them as human beings as well.
But the problem is education gives us both flor..
Fathimah - As what steve jobs said : Stay hungry,stay foolish.. Learning should never end. Everyday experiences are lessons as well.
the good, NOT the bad!
While technology is innovating,almost everything innovates as well. :)
Lack of gaining knowledge, be it in regards to the religion or even affairs of this world, is and and always will remain a person's downfall. A person should never stop educating and bettering themselves regardless of whether they are married or not.
Flor - Agree. As what they say,it's the attitude that makes someone stay. ;)
blame it on the media and ads ....For centuries majority of the people have been having arranged marriages...
may not be beautiful tomorrow. A slim perso now will not remain slim throughout her life. Youth is lost as we aged, so if one based his love on the present situation and never anticipate hwat's in the future, then "divorce" is coming soon! Lol!
VAtican does not condone it but divorce is practiced in Rome, the seat of Roman CAtholicism.We don't recognize it and we don't have divorce! It's very clear as written and said during wedding ceremony, "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder". So, anyone or any religion that recognize divorce, knowingly or unknowingly, they break God's commandment.
DK - exactly,if not, then they won't go for slimmer chicks in thailand..:(
Couldn't agree more. If only people realized that marriage is not a power trip and stopped treating every minor disagreement like as though it was some sort of duel!
Its a man's world and people in KSA make this so obvious...sad but true.
Flor - I agree with u. I have to say that im not really into the sacredness of marriage but i like your point : "The thought that either one is in control of each other is what makes it a fragile relationship." Couldnt agree more.
FA - Wouldnt it be nice if we talk in general when it comes to topics like this,instead of talkin about the exception that "men are not all like this"?
Let's say men like big b*tts but as a man would u like a big belly with it? I bet no.
did not honor the sanctity of it. Worst, they did not understand the very essence of marriage. The thought that either one is in control of each other is what makes it a fragile relationship. Unless both person understand that neither of the two person rule each other but the RULE of the ONE who created marriage, relationship is bound to break!
Brit - You are right about "women becoming more educated" but the root of this IMO is the fact that they are arranged to marry men they dont want to be with and having the courage to walk away now unlike the past years.
FA, we are not talking about exceptions..:)
If we're talkin about divorce rates all over the world then i would have commented different but as what i know we are talkin about saudi divorce rate here.
Brit - My point here is based on what's goin' on in Saudi according to what i heard about and read as well. Correct me if im wrong.
PS, Yeah, that's the most important reason for divorces. Nearly all marriages in KSA are arranged. If there is no affection towards each other, familiarity will only breed contempt after a few months of living together. If there is no love between them after staying together, men usually get bored sleeping with the same women. The problems begins to start and the rest of the reasons lend their hands to get a divorce without much contemplation.
Oh for goodness sake. How many marriages do you know of where old men have married young women ?
Divorce rates are rising all over the world. In Saudi - as in many other countries, the problem is that women are getting more educated, independent in thought and able to support themselves financially. So, they , like their male counterparts find it easy to walk away.
DK, there is always Exceptions, "Not all Men are Like this"..... ;)
DK - There r really many factors to consider that might be the reason,so many to mention here one by one. I'll just follow what i believe: marry with the right reasons.
I think there are so many factors involved here..
-love before marriage is discouraged, no love marriage, no endeavor to make the marrriage work.
-talak, talak, talak will do the job...no hassles
-rich men are usually naughty
-household is looked after by the maids, so no problems even if wives leave
-men are by nature polygamous..they want change
-women cannot go out alone, usually get obese due to over eating
-men generally don't like obese women
-socially divorces are treated normally, not looked down upon.
i could put in some more subtle causes...
FA - Exactly, Culture comes in between. If families only allow their daughters have their rights as stated in Quran then i guess arranged marriages between a young lady and an old rich men wouldn't be common.
I do agree that not all arranged marriages leads to divorce esp.if the couple is doing something to work it out.
PS, That is where the Problem is... Culture Comes inbetween which eventually leds to this Seperation," I am not saying that All Arranged Marriages End up with Divorce".....
FA - Ok,thanks for informing me but are u sure that their families really let them choose the one to spend their whole life with?
PS, Arrange Marriages are Common in Sub-Continent as well, But for a Fact Divorce Rates out there are not that high Compared to Saudi Arabia.Just to clear some facts, Islam does not Say that a Girl is Supposed to Get married only if its Arranged. In Quran it is Mentioned Clearly after Girl Crosses 18 yrs, She has the right to Decide her self to whom she needs to Spent her life with.....
FA - Of course,there are so many things that could be the probable reason of divorce but IMO,arranged marriages in Saudi is the main cause of the high divorce rate in SA.
They're not happy with each other and I guess this is due to arranged marriages which is a usual thing in Saudi. I have heard that in many cases,young ladies are arranged to marry rich old men regardless of their rank as a wife esp.if the man can support 'em all which is i think the law in Islam (that u have to be financially able to support all your wives' needs as well as the children). There are cases as well when old rich guys will pay a big amount of mahar or dowry to the lady's family. In my own point of view,people should marry with the right reasons and should have the freewill to choose who they want to spend their lives with but unfortunately this doesnt sound good in Saudi. If I were in their shoes & im arranged to marry someone i dont even know and after marriage he'll turn out to be a monster,I might as well file a divorce (it is my right and it's acceptable),on the other side of the coin,not all arranged marriages leads to an end esp.if both of them are willing to make things work. People leave bec.they dont want to stay and almost always the reason is: "They're not happy".
Yes it is very much allowed for a woman to re-marry when divorced as it is for a man. And again I suppose its this permissability and ability which is abused. At the first sign of turmoil these married people are likely to think "maybe I can do better" What they don't realize is though divorce is allowed it should only be done after much effort has been put into the marriage and to settle discords.(except of course if the woman/man cheats, physically abuses,abuses substances,and/or commits other major illegal acts)I think maturity plays a big role in marriage. Some folks no matter how grown up they are in years simply lack the wisdom,tolerance, and maturity required in a marriage. That and high expectations. Oftenly people marry expecting perfect spouses while they themselves lack it. It pays to remember that no humanbeing is perfect and without short comings.And rather than concentrating on their faults why not focus on the beauty and good things they come with.That way when you face an issue you can tackle it together as a team than play the blame game.
It is quite common in Saudi for divorced women to remarry..
britey, i think if this is the case there will be more increase in divorce rate as the year passes..i pity the children who will be affected with this kind of situation..by the way, the woman who is divorcee can get married again?is it allowed in their law/religion?
Yes, arranged marriages may have some bearing, but I believe that the main factor is that both sides come in with varying expectations. Rather than work at it, they find it easier to waqlk away..
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can only be expected from blind people who dont bother to see what is happening in thier home county and still interested in others business
priya.patel, that's what you called irresponsible father..
Survival in today's world demands a basic cunningness which is 'get as much as possible & give as little as possible' . If you don't exploit, you 'll get expoited............now where does the institution of marriage stand here? Wait for the times when it will be anhilited & we will have factory made progeny. And this is no unrealistic imagination. It's inevitable future of our species.
And, human beings are not social animals. They form societies to ensure their security & well being. If there is an alternative available to ensure lifelong supply of their basic need such as food, sex, shelter & of curse a painless death; nobody needs any society.
britey, maybe one reason for that is arrange marriage and both parties doesn't know it's other in the first place and the attitude differences is maybe a contributing factor too..
...and I thought it was the morroccan ladies who were the cause of this serious issue http://www.qatarliving.com/node/2157730
I doubt whether domestic violence is the main cause - given the numbers and the overall population.
The simple fact is that both men and women do not put enough effort into making a marriage work. It is all too easy to walk away. Especially if both parties are financially secure.
and why do the male go missing of the responsiblity can some one acknowlegde me
wow ! thats great my female office mate has 2 kids upon questiong about her marriage and husband her answer was i was neither married neither annuled (as no divorce in the phills ) where do the kids come from
fathimah, i'm surprise to know that there's also abuse in male in the mid-east. yet i know it's very rare case but i think the wives do beat their husband a** if he did something that really pisses her off..in phils, we don't have divorce..but we have annulment..
I honestly feel one of the greatest trials God has bestowed on us is the fact that divorse is made so easy. Like many other great eases people are bound to abuse this priviledge. And yet divorcing without a valid excuse is such a sin yet again many can't really tell the difference anymore. As for domestic abuse then thats one reason people shouldn't hesitate to divorse..having an abusive husband/wife should never be tolerated.
wats the basic reason for this divorce.. misunderstanding or over expectation?
i applaud the saudis coz atleast they have a report or survey even though related to divorce some countries have no count of countless marriages, kids before marriages and affairs without divorces
many people suggest to have medical exam of male and female to see either they are medically fit or not or they have any deficiency of any kind including std's but i always tell them that there should also be psychriatic exam to for any country or culture before marriage and before child birth