Farewell to Qatar Airport Screening

I'll just add that in JFK Terminal 4 departures (New York, 9/11, ...)

Your luggage is put in the x-ray machinethat feeds the lugguage belt after you get your boarding card (Business and First class get it carried from them).

The only security check is right after the passport check, and you immediately board the plane after that, even duty free is before all that, in the open.

True Tallg as it creates a great deal of diversion.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Well there is potentially harm, the-birdie, because it creates a large queue/crowd in a very tight and small area (between the airport entrance and the security check) which is exactly the sort of thing people look for when trying to inflict as much carnage as possible when blowing things up.

though it creates discomfort for the passengers, to make it more watertight, there is no harm to have a second screening within 200 meters...why to show fuzz or impatience or hyperactivity on such issues ? Airport authorities do this for security for all of us.

Potentially valid points Weasel. Congratulations on being the first person to present a sensible and reasoned argument for keeping the first security check!

The thing is, since no other airport I know of has this check it obviously isn't considered useful. The problems it causes must outweigh the advantages it gives.

This prevents someone from entering the main crowded terminal and blowing themselves up at the check-in area.

Also, it eases the pressure on the second check which is carried out on checked-in baggage. Same with the body check after immigration.

One has to remember that security checks are not always watertight. Two checks reduce the probability of something slipping through.

At the end of the day, it's much easier to take care of a potential problem at the front door, rather than try to sort it out inside the terminal. This could result in having to shutdown / evacuate the terminal, or at the least, cause more flight delays.

Lol Bleu, they can pass everyone through hula hoops and tell then it is the latest tech in security.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

salax85: would you feel better if they added 10 fake security checks?

Lol, Tallg I have been thinking about that and couldn't quite come up with the reasoning behind that other than the First Class Terminal doesn't have these checks?

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

At least us 'elite' people understand.

True enough fubar. You can actually get closer to the runway by driving out near the parachute R/A, or go to the cargo section if it is proximity to the runway etc. What else could the concern be, as you said the freakin screens are 100, 200 m apart at best.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

I fail to see what everyone is so concerned about.

You will not be able to board a plane without having gone through security screening.

Flights are just as safe as they were before.

What is so confusing about that?

All they have done is removed the need to be screened TWICE within 100m.

The other thing about the positioning of that security check is that there were often more people on the 'before' side of it than 'after' side, so exploding before the check-in would often have caused more harm!

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.really?

.that is suicide, omg....

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I am flattered Tallg, perhaps you and I are the elitists :)

Again, even when the security check was there I could walk through, set the thing on fire it beeped so much and no one even looked at me. As Kenya_Queen has pointed out, I carry a massive bomb under my hijab anyway.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

the-birdie, arien - you're missing the point. It's not about sacrificing security for convenience. The security check that has been removed was pointless. That's why it's been removed. All it did was stop people taking illegal items from one side of the check-in area to the other.

I'm all for having all the necessary security measures. That's why I pointed out earlier how useless security is at Doha airport. But I can also see that the check that has been removed made no difference to anything.

Please explain what part of this is elitist and nonsense.

The security was useless as it the departures area is a stones throw away from the main entrance. If it was an issue (i.e for a bombing) just getting to the initial check would be enough to take more than half the airport anyway as this check is about 300 meters from the other check (which is the thourough check anyway).

Also, a majority of people in this portion of the airport arent even travelling anyway. If their purpose was to put something in someones bag these are screened after they go through immigration.

Alot of people being saved??

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

I fully support 100% with Arien.

It is not "individual discomfort" should be taken into account. We should think abut the whole society. Even if it makes me a lot of trouble, I will still support strict checking, bcause I know a lot of people are going to be saved.

Some of the "elite" peopole dont understand this and talking nonsense !!!!

I do not have any complaints on how muhcever hectic the security checks and systems are when it comes to air Travel.

I would say those who compain are suffering '' Nothing will happen to me syndrome''

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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.

I agree these metal detectors and such are a waste of time. I always go through these here in Doha and light the thing up everytime. If I ask them if they want me to go through again or remove my waych they pass me through anyway. To be honest I used to walk through there with my purse not being scanned and no one said a word.

Syrias airport also doesnt let you through until your flight is on the board. I was protesting as I had access to the business class lounge and wanted to eat, do some shopping and tie up some work ends in the business center but they wouldnt budge.

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Heard that they Middle east have increased the amount of air marshals on specific air routes... Guess, they can take care off any rack tht wud happen in the air

kool,

The existing airport screening, whereby you go through metal detectors after passport control but before you enter the duty free shopping, is adequate and is what is used in practically every other country in the world.

Not all countries x-ray checked baggage, so even if it happens in Doha, passengers boarding from connecting flights where checked baggage isn't x-rayed, will have slipped through the net anyway.

The only important thing to me is that carry on baggage and passengers are x-rayed. This is still happening, and, for my money, still sufficient.

Personally I could never work out why I had to remove my keys, coins, phones, watch etc when I walked in to the airport, only to to be searched a second time after my passport had been stamped.

Total overkill (no pun...).

by that logic kool130, you should be worried whenever you go into any public building that doesn't have a scanner at the entrance.

And I don't thin Lady Di's death is in quite the same ball park as 9/11!

im a bit worried about this...

remember JFK, Lady Di, 9/11, 7/7.. which somehow security was an issue?

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Peace out

cant expect anything less from a country gone through so many terror attacks...and Airports are mostly on terror alert.

I think they did the same at Cairo airport - wouldn't let us in until the flight was on the board.

You are not allowed into the airport unless your flight is reflecting on the flight board, so if you get to the airport more than 3 hours before your flight, you have to sit in a Visitors Lounge over the road from the Terminal until the correct time.

Once through, the screening process is hectic... Removal of jackets, anything metal, including phones, cameras from your person and your bags. They confiscated a lighter, that Doha had passed.... Then you go through the metal detector to a small cubicle where you are just short of strip searched before being allowed to collect your things...

"if you don't like the heat... get out of the kitchen... but stop trying to fan the flames before you leave... it will burn you on the a** as you go through the doorway...." ME

visit www.qaws.org

But as I said in my earlier comment Dora, you're already inside the airport at that point. And if you start screening people going into an airport, then why not start it at every public building?

I would have thought that any security is better than no security! surely this one is to sift out any semtex wearing charlatans before they actually enter the airport........can't understand it!

its normal human mentality....

when there was a huge security cover, everybody jumped around asking for lesser security and the way passengers were treated like objects. and now when the security process has reduced for people convenience there you have people jumping around getting the shocker.

get a life!

Very true fubar. Security at Doha airport is some of the slackest I've ever seen.

It always seemed unfair to me that when you check in to the premium terminal you only go through security after passport control, but when you go to the regular terminal you get screened twice.

Good ridance, I say.

It's not as though the screening has a point anyway - none of the security guards are paying any attention to their monitors, and when women wearing abayas go through and beep they hardly ever get checked anyway.

Quit with the pretence of security and save us all the hassle.

What if someone enters a shop with explosives, or the bus station, or a mosque, or a hotel, or where ever? You can't have scanners everywhere.

The scanners at airports are to check you aren't trying to take illegal items onto the plane.

And even before the scanner was removed you could still have walked into the airport building and blown your self up if you'd wanted to. There was a good stretch of room before you reached the scanner, and it was often full of people queueing.

What if someone enter the first gate with some explosive, cant they blow the whole place?

I find it really surprising

It's the useless check when you enter the airport, a waste of time, and a long queue.

When you're going to the US, you get an extra US-style security check in a mini-bus, where you take off your belt, shoes, jackets, laptops, and you get padded by a police-person ...etc. Just like in the US.

Yeah, we were just pondering that last time we were there. Never been in any other airport that has screening as soon as you walk in the door.

You mean the one has you enter the check in?

I always wondered why they had the first baggage screening/security check. It seemed unnecessary as everything was scanned again at some later point in the process.

Glad they got rid of it as it should speed things up.

thanks for the info then.

QR has nothing to do with security checking. It is the sole resposnsibility of the Immigration Police.

after immigraton clearence there is one more check point before going to the boarding gate. so there is no compromise is being done in case of security & safety...

Dont worry...

I am not sure birdie, just posting what she said. I didnt feel like asking the policemen why.. Justy in case they changed their minds lol

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

thanks for the info.

Is the QA lass given reply is an authentic explanation ?

I think, Flight Security should be strict and upgraded, even if it gives a little discomfort for the passengers .