Indeed I expect a higher level of awareness and intellect from you as well SuperNurse. I apologize for stereotyping you as such. It will not happen again. I promise.
It is beautiful though that you seem to be a connoisseur of hip hop rap lyrics. And yet strange that you don't bother to maybe look up the definition of the word...
It is said that black Americans began using this word amongst themselves as term of endearment in an attempt to remove the painful history involved in the word. To make the word so common amongst themselves that it was like saying 'man' or 'dude'.
In my opinion it did not work. It is still a word that many English scholars consider to be the most powerful, volatile and ugly word in the English lexicon.
Personally, it is a word I have no problem erasing from my vocabulary. It is a word that black Americans deserve to possess due to its historical usage... and hopefully they will one day convince every last one of themselves to lock it away, NEVER to be used again...
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
The N word is an unforgiving, utterly disrespectful term that shouldn't be used by anybody, no matter what your skin colour. But to say that in some cirlces ( ie - African/American), its acceptable for a black man to call another black man a Nigger is hypocritical, no matter what tone its used in.
I understand the history of the word and I reiterate that it should never be used, but if someone uses the word on a daily basis, he could hardly get defensive if some moron decides to throw it at him one day.
supernurse - why would you comment on a thread about it if you don't know the history of the word and can't be bothered to research it? The more and more you post the more surprised and shocked I am at the ignorance you demonstrate.
is the problem. And the way a person says it is making it worse. It's the way of delivering the word toward a person you are talking. And in most cases, the difference in skin on the persons involved.
If a black man says it to another blackman, they can feel the tone and the intent (it could be a friendly call in the same way that sometimes we call somebody motherf****r. without the bad connotation.
It's better to stay on the safe side by not using this word to another person if he is not that close to you!!!!!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
"its not a word that springs to mind really.....I only associate it with Hip Hop and only then cos the word is used alot in the lyrics.."
Been reading this thread with interest, but hesitant to comment because part of me believes that Supernurse must be yanking your chains.
Supernurse, you only associate the word with hip-hop? Is it really possible you're totally unaware of the history of the word and its painful connotations? Hmmm.. I'm having a hard time swallowing that.
yes, well there are derogatory words for white people too but I doubt we'd resort to violence over it....yeah Mr Paul, I get peed off being called white......HOW MANY LONG BURNING HOURS DO I SIT IN THE BOILING SUN TO GET A TAN AND I'M STILL CALLED EFFING WHITE??!!! GRRRRR.....
The old SHAFT films come to mind.... Talk about sterotyping...
By the way, I think the word should be done away with completely... However, the black community needs to put its house in oeder alo.. I recall Bill Crosby using it quite recently...
I think PhillyEagles2007 has pretty much covered it. I'm black myself and the only way I can justify people who use that word, black or otherwise is their ignorance. There is a lot of history and pain that is synonimous with that word. There are people within the race who call each other that and it is acceptable in some circles (music esp.), and I agree it seems rather hypocritical but slowly the word is being phased out. I wouldn't go around calling another woman's husband or boyfriend "honey" or "babe" so why would non-blacks think they can call us the N word?
If a non-black person called me that to my face, I'd probably shrug it off as ignorance. But there are people who would not be so kind...
I don't know of anyone that would say it, its not a word that springs to mind really.....I only associate it with Hip Hop and only then cos the word is used alot in the lyrics.....
It is a negative reminant of days gone bye. People have embraced a negative word the same way people sometime embrace negative sterotypes. It is a double standard but still that's the way it is.
ok, so how come they call themselves (they, I know very a blanket term) niggas but for non whites its not acceptable? Not that I would call anyone that, but do you see my point?
As a black person I can tell you it is NOT a word that you would want to use. Even in black culture there is a movement going on to stop using the word. I am not saying its right but using this word also has rules. For you as a non black person to use this word could result in some bodily harm (not kiding).
Supernurse your logic or lack of it is sad. These same people refer to women as bit.... , so does that mean men can call women this word simply becaue they do? The reason this word is so prevelant in music and movies is because unfortunately negativity sells.
labda06 indeed I am an idiot...but only those that are sad enough to trawl profiles will find that out....anything constructive to say about the post then effwit?
I don't see what the bloody problem is with the word anyway....they call each other nigger, so whats the issue?....shoulders and chips spring to mind..
Try it they shouldn't get offended....but Indians are technically 'niggers' are they? I thought people like Snoop dogg and rappers are niggers...well thats what they call each other anyway...I spose it would be technically right to call an Indian a nigger if he was a rapper......
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i dont think he will get offended.. he might just say.. i am not a nigger...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
What;s so bad about that?
Sorry, English scholars consider the word 'C*NT to be the most powerful, volatile and ugly word in the English lexicon (?).....there reasearch done...
Indeed I expect a higher level of awareness and intellect from you as well SuperNurse. I apologize for stereotyping you as such. It will not happen again. I promise.
It is beautiful though that you seem to be a connoisseur of hip hop rap lyrics. And yet strange that you don't bother to maybe look up the definition of the word...
It is said that black Americans began using this word amongst themselves as term of endearment in an attempt to remove the painful history involved in the word. To make the word so common amongst themselves that it was like saying 'man' or 'dude'.
In my opinion it did not work. It is still a word that many English scholars consider to be the most powerful, volatile and ugly word in the English lexicon.
Personally, it is a word I have no problem erasing from my vocabulary. It is a word that black Americans deserve to possess due to its historical usage... and hopefully they will one day convince every last one of themselves to lock it away, NEVER to be used again...
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
Nigel?
Now that's an N-word to get offended at.
The N word is an unforgiving, utterly disrespectful term that shouldn't be used by anybody, no matter what your skin colour. But to say that in some cirlces ( ie - African/American), its acceptable for a black man to call another black man a Nigger is hypocritical, no matter what tone its used in.
I understand the history of the word and I reiterate that it should never be used, but if someone uses the word on a daily basis, he could hardly get defensive if some moron decides to throw it at him one day.
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tallg...because I can? Its my perogative to demonstrate ignorance....
supernurse - why would you comment on a thread about it if you don't know the history of the word and can't be bothered to research it? The more and more you post the more surprised and shocked I am at the ignorance you demonstrate.
I wouldn't use it anyway...it just doesn't sound right with my posh English accent....
is the problem. And the way a person says it is making it worse. It's the way of delivering the word toward a person you are talking. And in most cases, the difference in skin on the persons involved.
If a black man says it to another blackman, they can feel the tone and the intent (it could be a friendly call in the same way that sometimes we call somebody motherf****r. without the bad connotation.
It's better to stay on the safe side by not using this word to another person if he is not that close to you!!!!!
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
Supernurse...I suppose it's a good thing that that would require research nowadays. For ppl my age and older, no research required.
Nice to think that kind of discrimination, hate, and bigotry could someday be a thing of the past.
notfromhere.....sorry, but I didn't know about the history of the word as I haven't felt the urge to research it that strongly....
"its not a word that springs to mind really.....I only associate it with Hip Hop and only then cos the word is used alot in the lyrics.."
Been reading this thread with interest, but hesitant to comment because part of me believes that Supernurse must be yanking your chains.
Supernurse, you only associate the word with hip-hop? Is it really possible you're totally unaware of the history of the word and its painful connotations? Hmmm.. I'm having a hard time swallowing that.
yes, well there are derogatory words for white people too but I doubt we'd resort to violence over it....yeah Mr Paul, I get peed off being called white......HOW MANY LONG BURNING HOURS DO I SIT IN THE BOILING SUN TO GET A TAN AND I'M STILL CALLED EFFING WHITE??!!! GRRRRR.....
The old SHAFT films come to mind.... Talk about sterotyping...
By the way, I think the word should be done away with completely... However, the black community needs to put its house in oeder alo.. I recall Bill Crosby using it quite recently...
I depends on if they know each other. If they don't there will be a fight soon after the word was said.
point, and i agree with him.
Its all about respecting others.
I get pissed off on here, when people refer to us as "white skins "
I am NO different to anyone else on here, we are all humans....
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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
ok, so if a black person says it to another black person do they get a good beating then?
the same as you, no one should use that word. If yer do, yer gonna get a damn good beating.
Films and music have a part to play in this i guess....
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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
Supernurse, the truth hurts doesn't it?
I think PhillyEagles2007 has pretty much covered it. I'm black myself and the only way I can justify people who use that word, black or otherwise is their ignorance. There is a lot of history and pain that is synonimous with that word. There are people within the race who call each other that and it is acceptable in some circles (music esp.), and I agree it seems rather hypocritical but slowly the word is being phased out. I wouldn't go around calling another woman's husband or boyfriend "honey" or "babe" so why would non-blacks think they can call us the N word?
If a non-black person called me that to my face, I'd probably shrug it off as ignorance. But there are people who would not be so kind...
I don't know of anyone that would say it, its not a word that springs to mind really.....I only associate it with Hip Hop and only then cos the word is used alot in the lyrics.....
It is a negative reminant of days gone bye. People have embraced a negative word the same way people sometime embrace negative sterotypes. It is a double standard but still that's the way it is.
Hang on I meant non blacks...
ok, so how come they call themselves (they, I know very a blanket term) niggas but for non whites its not acceptable? Not that I would call anyone that, but do you see my point?
As a black person I can tell you it is NOT a word that you would want to use. Even in black culture there is a movement going on to stop using the word. I am not saying its right but using this word also has rules. For you as a non black person to use this word could result in some bodily harm (not kiding).
Supernurse your logic or lack of it is sad. These same people refer to women as bit.... , so does that mean men can call women this word simply becaue they do? The reason this word is so prevelant in music and movies is because unfortunately negativity sells.
labda06 indeed I am an idiot...but only those that are sad enough to trawl profiles will find that out....anything constructive to say about the post then effwit?
the N word, even if they do call themselves it, I think it is an awful word, makes me cringe to hear it.
Supernurse I was going to respond to that but in your profile you describe yourself as an idiot...very befitting.
you should use the C word on indians......curryhead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
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I don't see what the bloody problem is with the word anyway....they call each other nigger, so whats the issue?....shoulders and chips spring to mind..
Try it they shouldn't get offended....but Indians are technically 'niggers' are they? I thought people like Snoop dogg and rappers are niggers...well thats what they call each other anyway...I spose it would be technically right to call an Indian a nigger if he was a rapper......
Uhhh...nope.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
will you get offended if somebody say 'Mor--' to you???
No, he'd just wish you the same ;)
They didn't understand it. LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Silly question
why would you say it :)
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