Five-year-old schoolgirl dies in road acciden

nicaq25
By nicaq25

DOHA: In a heart-wrenching accident, a five-year-old girl , Dana Walid Sakr (pictured), studying in the Lebanese School in West Bay was knocked down by a four-wheeler in front of the school early in the afternoon on Sunday. The girl was rushed for emergency medical care but died on way to the hospital.

The girl was crossing the road and stopped midway on the road to pick something up when the four-wheeler suddenly appeared and knocked her down.

The mother of the victim, who was waiting on the other side of the road, watched in horror as she saw her daughter knocked down, an eye-witness said.

The four-wheeler, driven by an Arab national, was parked on the other side of the road in front of the school, so it had not picked speed yet, eye witnesses told The Peninsula yesterday.

The driver has been arrested. But the school management could not be contacted for comment as it was closed yesterday as a mark of respect for the deceased student.

A senior traffic official from the National Road Safety Campaign confirmed the tragic death of the student, while the school website carried a condolence too.

Traffic official Fahad Mubarak Al Abdullah told this newspaper: “It was the mistake of the driver as well as the parent of the child. Children should be dropped near the main entrance of a school and they should also be picked from there.”

If a child is crossing the road, the parent or someone older must catch his or her hand and guide. “A team of investigators visited the spot. It was a tragic incident,” he commented.

People should drive carefully near schools even if there are no speed breakers on the roads nearby, added Al Abdullah.

The death of the five-year-old has triggered serious concern among parents. Mothers who have children attending the Lebanese school voiced concern regarding the lack of safety outside the school premises after Dana was hit. The incident took place at around 1:45pm.

“Proper school zones should be implemented and action should be taken… I am worried about the safety of my children…,” said Carla Bay, a mother of two children who go to the school.

Bay said she had been worried about this for quite some time as she had noticed there were no speed humps along the United Nations Street, the road near the school; no cross walks for pedestrians; no speed limit signs and no volunteers to help pedestrians in crossing the road.

Another mother, whose children go to the school, said the roads near the Lebanese School - Qatar and the Qatar International School are always packed with vehicles when students get off school.

“It is a small two-way road and vehicles are parked on the sides, and people are always in a hurry to go home… the Traffic Department should see to this.”
http://www.pen.com.qa/penweb/epaper/20102009/20102009.pdf

By suzain• 19 Oct 2010 13:53
suzain

Oh God it's really very sad news.

By the_prince• 19 Oct 2010 13:39
the_prince

May her soul rest in peace, and my condolences her family.

By patriciaaj• 5 Nov 2009 12:56
patriciaaj

Thank you sooooo much for clarifying the accident circumstances to all these ignorant people. I know Walid, Mimo Chadi and Dana and I know that Walid and Mimo are extremely cautious parents, they love their kids and take extra care of them, they are exceptional parents and for all those who don't know them I say this is a family that had everything, a family that was perfect, their kids were ALWAYS priority, these parents that you are judging and hurting with your ugly comments are exceptional human being, human being that you don't get the chance to meet every day, people that you would fall in love with, they were a perfect loving family, they loved their kids sooooooooooo much and now they are heartbroken, they struggle each and every day to keep a smile on their face in front of their little child Chadi who witnessed the ugly death of his little sister, he cries and tells his mother that he doesn't want her to be an angel, he wants her to be with him, he still thinks that she is coming back even though they told him she’s not!! Mimo was not careless , she held Dana's hand very tight, she is not to be blamed, and those of you who know Mimo know very well that she is the mother that EVERY CHILD DREAMS OF, even my own son tells me that!

oh come on people, show some respect to this devastated family, your ugly comments hurt sooooooooooooo much! And if it made me cry, I can’t imagine the effect it will have on them.

Pls support them and pray for Dana's soul to rest in peace.

By Quagmire• 23 Oct 2009 20:26
Quagmire

Mandilulur,

Thanks for that, I stand corrected.

Funny though because I always see locals in Land Cruisers on their mobiles stopped on the front row of the roundabout and I have never once seen the police at the roundabout take any notice!!! Surely there isn't one rule for locals and another for everyone else?

Also, ever noticed.... Why do locals use the "hands free car mike wires" when walking about in the Souk - but in their Land Cruiser (when they need 2 hands most) they hold it in one hand?

Q

By Jo Naras• 23 Oct 2009 18:46
Jo Naras

This is a very expensive lessons learnt...beside discipline approach by polices and drivers...parents and school should conduct a safe traffic campaign and lesson in school every week to remind all students the dangers and risk in the street so they should be vigilant anytime they walk on the street or cross road...safety campaign and safety competition among the students....cheers

Safety is culture not skill

By Darly• 23 Oct 2009 18:09
Darly

I am sure all the facts will come out soon..

By britexpat• 23 Oct 2009 17:46
britexpat

It will be interesting to see what charges are made or what the punishment is ?

By Stone Cold• 23 Oct 2009 17:39
Stone Cold

Sorry to hear that and condolences. One thing for sure the road infront of a school is not for reckless driving. In support the authority ahould do something to change situation on the ground. If the driver is a local then he will walks away free.

By Mandilulur• 23 Oct 2009 17:38
Mandilulur

Quagmire, it certainly IS illegal to drive in Qatar while on a mobile phone. The fine is 500 QR.

Mandi

By Squarepeg• 23 Oct 2009 17:13
Squarepeg

Magic Dragon, OK, maybe it's easy to get a licence if you're a Qatari. I'm sure the principals would do a good job of running the schools if the owners would leave them alone to get on with it.

By anonymous• 23 Oct 2009 13:17
anonymous

Squarepeg, I worked in several schools. The licence was in the hands of the owners (Qataris), the school was run by idiots (the principals).

By Squarepeg• 23 Oct 2009 13:12
Squarepeg

1 "The point is that every idiot can open a school. " This is rubbish. You have to have a licence from the SEC to operate a school.

2 The accident happened outside the school, the child was the responsibility of the parent, not the school.

By mata hari• 23 Oct 2009 11:08
mata hari

..you use very "nice" words and curses as being a Teacher..far away from being ignorant of the situation related here, at least I hope you don't use this language in the class...

Again, all my simpathy to the family..Tears in Heaven!

By Quagmire• 23 Oct 2009 04:42
Quagmire

Condolances to the family.

If this is true:- (and I've heard from different sources that it is)

To have your child killed by a wreckless / careless driver whilst holding her hand crossing the road is utterly outrageous.

Hopefully the media will correct their "stories" and publish the facts. Why lie / cover up the truth?

Was the driver on the phone? Was he going too fast? Was he not paying attention?

DONT BLAME THE MUM - BLAME THE DRIVER - GOING TOO FAST - NOT LOOKING OUT - HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE A CHILD OUTSIDE A SCHOOL ?????????????

If so:-

This driver MUST BE PUNISHED. EVERYONE FEELS THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN QATAR. TOO MANY GET AWAY WITH MURDER. SOME NATIONALITIES NEVER GET THE BLAME WHEN IT IS THEIR FAULT. I DON'T CARE WHAT NATIONALITY THEY ARE. JUSTICE IS FOR ALL NOT JUST TO PROTECT YOURSELVES. I AM SICK AND OUTRAGED BY IT.

Please publicise the truth from the eye witnesses.

Also, whilst I'm at it - Can we please make it illegal to use a mobile telephone whilst driving in QATAR?

By arabic_nightingale• 22 Oct 2009 22:45
arabic_nightingale

How could the mother allow her child cross the road all by herself? :(

"I am not a native English speaker. So don't mock me for my grammar mistakes."

- anonymous

By louli• 22 Oct 2009 22:16
louli

you were there watching the mother if she is on the phone or noot?

or just you want to open your mouth only.I'm a teacher in the school and dana's mother pick her everyday from inside the class .you don't know her she is a great women and take care of her children.she was holding her daughter hand and she stopped the other car her daughter died while holding her mother hand.

please before you talk know the truth and pray for her mother to get the strength and live without her.so all i can do is send the family my deepest prayers and condol.And for evryone who's saying bad things or lies about the mother one day inshallah god will let him feel what dana's mother felt at this time.

By Ralliart23• 22 Oct 2009 17:56
Ralliart23

Accidents do happen...be responsible..

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By LeighLee• 22 Oct 2009 17:45
LeighLee

Will any mother let her child be killed? Come on people stop playing the blame game and show some sympathy I am sure the Mother of the Child, Everyone who saw it and the driver is all really sad and upset.

By Shebl• 22 Oct 2009 17:34
Shebl

I received your PM with thanks, and sincerely hope it would be actioned soon.

To all who posted here offensive comments against the mother, I hope you show some sort of respect and dignity and delete your comments.

It is deceiving to know how the news papers write without real investigation to guarantee genuine news to their readers instead of misleading them with gossips rather than news

By nicaq25• 22 Oct 2009 13:50
nicaq25

as per your comment, being the one who posted this article in QL quoted from the daily newspaper, it was not my intention to post the info wrongly nor by mistake. As in any other news that sometimes needs clarification, I think you may have to address that concern to the tabloid publisher. Here in QL, wherever I get the info, I cited the source in respect to the news/article I read.

I am deeply in sympathy with the parents because I'm a parent myself. We understand accidents do happen, and sometimes news such as this gave us a wake-up call. It is not my intention to hurt them but for general info because in the first place the news was made for public to read.

Again, the same explanation I sent to you via PM.

By Le Libano-Marseillais• 22 Oct 2009 13:13
Le Libano-Marseillais

Shebl, dont worry ... She is in Heaven with the angels .. and may god help her family go through this tough moments !

especially as a lebanese i am deeply touched! i cannot imagine what it would feel like .. so all i can do is send the family my deepest prayers and condolences !

what kills me is that the newspapers write whatever they want and no one can do anything about it !!

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

By Shebl• 22 Oct 2009 12:53
Shebl

Hearing wrong comments from ordinary people is one thing but hearing it from officials is a pity and a shame

By lwmarji• 22 Oct 2009 12:39
lwmarji

I totally agreed with Shebl

please remove the bad posts and comments

By Shebl• 22 Oct 2009 12:29
Shebl

To all the above users who are posting comments against the mother and the way the accident happened , you are all basing your comments on wrong article which was corrected the second daY IN THE SAME NEWS PAPER WHO PUBLISHED IT .

As a family to the child killed we would like to ask you to show some dignity and respect to the life of the child and the pain of her parents whom you are all causing more pain to them .

Kindly remove your comments or correct them based on the right facts ( The mother was holding her child hand in one hand while she was carrying another younger child in the other hand , she asked the driver to stop and so he did then , he barely gave the mother a chance to pass to re accelerate and hit the girl few cm away from he rmom whom watched her daughter getting killed infront of her eyes )

You have no idea about the pain you are causing by posting your comments , once again based on false information

As for some comments accusing the mother to be talking on the phone , SHAME ON YOU , and for the last time you are asked to remove the comments as we are intending to take legal action against any wrong information pulished in the media .

And the author of this article is responsible for publishing wrong information and she is asked to act responsibly and correct her information as i sent her in private message all my contacts in case she needs to repair the damages she has caused .

By lwmarji• 22 Oct 2009 12:08
lwmarji

when the priest was praying at your funeral , he asked God to grant you His blessings . you are blessed Dandoon . you were always blessed. you had your mother and father on earth and now you have the wide big spaced heaven and jesus , the place that suits your innocen

You'll be in our prayers... May God Bless Your Soul! Amen!

Rest In Peace little angelic Dana!

group name in facebook DANA WALID SAKR

By Shebl• 22 Oct 2009 11:50
Shebl

Hi i am a relative to DANA and it hurts us much to hear you posting comments based on wrong article written in the news paper .

Dana died few cm away from her mothers eyes as she was holding her hand while carrying another child in the other hand .

The mother asked the driver to stop and he did then he accelerated again .

Al Raya chief editor was contacted by us and the second day there was another article placed to correct the wrong information written in the article you are all basing your comments upon .

Kindly show some respect and dignity and remove your hurting comments which only makes her mother's wound deeper.

By teepatter• 22 Oct 2009 09:07
teepatter

thinks of you BIG when you're speeding!

By Le Libano-Marseillais• 22 Oct 2009 08:58
Le Libano-Marseillais

The driver of the car WAS NOT ASIAN !!!!! all the people of the Lebanese school who witnessed the accident could testify ! it was a Qatari kid of 17 years of age with no licence !! his driver (asian) was next to him !!!!!!!

ALSO the child was held by hand !!!! the driver did not see the child (since she is short) but all those who say that the child was left to cross alone is NOT TRUE !!!

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

By Amoud• 22 Oct 2009 08:57
Amoud

In light of things I think it is just as tragic that the family, mostly the mother of this little girl has to read stuff like this everywhere she goes while the wound is still fresh.

Most of what has been said and reported is inaccurate and everyone is pretty quick to jump on the judgemental bandwagon when in fact unless you were there you dont really know what happened.

None of it will bring her back, none of it will alleviate the pain of the family nor will it justify in any way this little angels death. God bless them all.

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By king_qatar• 22 Oct 2009 08:44
king_qatar

i read in an arabic forum, that the driver is 17 years old Asian, have no driving license of course and he was learning to drive ,,

why would he be allowed to learn driving in land cruiser,, take him to driving school at least,, i think his sponsor should be blamed for that, but seriously what happens in these schools? everybody passes ,, you see them outhere all the time

By corcaoich• 21 Oct 2009 19:27
corcaoich

Makes me want to scream when people assign blame to others!

"Fahad Mubarak Al Abdullah told this newspaper: “It was the mistake of the driver as well as the parent of the child. Children should be dropped near the main entrance of a school and they should also be picked from there.”

Accidents happen, blame is not always applicable to others, first report said the child stopped to pick up something and if so the driver would not see that especially if he was looking in his mirror to make sure he could move forward safely.

For GODS sake stop assigning blame to people who left home that morning with no intent to cause harm to anyone!

If someone is negligent and uncaring punish them, but don't look for scapegoats when the siting of schools in inappropriate areas without adequate traffic allowances result in these tragedies.

The other posts here seem to show that the mother was holding her childs hand. I feel so sorry that a little charity and understanding was not shown in other posts. Every parent knows that there but for the grace of God go I!

By britexpat• 21 Oct 2009 19:10
britexpat

Excellent and poignant..

Thanks..

By Xena• 21 Oct 2009 19:06
Xena

they lost there 10 year old daughter recently due to doctors negligence and are obviously devastated. I tried to tell them something similar, but that poem says it all.

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By verisimilitude• 21 Oct 2009 18:58
verisimilitude

that poem was wonderful...

By anonymous• 21 Oct 2009 18:55
anonymous

Its Absolutely the carelessness of the parents the parents are the one to be blamed for letting a five year old child cross the road .....

By pedroh• 21 Oct 2009 14:21
pedroh

i know the family personally...

my condolences to the family and may GOD ease their pain for the lost they suffered.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=pedhonrade&view=videos

By anonymous• 21 Oct 2009 13:46
anonymous

Ummjake that poem is just beautiful. It has reduced me to tears.

By GodFather.• 21 Oct 2009 08:19
GodFather.

So Sad and tragic.. Police and authorities should enforce and implement no parking Areas, more speed humps and even Lolipop ladies/Men near school The list goes on and on what one can do.

But for the family of this little girl it is all too late..

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"HE WHO DARES WINS"

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By phoenix2009• 21 Oct 2009 07:58
phoenix2009

reacting

never pro acting

Yalla!

By edifis• 21 Oct 2009 00:25
edifis

Such tragedies are impossible to overcome. The parents will have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

By edifis• 21 Oct 2009 00:18
edifis

Sad.. Really so sad! When I hear about such incidents..oh how I wish I could rewind back in time and prevent it. But this is real world and it makes me so sad!

My condolences to the family.

By wacky_baby• 20 Oct 2009 23:42
wacky_baby

it breaks my heart reading this sad news...please people don't try to put fingers on who to blame. it's a tragedy in itself and the family is already devastated. i hope everyone will act on how to avoid this and to not let it happen again. the poor baby... :'( i pray for her and her family that they may overcome this. so heart wrenching... my deepest condolences

By Lion_King• 20 Oct 2009 23:35
Lion_King

I have a few things in my mind which I would like to share with you all...These are general comments and do not apply to any school in particular...

1. Traffic restrictions in and around the school premises.

2. Identifying "green zone" with protective stop barriers along the periphery.

3. Designated drop & pick up area for pupils.

4. Designated parking areas away from the identified drop and pick up point.

5. Providing appropriate signage, including pedestrian crossing if any / speed breakers wherever applicable.

6. Security surveillance during working hours.

By PaulCowan• 20 Oct 2009 23:04
PaulCowan

I've heard that because of this accident a very senior Qatari is asking the authorities to introduce additional safety measures near schools. Perhaps something positive will come from this tragedy.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 22:06
anonymous

So Sad!

By yousri• 20 Oct 2009 22:02
yousri

Oh Allah.. :(

"Think 100 times before you take a decision, But once that decision is taken, stand by it as one man" - Muhammad Ali Jinnah

By yaraaoude• 20 Oct 2009 21:56
yaraaoude

It is a tragic accident that have touched all parents in this school. I'm one of these parents.

we do not criticize anyone, or blame anyone..

Like many said, anything can happen... It's God's will.

I'm sure that the little girl has found her place in heaven.

I'm really worried about her parents, especially the mom and the brother, who saw the accident.

I'm praying for them to try and get over it go forward in their lives... not forgetting that they have another child that is mourning also...

I pray for them...

God bless you all,your families and kids.

By ummjake• 20 Oct 2009 21:28
ummjake

several other people I have known who have lost a child. Whenever I hear of someone in the same situation, it makes me think of it again. I tear up just reading it...

A Child Of Mine by Edgar Albert Guest, 1930

I will lend you, for a little time,

A child of mine, He said.

For you to love the while she lives,

And mourn for when she's dead.

It may be six or seven years,

Or twenty-two or three.

But will you, till I call her back,

Take care of her for Me?

She'll bring her charms to gladden you,

And should her stay be brief.

You'll have her lovely memories,

As solace for your grief.

I cannot promise she will stay,

Since all from earth return.

But there are lessons taught down there,

I want this child to learn.

I've looked the wide world over,

In search for teachers true.

And from the throngs that crowd life's lanes,

I have selected you.

Now will you give her all your love,

Nor think the labour vain.

Nor hate me when I come

To take her home again?

I fancied that I heard them say,

'Dear Lord, Thy will be done!'

For all the joys Thy child shall bring,

The risk of grief we'll run.

We'll shelter her with tenderness,

We'll love her while we may,

And for the happiness we've known,

Forever grateful stay.

But should the angels call for her,

Much sooner than we've planned.

We'll brave the bitter grief that comes,

And try to understand.

"Marriage is a wonderful institution...but who wants to live in an institution?" -- Groucho Marx

By Ice Maiden• 20 Oct 2009 19:07
Ice Maiden

Does it matter how much "compensation" or "blood money" they will get.

Five years of bringing up a child, 5 years of struggle, and pain & heartache...all wiped away in an instant. That too in front of a mother's own eyes.

Many atimes throughout her whole life this mother will look back on this day, analysing.., wishing.. there was someway, anything she could have done to protect her child. It's a burden that will be hard to carry.

And I only pray that God gives her the strength to move forward with her life.

By ajnabi0707• 20 Oct 2009 18:24
ajnabi0707

sad & my condolence 2 Parents...

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"(A man is great by deeds, not by birth.)"

By drsam• 20 Oct 2009 16:58
drsam

the link u provided, namely the arab newspaper is saying article 312

injury: 1.000 QR fine or no more than 6 month of jail

permanent damage: 5000, 12 months

death: 200.000 and 2 months if the parents of the victim were to forgive him.

her parents will forgive him. that, i am sure of.

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.

By dottymum• 20 Oct 2009 16:37
dottymum

Many people that have young children of around the age of 5 know how easily they can slip out of the grasp of your hand. She was doing her best to get her children safely to her car.

How dare people even try and point the finger of blame at this poor mother.

All schools in Doha are a nightmare at home time. There are usually too many schools situated in the same area with inadquate parking.

In Abu Hamour there are 4 schools right next to each other (Al Jazeera Academy, Pakistani school, Iranian school and Park House) with barely any parking facilities. You see parents trying to navigate through the cars, whilst holding hands and bags. My son (age 6) has before managed to escape and run off after his friends.

The Government must hold some responsibility over this tragic accident. Schools must have staggered finishing times to cut down on the amount of traffic outside the school vacinity. Before a school even opens there should be speed bumps, parking and people there to direct the cars and guide the children.

May this poor mother be left alone to grieve.

NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BLAME THIS MOTHER.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 16:11
anonymous

they get out of school. It is a madhouse and this incident is not surprising, although tragic. I am surprised the mother allowed a 5 year old to cross the street without holding an adult's hand but feel sorry for the burden she will carry now. God bess them.

One of the key problems with the lack of proper zoning is that critical institutions like schools get placed in locations that are not suitable to handle the increased flow of traffic with proper safety measures. It still surprises me that there are no strict laws regarding school safety zones and NO CROSSING GUARDS!!!! WTH?

 

 

 

I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM

By Lion_King• 20 Oct 2009 15:58
Lion_King

Yet another tragic accident on roads of Doha....Many parents believe that transporting children through school buses is not safe enough, so they take them to and fro to schools in their own cars.... But when death comes in the form of Land Cruisers on Doha streets, even the safeguards that parents bear in thier minds can not help. The driving attitude of the people MUST change.... As long as it remians unchanged these kind of accidents will occur....

I heard different version of this accident. I don't understand why news papers are distorting the facts to make the news sensational. The parents are really grief-sticken.... May God give strength to them to face the reality and move on... May the little soul R.I.P and she will be in our memories like a shining star.....

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 15:27
Loulsy

I was just reading Al Arab newspaper.. where it is recounted from the words of an eye witness there who also happens to be a family friend.. the link is in arabic if it interestes anyone.. i know know of a similar link to the same newspaper in englihs.. sorry

http://www.alarab.com.qa/details.php?docId=102200&issueNo=669&secId=16

WYSIWYG

By Naseebfinder• 20 Oct 2009 15:23
Naseebfinder

my condolences to the family........

By Friendd88• 20 Oct 2009 14:28
Friendd88

i defenetly blame trafic department for this....as because i can see many unusefull trafic law by trafic department why dont they order the school to have specific parking and pick and drop spot? i see many schools and malls but no parking space for them....then where should they park the cars??

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 14:11
anonymous

In the UK we have what is known as lollipop ladies that stand outside the school and stop the traffic to help the children and parents across the road safely. I guess in hine sight this could be considered.

By novita77• 20 Oct 2009 13:53
novita77

my condolences to the family ....

By dugong• 20 Oct 2009 13:30
dugong

We hope we learned from this.

*To implement a Qatar wide speed limit to all school zones.

*School Guards should serve as traffic aides when Students/ Parents are in and out of the school. A must.

*Severe punishment to all violators for the speed limit at School Zones.

Condolonces for the family and may the good Lord bring eternal repose of one of His angels.

Peace to you all.

"Work with dignity. Love with honesty. Live holy."

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 13:05
anonymous

Truth always Satisfies you.

By ummjake• 20 Oct 2009 12:23
ummjake

'Traffic official Fahad Mubarak Al Abdullah told this newspaper: “It was the mistake of the driver as well as the parent of the child. Children should be dropped near the main entrance of a school and they should also be picked from there.” '(from today's Peninsula article on this topic).

A bit later, you read this: "A team of investigators visited the spot. It was a tragic incident,” he commented.

So which is it? Is it the driver's and the parent's fault or is it a tragic accident, Mr. Al Abdullah?

I'm sorry, but who the hell elected this guy to draw blanket conclusions and start mouthing off to the press about it? I doubt they have filed charges against the mother (or even that they can) -- so until that happens, he has no business making any kind of official statements about the situation to anyone.

If that happened in the States, he would be sued for slander, and the newspaper would be sued for libel.

"Marriage is a wonderful institution...but who wants to live in an institution?" -- Groucho Marx

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 12:14
Loulsy

Anyways.. Condolences to the Family

it is true.. several stories have come out.. the News needs to clarify facts before it publishes.. in Yesterday's Al Raya.. they wrote that it was an Asian driver.. today the news is different..

But all this talk does not make the situation easier on the family.. especially on the mother & Brother and other kids who were there and happened to Witness this Horrible and Tragic accident..

May God Give them the strength to see this through and may her soul rest in peace

WYSIWYG

By phoenix2009• 20 Oct 2009 12:11
phoenix2009

MD would you please take your staff and start a new thread if you still like to continue this b** sh**.

just leave this thread for people to express their condolences and support to the family.

Yalla!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 12:08
anonymous

I did not judge Lebanese especially, Loulsy, I said in the "Middle East". The Middle East is a bit bigger than Lebanon. And I am certainly not judging you.

By svelte_saggi• 20 Oct 2009 12:02
svelte_saggi

five years is too young an age to die....feel really sorry for the little one.may God give strength to her family to bear her loss..... :'(

Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor

By Ice Maiden• 20 Oct 2009 12:02
Ice Maiden

Newpapers should gets their facts right before they publish false news.

The mother is already in agony and then to torment her further by accusing her of carelessness.

The general public are to be provided with the news not sensationalism.

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 12:01
Loulsy

Do not Generalize, and do not Stereotype..

Once again you seem to be talking on experience with a few Arabs that you have been in contact with, but not Lebanese..

As a lebanese i still will say, that your perception is not correct in regards to us..

WYSIWYG

By Ice Maiden• 20 Oct 2009 11:59
Ice Maiden

Bibo & Formatted Soul are right

The mother is a very cautious mother. And she WAS NOT talking on the mobile. She was RIGHT beside the child while crossing the road. But...

Let's pray for the child' family, especially for the mother. It's not easy seeing your own child die before your eyes. Pray that she gets the strength to overcome this loss.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 11:57
anonymous

My experience is a bit different. They do "everything" for the children in terms of buying stuff and chocolade. When it comes to the "real" stuff, like being there for the children, teaching them, having time for them, ... they fail miserably. Just look at the many nannies they employ here. Why would they have a nanny bring up their children if they'd love them so much?

By rehanbutt• 20 Oct 2009 11:55
rehanbutt

It is a sad tale condolence to the mother and may the little girl rest in peace

By drsam• 20 Oct 2009 11:50
drsam

sorry for the loss. condoleances to the family.

an investigation has been opened and should show the truth, the faltives, and the things to do to prevent futur similar losses.

ummjake's comment is great.

Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 11:43
Loulsy

Perfectly Said.. True..

WYSIWYG

By britexpat• 20 Oct 2009 11:42
britexpat

I must disagree.

Children are number 1 in all societies.

The difference is that in the USA and other developed nations, rules / guidelines are put in place for the protection of these children. In the majority these rules/guidelines are obeyed and enforced by legislation and the powers that be.

The difference here is that they are not implemented nor enforced. In addition, morons think it beneath them to follow/adhere to these guidelines/rules.

Example: How many times have you pressed the button at a pedestrian crossing, waited for the lights to change to red, waited for teh green person to start flashing and then realised that a moronic driver (Qatari and Non Qatari) has refused to stop.

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 11:39
Loulsy

Magic Dragon,

I tend to Differ... and another Point.. This is a lebanese school and i am safe to assume that the Majority of the Attendee are LEBANESE.. Our Children HAVE a Lobby.. Our Children.. Are Number 1...

FAmily is the Essence for our Existence in our little country...

Just bcz a school lacked the common sense to create safety zones for its students doesnt mean that the Lebanese ppl themselves do not Prioritize their Childrean...

WYSIWYG

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 11:37
Loulsy

u summed it all perfectly!!! Great way to say it..

I have to say i totally agree with you

WYSIWYG

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 11:35
anonymous

Loulsy, Americans have a totally different conception towards their children. They are "number 1". Anybody injuring a child in America faces tough punishment. In the Middle East the attitude is somewhat different, as you know. Children here have no lobby!!

By labda06• 20 Oct 2009 11:34
labda06

:( poor baby

--------Do I look like Bambi's sister???-------

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 11:33
Loulsy

I believe the parking space is part of the school premises!

WYSIWYG

By ossy• 20 Oct 2009 11:32
ossy

schools here should have lollipop ladies, like in the UK.

that would certainly help.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 11:29
anonymous

Prayers go to the parents and the brother. Regardless off who thinks who should be blamed no parent or sibling should have to deal with this heartbreaking situation. God Bless.

By Loulsy• 20 Oct 2009 11:29
Loulsy

The School definitly should make better arrangments.. making sure to keep a good amount of space btw parking and the school entrance..

ASD .. has a whole sand area where ppl park.. and yet u got the security not allowing a car to pull out or drive or anything if there is one kid crossing.. even if it is one of the "big Kids" ...

Elementary entrance is in another area.. where you are unable to park anywhere near the entrance and parents are forced to walk to the gate to get their kids..

its all a simple issue of organization... parking on the sidewalk? WTH? its a SCHOOL for god's sake..

WYSIWYG

By HYK-043• 20 Oct 2009 11:19
HYK-043

very tragic.. condolence to the family..

By mata hari• 20 Oct 2009 11:15
mata hari

going and coming from QIS with my kid...Mostly the drivers are attentive and they slow down. Really,hard to understand what that driver was thinking at and tragedy happened!

True also that the security guys from Lebanese School are mostly acting like Traffic policemen cause of kinda U-turn exactly there (the cars from inside the school's court have to turn while going out) so hardly he can manage with pedestrians..Otherwise that small HELL intersection will be all the time blocked at rush-hours...Smthg have to be done on this matter!

Saw that at QIS the security guys have whistles and they can handle better the traffic situation...

Hard to find my words for the family loss..tears in heaven!

By PaulCowan• 20 Oct 2009 11:08
PaulCowan

Can you actually see a five-year-old who is crossing the road right in front of a Land Cruiser, or is the bonnet in the way? I don't know, I don't use one.

I can't understand why the school is being blamed, since it had released the children to the parents and the accident did not happen on its premises.

It is a very sad thing. The grief is unimaginable.

By ummjake• 20 Oct 2009 10:44
ummjake

had moments like that -- when we have held their hands, or been watching them -- and something STILL manages to go wrong. Nothing is failsafe, people. Stop blaming the mother here.

If she had been sitting in her car honking her horn for the 5 year old, that would be one thing. But she wasn't. She had personally collected both her kids and was walking them both across the street when this occurred.

The driver should bear the lion's share of the responsibility because people should always be extra extra EXTRA careful when in a school zone where little kids are around. They're short and tiny and often you miss seeing them in your mirrors. I am sure the driver is heartbroken about what happened.

I would also say that the school NEEDS to employ extra measures (which of course they will now be compelled to do after this incident). Having crossing guards as extra look-outs is a must. Either hire some or have your teachers/parent volunteers take this duty on at arrival and dismissal times. For crying out loud people, Qatar has the highest per capita accident rate of any country in the world. If you're a SCHOOL, you're entrusted with the care and welfare of little ones. Take it seriously!

The government should also take some of the heat. Do all primary schools in Doha have speedbumps around their entrance and exit roads? If not, they should. Is there proper signage? Are the penalties for breaking road rules in a school zone (when school is in session) more severe? They should be.

It's an awful thing to have happened. But let's be honest: it could have happened to any of us. Poor safety conditions coupled with a moment of inattention by a distracted driver led to this horrendous accident. Inshallah we will learn to improve conditions and safeguards so this is less likely to happen again to someone else.

"Marriage is a wonderful institution...but who wants to live in an institution?" -- Groucho Marx

By mical• 20 Oct 2009 10:37
mical

OMG...my condolences to the family...it must be an eye opener to every parents....

" Tomorrow is not just another day, it's another chance..."

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 10:26
anonymous

Exactly @ Tess

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By phoenix2009• 20 Oct 2009 10:18
phoenix2009

Bibo, if you know them personally, please tell them that we all share their grieves and hope they'll recover soon.

it's the saddest news i ever heard in Qatar.

Yalla!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 10:18
anonymous

As wat I said,,, there should be a safe place to drop off n pick up d kids, for their own safety,,

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By me and you• 20 Oct 2009 10:17
me and you

How is it the fault of the mum if she stopped a car in order to get all of the chidren she was looking after across the road safely?

The driver should be more aware of where he was driving and actually look where he is going! I have seen many locals driving like a bat out of hell at my sons school- DESS, and it really angers me to think they do not give a sh*t about children trying to get to and from the car safely!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 10:13
anonymous

I can't imagine,,, how I will react if dat thing happen with my family..

Hope her mom will be alright soon. Prayers needed...

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By rheeza• 20 Oct 2009 10:12
rheeza

it's the fault of her mother. and the F**k Driver hope he gets his price.

By bibo• 20 Oct 2009 10:09
bibo

your version is true...

"It was said that the mother stopped the car with her hand and was holding the childs hand..the lady crossed and the child was one step behind the mother and the man took the car.. which run over the girls face and one shoulder...cant imagine it happening in front of the mother's eyes.."

I know the parents personally...

They are VERY caring parents, very cautious and if it happened to them, it means it can happen to anyone else.

The mother was not waiting in an air conditioned car, she was holding the hand of 2 other kids, crossing the street with them, she made sure to stop the car with a sign of her hand, securing the way to the kids, while Dana was only a step behind.

May God give comfort to the poor mother and to Dana's brother who witnessed the accident, they are all devastated and the least they need is to be blamed for her death.

By phoenix2009• 20 Oct 2009 10:07
phoenix2009

well said sir dolly.

and yes he would be looking other way when driving, some STUPID MALES drive near the school at the leaving time just to peek on the ladies not because they're picking up their children.

Arabic newspapers said that it was ASIAN driver!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF

Yalla!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 10:00
anonymous

It's not time to blame anybody now, It's God's will,,,

Juz a prayer will be helpful for their loss than a debate,,, in here!

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By Hu Wan• 20 Oct 2009 09:55
Hu Wan

but blaming the parent is like blaming a rape victim for her predicament. It's a school zone for Pete's sake!!! You're supposed to be freakingly very very very careful in these areas. There is not an iota of justification for this very unfortunate accident, but totally the driver's responsibility alone! He should be locked up in jail and throw the keys into the sea!!

I have never seen such rampant road discourtesy than here in the MidEast!

My heart goes out for the parents on their irreplaceable loss...May God give them strength.

By roshu• 20 Oct 2009 09:39
roshu

I wonder how the mother let the 5yr old kid to cross the road alone.I'm not blaming the mother, she only knows the pain in her heart. Afterall the death has already written by God, noone can stop it.

May Allah give strength to the parents to bear their pain.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 09:33
anonymous

Its Fate!!!!

By nicaq25• 20 Oct 2009 09:31
nicaq25

sir dolly, that sounds more awful than the two newspapers!

So did anybody here witnessed the incident personally?

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:31
mjamille28

why is it "normal" that you look somewhere else when you are driving? i thought they where just supposed to look where they're going...

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 09:28
anonymous

the mother was waiting her daughter on the main gate , she held her hand and they went crossing the road , then the "arab" who's driving a land cruiser was passing by , and he was looking somewhere else "which is normal cause he's near the lebanese school" so he hit the poor little girl , and when people began shouting and screaming , he hit the breaks and he put reverse and he drove the land cruiser back at her body....IT WAS NOT THE POOR MOTHER'S MISTAKE , AND YOU SHOULD BE SLAPPED ON YOUR FACE AND ALL OF YOU WHO ARE SAYING THAT THE MOTHERS SHOULD MOVE HER ASS!!!!!

************************************

One summer night, going to the pier,

I ran into two young girls.

The blonde was called Freedom,

The dark one, Enterprise.

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:22
mjamille28

2 papers, 2 different angles, they need to set the records straight.. as far as safety measures are concerned, school admins should exhaust all necessary means and take this matter seriously..

By dugong• 20 Oct 2009 09:20
dugong

slammed in the face just to learn from our mistakes.

"Work with dignity. Love with honesty. Live holy."

By phoenix2009• 20 Oct 2009 09:17
phoenix2009

Guys I think the story is not so accurate, there has been lot of talking in all newspapers about this and each one described it in different way

I heard from a friend of the mourned family that the mother was holding hand of her child when she(the little girl) saw a friend of hers on the other side of the road and the little girl somehow managed to let go her mother and ran to the other side to meet her friend.

her elder brother was also near the car and saw the accident.

It's a huge tragic happening that NO one can hold.

I cried when I saw the picture of the little girl with her classmates.

My deepest condolences to her family.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 09:15
anonymous

Juz plz,,, make sure kids, is in safe, they r juz a kid,,,they doesn't know,,, what is really going on, outside their school n home..

Parents should be alwayz their guide,,,

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:13
mjamille28

now it gets more confusing....

By Formatted Soul• 20 Oct 2009 09:12
Formatted Soul

It was said that the mother stopped the car with her hand and was holding the childs hand..the lady crossed and the child was one step behind the mother and the man took the car.. which run over the girls face and one shoulder...cant imagine it happening in front of the mother's eyes..

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:10
mjamille28

the driver, the parent, and the school should all be accountable...

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 09:09
anonymous

many good points, but let's go: first, if you read this, I really sorry about your loss, mam and dad, God give you strength to stand this unbearable pain; no one to be blamed, too late; I have myself an big SUV, but main reason I bought it was to protect my family from this traffic, no matter if you drive a bicycle or a truck, being responsible comes from within; my kids are in their second school in Doha, ALL schools face the same problems. PLEASE people, let's do our part: obbey the rules and open your mouth and fight every time you see someone not doing the same. I know sometimes is tiring, but we cannot give up, only relying on each others help we can have hope. God bless you all.

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:09
mjamille28

that is odd.. if the mother was beside her daughter, "holding her hand", wouldn't the mother be hit by the LC as well, if that was the case?? talk about some serious misinformation... where did these two papers get their info... :/

By britexpat• 20 Oct 2009 09:08
britexpat

Two differing accounts... The truth is probably in the middle :O(

By dugong• 20 Oct 2009 09:08
dugong

the one fully responsible for the accident, parents should be held liable too in securing their children's safety first before anything else.

When I am visiting malls here, I often see parents not minding about their children freely playing and humping around until they get lost. The children ended up crying looking for their parents. Whew!!!

"Work with dignity. Love with honesty. Live holy."

By rizalazhar• 20 Oct 2009 09:04
rizalazhar

This is what Gulf Times paper said.

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An eyewitness said the girl was crossing the busy United Nations Street where the school is located along with her mother at the end of the school day when the accident occurred.

“The mother, who was holding the child’s hand, was speaking on her mobile when a Land Cruiser ran over the girl,” the source said.

The street is generally busy as two more schools are situated in the same locality.

“A lot of blood was coming out of Dana’s ears after the car hit her,” the witness told Gulf Times.

“The mother was devastated. The motorist was an Arab in his early 20’s,” he said.

According to another source, the motorist probably did not see the child as she was walking just behind her mother as they crossed the street. The motorist has been arrested.

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2 newspaper company, producing different news.

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"An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind." - Mahatma Gandhi

By Formatted Soul• 20 Oct 2009 09:03
Formatted Soul

It’s really tragic..

I really wonder until when the authorities will wait till they build over bridges or designated pedestrian crossing with signals....they spend millions on beautification... the life of the common residents are not much of their concern. How many people are dying every yr while crossing roads...

Poor child...may God give her family the strengh to live...

I guess the child lives in the same compound of a QL member...maybe he knows more about this...

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 09:02
mjamille28

i thought it was a standard regulation for every school not to let a child outside the gates on their own.. hmm apparently not..

"the school management could not be contacted for comment as it was closed yesterday as a mark of respect for the deceased student." -- yeah right, and of course was closed for a day due to embarassment...

By britexpat• 20 Oct 2009 08:56
britexpat

Well said..

By fil_qatar• 20 Oct 2009 08:56
fil_qatar

you know my dear its not about the salary or something its about the carelessness of the securities of the school...i personally take or bring my kids to school, but they dont let any kids go out without the parent or maids guardian with them...

By -macy-• 20 Oct 2009 08:55
-macy-

good job nicaq25. :)

parents should always make sure that their kids are always safe.

By nicaq25• 20 Oct 2009 08:55
nicaq25

one should be responsible for her/his kids. I'm not criticizing any parents here (in reading) & my sympathy to the parents who'd lost their child because of this tragedy but for those who have kids (still in school) this should serve as a 'wake-up call'. My youngest is a 12-year old girl & I had to come down from our car & fetch her. My other kids older than her, in their 20's I had to hold their hands when crossing the road. (Even it means they're shy because they're old enough to do it for themselves?). Sorry for them but hello, I'm still the mom!

By -macy-• 20 Oct 2009 08:53
-macy-

how sad...

kids should not cross the roads alone. :( a guradian should always be there to guide.

hope this will serve as a lesson to everybody.

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 08:52
mjamille28

yes, unbelievable that they do that, and they call themselves parents.. :/

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:49
anonymous

fil, if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys!!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:48
anonymous

nicaq, I also pick up my daughter from school. But I move my a** out of the climatized car and walk to receive her personally. How many parents keep sitting in their cool cars, honk the horns and wait until the little one finds the way to the car! It is unbelievable but true!

By fil_qatar• 20 Oct 2009 08:47
fil_qatar

even they get nothing,, they have to do thier duty....the school admin has to pay for this...

By mjamille28• 20 Oct 2009 08:47
mjamille28

this is so sad and horrible.. but why was the child let out of the school gate? and the mother was on the other side of the road?

By dugong• 20 Oct 2009 08:45
dugong

my sympathy for the parents of the child.

Maybe the incident serves as an eye opener to provide school zones speed limit and/or designate Security/ Staff to assist crossing student/ pedestrians at the street.

"Work with dignity. Love with honesty. Live holy."

By nicaq25• 20 Oct 2009 08:45
nicaq25

aside from the school security, parents/guardians should take care of their kids when outside the premises of the school.

By britexpat• 20 Oct 2009 08:42
britexpat

I often drive through there when the school is out. In all honesty, TOO MANY drivers (Both ladies and men) park stupidly and pull out without really looking.

many have flash cars and just want to look cool.

By leelah• 20 Oct 2009 08:41
leelah

must be horrible for a mother seeing her own child......

My condolence to the family.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:41
anonymous

Yes, the "security" normally is sleeping because they only get 800 Riyals salary.

By fil_qatar• 20 Oct 2009 08:39
fil_qatar

YES, but why she came out from school without any body where is the security of the school, sleeping....they should watch the children every time, same with the other school they dont let any kids go without the parents...sometimes we have to waste life just learned something.... the poor little angel...

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:38
anonymous

The point is that every idiot can open a school. There are no security requirements. You can rent a building and start a school. Never mind if it is suitable or not. The government should close half of the private schools unless they'd comply with stringent security measures, which, of course, don't exist. So, who's to blame?

By Dali• 20 Oct 2009 08:37
Dali

Truly heartbreaking, why oh why oh why do these four wheelers share the same thin unequipped roads with everyday people!?

I have often wished as they drive by me precauriously that they should be given allocated roads.

I'm just too distraught and can't bear to write anymore.

"I disagree with everything you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

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By one_shot• 20 Oct 2009 08:37
one_shot

MG

it is not something to make fun of it

it is real tragedy

please show some respect

a lot of us we see must and must but the girl has died and this is really sad

Allah please give patient to her parents

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"It could be a picture

It could be a medicine

it could be a bullet

depends on how you see it"

By _noms_• 20 Oct 2009 08:35
_noms_

Poor Parents! :(

Unlucky Driver! :(

May the poor little girl's soul rest in peace!

~noms~

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"Before God we are all equally wise ' and equally foolish" - Albert Einstein

By nicaq25• 20 Oct 2009 08:34
nicaq25

for a 5 year-old or even older children. The road though wide is not a playground & should be treated with great caution. I'm sorry but blaming anybody is useless now, however may this serve as a lesson for us parents.

By britexpat• 20 Oct 2009 08:34
britexpat

A tragedy. May the little on rest in peace and may her parents find the strength to bear their loss.... Amen..

By samia08• 20 Oct 2009 08:34
samia08

it is sad

they should close this roed and open a parking back the petrol station

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:33
anonymous

What! :-j @ MD? lolz...

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:31
anonymous

Don't use your mobile when you're not driving!

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:30
anonymous

The mother was busy talking on mobile phone while this incident happened according to Gulf Times...she is the one who should be blamed for this loss...

Parents too become very careless and these incidents happens.

Syed Qadeer

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:30
anonymous

Every School should have a place where they can drop n pick up their KIDS... same like PISQ(Philippine International School) they have d main Entrance,,, so u can drop ur kids in safe place,,,

MAIN ENTRANCE(at d backside of school,,, not,,, MAIN GATE!(which is in d front...

But some of,, HMMMM i can't say WHO,, still parking in a side walk,,, n others r from d other side of the street..

Come on! this is for d sake of ur kids,,,

WAKE UPPPPPPPPPPP!

We were given: Two hands to hold. To legs to walk. Two eyes to see. Two ears to listen. But why only one heart? Because the other was given to someone else. For us to find.

By anonymous• 20 Oct 2009 08:29
anonymous

and i am aslo agree what traffic official said but what about the School authorities? They should keep eyes on children, provide private security but no one talk about this issue,,i dont have any words for her poor mother

Proud To Be A PAKISTANI

.~*AnteecA*~.

By nicaq25• 20 Oct 2009 08:25
nicaq25

to the family. But the traffic official was right;"If a child is crossing the road, the parent or someone older must catch his or her hand and guide".

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