Kim Jong IL has a stroke - What now ?

britexpat
By britexpat

North Korea denies that its leader Kim Jong Il is sick
Diplomats in North Korea have dismissed as a "conspiracy plot" reports that dictator Kim Jong Il is unwell despite increasing suspicions that he has suffered a serious health complaint such as a stroke.

If he is incapacitated, it is feared that his illness could jeopardize the already troubled international effort to persuade his nation to abandon nuclear weapons.

The speculation over his condition follows weeks of absence from public view and rumours that foreign doctors were brought in to treat him.

Song Il Ho, a senior North Korean diplomat, told Japan's Kyodo News that those reports are "not true."

"We see such reports as not only worthless, but rather as a conspiracy plot," he told Kyodo in what the agency said was the country's first reaction to the reports. Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's No. 2 official, said there was "no problem" with Kim, Kyodo said. No further details were given.

The Kyodo report followed a bulletin by South Korea's Yonhap news agency the previous day, which claimed an unidentified South Korean government official said Kim appeared to have "collapsed".

In the Korean language the word "collapsed" is used when a person becomes ill suddenly, a typical cause being a stroke.

"There is reason to believe Kim Jong Il has suffered a serious health setback, possibly a stroke," one Western intelligence official said.

The state of Kim's health has been the subject of much conjecture over the last few years. The most recent concerns came after his absence at the event commemorating one of the country's most celebrated holidays along with the birthdays of Kim and his late father - the country's founding leader - Kim Il Sung.

By heero_yuy2• 11 Sep 2008 18:42
heero_yuy2

I also thought he's supposed to be dead by now...

"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach

By Harry99• 11 Sep 2008 18:36
Harry99

By the way,

Two Arkansans are walking down different ends of a street toward each other and one is carrying a sack. When they meet,

one says, "Hey Tommy Ray, what'cha got in th' bag?"

"Jus' some chickens."

"If I guess how many there are, can I have one?"

"I'll give you both of them."

"OK. Ummmmm......, five?"

By Vegas• 11 Sep 2008 14:20
Vegas

My point is quit generalizing that the whole country is yankee...

The northeast was yankee back in the day...

But not now...

So quit calling ALL of us yankee's

Understand now???

You can't teach experience...

By kenyaqueen• 11 Sep 2008 07:33
kenyaqueen

ya! its a "catch 22 situation" lol!

I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.

By tallg• 11 Sep 2008 07:23
tallg

Wow. So many double standards.

By anonymous• 11 Sep 2008 07:13
anonymous

Could I call you my american from Las Vegas?

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By kenyaqueen• 11 Sep 2008 06:27
kenyaqueen

I know how you feel! get over it already, I have. The man meant no harm and if ya can't see that then your blind. If you really wanna bitch about something like this ware a button that say "Stop Racism" NOW!

I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.

By adey• 11 Sep 2008 06:12
Rating: 3/5
adey

You do know that Aussies call Americans something far worse don't you?

Ever heard of Seppo?

Shortened version of Septic Tank (rhyming with Yank)

Septic tank equals sewage container.!!!

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365

not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the

many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers

were given. Satan - 10."

By QT• 11 Sep 2008 04:49
QT

Just what the world needs, more nuclear weapons!

:(

By QT• 11 Sep 2008 04:48
QT

I'll have to stop too! :(

Except when I'm talking to Tig and Red Pope privately!

:)

By Oryx• 11 Sep 2008 01:00
Oryx

u just can't win... the Mexicans are offended by the term 'american' as they believe it refers to a continent and not one country....

So you couldn't say Americano...

there are worse words like Sepo or Gringo...

the word you use i guess depends who is standing next to you in the field....

Blimey i think i will just call them all Canadians... easier that way.

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 23:36
Scarlett

a Welsh farmer...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 23:33
britexpat

My American Red neck...

What do you call an Alabama farmer with a sheep under each arm?

,

,

,

,

,

,

A pimp.

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 23:31
Rating: 2/5
azilana7037

a "double" is/was used for a famous person's public appearance. But in this case (if there's any truth to it)...won't the people/audience know it's a double or not?

or else, they got a good make-up artist...lol

By Tigasin321• 10 Sep 2008 23:30
Rating: 2/5
Tigasin321

Nothing more Yankee than a boy born in NYC and raised in Connecticut. When I lived in the southern United States, I was always called a damned Yankee (and a lot worse) by my redneck friends. But I still love my rebel friends and they still tolerate me. It depends on the tone. You can be called a Yankee affectionately or derisively. I prefer to interpret it in an affectionate way and I refuse to be offended.

You can't stop me you Brits! You will never shut me up. Give it your best shot! Bring it on!

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 23:18
Scarlett

alexa is an honorary Texan, which makes her a southern lady which also makes her a Rebel...so Yank would be an insult to her as well..

Brit..just let it go...its just that with everyone else telling us Americans we are the root of all evil on here, we didn't need someone who is supposed to be our friend taking pot shots at us continually.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 23:15
britexpat

Point taken :o)

Anyway, getting back to the thread.. Heard one theory today that Kim Jung IL has been dead for a couple of years and they are using a "Body Double" for public appearances - which are very rare anyway..

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 23:15
britexpat

Point taken :o)

Anyway, getting back to the thread.. Heard one theory today that Kim Jung IL has been dead for a couple of years and they are using a "Body Double" for public appearances - which are very rare anyway..

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 23:09
azilana7037

I'm still gonna get VEGAS for calling me redneck...lol

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 23:09
britexpat

If you look up the meaning of "Yank".. It is a shortening of Yankee and is not really derogitory..

Having worked on a naval base with a lot of Americans, I am used to them having a go at the British and us at them and not taking offence.

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 23:05
Scarlett

my 86 year old mom has a license to carry a concealed handgun...now THAT'S scary...

and nope, you have to have the rifle rack...or at least a dead deer tied on the front hood of the car to make the requirements.

Thanks Alexa...you're right..it is..name calling isn't good from any standpoint.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 23:03
Scarlett

Normally it doesn't bother me as a general rule..but you seem to do it all the time lately which does get on my nerves..

I can take a joke with the best of them, and actually have quite a good sense of humor..but enough is enough...

Thank you tho for backing off a bit on the ribbing...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 23:01
azilana7037

would a handgun under the seat of my car would suffice?

;-P

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 22:59
britexpat

We can all take offence in just about anything that is said or written here..

It seems that some are able to have a banter and realise that its all in good nature, where as others can't..

Tig and Red Pope make regular comments about Brits and the Queen etc etc .. I don't take them personaly..

Anyway, from now on I shall keep from making such remarks which may be taken wrongly...

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 22:56
Scarlett

a rifle rack in the back window of your truck!!

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 22:55
Scarlett

I can have an Aussie call me a Yank and i think nothing of it....because we don't have the same history with them as we do with the British... check what AZI quoted with the

"The British liked Yankee, too, when they wanted a derisive epithet for the New England provincials. They set it to music in the song "Yankee Doodle," said to have been composed by a British army surgeon "in derision of the provincial troops."

THAT'S where it came from..not a term of endearment..but a slam to their former colonists.

But for whatever reason, seems a lot of Brits think they can make jokes that Americans are stupid, uncivilized, crude, whatever... and expect not to get an answer back because it was a "joke"...well, it gets pretty annoying very quickly.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 22:51
azilana7037

I'll have him tied to one of darude's camel :-P

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 22:49
Scarlett

Azi...it can mean someone who is just plain "country" or if used in a racial way, can mean someone who is narrowminded and stupid.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Harry99• 10 Sep 2008 22:45
Harry99

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By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 22:43
azilana7037

I don't know what "yankee" really means...

What about "rednecks"?

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 22:38
Scarlett

britexpat has continually posted antiAmerican comments and jokes since forever...

its gets reallyyyyyyyy old...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Scarlett• 10 Sep 2008 22:37
Scarlett

I have to say also that being called a Yank isn't a nice thing...Its a slam to us as Americans and the british know it, which is why we keep getting called that.

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By diamond• 10 Sep 2008 22:36
Rating: 4/5
diamond

Vegas, the best way not to see that word again is to switch off QL. Don't let yourself get upset.

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By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 22:28
azilana7037

i wonder what...or who?

Go to sleep, vegas, before Karin wakes up...lol

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:26
Vegas

Anyway...Have a good nite...

You can't teach experience...

By diamond• 10 Sep 2008 22:20
Rating: 2/5
diamond

Vegas, I'm sure no-one means to offend. Everyone likes you here on QL.

How's married life treating you?

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By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:20
Vegas

So they can bring it on...

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:18
Vegas

You can't teach experience...

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 22:13
azilana7037

You're spewing like a bonking bronco! :-/

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:12
Vegas

And its pissing me off...

And it gonna come to a head...

I have a temper...

I am not a freaking yank...

You can't teach experience...

By tallg• 10 Sep 2008 22:10
tallg

Sounds like you're yanking? I don't get it.

Anyways, too late to be worrying about it. See ya.

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:09
Vegas

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:08
Vegas

You freaking Brits can't handle your alk...

Geeze...And only wine tonight...

You can't teach experience...

By anonymous• 10 Sep 2008 22:06
anonymous

Qatar : Bahrain 1:0

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:05
Vegas

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:04
Vegas

Brits = Yank

A holes

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:03
Vegas

I know it ...

They know it...

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 22:00
Vegas

Fat out of shape beer belly A holes that think they know everything smelly brush your teeth once in a while goons...

Hmmm...Gonna have to think of a word that sums that all up...

Oh wait it already is...

"Brits"

You can't teach experience...

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 21:58
Rating: 5/5
azilana7037

Origin: 1765

From the beginning, Yankee has been a fighting word. We first come across it in the names of pirates: one Captain Yankey, also known as Yankey Duch (presumably meaning "Dutch"), mentioned in 1683 and 1684, and a Captain John Williams, known as Yankey or Yanky, in 1687 and 1688.

By 1765, it had been applied specifically to inhabitants of New England, and not as a compliment. A poem published that year called Oppression, a Poem by an American, has as its hero "a Portsmouth Yankey," with the note, "our hero being a New-Englander by birth, has a right to the epithet of Yankey; name of derision, I have been informed, given by the Southern people on the Continent, to those of New-England."

The British liked Yankee, too, when they wanted a derisive epithet for the New England provincials. They set it to music in the song "Yankee Doodle," said to have been composed by a British army surgeon "in derision of the provincial troops."

Then came the American Revolution, and the word as well as the world turned upside down. What had been an insult became a boast. Yankees used that name proudly for themselves as they fought the British, and "Yankee Doodle" became the marching song of the revolution.

But if Yankee was now a term of endearment, how could southerners express their derision toward the people of the North? Simple enough. Add a prefix, and you have fighting words once again: damned Yankee or plain damyankee. They appear as early as 1812, in this threat: "Take the middle of the road or I'll hew you down, you d'--d Yankee rascal."

Even in the twentieth century, when Yankees has often just seemed to signify the name of a baseball team, southerners still call northerners Yankees when they are annoyed with them. And during the World Wars, when we told our allies "the Yanks are coming," we meant fighting men.

Source: http://www.answers.com/topic/yankee

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 21:56
Vegas

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 21:56
Vegas

OK I will think up some term for Brit and MP...

No problem...

You can't teach experience...

By tallg• 10 Sep 2008 21:54
tallg

I'm intrigued. Why is Yank offensive?

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 21:53
azilana7037

been reading the whole thread...no offense to any Yanks...I mean Americans in general...

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 21:47
britexpat

Chill.. we often get called poms..

However, if you find it insulting then I will use "American" from now on....

By azilana7037• 10 Sep 2008 21:43
azilana7037

Didn't saw it coming....Vegas???

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 21:42
Vegas

as Brit...

I am not a "YANK"

You can't teach experience...

By Vegas• 10 Sep 2008 21:37
Vegas

I mean go Fluck yourself hard...

Sick of reading "YANK"

Yank your head out of the toilet...

Or whatever you got it stuck in...

I don't call you anything...

Got it...

You can't teach experience...

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 21:11
britexpat

Its like the Yank that went to watch "Richard eye-eye-eye" at the theatre..

By tallg• 10 Sep 2008 20:59
tallg

Seeing his name always remind me of when the newsreader on QBS Radio calls him King Jong the 2nd. hee hee.

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 19:56
britexpat

...Foolish man give wife grand piano, wise man give wife upright organ.

By Gypsy• 10 Sep 2008 19:46
Gypsy

Why does no one take me selirousry!

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 19:38
britexpat

Why you no rissen? Rife is good. Go eat some kimchee...

By anonymous• 10 Sep 2008 19:34
anonymous

guess, we'll have to bear with gypsy, brit.

By Gypsy• 10 Sep 2008 19:33
Gypsy

I'm so ronrey oh so ronrey....boo hoo hoo. :(

By Gypsy• 10 Sep 2008 19:32
Gypsy

Nah, there's not really anyone in the Middle East now that cuts the mustard. Kim Jong Il and Castro, those guys are legends!

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 19:32
Rating: 3/5
britexpat

There's always Than Shwe of Burma (Myanmar) and even old Gaddafi..

By anonymous• 10 Sep 2008 19:27
anonymous

Cool down gypsy. We still have the whole Middle East.

By Gypsy• 10 Sep 2008 19:25
Gypsy

NOOOOOO! Not Kim Jong Il!!! What's happening to the world! First Saddam is executed, then Castro steps down, If this keeps up who of the great dictators will be left?? We'll only of Mugabe and Chavez to make fun of!

By britexpat• 10 Sep 2008 19:15
britexpat

Reminds me of the old days of the USSR.. Leader was dead and the media would say that he's got flu..

By Oryx• 10 Sep 2008 18:40
Rating: 4/5
Oryx

i so want to visit north korea...nothing radical better change until i get there... ;)

at the moment i am watching u tube videos on Transnistria...

the North Korea of Europe...scary scary

By anonymous• 10 Sep 2008 18:12
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

His name is Kim Jong Ill, he will, dragonfly

By tallg• 10 Sep 2008 17:27
tallg

"conspiracy plot" - lol!

Aren't there also concerns about who will succeed him when he does go? i.e. no-one seems to know who it will be.

By dragonfly212• 10 Sep 2008 17:23
dragonfly212

i hope he stay ill. lol

Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand

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