NEVER leave your child unattended
whether in a car, playground, malls or even your home.
As per GT news today, see article;
Just a reminder to mums & pops
Baby locked in car rescued
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whether in a car, playground, malls or even your home.
As per GT news today, see article;
Just a reminder to mums & pops
Baby locked in car rescued
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By Nour Abuzant |
GOD IS GREAT
IT HAPPEN ONCE IN 2001 IN USA ALSO MOTHER FORGET CHILD IN CAR AND WENT FOR SHOPING AND IT WAS HOT SUMMER FOR 2 HOURS...
GOD BLESS ALL PARENTS
GOD IS GREAT
GOD IS GREAT
Girl dies after dad forgets her in locked car
A TWO-YEAR-OLD girl died in Doha on Wednesday when her father forgot her in the back seat of his locked car for four hours, a local Arabic daily has reported.
The father, an engineer, was supposed to drop the girl at a kindergarten on her first day. But he forgot, parked the car in front of his office and went to work as usual.
Realising his mistake after four hours, he rushed to the car only to find his daughter in an unconscious state. He rushed the girl to the American Hospital on C Ring Road, where doctors pronounced her dead.
The man fainted on hearing the shocking news. His wife, who reached the hospital shortly, also collapsed unable to bear the tragedy, the daily added.
Very relieved to hear that. Chicco is a good brand. The booster should have a strap attached to it which you attach to the seatbelt which then makes the seatbelf come properly over her body.
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DG, dw and I got dd a new booster seat from Cicco last year. It actually is quite comfortable for dd. The old hobbled-together car seat is getting too small and dirty. It seems OK. I've tested it by trying to pull it out of its fastening. It won't budge so it seems pretty good.
If anyone wants this old car seat, they are welcome to it (free of charge).
Oryx...plastic surgery is also another way these women keep their lives together. dw worked a plastic surgery clinic. She said many women who were already stunning and beautiful wanted plastic surgery. They seemed bored and wanted a new look.
Baedebok, by fixing together two second hand car seat that may well have been broken, you are indeed putting your daughter's life in danger. I'm sure you buckle up in your car with seatbelts that are properly fitted by the car manufacturer.
Even though you may be a good driver if a car smashed into you your daughter could be hurt far more than she would be if seated in a properly fitted car seat.
For a four year (depending on weight) old you usually need a booster seat so the seatbelt fits properly over the body. You can get these at Toys R Us in Doha for about QR 100. The brand is Graco. The assistant in charge of child car seats is trained to explain about the products and also to fit them correctly into your car.
Your daughter is the most precious cargo you will ever have in your car. One mistake could leave you with a lifetime of regret.
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OMG! This is crazy! why why why?!!!!!
Life is beautiful !!!
Gumby, if you are from the UK or North America and leave your child unattended in a car then almost without exception no criminal charges are brought.
If you kill your child by leaving them in a car, gassing them to death by forgetting to turn off the cooker, killing your child by them falling out of a widnow whilst in your care or being drunk and falling asleep and suffocating the baby the same applies. No criminal charges are brought and the cause of death is listed as accidental by neglect. In only a small minority of cases criminal charges are brought.
This is the sad but true reality.
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sorry for the language but that is the first thing that comes to my mind after reading this :( Are these people in their minds or what? If it was an eight years old it would be a trouble so how about the 8 months???? Locked in the car, this weather and .... without AC? Just wondering if they were trying their luck killing the poor baby :(
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)
is about being a 'responsible parent' to our kids (if you have family). There is no 'perfect parent'. I am a mother of 5 kids...25 being the eldest & 11 the youngest. ..all grew up w/out a nanny but only me taking care of them (until now). I know how a mother felt. This is not to accussed a mother, who knows what she felt at that time too?Can you comprehend her feelings?Of course, leaving her child in that car is a disaster to her motherhood, more so if something happened to her baby. But let's not point all our fingers to her (i'm not siding her), but look to ourselves too. As parent we might had times we neglected our child/chidlren we never know. Not only in this issue,maybe in some other aspects of our lives. Every mistake should be learned, as I said. if there's a chance to correct them, do it so that next time it won't happen again. Peace everyone
I can say for sure that back home she would be facing criminal charges and possibly, though unlikely, the extinguishing of her parental privileges.
wait a mint....
im not only referring to this car incident when in talking bout being protective 24 / 7.....
but in general...a two mint lapse is enough....
and i still say what the lady did was crazy....
ok all mothers and women and fathers and men.....
i step down from the stand of defending this woman.....
let teh one who hasnt had a minute lapse when taking care of a child continue this discission ..... :)
and BTW its RAINING
yes, that upsets me baedaebok.
Over-protecting one's kids can lead to not proper development. This is why we let dd roam around when we're not watching (NOW...when dd is 3).
When dd was 0-2, dw had her sleeping with us (and dd still does) but sleeping in the living room.
But we never had the quintesstially Canadian stair fences. Every other Canadian parent we knew had these doors preventing the kid from crawling up or down stairs. We never did that b/c we felt they were unecessary...and dd never fell down. Personally, I think they are an over-reaction. It's like having air bags all over the car and super-safe car seats (the 5-point kind).
Would people get upset if I told that our car seat was assembled from two other car seats (one I found in the trash)?
Ilovefonzie...I do not employ people to look after my children. That is my and their Father's job as we decided to have them. Actually my children have never been left unattended. I would consider that irresponsible at their young age. If they are not with me or their Father, they are at pre-school for a few hours every other day or with another family member.
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ilovefonzie, i'm not a mom so i cant comment on who's a good/bad/paranoid mom. But I can say that leaving any living thing (and sometimes chocolate too)in a car without the AC on in qatar heat is not done!
there are extreme mothers around one way or another ...
when my son's younger, i wont even leave him while i have a shower. I strapped him up in the high chair and put the high chair in the bathroom.
Talking about paranoid mother !!!
ilovefonzie - there's a difference between leaving a child unattended while you have a shower, and leaving a child unattended in a locked car with no windows open or a/c on in 35+ heat.
Same same, but different; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7383439.stm
Diamond Girl and everyone else..dunno how u have 3 children and never have any one unattended....i mean there has to be atleast 5 mints...say u in for a shower, or u have guests over ....hmmm...unless u have a maid if u have then i can accept ur statement at face value ...otherwise i have me doubts....
but wait a mint, im not accusing u of negligence....i am not.
but every minute for every second to monitor children is not possible...ud have to be a control freak....
just cos u dint watch u child for 2 mints and she pulled a glass vase down off the table and cut her finger dosnt make u bad mother.
but yes...the arab lady displayed negligence....
No charansoi11r, you made a slanderous comment about me:
Yes DG I don't know anything abour you exept " You are a Native English Speeking repectfull Qatari Woman who provide a exelent working conditions for the slaves :))))))))))
If you make a slanderous comment you should be prepared to apologise properly.
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Leave it that way. chapter Closed from my end
Why are you apologising if you don't know what you are apologising for? Would you like me to explain why you should apologise to me?
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I apologized to you. But I don't know what i am apologizing for :(
How about seat belts for children? Let's apply the above anger to parents who don't put their kids in seat belts. This leads to many children's deaths or injuries.
I drag dd (darling daughter) all over Doha. I never leave her in the car (even if she's sleeping). She has been woken up many times by the act of being lifted from her car seat and taken into an office.
She has seen the inside of so many government offices, been in queues all over the city, and been the curiouslity of many government office workers, etc.
Guys, don't get side-tracked. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the issue of child safety and not to personalize each other's arguments. It is good to make friends at QL. This is healthly but don't make accustations based on your friendship. This reminds me of what dw says about the people arguing and biting each other at the Korean church. They've missed the whole point.
Unfortunately in the US there are incidents every summer like this. Often times it is like shining star said - hurried parents forget. Not an excuse by any means. I remember an incident a few years ago where the father picked up the baby from day care along with groceries. Brought the groceries in but forgot the baby. The baby died from heat stroke. DG - I agree that many times the parents are not prosecuted (unless it was truly neglect) but as a parent - living with the loss of a child at your own hands is punishment enough. I would never be able to forgive myself.
Which brings me back to the story. I hope they sought medical care for the baby. Heat stroke and heat exhaustion should be treated by a physician as just cooling the body down is often times not enough.
I pray for the baby and the mother.
What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.
~Tolstoy~
And its not just the mom's responsibility. A lot of times kids are dumped on the mom coz the dad's too busy!!!
atleast she wont repeat this.
YOU DONT KNOW ME, DONT EVEN TRY !!!
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I used to turn up to teach private classes at houses - the maid would look puzzled - the Senora of the house would finally be found.... who would then be trying to remember where she had left the children.
More than once and more than one family - the children were
a) left at an after school club
b) left in a shopping mall play park
and it only was brought to anyone's attention because I had turned up adn there were no kids.
These mothers were often on medication such as ativan and the were going through their lives in a daze. Sometimes its the social pressure for women to conform to getting married/having a family that can lead to depression. They then have to 'keep it all together' and they do so with gluing their lives with medication.
This lady may need professional help....
omg shinning star! Thats really horrible!
Mrs Charan! She is the lovliest lady! ;)
She is the worst enemy I have at the moment :(
Spare a moment of sympathy for Mrs Charan! She is the lovliest lady! ;)
there was a simimler incedent in US where a mother a school teacher who used to take her 7 month old to school with her every day....
one fine day she just stoped at a Dounut shop for some dounuts got back into the car drove to the school forgot that the infant was in the back seat went into the school leaving the infant in the car with raising temp outside
after 9 hrs some parent who came to the school to pick her kid saw the infant in the car and tried to open it and called the athorities but it was too late......
when the car was opened the Temp was checked and it was 46'Degrees outside and 110'Degrees inside the car and the Baby had turned Blue....
she was taken away by the athorities and was sentenced to 4 years in prison.....
the most shocking part to me when i was the news was that when the juged asked her what where you thinking leaving the infant in the car she said the she forgot that she had her infant with her in the car......
Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....
"we bashed him up because he so funny."
Try a Bit harder to do that. May be after eating some Nasi Goring or Nasi Padang ;)
Charan has a disguised profile to smoke out snakes! I know him and he is hilarious and very kind hearted and very tongue in cheek with his humour.
Sure DG we don't know you as we have never met you....but your comments are cosmopolitan and look at issues from all cultural angles ...so they are scrumptious 'food for thought'. Thanks
Apologise to DG please, i know you are trying to be nasty and thats just not you, so please stop with the act !
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May be I am walking on Thin Air :)
You're walking on thin ice.
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DG said she is NOT a native English speaker.
My wife just read this story in the Gulf Times and said that she wouldn't even leave a chocolate bar in a car, let alone a child!
Yes Orryx ... we bashed him up because he so funny.
ermmm...charansoi11r, please do not make any comments about who I am...you don't know me.
Please remove your comment about me.
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DG is proudly a Native English speeking Qatari woman:)
some people disguised (spelling?) himself with other nationality & Gender purposely for a good cause :).
Hey what's with the Charan bashing? He is so funny!
Lets get back to bashing rubbish parents!
I don't think you are a cynic about the McCaine case... I have always been shocked that the child was left unattended......
What mattered more to them their child or going out with their mates? - latter.
What mattered more to this woman her child or her urgent papers?
latter
So now we see what these parents value!
DG is proudly a Qatari woman ... Unlike some people disguised (spelling?) himself with other nationality.
Never knew Qataris are Native English Speekers :(
I am not a native English speaker.
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I am not a native English speeker like you
God bless the Qatari man who saved the little infant......
i say what was the mother thinking was she a fool leaving the child inside the car with no A/c on we Adults can't bare the heat inside a closed car.....
Ridiculous the mother should have been charged by the athorities for such carelessness.....
Life is a mystery..... you never know whats next.....
Mistakes do happen but am sure no one does its purposely specailly when it comes to a toddlers !
Moral of the story is that we should learn the lesson and be responsible not negligent !
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Salaam ...
Really sometimes your commets are striking !
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"Soft drinks at City Centre start at Qr 1."
But my drinks are free of charge. Why bother about CITY CENTRE
Its just common sense. If a grown man was sitting inside the car waiting for the lady to do her paperwork he would've switced on the AC. She just shouldn't have left the baby in the car in the heat. Period.
Mc.Cann blaming the hotel because not providing the child monitor. Why they dont hire the sitter from the hotel ?
Tallg - It is very easy to find me. just inquire from the Ramada Staff about the Resident Begger:)
Soft drinks at City Centre start at Qr 1. No alcohol in them of course.
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@novi - Thank you. Helpful as ever!
@oryx - Glad I'm not the only one here shocked by the McCanns!
@charan - Sorry to hear you don't have much money. It's good that you have so many friends to support you. If you ever see me out in the one of the bars be sure to make yourself known to me and I'll buy you a drink.
My Drinks are Sponsered By Tigasin, Vasques, QT, Vegas, Gypsy, Azi, Paul (when he is here), Murali, Jinkx, Oryx, SpiceMom etc etc .......... No cost to me as They know I am a poor Guy who can even not afford to go to CITY Centre :(
stupid mother!!!
"Even if LOVE is full of thorns, embrace it. For in between those thorns there is a ROSE that's worth all the PAIN."
charansoi11r, I'm surprised you can't afford to go to the City Centre. The amount of times you wax on about getting drunk in bars suggests that you at least have the funds to buy alcohol.
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Salwa Road , just before the (used to be) fort roundabout
Wow, that is a long time! If you've never been to City Center that would explain why you didn't realise how bad the parking can get there. It's really crazy sometimes, especially in the evenings.
Where is Safari Hyper Mart? Is it any good?
Yes Tallg I have been here for more than 3 1/2 years and never been to City Centre yet. We poor guys can not afford to go there. Safari Hyper Mart is the best I can afford for my shopping
You've lost me now charan. What is a secret?
I'm not sure why you're calling my intentions into question, but had there been somewhere to stop and help the lady with the trolley I would have done so.
Perhaps you've never been to City Center, but it gets very busy and the whole surrounding area was chock-full of parked cars.
DG - So what ???????????? Hyjacking is my Core Business.
Not everybody park in the slip road. BTW it is a secret
charansoi11r, Tall isn't preaching and unlike you he isn't hijacking this thread like you are in your usual manner.
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You mean the inside lane where everyone parks to go to city center? Which was full of cars, because people had parked there to go to city center?
You always can use the adjesent slip road for parking
@charan, I'm confused by your comment. I wasn't aware I'd done any preaching about helping people. All my comments have been about the responsibility of parents to use common sense when it comes to their children.
Anyway, for your information I didn't stop because I was driving past on the other side of the road. To stop and help would have caused an accident.
It's a sad state of affairs. Talking of shopping trolleys the other day (in Paris) I saw two children playing with one trying to race it across the road and back again dodging the traffic like a game of chicken. Their two Mothers were sitting close by in a cafe. I went over to speak to them about it and was told rather impolitely where to go. So I reported them to the police and waited until a police car showed up.
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Why didn't you help her as you preached to the others here
The other day I saw a lady trying to cross the road in front of City Center with a trolley full of shopping and her child sat in the trolley.
She got to the central reservation and was then struggling to pull the trolley up onto the reservation from the road. Several cars had to swerve around it
Shocking.
I see here so many women not paying any attention to their children. On the Cornishe they are running unattended among the cars (in the parking area). Also, so many times they just kick out their kids to the streets, and the kids are just screaming and destroying cars etc. all day.
Why do they have kids if they don't care about them?
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the woman should be punished.. or the child should be taken away from her temporarily as she is not in her proper mind to rear a child?!... so pissed with the mother that any reason is not valid to justify why she left the kid inside the car...
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I'm so surprised people are saying "lesson learned" and all that. As Wanda and DG said, common sense and natural instinct should come in to play in a situation like this. If it doesn't, then the person isn't fit to raise children.
apalling!AC on or not a baby that young shouldnt be alone in the car for any length of time.
i have seen babies alone in the car with the engine running but that is equally dangerous. havent u heard of cars being stolen, imagine the baby being taken along with the car.
Ilovefonzie...common sense! Would you sit in a car with no ventilation with the AC off for a prolonged length of time when it's 35 degrees outside? You might as well sit inside a hot oven.
And as the Mother of three small children I can categorically say that they have NEVER been left unattended, nor should they.
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where is the mother's instinct? could have flown somewhere..
no matter how busy a mother/father is doesn't give them an excuse to be negligent of their own child.
but how do people plan in leaving children attended to all the time....now theres a crazy thought...
u may have to leash them....
i mean you cant totally childproof ur house and the environment.....
and no im not siding with the mother....i mean cut her some slack...everyone makes mistakes...the key is to learn from that incident..not bash her..
Yes, obviously it's good the child was unharmed, and I'm glad that you now know not to leave your baby locked in a car.
agree to britexpat
Please people learn from this incident.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.
We all do stupid things and learn from our mistakes. The good thing is that in this case the child was unharmed. Hopefully her mother will know better next time and those of us who have read the story will not be stupid enough to do the same thing in a similar situation.
In fact the UK social services have an appalling record of leaving children at risk in the home until they are murdered by one of their parents, usually by extreme deliberate neglect or physical abuse of the worst kind...children being chained up and burned with cigarettes and starved to death.
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OMG.. this is so BAD. What the hell did the parent thinking?? oh i just leave for a minute the baby will be alright??? oh gosh.... Glad the baby is okay and thank you to the Qatari who turns out to be an Angel of the day. Shukron
Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.
I think you'll find that in most cases of babies/children being left in cars in the UK and the US that there are no consequences by the police or social services. Other children of the family are not removed from the home. It's usually called accidental death caused by neglect and no criminal charges are brought.
I'm not saying that is right, that's just how it is.
In the case of the McCanns they were neglectful leaving three small children on their own. It's up to the Portugese authorities to decide how to deal with that. I'm sure they will never do that again. I hope they find their little girl.
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@britexpat - I agree that there's a tendency to go overboard in the UK, but the baby in this story is lucky to be alive. I don't think it should just be a case of 'oh well, lesson learned'. Some things should be a given, not part of the learning process!
Maybe you're right DG, though I've heard of parents being charged for less serious incidents than this. Unfortenately, a lot of the time it has to do with the class of the people involved. Look at the McCann's - I always thought it was odd in the early days of the case that everyone just got behind them, instead of lambasting them for being negligent parents. I think it would have been a different story if they were a working class family from a Liverpool council estate, for example. Or perhaps that's just the cynic in me.
Anyway, that's all a bit of topic. Soz.
Only recently in the UK a father had 15 pints of beer then was in charge of his baby who suffocated to death in his arms because he fell asleep. No action was taken against the father.
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In the UK, the jobsworths would go overborad and take the child away from the mother. This woman made a mistake and hopefully is wiser now. this should be a lesson for us all.
@ deedee - this doesn't have anything to do with nationality. It's as qatman says; Qatar is not as well developed as the UK in terms of things like social services, so an incident like this doesn't result in the police or anyone getting involved regardless of where the lady is from.
leave her child deliberately. Maybe she thought a quick check inside the building will do no harm to her child, especially if she left her baby sleeping. But what happened was already a lesson must be leaned. Sometimes TIME can be tricky! Hope all be well for both of them.
What an irresponsible woman. Tallg, I'm not so sure if authorities would act as you say in the UK or US for that matter. I remember watching a programme recently about parents in the who left their children in a car and the children died of suffocation. The parents (three separate families) were not punished for doing this and went on to have more children.
So fortunate for the baby concerned that someone was quick thinking.
It should indeed be a crime as at best it is negligence.
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what is the woman thinking? her paperwork is more important to the child? you dont know how much time you spend in an office...you may think it will be just quick but with the queue and waiting you'll be spending more time. this is just common sense... she could have bring her child --- if you have kids you have to be very responsible!
thanks for those concerned people...
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how stupid, why didnt she just take the baby inside with her? Seems to be no logic? Thank god for the Qatari who save this child..
how about 100 lashes to the mother.....in the middle of the desert.
I would have raised a ruckus and kept the women there, away from her baby, and demanded the police come and arrest her for endangerment. Alas, this is Doha and depending on your nationality, the rules are different. I'm just glad the baby seemed to be ok.
Tallg, Qatar is not as well developed as the UK at least as far as the social services are concerned. The Women will be let off without even a warning.
irresponsible!!!
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i hate these kind of parenets...
i also hates parents smoking in car with A/C on and windows locked..
i have seen many in Doha and it is just disgusting.....
watta mom...tsk..tsk..
common sense nowadays is very uncommon.
Spartans! Ready your breakfast and eat hearty... For tonight, we dine in hell!
I dont think anything would happen to this woman here in Doha... maybe a slap on the wrists n a warning to b safe next time... Even that's doubtful..
In the UK this would cause up-roar and I've no doubt social services would become involved and prosecuting the woman would be discussed, as well as taking the baby away from her.
What will happen to this woman?
OMG
Its really sad that some people can't even think properly to take care of there own child.. its 35 degreess plus outside who in there right mind would leave a baby in the car all locked up !!!
this is ridiculous.