yes, Christmas to totally commercialized (like Ramadan)- however, in no country is one FORCED to partake of the celebrations, traditions, etc! whereas here in qatar, we have no choice -at least in public, or even our own cars- we have to join in the deprivation!! I just think in the name of cultural awareness, let each to their own!!
do qatari muslims lack such self-control that even SEEING someone else chew gum or drink water will throw them off their spiritual path?? not very complimentary to them, thinking they can't make their own choices in the face of temptation
I agree, it is nonsense that non-Muslims are forced to join in the fasting business!! and even for Muslims- really- isn't how they do it here just a cop out? It isn't really "fasting" and a sacrifice if nothing is available! A truly religious fast is one where a believer sits at a feast, and says "no thank you". That is sacrifice- this is just making it unavailable! and the driving like bats out of hell, how is that a religious experience?? although I do find myself praying when on the roads!!
How about in honor of Ramadan we cease and desist on political talks and postings? Also, if another post comes on that was similiar to one you've seen before you allow the new people or those who choose to, to get the chance to talk without saying, "this has been done so many time before!"
Just sit back, relax and have a drink on Alice! He has plenty....
come to Toronto for Ramadan.. everything is still available.. Guinness is $6.50 (about QR 23-25), in the BAR! in store is much less obviously... Hennicain in the bars is like $4.30 (QR 16)...in the store $13 (QR 46) for the pack of 6... Live music in the bars is the kind that qatar has never heard...
dish of salmon (huuuuuge plate) for QR 40... the most expensive buffet with the excellent sea-food for about QR 60-65..(you can find cheaper if you want, for something like QR 35).. InterCon has to come over here to learn how to cook sea food and the dessert for the buffet...last time we went to Intercon, there was nothing to eat there...:)
And my homecity (Zamboanga City) is a mixture of Filipino Muslims and Christians whereas 10-15% of the population are Muslims.
As I have Muslim blood from my father's side, I did had the experience of living with my paternal grandfather's muslim relatives for almost a year. We also practice Ramadan back home so when i arrived to Qatar 3 years ago, it wasn't hard to adjust...
NOW THAT I WORK for a _____-owned company, like I said, it's not that difficult...but not easy as well...
I do the very best I know how - the very best I can;
and mean to keep doing so until the end.
If the end brings me out all right,
what is SAID AGAINST ME won't amount to anything. - Abraham Lincoln
And then list all the alcohol pops was another rebel joke against islam meant to infuriate us once again.
I still think you could have done it a different way..
But now I'm worried about my pregnancy and needing extra water! I am so sorry to hear how strict it is Oryx. You'll definately have a few stories to tell the grandkids though.
jeeez princess habibah, i go away for a few moments & look what happens.
whilst i'm considerate of different cultures blah blah blah, give me a break. being not allowed to eat or drink even though i'm not muslim is bordering on lack of common decency....and common sense.
PS - not all catholics practice lent either....ooops but don't tell anyone x
so we have to lock ourselves in the toilet with a sandwich and some water.....
Last Ramadan the first day... i went and dropped juice down my white top.... obvious big panic ..... my friend went around till she found a spare scarf..for me to wear!
are not amongst the nationalities i like (due to very bad experiences in the past)...but having the chance to work with them for the last month and a half...I admit I was am wrong for generalizing about their race/nationality.
having a iota of Muslim blood in me and had the experience of Ramadan (Philippine version), it's not that difficult but not easy either...
and before I forget...ADVANCE RAMADAN KAREEM to you, PH.
I do the very best I know how - the very best I can;
and mean to keep doing so until the end.
If the end brings me out all right,
what is said against me won't amount to anything. - Abraham Lincoln
I am not offended at all if non muslims would like to do these things. Even muslims were allowed to drink until the prophet Mohammad SAW preferred milk over alcohol.
I very much believe that if you are not a muslim one should not be forced in anyway to observe our religious customs.
Although I am sure the muslim people you work with are very grateful for your consideration.
Serious question: Is my car considered my private territory or is it public? Can I smoke in my car or not? There should not be a provision for that because cars did not exist in 750 AD.
Okay I didn't realize this was the situation. I think it is uncalled for and wrong to place such rules on non muslims!
Novita.. regardless I still think that the topic could have been titled differently. Or flanost could have been a bit more explanatory to those muslims who may not understand his obsession with alcohol during ramadan.
Wow I opened this to hear about a persons first ramadan!
Knowing that muslims do not drink alcohol and ramadan is a very holy month of worship.. Is it only me that found this topic distasteful?
I have no problem with you guys having fun. However if you could try to be more considerate in the future I am sure many muslims on the site would greatly appreciate your efforts.
my husband keep persuading me to have my own card. I dont drink, the only reason he asked me to get my card so he can send me to go to QDC. No thank you ! :-)
Ah, fair enough flan. I have the advantage of being able to go during the day time, so I can take a nice leisurely stroll around. I had a momentary lapse in concentration this time and accidentally bought a case of VB!
lol! Nice one flan. But you seem a bit lager biased. Might I suggest a case of John Smiths, Kilkenny or Guinness. Or even some Speckled Hen. Just once a week, to break the monotony.
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yes, Christmas to totally commercialized (like Ramadan)- however, in no country is one FORCED to partake of the celebrations, traditions, etc! whereas here in qatar, we have no choice -at least in public, or even our own cars- we have to join in the deprivation!! I just think in the name of cultural awareness, let each to their own!!
do qatari muslims lack such self-control that even SEEING someone else chew gum or drink water will throw them off their spiritual path?? not very complimentary to them, thinking they can't make their own choices in the face of temptation
yes alexa i do eat, contrary to popular belief.
i'll have to try, i love sweets. we even had deep fried mars bars in sydney...gross hey.
oh alexa, always the realist.........and i dig it!
some people have their heads stuck in the sand.
Quit smoking during Ramadan, and it is easier, as you can't smoke in public during daytime, and then for the rest of the time, use nicotine patches..
I agree, it is nonsense that non-Muslims are forced to join in the fasting business!! and even for Muslims- really- isn't how they do it here just a cop out? It isn't really "fasting" and a sacrifice if nothing is available! A truly religious fast is one where a believer sits at a feast, and says "no thank you". That is sacrifice- this is just making it unavailable! and the driving like bats out of hell, how is that a religious experience?? although I do find myself praying when on the roads!!
Had you guys going did I?
America is a great place to by hebrew national sausages and salami, Oscar Meyer turkey bacon, and some lovely beef bacon too!
I'm loving it at the moment!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
My friend, you are in the right track with the most convenient way in how to survive very happily, during Ramadan.
I'm very happy with my 14 bottles of red and white fermented Spanish grapes, since 2003.
I hear St. Patrick was an Englishman!"
How about in honor of Ramadan we cease and desist on political talks and postings? Also, if another post comes on that was similiar to one you've seen before you allow the new people or those who choose to, to get the chance to talk without saying, "this has been done so many time before!"
Just sit back, relax and have a drink on Alice! He has plenty....
You can't teach experience...
You can't teach experience...
Isnt that haram ?
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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
come to Toronto for Ramadan.. everything is still available.. Guinness is $6.50 (about QR 23-25), in the BAR! in store is much less obviously... Hennicain in the bars is like $4.30 (QR 16)...in the store $13 (QR 46) for the pack of 6... Live music in the bars is the kind that qatar has never heard...
dish of salmon (huuuuuge plate) for QR 40... the most expensive buffet with the excellent sea-food for about QR 60-65..(you can find cheaper if you want, for something like QR 35).. InterCon has to come over here to learn how to cook sea food and the dessert for the buffet...last time we went to Intercon, there was nothing to eat there...:)
..come come over here... much more fun...:)
I had bacon earlier today! It was oh so yummy!
If you ever would like kids you can adopt mine part time! Take the hubby with you too.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Flo - So much for the honored guest treatment ;)
I have to agree with tallg, a little biased on your stock. As long as you are not sharing you might make it through.
PH - You mean kumis is okay to drink?
And my homecity (Zamboanga City) is a mixture of Filipino Muslims and Christians whereas 10-15% of the population are Muslims.
As I have Muslim blood from my father's side, I did had the experience of living with my paternal grandfather's muslim relatives for almost a year. We also practice Ramadan back home so when i arrived to Qatar 3 years ago, it wasn't hard to adjust...
NOW THAT I WORK for a _____-owned company, like I said, it's not that difficult...but not easy as well...
I do the very best I know how - the very best I can;
and mean to keep doing so until the end.
If the end brings me out all right,
what is SAID AGAINST ME won't amount to anything. - Abraham Lincoln
PH, congrats on the bub! but please give him/her some water.
I doubt it PH as I have no kids....
Allah hasn't been that Kareem with me in that department!
but I did once fly to iran with pork sandwiches ...i am proud of that.... maybe the cat will listen :)
lol Oryx ... god help me ferrying my son after school hours ... paddling through the traffic during finishing office hours around doha.
and just before iftar time ... stay off the road ... !!!
I was commenting on the topic flanostu
I just felt that to title "my first ramadan"
And then list all the alcohol pops was another rebel joke against islam meant to infuriate us once again.
I still think you could have done it a different way..
But now I'm worried about my pregnancy and needing extra water! I am so sorry to hear how strict it is Oryx. You'll definately have a few stories to tell the grandkids though.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
My coping strategies are fine and skilled.
I have the travel kettle in one drawer
tea bags in another
cups in another
secret knock to get in my office
if i ever want a life of crime i am well trained
patience is the best lesson we get through ramadhan. -------------THINK HIGH LIVE SIMPLE------------------
jeeez princess habibah, i go away for a few moments & look what happens.
whilst i'm considerate of different cultures blah blah blah, give me a break. being not allowed to eat or drink even though i'm not muslim is bordering on lack of common decency....and common sense.
PS - not all catholics practice lent either....ooops but don't tell anyone x
My buddy Pope
you can do that sort of thing with me, not with tender azzi, please.
Oryx, you will get through it just like previous years :-)
Also PH we get the annual Ramadan Memo at my work
a) thou shalt not eat in the office
b) thou shalt not drink in the office
c) thou shalt be immediately deporte if thou do
or words to those effect
so we have to lock ourselves in the toilet with a sandwich and some water.....
Last Ramadan the first day... i went and dropped juice down my white top.... obvious big panic ..... my friend went around till she found a spare scarf..for me to wear!
Ah the joys
having a iota of Muslim blood in me and had the experience of Ramadan (Philippine version)
What is the Philippine version? San Miguel?
I hear St. Patrick was an Englishman!"
no comment
Oh Azilana thank you so much.. May Allah reward you InshAllah ameen.
How sweet!
You probably have more experience of ramadan then me.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
are not amongst the nationalities i like (due to very bad experiences in the past)...but having the chance to work with them for the last month and a half...I admit I was am wrong for generalizing about their race/nationality.
having a iota of Muslim blood in me and had the experience of Ramadan (Philippine version), it's not that difficult but not easy either...
and before I forget...ADVANCE RAMADAN KAREEM to you, PH.
I do the very best I know how - the very best I can;
and mean to keep doing so until the end.
If the end brings me out all right,
what is said against me won't amount to anything. - Abraham Lincoln
Peace, both of you are exceptionally beautiful. That's why I'm confused. Don't you understand men?
azilana
I am not offended at all if non muslims would like to do these things. Even muslims were allowed to drink until the prophet Mohammad SAW preferred milk over alcohol.
I very much believe that if you are not a muslim one should not be forced in anyway to observe our religious customs.
Although I am sure the muslim people you work with are very grateful for your consideration.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Never doubted it, Alexa. It's just not that obvious.
I'm not sure who of you two confuses me more. Alexa has such beautiful blue eyes, but the rest???
lol MD ... i hv no idea. This is my 7th ... and i am still around :P Not the end of the world as you know it ...
I'm the only NON-MUSLIM in the company so from 7AM till 3pm...I have to.
At least it would be easier for me to stick to my diet...
No offense, PH...this would be my 3rd ramadan and i look forward to the cooler evenings (I hope) with some FRIENDS over shiesha and tea...
I do the very best I know how - the very best I can;
and mean to keep doing so until the end.
If the end brings me out all right,
what is said against me won't amount to anything. - Abraham Lincoln
Don't worry novi, this is my 15th Ramadan here. How do you think I survived?
now you confuse MD ...
MD ... dont do that. Not advisable. Just need 1 person who fast and craving cigarette next to you in the traffic light then it would be the end of it.
Serious question: Is my car considered my private territory or is it public? Can I smoke in my car or not? There should not be a provision for that because cars did not exist in 750 AD.
Okay I didn't realize this was the situation. I think it is uncalled for and wrong to place such rules on non muslims!
Novita.. regardless I still think that the topic could have been titled differently. Or flanost could have been a bit more explanatory to those muslims who may not understand his obsession with alcohol during ramadan.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
you going to jail if you caught eating in drinking during ramadhan. Not even chewing gum ...
no cafe or eateries opened till iftar time.
only recently hotel opened up for day time meals during Ramadhan.
maybe you should arrive in Qatar first before commenting anything that you are not familiar with.
I don't get it?
Why would you guys be forced to partake or have to fast during the day when your out in and about?
you guys are not muslims? And what about muslim women on their period?
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
i am not fasting ... but i am 'force' to fast during the day while i am out and about ...
i am not complaining ... so PH ... you shouldnt complaining either.
Wow I opened this to hear about a persons first ramadan!
Knowing that muslims do not drink alcohol and ramadan is a very holy month of worship.. Is it only me that found this topic distasteful?
I have no problem with you guys having fun. However if you could try to be more considerate in the future I am sure many muslims on the site would greatly appreciate your efforts.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Thanks Tallg ... sorry ...
Thanks for the explanation, obviously my husband dont drink those VB lol.
HaHaHa - nice one Novi! Yep, I bought me a case of Victoria Beckham.
See comment above yours for VB explanation!
.flanusto, something is missing...
.
i'm lookin for some bottle of vodka,,,
.
couldn't find some from your list..
.
My guess pretty close ....
It brings back happy memories of Melbourne.
can someone tell me what is VB? Victoria Beckham?
Hi Novi. VB is Victoria Bitter (though it's actually a lager), a beer brewed in Australia. I'm sure flan will know what it is.
novi, stay away from VB!!!
Lol novi..
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Heard your wife left you,
How upset you must be.
But don't fret about it...
She moved in with me.
now...wer xactly did u say u live,flan? :-p
what is VB tallg?
my husband keep persuading me to have my own card. I dont drink, the only reason he asked me to get my card so he can send me to go to QDC. No thank you ! :-)
darude.. so will u be fastin tomorrow nite also? :P
Ah, fair enough flan. I have the advantage of being able to go during the day time, so I can take a nice leisurely stroll around. I had a momentary lapse in concentration this time and accidentally bought a case of VB!
novi.. lol.. i will go sometime in d day to avoid d crowd..
good luck harsha ... you will have to spend all day to queue in QDC ...
darude, i'll drink fast with you. it's the same thing right?
tallg, i hear you man....all good drinks as well. the crowd was too big tonight so I was in a hurry to get out.
have to go on sat to stock the booze.. lol..
I have used up all mine for this month... Damm.. what the hell I'm thinking....
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Heard your wife left you,
How upset you must be.
But don't fret about it...
She moved in with me.
Any One Suggest me,how to quite Smoking in Day time ? LOL
"Drink Beer Save Water"
lol! Nice one flan. But you seem a bit lager biased. Might I suggest a case of John Smiths, Kilkenny or Guinness. Or even some Speckled Hen. Just once a week, to break the monotony.
daru i bet
brutus_ceasar ... dont be a free loader ... stock up your own booze :-)
good evening Alexa and all ...
alexa, i just need someone to drink with now :(
well at least i've got 2 bbq invites for this weekend :)
am going to make you fast atleast for one day with me
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HHMM.. Probably can be invited by flan..
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Heard your wife left you,
How upset you must be.
But don't fret about it...
She moved in with me.
flan any other ? :P
nope
Aren't we supposed to be fasting during the Ramadan month?
NO Sex
NO Food
During the daytime??
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Heard your wife left you,
How upset you must be.
But don't fret about it...
She moved in with me.