Lebanese Mentality

better trust filipino man ? pff racist

tahnk god im lebanese ;)

Just sing the song I will survive in his face and walk away... Cuz we all know that u will and u will do much better than him. He needs u more than u do. Be strong girl :D QL is with u. Also do what Hoplessly said, she is a very smart woman :)

It's always the small things that make big differences.

 Paula, as I said before, do not listen to anyones opinion. Your opinion is what matters. You can know whatever you want when you look in his eyes. No one can know him better than you. God gave us the brain to think and evaluate and analize. Be wise dear.

And trust be, beautiful faces and eyes are a curse sometimes. Ask a Lebanese!

Me, Myself, & I

Thanks to all of u...We're back on talking terms now - didn't manage to discuss it in depth as there was no time, but the next friday is coming for sure. But I cannot imagine that he's only abusing me, the way he touches me and holds me tight...

And yes, they happen to have beautiful faces - and especially beautiful eyes...

every genius and talented person here is building conclusions on single experience, so shall we give our opinion about Americans based on our experience with George W Bush? or about the Germans based on our info about Hitler?

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specially Arabs

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here is nothing special,not even worth to leave a country like Qatar.

i hope they will find a way.

wish them all the best and good luck

my wife thinks he just wants to go with u to switz... *talking to wife: are u sure hon?"

 *answering back:

hon,cmon' guys aren't users! at least, on my behalf i know i'm not.

oh, sorry... try this test.  tell him u can't take him there... because, i don't know... u come up with sumthin.

Dude not all people are like that. Some still care u know. 

It's always the small things that make big differences.

i hv a friend who happens 2 b a lebanese... I quote him saying "nver trust a Lebanese"

i took his words.

i think u r d best judge of his character.

Marriage is forever.  Ask urself this question, am i willing to spend the rest of my life with him?

Then u decide.

Ok, let's get outta here...we have diverted this thread completely!

Oops!

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House 

Now I believe you...sort of!

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House 

I edited my last post!!!  Sorry, My mistake!  

My mistake, I've only seen 12 episodes of season 4    

I don't believe you!

I always assume everyone lies

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House 

I see your signature quote is from the fictional character "Gregory House", from the T.V. series, "House M.D."

Snap, I am a huge fan of the show and think the writers and actors / actresses do a fantastic job!

I can recommend watching House M.D. to anyone!!!

I hate you already!!!!

The season is not even half done yet... hmmm 

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

Seen all of season 4 already!

 heheheheh who doesnt like this seductive song? And Haifa Wehbe the singer? She is #***#** beautiful

Me, Myself, & I

My fav leb song

let me guess hd2u, you don't like the singer?? 

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

Ok, I'm buying the 4th season before you even know it!

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

 In this I might agree with you Jinkz. Lebanese men are playboys. LOL they think God created only them on earth.  But still I like them, but never come near. LOL

Me, Myself, & I

Y ou've killed it, you've ruined it for me!

Did you really have to break my heart??? waaaaaaa

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

ooh, i admire lebanese girls you have the prettiest faces and the sexiest bods! i just don't think most of your men are that great...but the women...SWEEEET!

I'm not lesbo btw, just so you know but loooooove looking at great bodies and cute faces both gender

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

I've bought all the sets and have seen them all!

I am the biggest fan, you are second!       (joke)

 Jinkz I admire your challenging spirit. We, Lebanese legends, are nice people, try to know us more.

Me, Myself, & I

Yup, biggest fan here! Biggest fan!

I'm almost done downloading first 3 seasons...woohoo! 

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

Oh Yeah...Bring it on babe! ~lol

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

 Jinkz LOL can you handle it?

Me, Myself, & I

I'm sorry, what was that? I must have missed the point when you broke it to me, could you break it to me again? ~lol

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

 Jinkz, sorry to break it to you, but Lebanese have all the reasons in the world to be the way they are! LOL

"If Lebanon was not my country, I would have chosen Lebanon to be my country"... Gobran Khalil Gobran

Me, Myself, & I

I have 1 close lebanese friend and he admits he's a prick ~lol

Although, I must say they have the best looking faces in the arab world!

....but still wouldn't make me go out with one

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

Lebanese girls are the best of the best!  While Lebanese guys think God created 50 women for each one of them! But I have to admit that when they truly love, they can be the best romantic men on earth. I SAID "WHEN" which refers to rarely. LOL

My advice is to sit and talk with him. Put your worries on the table and discuss it. Show him truly how much you love and want him from one side, and try to explain yourself and what you think should happen from the other side. Communication is the shortest way for understanding. Do not listen to anyones opinion. The opinion that matters is your OWN. People have different mentalities and points of view, and eachone will advice you according to his/her own experience and views. Think well, decide, and go for it.

Me, Myself, & I

lol jinkz!

 What if some lebenese heard?

Covering myself from the missiles flying your way mate!

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

Check out this link Paula

http://www.anolitasmind.com/2006/09/22/oriental-arab-men/ 

That was posted by an angry arab woman...you might say it's stereotyping but some of us, no matter what our origin is or where we grew up, we can never run away from our roots. Lebanese, though they are liberated/westernized arabs, i hate to break it to you, they are still Arabs and i'm sorry but they are labelled as Egotistic and Arrogant amongst all arabs.

“They say you can't live without love. Tell them oxygen is more important!.”

- G. House

for your replies and ideas and suggestions! This is really overwhelming!

The thing is, I don't wanna get rid of him, but on the other hand I don't wann give up myself totally. I'd rather go for the compromise - but still, I'm not sure if he's able to compromise... And I'm not too sure how to talk with him, as he's ignoring me at the moment. What I am rally sure about is that I wanna fight for the relation - I know that I don't enjoy "easy" relationsships with "easy" men, who are always doing what I want.

I asked myself about this relocation/nationality/sex thing - certainly I am convinced that it is nothing out of that (he applied for Canadian citizenship, but as I'm not Canadian, I can't help there), and I asked him a couple of times if it was only sex he's searching for - he was hurt and disappointed about this question. I also have the feeling that whenever I say something that's not too nice, he's really hurt.

The bad thing is that he's ignoring me now after our argument - and I don't know, should I wait or should I approach him?

Good evening ladies and gentlemen...

And before I comment on anything in this topic...Alexa, I have to tell ya mate, that all through this thread I've been reading your posts and ooo...I have to admit that those replies are absolutely fantastic...and I respect you for every post...

Well, as for you Paula, same answer mate...take it easy, its always good enough to be careful now, rather than sorry and shattered later...so take it easy, TIME will tell for sure, and on a much much lighter note, if at all you decide that you wanna try someone else, hey buddy, you can always turn to me...Lol...(dont turn towards DaRude)...my doors are always open buddy...;)

And Da...how dare you ask Jamila when me or smokey arent around...especially when I'm not around...Jamila dont listen to him girl...

And speaking of which, where in the world are you mate...long time...been missing you already,... whats happening on that list mate...and by the way hows you doin anyways...

you have to arabize your thinking so you will understand him

it is better for you and him to leave each other bec it seems there is different way of thinking. he is thinking to make a family with you because he loves you but you still not ready for that not bec u r not ready but bec your thinking is different.

have you asked your self if he has to wait you till you become ready. when yo will be ready? sure you don't know.

because your thinking if you get married you will get older and less free and thats  wat you dont

ahh Da, its better for me to stalk you :D

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Oh no infact she is jealous Jass is also from nigeria pure black cant see her until she doesnt smile in darkness :D

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stop lying Da we all know you are violet blue :D

tra la la

Follow the teachings of Dubai One adverts  - "Live your life until love is found or love is going to get you down"   -  Perhaps I do watch too much television, mmm, think I need to get out more.

Qatars best known Pirate - Yaarr!

if i paint white myself will that work :D or daily take shower in powder and cream :D

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This guy is a control freak.  He will not stop until you are totally within his control.  You cannot love him because you already question his actions, love is blind, remember??  Get rid, sweetheart, NOW!!!

Trust me on this one, I know how they can be.

DaRude - I like white dudes, are you? lol

Alexa - Oh that's good, I really hope my reply helps Paula,  for some reason I worried about her.

i need african nationality will you marry me :D

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Sorry Alexa I don't get that

Dear Paula, when an Arab man dates a non-arab woman, specially american or european, there could be something behind it. Means, he could be after something = nationality, relocating, sex. In a sec. he could become Your Romeo to get what he's after.

In General, Arab men are possesive and controling, and and they don't like it, when women give them love anytime and all the time. You need to act hard-to-get. If you end up together, don't ever expect to get your full rights as a woman. This kids thing is to make you believe he's serious about you. After 2weeks!! lol they do like Drama, mind games, and showing off, so "becareful" and Take your time. You know the guy...If you think he loves you, try to test him to make sure.

Let me see Lebanese man says he wants to marry you and have kids.

MMMMmmmmmmmm.......have you put out yet because they will say anything to get you there.

Unless you are a Muslim I would not count on this being a long term thing just enjoy it while it lasts...

My Wife has friends dating Lebanese, they have this phrase MMD= My Mohammed is different.....IE they are all the same but some realise quicker than others

Good luck  

Oryx I agree with you in that their are good and bad in every culture and country. And one can find hypocritical people every where.

But where fundemental religion is concerned it is raised to a whole new level as PM said.

And muslims have alot of culture mixed in with Islamic belief that tends to turn into oppression of women and non-muslims.

My own husband is english in every way but even with him I had Islamic issues in the beginning of the marriage. And we are both in the same agreement with our values and goals in life.  So if it is that hard for 2 muslims to see eye to eye then imagine the situation for a christian women married to a muslim man who sees her values as secondary to his own. Especially when he views his own opinions are supported by his "superior" religion.   (At least in his eyes)

Haven't you ever seen the movie "Not without my daughter?"

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

 a good conversation may solve your worries. you have to be open to each other on what and how you feel, then compromise. everything is up to you. you cant let anyone push you to do something that wont make u happy especially if it is a life time commitment. and i agree with gypsy...arab attitudes are very difficult they tend to be very pushy. though they say they understand you or want u to be happy, but in the end they want things as they like. so, think twice or thrice about it...

I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it.  ~Charles Schulz

Well from my PERSONAL experience i see many sanctimonious hypocritical Christians and I dont' think Muslims have the 'lead' on this one by any shape or form.

I would never say dont marry a Muslim because of hypocracy.... maybe PH you have dated many and have a lot more experience but I just haven't seen it myself....

 any relationship has possible pitfalls.

and good of her to explain to her friends the possible pitfalls.

Paula, 

JUat make sure he is not making you feel like the arguments and fights are your fault and that you are the guilty one.  IF that is so, that is a scary situation that you need to step back and have a critical look at.

 Just be open an honest with him, and discuss this problem and how you are feeling with him. He might have no idea there is even a problem. If he loves you enough to want to marry you and have children, then he should be willing to work through this and find a solution.

 GOod luck!

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What utter Rot.

Christians can be like that too as can Hindis Jews Buddhists - u name it. Hypocrisy is everywhere.

From my personal experience that is utter codswollop.

oryx.. the thing is that she won't have religious problems to deal with. Muslims can be very hypocritical. One minute they are completely free spirited drinking alcohol and the next they decide to be a religious fanatic. Especially after the children arrived.

I always advise all my christian friends to tread very carefully when they get in a relationship with a muslim. And really only if they plan to convert themselves.

hummmmm thought I'm being quite considerate by suggesting that too.

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

Adventures are fine...that is why I dont like to feel I am in jail!

'Christians are alot better than muslims Paula'! - What?

not my experience and a stupid comment anyway

I am refering to lebanese after my ONE encounter not the whole Arab world!

I tell you a Mexican can be more jealous than anything!

Gypsy I have to agree with you on there. My mother has been married quite a few times (cough cough) to my father (arab) and Italian step father (3rd husband).  And sure they are equally passionate and hot blooded.. But the way they view womens rights are completely different.

Having said that, Christians are alot better than muslims Paula. They are more open minded about accepting the western culture. Which sounds great for you! So perhaps some of Alexa's charms and advice would really benefit in that situation. (as I agreed with her for once)

p.s. Alexa I was joking on the shia thread..

PM... I'm sorry to hear about the kuwaitee guy.  It sounds like he still has alot of work to do on himself and InshAllah I hope the experience will make him a better person.  Allahu Alim his heart!

The point is that  you tried your best and Allah has seen that. And he will guide you. Since I have read your posts on here my belief is that you are a very warm and caring person. And truly sincere in your belief of Allah. May Allah make it easy for you sister.

And don't forget to have an arse kicking pole for the next time around. I just bought one for my mom as she goes through divorce number 5! And she is really enjoying herself this time lol.

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

Gypo - Hello!

basically that is what i was trying to say with my anecdote.....

:)

NWFP hmm well we are advanced :P

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 From my experience I don't like the kind of attitude you're describing Paula.  I've experienced it mostly from Arab men and it's just not something I can deal with, which is why I probably wouldn't consider dating a Lebanese guys again, and would probably never advise anyone to.

Visit www.qatarhappening.com

LOL, yeah, nice place!  

i am from NWFP

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Didn't know you were afghani, Darude.

ROFLMAO!!!

He's Christian, and I am not sure how religious he is - yesterday he went to church, that's what I know... I am not Christian, not religious in any way at all...I don't know his family, only know that his mother passed away years ago...that he loved her very much...and that he loves his nephews and siblings...

This children thing is still too much for me - I'm not planning to have kids before two more years, first because of my job, second because I wanna know him better...

And I think the major thing is time and patience, you are so right...and patience is my personal issue..

Dont worry am writting a book on that so not only the Qlers but the whole world knows it that relation does get mature even after going through hard times.

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Dont be Jealous :D

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Thank you Thank you :D

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PM your still friends with your ex? How cool is that!

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

Paula there are alot of social issues when dealing with men of other cultures.  

Is he christian or Muslim lebenese?

How religious is he?

what is his family like? (as they are a reflection of himself in many ways)

 What does he expect in male/female roles in a relationship?

What are the beliefs of people in his country? Child custody, divorce, domestic violence, talking with other men?

Is he jealous?(Alot of arab men are not very happy with their wives talking to men although many do not show it when they are trying to catch you!)

My advice would be to take your time about having children with him. Get to know him and his family first. And let them get to know and accept you! And have an exit plan should you marry him! 

I helped to arrange a marriage for an english girl. And because the mother accepted who she was and her way of life.. they are now very very happy in her situation. And has just arrived safely back from a trip to his home country. It has taken alot of understanding and TIME from both sides but it can be done.

Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi

Yes, Insha'Allah PM, Insha'Allah!   LOL

PM,

well, best keep an eye out for the next chapter in your love life then!!

PM, I agree totally!!!

She's one of my best friends!  (the only girl I can really say that about)

Strange though, to have such love for someone, but not want anymore! 

... and because she's so attractive and now sweet (she wasn't before), people just don't understand!

I guess people can't untill they've been in that situation!!

I think I got hurt, but he did as well...hope we can fix it and it's not totally broken...

The only way to understand these kind of things is through the hard way, what ever we try to explain here is just a message... you need to expirience it by your self... Good luck and I hope you don't get hurt... too much!

This is not too wrong actually, but I really don't wanna split up with him - this is why I was asking. If I wanted to split up, that's easy even without advice ;-)

Thank you anyway...

The reason we split wasn't the lack of sparks honey, it was far, far too many! (good and bad)!  

(Paula1, sorry for hijacking)

German speaking part?

also sent you a pm..

QT, dont let the sparks goes out. Do something to bring it back.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

I've been in love Mila, and I know she loves me!

Sometimes, that's not enough!  Trust me! 

(We still love each other, however, now we are good friends and the love has changed into friendship love, no more!) 

Although, I'm glad it's worked out for you!  

all the best to you and your future wife

:-)))

If you know about cultural issues, Mabrouk, you're one step ahead - this is why I'm asking, because I wanna know and learn about this culture and mentality. And I don't wanna "hang on this man", I wanna know how to handle the differences between him and me. You never finish learning in your life, at least this is my opinion.

And as I said before, I don't have any friends here to discuss my issues with, and as a European woman I am used to discuss problems before I decide what to do. This is not because I am not mature, but to see things from another point of view - sometimes somebody else sees things in a different light and helps you understanding why things are like they are. This thread has really calmed me down and makes me think about things in a different way because I'm not limited to my own point of view and understanding, but also have the input of others with a different background and experience.

10 years????   Ask me in 2 years!!   

I'll be married with the 1st kid on the way at least.  Just enjoying single life now while I can, because I know it is very, very limited and time is running out!  

QT, single is not the best damn thing in the world. hehehehe... but find somebody that you loved and they loves you back and still you can do stuffs like single do is the best damn thing. Trust me I know.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Yea not all lebanese r like that. U just have to find the one who's the best, or

make them the best. U know the best thing abut humans is that u can change

them. 

It's always the small things that make big differences.

Could I just interrupt you lovely ladies and say "Each to their own!"

If you are not the type to play games, then you should find someone who doesn't either!  If on the ther hand you're constantly looking to spice things up, then you should find someone to reciprocate!

Simple!  

(Just a suggestion girls, please don't bite my head off  )

...wondering what you would say when we talk in maybe 10years again about it.

lol

maybe in 10 years you are a happy married man with 3 kids around,a very proud dad and satisfied husband.

he heeeeee

cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeersssssssssssssssss

I LOVE BEING SINGLE!!!

...and now you all know why!

On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.

(Antoine de Saint-Exupery)

As usual people are generalizing.

I'm Arabic, in my past (and present) I give total freedom to the person I'm with. I'm loyal, trusting and all I ask for is to know what's going on in general. (meaning I dont want to hear that my girlfriend has gone to Las Vegas and not told me what's up until after she's back :P)

I went out with a Japanese girl who I adored and was engaged to. She ended up using me.

 I gave her 3 and a half years of my life. Do I regret it? Not at all.

My father once said, Never regret anything that once made you smile.

It's true, those moments of happiness were something I'd never want to give up.

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In the time I been here around I heard many YAAAAAAAKKKS about the lebanese guys... so i think is just a natural behavior of them.... it is build in... they are like they are...like it or not..

Without to mention they title themselves Europeans and not Arabs... hehehe silly thing.... I even heard: "We don't speak Arabic in lebannon but French"...

hahahahahaha... My sarcasm says enough...

i don't think its just Lebanese...all guys are like that...  peace!

Yes most are confused. They dont keep u hanging on and giving u hope and

it never ends. The girl says to be with u if god wills, but then whenever they

get the first oppertunity or find someone... they leave. It's like a big mind 

game that they play, keeping u in hope. 

It's always the small things that make big differences.

...imho this is not a matter of maturing, but of understanding different cultures...as far as I can see. I mean, Alexa is right when she says that all men are like this, but still the Mediterraneans or Arabs are different. And unfortunately I don't have too many people in this country to get advise from, so I am very happy and thankful that there are people around here who are actually trying to help me finding a solution or explanation.

I am sorry my friend... I like a lot of your posts.... but if i thought someone was in a destructive relationship i would ask them to consider the possibility of leaving.

Of course you shouldn't do what someone else says like a zombie....

but you ask for advice to receive different opinions - at the end of the day it is up to you to weigh up the opinions and act!

I should back away for a bit and let him approach me?

Arabs men, they want you to be for themself only(is normal mostly men are, but this one as Oryx say is tooo suffocating... hehehehe). They dont want you to go anywhere without him or atleast without his permission (not the other way around tho apparently), he loves and adore you like you are their queen. They always have sweet words to melt your heart. They loves their mother more then anything (which is good but not too good when we already become their wifes) hehehehe... competition.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Ditch the Lebba. Collect an Asian this time ;)

by the way Alexa Cornellian is dutch name and never say Corne because really it is so bad name in dutch,

before I started arguing and scaring him, he was sooo cute and natural, I couldn't believe it...

how dare someone advise you to leave a relationship.

No shame and I hope that if they are in a relationship, someone advises THEIR partner to leave him/her.

Here is my advice. Just go with your gut.

For me, I do whatever I can so I never look back and think 'what if'.

Changing is essential for couples. But it has to go both ways. We compromise and accept people's differences.

It's clear when a guy or a girl is playing you. Love is blind as they say. Yes it's an old adage, but it's true.

Explain a story to people, take their input. Never accept if someone says "Stay or leave'. let them explain what they would do and why.

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...you know this from your own experience?

Every one wants to be adored...of course. but this was suffocating! wayyyyyyyy too intense and possessive and unrealistic..... it SCARED  me!

Whoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaa

firing on all cylinders..... that is so right.

We should close the thread now because you have tied it up neatly!

thats must some experience for you Oryx. LOL.. no even a kiss??? hahahahha... poor guy.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Show me anyone who doesn't want to be adored! lol 

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

And that's why Alexa, I don't think I can be with an Arab guy. I would drive him nuts! lol 

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

Mila - I didn't even kiss him...! On the 4th date i was hyperventilating before he came round!

You know it aint going to work out when....................... lol

It was smothering but he boasted about himself and country.

He struck me as an insecure nice guy who was rather confused.  He wanted someone to adore him.

:-)

Medo, I never said he shouldn't treat her as an equal. Ofcourse he should treat her as an equal and nothing less. Give him what he needs, and he'll  reciprocate by treating her like his queen...how is that slavery ?  

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

To Live Is To Die.....Life Is Like A Fuse.....So Short And Burning Really Fast.....So Live Your Life To The Fullest.....!!!!!

see even Oryx learned the hardway!!! learned from other experience.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Cornellian that is slave sound

the man should respect the woman and deal with her as equal not as you said

he used her as slave until she had the chance to use him as slave

which kind of life you call that  

becareful it isn't just the european passport he is after!

I went out with a lebanese guy on a few dates and i found him completely suffocating.... I rannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

to all of you...guess I have to learn a lot about patience...do you think after we had an argument that was not finished and was my fault somehow, I should wait for him to contact me? Coz I called him afterwards and we were both in a hurry, so we did not finish our talks and are not back to a peaceful situation...

HI SG39, congrats with your sweetheart. Hope he stay like that and make you more happier.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

Alexa, "Thing is , you are dealing with a hot  blooded mediterranian man here.....give him what he needs and you will be his queen."... Amen to that !

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

i dont know about others but my sweetheart never wanted to come to Swiss permanently.

Only for holidays/family visitings and so on.

And Paula1,was not easy for me to understand the Arab mentality in general and i am still learning.All i can say you need a lot of pacion,a big heart,understanding and last but not least...tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Good luck and all the best to you .

Paula, man are complicated. Perhaps he want something more just dont know how to say it to you. So my advise talk to him nicely without creating new arguements. Ask what he really want and what he really feel inside. Tell him do not be afraid to tell the truth even the truth is hurt and painfull. Best medicine is let the time will tell... if you both destined to be together no matter what you will be together.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

just leave him normal lebanese they always care about what they want not what the other wants

They marriage in there opinion is like relation between master & slave sure lebanese will never be slave

siobhanhill not at all lebanese are lebanese not arabic nor european belive me

I had this experience before in Europe - but never in such a strong way, wow, he wants be me to be tough and in the next minute the sweet pussycat....that's a bit too much for me - or am I too narrow????

Lebanese men are not European they are arabic, please bear that in mind.

...but why do they wanna be treated in a cold way????

As Mila has kindly done as above Paula...my advice is run for the hills!!

nope....how exactly would you phrase this warning??

I think from what I can understand why Lebanese or Arabs men after western woman so bad, cos they want to get out from their country and if possible change the nationality, thats their first agenda, second agenda if the person really loved somebody/the western woman and want children straight away, is because they want to have their descendents as in many years their home land is in war and many many have died, so in their nature blood they want to have children to continue the legacy.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

mmm thats what happens when you get involved with lebanese men!! Did anyone warn you prior to entering the relationship?!

...is a good word. I have the impression that he really loves and wants me, and that somehow we are a very good match. But then again he wants to be THE MAN, and "conquer" me...and therefore I have to be cold and reject him, as it seems - you know, like not calling him or sending sms, waiting for him to act...and I really don't like that, ,because when I wanna call, I wanna be allowed to call him.

What do you think?

Lebanese girls are confused and have contradictions in their minds ?? I beg to differ.  

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

it's 3 months now, and I have the feeling that this kids thing is solved. It's only that he needs to have the feeling that he can run after me, you know, that I am kind of cold and rejecting him so that can "conquer" me. But I am not that kind of person, when I love someone I don't wanna play those games, I wanna be how I am, but obviously that's too nice for him...are lebanese ladies cold? I can't imagine...but maybe I'm wrong...

What gave u the impression that he wants to be treated badly ?

I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong -Garfield

there's no such thing as mr. right or wrong, couples are not made in heaven,

they are just a part of the choices we make. If he makes u secure, if he 

completes you, if he puts ur life before his own, then he is the right one.

I can tell u about the mentality of lebanese girls, they are confused and have

contradictions in their minds or atleast most of them. 

It's always the small things that make big differences.

...after what?

And why do you think he will leave me?

so you just be with him for 2 weeks now and he want kids/family??? wow... he is after something here for sure... please talk to him face to face and solve this problem, dont be afraid to tell him whats your concerns and agenda. if he is really loves you he should understand you more and give you what you want.

Everybody is right Everybody is wrong, it depend where we stand.

 Leave him or afterwards he will leave u

Nobody dies virgin, in the end life f*cks us all!