God helps qatari

so lets respect each others and share our thoughts in a peaceful way

have a good day you all out there

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I think everyone here - regardless of culture, religion, etc., learned this lesson when they were young.

"If you can't say something nice about or to someone - don't say anything at all".

Agree to disagree, personal attacks are not necessary, belittling someone makes you look foolish, respect begets respect.

Unfortuantely there are those in the world that have to put others down to make themselves feel better. There are those who are bored and have to start conflict for their entertainment.

Inform others of your opionion don't try to force your opinion on them. You may end up changing someone's mind with the information that you offer.

Everyone in Doha has a unique opportunity. You have a chance to learn and experience other cultures, etc. I know my children, as well as myself, benefited from being expats. It has helped us grow as human beings.

Aisha, I hope you remain on this sight. I enjoy reading your posts and blogs. I am very anxious to get to Qatar because one of the first things I want to do is join your volunteer group.

All the best to all the QLers. 'Yall have a good evening.

Lisa

I used to worked for a multinational IT company back home. We used to have expat colleagues before the internet bubble burst. What I vividly remember was sometimes in our meetings there would be heated exchanges that most often lead to off-topic comments and nasty remarks. We locals would at times be shocked and scandalized by their heated exchanges. But you know after the meeting is over, they go out laughing and having dinner together as if nothing happened.

We locals always think that can never happen between us because we really tend to remember the personal remarks and nasty comments. But to them it was just part of the discussion.

So I think it is the same here. We should not take everything seriously and tend to become the disciplinary police or the sheriffs of QL and shoot down everyone who we think is not at par with our disciplinary pedestal.

Just another two cents worth.... (count it 4 cents because I gave 2 yesterday...lol)

I am so glad you interfered here. You are a man with the ability to put things on paper with unique technic. You are also someone who is respected by all here and hopefully your plea will be heart and adopted by all

My good friend, you mention:

"Swearing, insulting, cursing, mentioning people by their real names, calling them kids, looking for [what they think sometimes] others mistakes and creating new threads of that, or checking the thread not for the thread itself, but to follow particularly some people's comments and start attacking them ... I don't think that anyone would agree to that or find it acceptable."

This is exactly what I oppose. These phenomena have multiplied recently making a lot of people to question whether this is a place worth visiting regularly. This is the reason why Aisha felt she should put up this thread.

Did you see me ever to complaint about jokes, funny threats, or people nicely teasing each other? Never! I strongly believe in the freedom of speech and as Emil Zola said: I may disagree with what you say but I will always fight for your right to say it.

The question is where someone draws the line. I hope the collective wisdom of the vast majority of QL users will prevent those who often destroy the friendly atmosphere.

May the roof above us never fall in, and may the friends below never fall out!

sad to say i couldnt find any lately or maybe i wasn't just browsing thoroughly :)

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i could totally relate with what you are saying. Though "funny, clean jokes, humour, etc" are all relative words the definition/meaning defends on the person using them. My 2 cents are to stay away if i dont like the thread or post comment to say so or find threads that are my kind of tea.

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I did not want to participate here or on the other threads to be on no one side. I don't want to be with part of QL members or be against the rest. QL is a community, should be here a family and let's forget about Aflatoon's Holly City, it does not and would never exist ... It was so sad to see my dear friend here CYman upset and could not help it but to post something here [btw, who upsets you old man? hopefully not me :)]

How are you doing my friend and how is it going with your vacation there in Cyprus? Why you are so upset my dear friend? If this is the case while you are so far away, then what would happen when you come back here? :)

My friend you are right, some of the posts here can be so ignorance and considered as very bad comments. You can find this in most of the forums and QL is a forum, so it won't be an exception. No matter how do we try, there would be always some issues and problems that we won't be able to control sometimes and thank god that QL does not have that much like other forums. All thank to god most of the people here are well educated and aware of what is happening here, no need to go back to school or anything like that :)

You remember the problem that we got here when QP was opened? We could not control that because we could not ban those guys using their IPs because Q-Tel is like always giving everyone hard time because there is no concept of having a static IP. What happened in the end? They went away by their selfs and give up in the end, quit on posting useless comments and threads.

See I don't know how do people see it here, what some people see it unacceptable, the others have no problems with that. That does not mean that we can't both have a level to which we would both agree that it is not acceptable. Swearing, insulting, cursing, mentioning people by their real names, calling them kids, looking for [what they think sometimes] others mistakes and creating new threads of that, or checking the thread not for the thread itself, but to follow particularly some people's comments and start attacking them ... I don't think that anyone would agree to that or find it acceptable.

Sometimes the wise side of you would betray you and you would find yourself posting sometimes things that you would be really upset with it later, and that is why you can't attack others or list their problems because they misjudge the situation there.

I did not post here anything and in a lot of other threads because I don't want to be part of any of this. I can't post something and make the 10,000 members satisfied as well as I can't post something also and offend them. CYman ... I know that you are really upset my dear friend, but when I come across this thread .. it really hurts me because it was like: Everyone is required to post here to clarify their innocence of all the mentioned stuff here, who does not post should be one of those.

It hurts me more because some of the people did not intend to do that, some of them are really feeling bad about how do some people react to their posts. Some people would make sometimes a bug fuss out of nothing, simply ignoring some of the comments would work just fine. It won't work with the other posts and I'm sure of that as well. If everyone would open new threads to attack other people or list their mistakes ... then we are all doomed and this community lost its purpose and the message that we all are trying here to deliver won't exist.

So please ... in the love of god. Let's stop all of this .. I'm not going to list again everything, hopefully my message were clear and reached everyone. This is going to be my first and last post here on this thread, so please forgive me if I did not reply or say anything later ...

CYman, when will you come back man? We are missing you here so come before Mr.Paul leaves us all :)

:-D People like YOU are what make QL a good place for me..That's why I'm still in!

So you're western charmed ( like many others who agree with what is said) and you still think that their jokes are not funny! So it's not "all" a cultural thingy as some claims it is all about.. it's common sense for God's sake!

Bless your heart hun!!

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you sweet pea you!

i agree with you! im tired of the non stop swearing, general nastyness, unfunny sarcasm which seems to be happening on here lately! Its driving me crazy - i think everyone just likes to show how witty, intelligent,wonderful they are that they never let things drop and have to resort to silly things!

but ql does seem to go through phases like this i have noticed! just rise above it hun and remember that as long as you have a good mind and a good heart ( which you do ) nothing people can say will change that!!!

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love life!

yeah i will from now on... but its hard to ignore someone who post a whole forum topic on u and everyone else is comenting on it, i had to say somthing to him... but i agree with u nov thnx hun xx

Pls just ignore Sl. Anymore post from him that you think is an offensive to you, can you report it to Qatari? Qatari always take complain seriously.

Have a nice day.

I quit. but any unwanted post will be dealt with more severlly

sl, enough is enough plz get yourself busy else where.. this thread is serious..

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you both started again here.

how Many times do i need to repeat cant u listen just for once

I said Quit it.Ignore each other and Avoid.

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.... SamyaUK Has nothing to say.....

*looks around and decides not to get inbetween samya and sl cause there's just no use so she sits back and watches*

I never asked you to come to a hotel with me. I said WE are coming to your hotel for a mass drunken orgy if you have a nice bar in your brand new hotel.

why are u broadcasting that, making that the title of your post, so everyone comes running here oooh look samya apologised to sl... like im the bad one, i swore at u and apologised for that... u have always been rude and indecent towards me sl and i still dont like u, and i wouldnt meet up with u if u payed me... by me apologising wasnt saying u posting threads about me coming to a hotel with u is ok, it was just for the swearing ok...

"someone else found it offending and i dont like to offend people"

I admire your honesty, girl!

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SamayaUK apologized to me sending a PM instantly. This morning I sent a PM to her declaring CeaseFire Agreement and proposal for an allainace together and open invitation for our next QL get together. Still awaiting for your reply

please dont try and go on like your inocent, u started that thread to purposly wind me up, yes i swore at u in arabic calling u a pimp but i straight away aologised 2 u because someone else found it offending and i dont like to offend people... just admit it sl..

no it was YOUR comment to which another member responded by askig you not to do it so long.. you know your comment about wanting to 3$**&%$$^@!% that QL female member.

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as I expect them not to insult mine. I raised my boys to believe the same way and have respect for everyone regardless if they are different from us, in any way. That's the way the world is. Everyone has something to share and that's what makes the world such an wonderful place. There's so much to learn if you just open your mind. My favorite quote is "The mind is like a parachute, it only works when its open."

I agree with the issue of things becoming a free for all if some people are let loose...but for the most part..that's not going to happen. If you ignore those that have a small mind on here, they will stop because they aren't getting the attention they crave.

As I said...the power is at our fingertips...the ON/OFF button is always very close by...

I´m with Alexa, why are you guys taking it so seriously???This is a public forum, relax....Don´t read what you don´t like...it works for me.

Aisha, I realise "they" have been making fun of your comment. It just happens that they don´t have anything better to do. Let it be.

ITs not a question of putting gag orders or that sort of thing.

Its just a question of sensibilities. You tease anyone or make jokes

about anyone it does not matter but there has to be a red line somewhere. Else this will degenerate into a free for all.

DOnt insult anyones religion/beliefs. What one may hold sacred may not be

considered by others in the same manner.

feelings. I quite honestly am not trying to clean up QL because I fully believe in the freedom of speech. However..I also believe in the freedom to avoid that which offends me. I have the power to cut the power off to the computer or turn it on. Simple as that. I am in another country that has different religion than mine and in that respect, I will respect their religion and beliefs..however, I also expect them to respect mine. Goes BOTH ways.

I'm very new to this site and for the most part have enjoyed reading the posts. I don't care for the conflicts to be honest so I tend to avoid those posts. I love making jokes and teasing with everyone but never take my joking seriously for I would never offend someone intentionally. It does concern me that some people would try and put gag order others...just as it does me that some people would put down others due to their religious beliefs. again that goes both ways.

Respect goes both ways...so...let's all just be nice to each other and have a fun time.

Those deleted comments are not from me It is from her. She called me a Pimp in Arabic. This is for your information. You didn't see it and I have e-mail confirmation of Samaya's apology.

Thank you guys for your support to clean-up our QL!!

CYman, thanks dear.. BTW, the “Family site” expression was brought out here first by qatari himself.

Sl, actually you ARE breaking the common low.. I remember your deleted comment in paging SamyaUk .. That was bad dude.. not even close to be almost funny.

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See, PM, they are listening, and I am too!

They are validating and realizing it, that's why they, I am here!

Thank you!

Cheers,

I didn't mean to steal your Thunder, I just borrowed it!

well said, i agree with you.

but why can't everyone just agree to disagree on some things? Stop making religion and personal morals an issue on here. Life is what you make of it and we are all going to be different, even within our own religions. Family is family...mine is no different than yours. We all love our kids..and are trying to be kind to others. Don't impose your views and regulations on others, I don't care WHO you are. Its like discussing politics at a social event...its just NOT done. We can all learn from others(and their mistakes!) and the ones who don't, don't matter in the long run. There are some that posts things that irritate or offend me, but I choose to ignore that. Some people have a different opinion of what I think is funny..so what? If you don't like something...skip to the next topic. Its as easy as that...Let's all just get along. Life is too short to make things so personal that it upsets you and raises your blood pressure. Live life to the fullest but never at someone else's expense. Ok...now I'm off my soapbox...

I don't need anybody to preach me disciplin and how to behave as long as I am not breaking the common law.

just scroll on this threat and tell me me if you notice any of the regulars missing completely. It is not just strange my dear. They picture themselves as the ones accused by Aisha myself and all the rest who agree that we need some discipline here. I hope they will for once find the courage to speak up their arguments and substantiate their behavior so we can all find a common conduct on this forum. But whenever it comes to behavior matters they just vanish.

Come on now Cornelian. You seem like a clever girl :)

May the roof above us never fall in, and may the friends below never fall out!

Hi guys and girls!

All is not bad!

After reading most of the replies, I see a uniform common thread, that is being good others.

Having fun is no problem. But having fun at the expense of others is

the problem.

If somebody want to say some silly jokes..ofcourse it OK.

People who don't like it can just ignore and go on.

Popeye said about lowest common denominator..But deciding which is the lowest common denominator is the problem.

Big crowd comes with big responsibilities..(hi..hi..like spiderman!)

This is driving me nuts...WHO THE HELL ARE "THEY" ??? lol

They make fun of us in other threats, they dare not come here, the cowards. I noticed this earlier, when I posted against their insulting, chauvinistic, arrogant comments, NOBODY raised a voice against my challenge. They are just cowards who don't have a single argument to defend their catastrophic, selfish behavior.

I can live with them but I cannot but fight their indecent behavior always, no matter the consequences.

Don't you QLrs, question yourselves, why whenever there is a threat on discipline matters these same people are always absent, whereas at the same time they flood the forum with b****it on other threats?

Maybe the term 'family site' does not actually characterize what we have here but the term 'friendly site' should be adhered and respected by everyone.

May the roof above us never fall in, and may the friends below never fall out!

LOL so me and you are on the same boat!

I just LOVE being attacked and mocked by them for being right! In a way it feels better than being agreed with!! Somehow it assures you you’re doing the right thing.. It encourages you to keep going! Ironic..

As wise Xena once said: If me not being in your hate list means that I’m like you then shoot me now!! LOL

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I promise oyu I wll be in my worst DESTRUCTION MOOD from here onwards

I'm very well, thank you. And hope you're doing well too.

Me? naughty? Nope...I promise I'll be in my best behaviour from here on.

Last night debacle with AirSupply/AirSuplly was exhausting but it's just like that. Arguments can go nasty but it could end amicably. Emotions do get involved in discussions especially if it's something you believe, adhere and close to your heart.

Good morning to ALL!!!

I want create fun today also. Corne How should I START. Wait for a really good news little bit later.

salaam alaikum and good morning.

well it takes all kinds to make a community, so its simple, what we dont like, just ignore. if it attacks you or your sentiments, then fight back or report it as abuse, you have a right to voice your approval and dissapproval, else just stay out of nonsense, it wont hurt you then.

Aisha, there have been times earlier too when Ql was totally crazy, its a phase, we go off the orbit and then come back on track again, right now we are dancing all over the place.

Ql will be fine soon.

azzy and FF, dont get naughty with words now.

how you all doing?

happy heart

DRIVE SAFE,someone is waiting for you at home

QL'ers!

Cheers,

I didn't mean to steal your Thunder, I just borrowed it!

hey pretty girl,

Good Morning!!! those people who are upset,rude and inconsiderate they are your ANNOINTED TRIBULATORS....just ignore them

Thank you guys..

LOL now the people who are doing what we dislike are making fun of my “family friendly” statement in many posts of theirs! THAT is funny!

Sooo many people are upset and "they" just don’t see it. So rude, so inconsiderate.. MY GOD!!

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For what it's worth... surely there has to be some common decency in the way we interact with each other.

There is a 'lowest common denominator' below which we, as humans endowed with intellect, cannot and should not fall below. Sure, have a laugh, crack a few jokes - but freedom is easily abused when it crosses over into insults and abusive behaviour.

I can see, even with the short time i've been here, how things have deteriorated in this regard. Cornellian, surely, a real community would be goverened by some morals and standards by which we could ensure that the community remains vibrant and sustainable by not falling into a sense of lawlessness, etc.

If we are a 'family', then every family is governed by rules that would include common decency, etc.

So what rules of self-governence do we have? Maybe a different thread is needed.

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this topic. I agree that there are some posts and comments that to me are offensive based on the my culture and the way we were raised as children (like talking freely and openly about sex and other topics, in our culture we always use methapors). I even PMed once to Qatari regarding a thread that went really nasty with name calling and revealing of people's names.

Then I thought hey this is the internet and these are people with different opinions, way of thinking, inhibitions, culture and sensibilities. The reason the internet was created was to have a free exchange of ideas without government or religious censorship. So what maybe offensive to me (except matters of basic human decency and morality - like that rape comment) may be just ok to other cultures. So it's up for me to accept it or just ignore it. It is sometimes in these exchanges heated or not, nasty or comical, that we broaden our knowledge of other cultures and each others sensibilities. And with the experience we all grow. As the saying goes: whatever does not kill us only makes us stronger. Well, that's just my two cents worth.

The main thing is he/she listened! and how he/she will lives it, its up to him/her!

I listened too.

And yes, we can always IGNORE!

I know your cool, like MR FEENY in "Boy meets World!"

Cheers,

I didn't mean to steal your Thunder, I just borrowed it!

all of us here are strangers, we only met online. We people have different views in every topic posted here mainly because of customs and traditions, we agreed or not its up to us.

We can also choose which forum or topic we want to participate and put some views to it, that's freedom of choice.

As simple as this, if you don't like certain issues or comments ignore it and go to another forum. Don't make comments that would start up some heated arguments.

We are here to ease the dullness in Qatar, we need some spice so that we can go on and still enjoy our stay here.

Remember, there is black and white..sour and sweet...head and tail..evil and good...and SL & SPIDEY! j/k PAL

agree with CYman: impose self discipline. Mods and Qatari cannot watch each post made.

Good or bad, so be it.

Hijackers, banters, and members you think that make no sense here might be the ones who could really help other members in the end, in times of need.

, i'm good.

Annointed tribulators are given because they are useful in order for us to distinguish between good or bad

after reading all the posts, I'm wodnering if I'm one of the people u guys are talking about...did I say anything offensive? Hope not. *I have the memory of a fish sometimes!*

and blatantly passing the message to other threads ;-)

I agree with Majh, just pick up the good one out of those bad ones.

I like you PM, here in QL, stay being a good educator, you made someone listen and that's a good sign ;-) of being a good educator.

It is really a challenge to make a rebel child/student to listen! And I know you'd noticed QL have lot's of these kind of children/students including ME.

Thank you!

What QL makes good? It's not perfect!

Cheers,

I didn't mean to steal your Thunder, I just borrowed it!

I have been reading hundreds of threats on QL since last October. I started posting only recently. I cannot but agree with you that some people not only post for the sake of posting but use insulting language, hijack serious threats not caring about fellow QLrs who would like to have decent conversations and confrontations.

I guess there are people out there who have fun with stupidities which they call humor. There are are others that cannot express themselves without sarcasm. We simply have to live with them, but tolerance has it's limits. Twice I objected to bad language and insulting comments by two of the regular members who are present almost in every threat, and I found that a lot of people agreed with me.

Qatari cannot do much about it other than advise. It's the members who are suppose to impose a self discipline!

May the roof above us never fall in, and may the friends below never fall out!

we need to knock some sense into all of them *prepares all the pans and bats in the house*

common pretty girl that's part of the QL forum a little chat and jokes that makes QLers active and strong ....

cornellian> what shall we do now? no more chat, no more jokes, no more what what... aargh.. this is not happening.

Look what happened to Gypsy. She's very ill.

OMG not u too Azi....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! *bangs her head against the wall*

Don't say bad words...just kidding.

;-)

hi Aisha pretty girl,

i know u feel bad about what's happening to a friendly family site but let's just consider QL a family wherein members share thoughts and ideas...pick up the good out of it... you're smart fresh graduate from university if you need some of our help were here for you.... don't *sigh*

It is because of Qatar Point.

Yes there have been some bashing, "offensive" humor, etc but isn't that what happens when u throw 10,000 people from completely different backgrounds, races, cultures, etc together ?

Look on the bright side, we are a real community, we try to help eachother and we try to answer all the questions that are asked. Let's not forget the groups that are helping lives outside QL such as the animal and volunteer groups. Some of us find QL as a stress release from our hectic lives so we come here chat and have a few laughs.

There has been some tension on QL, but it happens, and it'll pass and then come back again. That's how life is. So just take it easy everyone, and keep smiling cause ur a part of this wacky community :-)

Too bad to read this!

We can't control everything (of course!)

I understand your point.

TIME change & PEOPLE change you have to accept this.

Just continue what's in your heart...GOD sees eveything hidden.

By the way, i've changed my mobile #.

Call u soon.

-lailing-

sorry for my long absence. but im pretty sure all of u are doing great to the site!

miss u ol!

recentyl we see so many ads and classifieds in the forum topics..any comments..?

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Agreed Aisha. Qatar Living is turning into a chat site.

But hey, I'm just uptight and don't want people to have fun. What can I say?

I really thought that this was how this forum is. Do you mean to say that there was a different side to the people on this forum, Aisha??

More and more people want to dominate in QL.

More hatred and making-fun-of-others being portraied rather than smart and polite conversation.

But Aisha, since now you've come back, let us hope things would change for better.

Cheers,

i think some of the issue is a misunderstanding of different senses of humour between cultures.

a lot of the stuff posted makes me really laugh - my manchester humour is very dry - and not always universally appreciated.

there is some great community stuff going on

we had a get together last night

we are helping the people kicked out of the flats

there are groups forming

i believe it is more community orientated than ever

I'm all with you in that.. I really really wish they find a forum whose admin welcomes their attitudes. It's just way out of line. It's not funny or entertaining any more.. for the majority I mean.

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and it's pathetic when even those users that are bringing the site down come onto a thread like this one and demean it with their sarcasm. While I totally believe in freedom of speech; all intelligent people know that with the freedom comes responsibility. Quite obviously some of the users on this forum are very irresponsible. We should encourage them to find a new forum to go to.....

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Novita.. yeaaaah Ameeen I miss the normal!!

Eco-Savvy, lol yup you’re right about the cleaning :-D

PM, I couldn’t agree more..

Mak1, BLESS YOUR HEART!!

Qatexpat, righttt.

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Sad, but true. But, as PM says, the forum is as good as its users. So, listen up guys !!! Qatari can only do so much. And he has his hands full with crazies who make a 100 posts which makes no sense and similar stuff.

When I see the present situation QL I want to dry,cry, cry and cry some more. I want to die crying about dirtying the pureity of QL.

In my short stay, I see more of bickering, arrogance and

chauvinistic attitude here.

More and more people are trying to dominate others.

Usage of language by few has hit rock bottom.

Of course, thankfully the majority members are sane.

We are not talking about them. But they can certainly help.

It doesn’t have to be like this. We have choice.

Some body said that change is constant. Correct.

But the Change has to be for better not worst.

We cannot be always correct and ideal. World was never perfect.

But the real fun is trying to be ideal. Is it not?

Aisha I have seen only the worst side of QL

Inshallah QL will shine.....we just have to do spring cleaning in summer

hehhe

QL is changing the same way Qatar is changing, it is moving away from being family oriented, conservative and safe country, and there is nothing anyone can do about it....the only constant is change

hi aisha ... qatari and his mods are working on it. Hopefully sooner or later the website will be back to normal :-)