Dubai 'adultery' mum's agony !

Just because she was having tea with a friend?

Oh god, if she goes to bed with him what would happen then?

Is it crime to drink a cup of tea with someone we just call a friend? With no other intention?

I am really impressed with this...sure i am...

MissX,

Sorry to step in but I would like to tell you that your comments in this post reveal a high degree of maturity, fairness and humanity.

Obviously nothing you wrote here would give away any hint of sexism.

PS.

Just an advice: Don’t bother when people accuse you in vain. Just remember that sometimes, there is no point and not worth it to bang our heads against the wall, especially here!

I have to agree with you Tess.

I am not 100% convinced of her innocence but I must say it is a double standard. Had it been her accusing him of adultary with the same evidence etc. what do you think the verdict would have been? Coerced? Black Magic? A mistake?

I think if the shoe was on the other foot this chap would not have gotten the same treatment. If he is as close to his children as he seems to be I can understand him using any means neccessary to get his children, but I am speaking from a mothers perspective as I think I would cut off my right arm before anyone took my children. _____________________________________________________

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

Please explain to me how anything I have said is sexist? Quote me, I don't mind. And as far as my inactions go, as you yourself pointed out, change does not happen overnight. It's happening slowly, and it happens in the minds of individuals. I can not make a big difference alone, but I am arguing for the woman who was condemned by the society she lives in, and hopefully people who read this forum who may not have had an opinion before, may have one now. If you have some realistic suggestions as to how else I can prevent the Dubai police from keeping this woman in jail and then deporting her and thus keeping her apart from her children potentially forever, then please feel free to share. As it stands, I maintain that the punishment far exceeded the crime, and that the husband used malicious tactics to get his revenge.

I do not accuse you of empty words, i merely point out fact, it is clear you are more concerned about arguing with me than making a stand and actually doing something about an issue you are clearly not serious about!

I thought you were deserving of a few big words to go with you largely false truths :(. It pains me to be this way with you, but the 'truth' of the matter is this is one big joke to you and if one minute you really cared, again i reitterate you would do something about it instead of arguing with me on a ql. As for being male or female, just fess up, you know your sexist :) I have pulled you up on it

'she got caught with a knickers down' you commit the crime you do the time. Laws should not be broken, who makes you greater than the law and local morality.

Equilibrium exists in everything, go grab a kit kat Miss X, your words are falling on deaf ears and your actions equate to nothingness which further equates to what you really think about this adultress crime.

Enjoy:P

The only thing I've read on here have been personal comments about this woman (none from news sources). So who the heck knows if she was having tea with some guy, or mattress dancing with her boyfriend or what...we really don't know.

That said, simply cheating on one's spouse doesn't make a person a bad parent (if they're parading a slew of men/women around in front of the kids, then you might have an argument..). From what I HAVE read on other sites about this story, it sounds like their marriage was already over with, they just needed to finish the paperwork. So that doesn't really constitute cheating, IMHO.

If the courts have been biased towards women in most custody cases, it usually because most men don't demonstrate the level of sacrifice needed to be the full-time parent. That's not to say that there aren't some great dads out there -- there definitely are, as sure as there are some lousy mothers. But women will usually take care of their offspring even when it comes at their own expense. Men are less apt do that.

This is why a lot of micro-credit organizations like the Grameen Bank have been issuing over 95% of their loans to WOMEN in poor developing nations; the women will start a business and use the money earned to support their families and raise their standard of living. The men tend to drink the money away or spend it on themselves, not on their families.

I think before you accuse me of empty words, you should look at your last post. Although very well written, they hold little substance. "My truths are so convoluted that I struggle to understand myself" lol? Congratulations on the big words, but I think I made my "truths" very clear, and that is that the man in question showed more evil tendencies for getting his wife put in jail, than the woman did by allegedly committing an affair. To me, it is irrelevant whether they are male or female.

And I hope to God if for one second I am as sexist as you, as you have accused me of, that someone else will pull me up on it. Someone aside from the person who thinks any infidelity is a females fault, regardless of whether the male or female commits it.

easy! getting a little personal now!

Hapy: Is she your mother, sister, aunt, for you to know that she's a slut?

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

Sexism, a term coined in the late 20th century, refers to the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to or less valuable than the other. It can also refer to hatred of, or prejudice towards, either sex as a whole (see misogyny and misandry), or the application of stereotypes of masculinity in relation to men, or of femininity in relation to women.[1] It is also called male and female chauvinism.

I am no more sexist than you, you just have this self righteous do gooder attitude, yet you do nothing, then come out with poor excuses for you sitting on your hands and not supporting your beliefs. Poor little misguided soul :(

You have only exposed people to the box of you live in and that your belief is so strong you fight an argument with empty words and support the very argument you fight against byt not acting. You cannot change the world over night especially if you dont have any true conviction and the demarcations of your truths are so convoluted you struggle to understand yourself... or what your even talking about

I think you need to go read up on your definition of sexism. My argument is that no one should go to jail and have their kids removed from them for adultery, regardless if they are male or female. In this case the man brought it down upon the woman on purpose, which I think shows a truly malicious nature. Especially because it was towards the mother of his children.

And towards your comment about not doing something about it, and that I should be petitioning. I think we all know just how seriously petitions are taken. Hopefully I am doing more by posting in this forum than any 1 signature of mine could do on a petition. The more exposure people get to views and perspectives that are outside their norm, the more people's minds will question things. Change begins with people's perceptions, and hopefully I have exposed someone out there to a different one.

:P:P:)

all jokes aside, she got caught with her knickers down, why should the rules be bent for her, the law always favours women in matrimonial disputes, in a thousand other things which i wont go in to detail about. There is never any compassion for a good father/husband... as soon as something goes against a lady, she has to do a prison sentence because she breached her vows etc... all this self righteous bull comes from a thousand people. She knew the rules and took adv. People make decisions, some wrong and some right, its way of the world, the most important thing is that we learn from them. One day i hope you can think more outside the 'sexist' box you live in and realise thats with live in a world inequality and this is just a first step in a return to equilibrium....

you have been scourned and extremely sexist yourself. Do something about it if you are so passionate about her rights! all talk! go and petition instead of sitting around having an opinion trying to convince yourself that your not against 'man'kind. :P:P:P:P

Well may be it sounds derogatory to you, but at least we don't hide our remarks, such as

"if a man sleeps with another women behind the wifes back its because he has been manipulated and coerced, he does it because he has no choice. Women do it for sporting reasons"

behind smiley face emoticons that attempt to distract from how blatantly sexist and small minded they are.

undertone, you know the whole self righteous, we are the world vybe...

Actually not one woman in this forum has suggested a man be imprisoned for adultery. In fact the whole point was that his reaction and the subsequent consequences were overly harsh, no matter if the perpetrator was male or female.

you ladies would be saying, hang him, you have such double standards, the girl was clearly practicing fellatio at the time but it couldnt be published in the papers, too much jumping to conclusions :P

So,

Having tea with stranger = Adultery

they had already thrown the towel in on their marriage...so in this case, I don't think you can really say she "strayed", roadtester.

Perhaps technically people should wait until they have their signed divorce decree in hand, but in reality folks generally start to socialize and date before that happens.

And hapy...he married the woman and had kids with her. Must not of thought too poorly of her if he did that. Now their marriage is kaput and she maybe chose to have a relationship with another man (though as we've said much earlier, none of us really knows what happened here) -- so that makes her a slut?

The bias and slant you guys have is truly mind-boggling...

It seems like your comments above about being objective and only giving us the facts wasn't so unbiased after all, now was it hapy?

I hope one day all people will realise that being a good person and being happy, are far more important than the trivial things that occupy smaller minds.

how wud a man let his children be raised by a slut.

Im not suprised the guy did that, when a woman cheats the man can take it badly and im sure in this testosterone rich culture out here he wanted to get back at her in any way possible. Though why did she stray - was he not loving or not satisfying her!?

lets not make assumptions, if she was a murderer ... would he still be a bad man? too much intepretation, he did what he had to :)

Some details that were left out of the original post, is that the two people were actually separated and preparing for a divorce and prospective custody battle of the children. If Ihab El-Labban is as "honest, good, kind, generous, hard working and very loving" as Hapy says he is, then he would never have publicly accused her of adultery in a country where it is punishable by jail, no matter how many lies his soon-to-be ex wife may have told. To me, his behaviour speaks of a vindictive man who wants revenge on a wife that has embarrassed him. Whether she was actually "cheating" on her estranged husband is irrelevant to me, because causing a woman to be jailed and her children removed from her on purpose, makes him the far lesser person.

why do you break me down as you do, cant guy vent about the wife the sympathy pain hes has for the man who suffered an injustice brought upon my miss treachory ???

we are all scorned by the treachoury of women all the time :P

precedent, we never should have one rule for some and one rule for another. The law is the law, we should not impose our rules on others cultures, she knew what she was doing, for many years women have got away with crimes far worse, what goes around comes around :P

I am appalled at the views expressed by most of the man on this topic. It appears that empathy and compassion are words found in dictionary and not in male heart. Should'nt she be pardoned until her kids grow up to a certain mature age. After all there is a certain word called 'mercy'. If not for her atleast her kids deserve mercy.

Who never did anything wrong, please throw the first stone.

Where have i seen this words?

Everyone is guilty of something and nobody has the right to blame no one.

Better to live with their own errors and learn with them.Try to be better person each day.

In fact adultery is a sin and people must think everytime they fell the intention to commit such thing and the consequences.

all these sexist women putting the blame on us men. we are always guilty even when we are always innocent. If a man sleeps with another women behind the wifes back its because he has been manipulated and coerced, he does it because he has no choice. Women do it for sporting reasons :)

Abu: Lol :)

Dora/PM: rofl

Only God Can Judge Me

الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer

أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

You are right. Men don't knowingly go out to cheat.. They are usually hypnotized by the bumpy bits and then ofcourse find themselves mere pawns at the hand of the woman :(

adultery is committed all the time by women....is it now? what about men? women,as I said earlier, do not adulterate if they are in a happy, loving relationship.......

is committed by women all the time, its about time some action was taken, the amount of times men and kids have had to suffer even when innocent because some girl cant keep here knickers on LOL...........

You are absolutely right Pryda!!! But also for Asian non-arab women (like me) take this lesson and don't make the same mistake!

Tea party at Abus when hes not home.

Women don't adulterate for no reason...I don't think either party is entirely innocent of wrong doing!...Glad I'm not a divorce lawyer!

Its seems that the woman is a cheater, has a temper, has difficulty holding on to jobs and a liar. On top of that she has given up the kids. So let the kids be with the father. Though i do feel that Dubai authorities have no right of moral policing thay shud let the woman go.

FOR ME IF EVER THERE'S A PROBLEM BETWEEN THE COUPLES, ITS THEIR PROBLEM, IF EVER THE WOMAN, FELL FOR SOMEONE, THAT'S BETWEEN THEM, WITH IN THEIR HOUSE AND LIFE.. BUT WITH CONSIDERATIONS EVEN IF THE LADY MADE A MISTAKE IN LOVE, I THINK THE KIDS SHOULD STILL STAY WITH THE MOTHER, NO MOTHER WILL EVER, EVER THINK AND DO WRONG WITH HER CHILD, AND MEN,WE ARE BUILD TOUGH BY THE CREATOR.. NO HINDRANCE AS THIS COULD PUT A BLEMISH TO OUR SOUL.. OUR EGO PERHAPS, BUT IF THE TIDE IS HIGH WE CAN STILL HOLD ON, UN LIKE WOMEN...

By the looks of it, the children don't feel comfortable leaving their mother.

Wow mate, sounds like you got issues.

But this happens all the time, all over the world, not just in "inter-cultural marriages"

Perhaps you have hit the nail on the head.. The children have been used as pawns by the husband to punish the wife..

Even if she did commit the crime, they are her kids just as much as his, and she squeezed them out, i think she still deserves to see them, but alas, the cultures of two worlds will never see eye to eye.

Good work.. It always helps to know both sides..

hapy, thanks for the details.

Only in this part of the world, you see so many moralists, putting their 5 cents in people's private's lives the way we see it here.

Disgusting and scary!!!!!!!

Whatever happened, it should be nobody’s business, besides her and her husband.

Thanks for sharing this....I didn't expect this level of detail though.

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

dmigtysolomon,

John Lennon died of a horrible death, because an ignorant and fanatic person acted in the name of sets of rules established by men, often centuries ago!!!!!!!

It makes me sad to witness how one can go through life imposing on others their personal believes, thinking that they are so special that they know for SURE how and why we are here and where are we going next!!!!!

It’s OK to believe in whatever we wish to believe, but imposing that on others is wrong, particularly when pain is involved - that is torture!

Woman is guilty as charged.

Have you checked both sides of the story before judging??

I have known Ihab El-Labban for many years and I know him quite well. I also know his wife, Marnie Pearce. I have sat by quietly for some time during this horrific ordeal they have been going through, but I can be silent no longer.

I am really sad of what have ended up with their lovely children. They deserve a better life with a mature, responsible & caring person.

Ihab is an honest, good, kind, generous, hard working and very loving. He is especially loving to his two children. He adores them and has had a wonderful, close relationship with them since they were born. They also adore their father. Ihab is well respected by his friends, family, and work colleagues.

{I am not taking any side here, I am just addressing the other side of the story.

Information below are based on real life experience & quotes from different parties.

References are available upon request.}

Lies and manipulation of others:

Marnie, on the other hand, speaks more untruths. (That’s based on a “must read attachement” and it is Marnie’s email to Brian her lover with her life story even describing Ihab as “HE WAS KIND, EXTSTREMELY GENEROUS AND JUST VERY NICE. A GOOD HONEST PERSON”)

Aggression and Children abuse:

I think Marnie has been (most of the time) abusive verbally, emotionally and sometimes physically to her children, to Ihab and even to her housemaid. I believe this behaviour must have followed her throughout her entire life because she seems to have great difficulty dealing with everyone around her. This is partly why she was fired from numerous jobs, including her most recent one as a teacher’s assistant. She was fired from her last job in Oman in 1998 (?) she was also asked to leave the country. Thanks to Ihab’s kindness and perseverance, he worked diligently to overturn this and she was allowed to stay in the end.

Who is the victim here??

My main point here is to let you know who is the innocent victim here & who is trying to portray to be. I believe that everything Marnie has said in the News is false. She wants sympathy to get people to send her money just like she did to Ihab for the past 9 years. She even told others that she “would stay in Dubai for as long as she could and screw Ihab and get all the money she could out of him before she ran off with his boys and her latest boyfriend, Brian, to Mauritious (?) and Ihab would never see his boys again.” (see the original in attachement 2 to her boyfriend)

“DATE: SAT, 22 MAR 2008 07:33:27 -0700 (PDT)

FROM: MARNIE EL-LABBAN

SUBJECT: RE: HI

TO: BETT

WELL IM JUST GONNA PUT THE BOYS TO BED, BUT WHA TI WAS GONNA SAY WAS IF THINGS WORK OUT WITH BRIAN I WONT BE COMING BACK TOT THE UK (FUCK THAT) HE ADORES ME, LOVES THE BOYS AND WE WILL JUST GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTTRY!! OH AND BY THE WAY WE ARE LOOKING FOR A HOUSE IN MAURITIUS!! I AINT LETTING GO OF THIS ONE ANDIM GONNA TRY TO BE BETTER AT IT THIS TIME THAN THE LAST!!

WE ARE COMING TO SCOTLAND FOR A WEDDING IN JULY (IHAB WILL BE WITH BOYS HERE) AND WE ARE ALSO GOINGTO MAURITIUS!! FOR AWEEK!!

OH AN DI HAVE THE BIGGEST WOODEN NOSE, TOLD IHAB ENDLESS PORKIES (LOL, LOL) XXXXXXXXXXXXXX”

False information:

I have read her stories in the papers and I quickly lose count of all what I read! For example, she has stated in the news papers and in her Facebook page 3 different amounts of time that she has been in Dubai. I have seen 12, 13, and 15 years. I know for a fact, she has only been in Dubai for 5 (?) years. I came to know that she didn’t quit her last job, when in reality she was fired for poor behaviour (Jumeirah Primary School, JPS). She says there is no evidence against her , yet the police records show a long list of hard evidence proving her guilt beyond a doubt.

False allegations:

This so-called other child that Ihab has with another woman could also be easily checked out. Why hasn’t she investigated this to prove the child’s existence? Completely fabricated.

Moreover, she claims that she was abused by him. Wouldn’t a British abused woman have called the police, gone to a hospital, filed a report or at the very least, tried to escape from such a horrible man? Feel free to check that out as well. There are no police reports, no hospital visits, (except when she broke her leg jumping over a wall to escape the police,) no bruises ever, no anything.

Preferred her boyfriend over children:

She was given everything by her overly generous and kind husband, Ihab. Tolerated a marriage that wasn’t good for many years and he was tired of her verbal abuse.) He let her stay in the luxury home with the children, a housemaid, a nice car, and all the money she could spend. Wasn’t it enough? As per the police report, she brought strange men to the house with the children present. The housemaid told Ihab about all the many late night visits because she was also worried about the childrens’ well being. She was the one who collected most of the hard physical evidence that proved what had been going on in Marnie’s bedroom while the children slept in the very next room. Once, when Ihab warned her that her actions are not only damaging to the kids, but it is also against the law. She said she didn’t care and she can do what she likes, knowing full well the punishment for this crime is jail, deportation. She continued with the affair. She chose this new man over her own children. (see attachements)

Loving Father losing children:

After the incedent, Ihab decided to keep a close eye on his children. Apparently, she didn’t like the fact that he was back at home and impairing her social activities, so she decided to run with the children to the shelter run by the accused woman, Sharla Musbah!!!! and cry “abuse.” After a very short while, some of the other women in the shelter, and even Sharla, started to confess to Ihab that they no longer wanted Marnie there because of her lies, the aggression and the way she treated the others let alone the way she treated her own children.

Ihab just wants his children to be in a safe, happy, healthy, stable, and loving environment. He wants to give that to them and is more than capable and willing to take care of his boys.

“Marnie Pearce’s allegations that she was framed..

The truth, based on which the Court of Appeal upheld that verdict.

• Emails from Marnie to Brian Clark, her lover, with very intimate details about her life and details of their sexual acts

• Other emails with plans to escape with the children and mentioning how she lied to cover it.

• Condoms found by the police with the semen of Brian and proven by DNA testing not to be the Husbands and with her vaginal DNA on it (as per the Forensic lab testing).

• The housemaid statement mentioning the exact dates, times, place and actions of Marnie and Brian. He was coming to my house late at night and leaving in the early hours of the morning (with all the indecent acts in front of the children.)

• Marnie’s hand written diary with the dates of his visits and also their sexual relationship.

• Marnie’s confession to the police and the prosecution that

o Brian slept at home

o The emails form her to Brian are her emails

• Brian’s dates of arrival and departure coinciding with the dates of their meetings

• Brian’s sudden disappearance and his resignation from his work with Halliburton in KSA and his escape back to the Scotland.”

At the end, it is not about taking any side of the story, it is all about having the lovely Laith & Ziad to be with the one who will take good care of them & who is really responsible.

They deserve a better life.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:AyPL-8XDY1UJ:www.facebook.com/group.php%3Fsid%3Db07ac29eb9051cfcb2b08b50cfdf815d%26gid%3D51056876743+marnie+pearce+brian+e+mail&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=qa

Why she came to Dubai? Ofcourse coz she cud get an Indonesian maid, a 4 wheel and cheap oil, all that she cud not afford to in UK

Gypsy - yes, absolute power corrupts absolutely and that's why some of us create options so we're not held over the barrel of a gun in as many circumstances as we can think of to defend. Defcon 4,3,2,1 - WWAAARRR!

/I don't have Defcon 5 in my execution plan.

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

UKEng - "Egptian men do have a history of this kind of actions.. There were few cases in UK where the man had kidnapped his own children and taken them to Egypt.."

- Not only Egyptian men, Malaysian men also. Got no time to search but there are a few cases where the husband kidnapped the kids and took them.. I think to Australia or somewhere ... and the wife went to court to fight for custody and lost and then people complained and criticised Muslims, etc.etc. Really, at the end of the day - people gotta understand things at more than surface level.

/Either you guys do a search or I'll post it later .. but don't hold your breath, cos I'm really very tied up and no time to dig up anything. Sigh!

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

'Perhaps this makes a case against "inter cultural marriages" '

Why,because if you marry an Egyptian or Arab man, he's sure to take your children away and have you thrown in jail?

You people have been watching toooo many movies!

:-S

Still dont know about this... If she admitted to this to not prolong her childrens agony would it not have the opposite effect if her children were taken away from her? She stated that in her previous interview before she turned herself in she was aware she may loose her children.

I also dont understand why she went into hiding if she claims innocence. It just doesnt make sense to me to be honest. If I was accused of this I would not admit defeat, nor go into hiding as it would make me seem guilty would it not?

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

LifeIs Beautiful - very well said. Agree wholeheartedly.

Ummjake - to add - not only Middle Eastern men, all men in the beginning are on good behaviour -

"Middle Eastern men generally act all nice and sort of liberal/open in the beginning, but give it some time and see their true colors and traditions rear their head..."

- Not only Muslims. Really. I've been infatuated with some guys when I was younger and luckily things didn't pan out - cos discovered later that there were a bit fanatical. .. Ok, way fanatical and God knew better.

"But honestly...having tea with a male friend is adultery? Give me a friggin break..."

- No, actually having tea with any Muslim in a private area (eg. a home) one on one is prima facie khalwat (I dunno what you guys call it here) and actionable per se. So that's the reason why I don't hang out with my company guys who are mostly Muslims. They can all condemn me and say that I'm stuck up and unfriendly, not a team player cos I'm not "one of the boys" but hellO?? I AM NOT one of the boys. But I make it clear to my boss why I do what I do.

Back on track - I only hang out with any of the Muslim guys in public, preferably with other women around or if not, still in public places - like the QLVG and QLSG, etc. Never in private. Not because I'm a prude but because my actions remain above board. Also one of the reasons why I'm usually alone or stick to the girls.

"As they say in this part of the world, "God never hits with a stick." I hope her husband remembers this..."

- Yes, indeed. IF he's the actual guilty party, then he will answer to God. Even Christians believe - "Beloved, do not avenge yourselves; leave that to God's wrath, for it is written: 'Vengeance is mine; I will repay,' says the Lord" - Romans 12:19

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

Okay a quick internet search reveals that condoms were also found in the apartment, wouldn't the DNA evidence in this case prove adultery?

Though, considering what goes on in Dubai under the nose of police, it seems unfair to jail this woman for adultery, but custody of kids shud go to Dad.

LIB:

1. Could have seen ur point if this happened in Saudi.This happened in Dubai, where nightclubs and discos abound. Ever been to a nightclub in dubai? Believe me, drinking tea with a guy is nothing compared to what is allowed to happen here all the time in broad daylight.

2. How did the husband know the right time to barge in? Also he had the police with him at that time? quite convenient.

3."She will marry a man from ME,get all the ,uxuries associated with wives from this part of the world and enjoy the carefree modern lifestyle of her country?."- What about the man,he didnt know what the cultural background of his woman was? Doesnt he have the responsibility to accept that? Is the onus of 'understanding' and 'adjusting' completely on the woman?

Also ending a relnship, even with kids, is not seen as a big deal here (or most places for that matter). True, he had other ways of gaining custodianship, this way seals it.

I am not saying she is completely innocent, what I am saying is that I dont see her guilt being proved beyond doubt. IMHO, she deserved the benefit of doubt.

why the "great" John Lennon died a horrible death?

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

This is the case of the five condoms, and how they were used.

Were they planted by the husband?

Were they used together for 1 time?

Were they used individually for 5 times?

2/3?

2/2/1?

This issue seems stupid, even Marnie seems stupid if I remember how it was shown in a BIASED UK tabloid, with information from Marnie's friends.

The version of events described is very skec=tchy and skewed towards the woman. I mean husband burst into "her home" with police and found her "having tea"!

Does not tell you much, if they found the two at together in her flat at 1 Am with two empty cups of tea in kitchen is quite different from finding teh two in a cafeteria while having coffee.

There is more to the story than whats reported.

The pain and suffer that ignorant people cause on others, in the name of sets of rules established by men, often centuries ago!!!!!!!

Imagine there's no countries

It isn't hard to do

Nothing to kill or die for

And no religion too

Ahhh EM, absolute power corrupts absolutely does it not? :)

Gypsy said Reminds me of the book/movie ...

Reminds me of the book/movie "Not without my Daughter." Men have far to much power in this part of the world. "

- But with more power actually comes more responsibility. That is the rationale but the application of which is sadly lacking. Nothing is perfect and we can only strive to improve things - by awareness, exposure and education.

I don't mind people having power over me, provided they take care of and protect me. BUT if they take advantage of their power and try to lord it over me, then there will be a problem.

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

"Why did she move to Dubai?"

Well, it's all part of the PLAN.

Like others have stated, at first they seem liberated or open minded or westernized...then, it's like, "Oh honey, let's move to my part of the world..."

It's all part of the PLAN.

...like it or not...having tea with a man who is not related to you if brought to the attention of the authorities here;is definately punishable by law here.

Having tea with someone like me is ok...lol :)))

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

I dont understand why did she move to Dubai. They met in the UK, married in the UK then they decided to come to Dubai and the things goes pearl shape..

Egptian men do have a history of this kind of actions.. There were few cases in UK where the man had kidnapped his own children and taken them to Egypt..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

and hey, whose naked back is on the ground at the second pisture? is that a Mum's back??

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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

britexpat, this TEA with a male friend - you posted this at the material time, right? There were a few more details there and we commented. Thanks for the update.

Agree with ummjake. And not just Western but non-Muslim womens' reservations about marriages with Muslim men in general. I said, in general, there are many exceptions. This is a risk many consider before even getting involved.

Because one doesn't only think in the short term. yeah, living in the here and now is great but some reasonable foresight into the future should be considered - to avoid future pain and agony that could be a long term suffering. All marriages are risky but some are so much more riskier than others.

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

That sentiment is EXACTLY why you couldn't pay me enough money to get involved with an Arab man again. Our cultures are too different, and as another poster mentioned, the men here generally act all nice and sort of liberal/open in the beginning, but give it some time and see their true colors and traditions rear their head...

I agree with the others who have said we don't really know all the facts on this particular case yet, so we should hesitate to pass judgment.

But honestly...having tea with a male friend is adultery? Give me a friggin break...

And Amoud, to offer up one possible answer to your question, I would say she might have admitted to something because she could see that if she didn't, it would simply prolong her children's agony.

Did you ever hear the story about King Solomon and the two ladies who both claimed to be the mother of a baby? King Solomon ruled that each woman could have half the child, and he called for a sword. The real mother of the child quickly relented and begged the king not to kill the child but to give it, alive, to the other woman -- and thus, the kind found out who truly loved the child and was the baby's true mother.

As they say in this part of the world, "God never hits with a stick." I hope her husband remembers this...

...he would not have told her that.On the contrary,he would have tried to impress her with his being broadminded...lol....and she fell for it...Just kidding...this is a serious topic.Let me be serious...hehehehe

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

King Shahryar believed his wife committed adultery by uncovering her face while talking to stranger....

...he actually even killed her due to this “crime”…..

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Marnie is not the "sharpest tool in the shed!"

First, she marries a Middle Eastern man...ok, love is blind.

Secondly, she has children with this man...ok, love is still blind.

Thirdly, she has tea with a man...that's stupid..not realizing the consequences of her actions in the eyes of the law in this part of the world.

Then, she gives herself up...what was she thinking!!

NOW, the blind fold is off?

I feel very sad for her.

Didn't she read somewhere along the line that women don't have many rights in this part of the world?

BritExpat.. if this not the same lady who was married to an Egyptian who tried to cover up his own audulterest relationship by blame it on her that.. I think I have read this one or a similar like this one before..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

Culture clashhhh..

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Listen to Many..Speak to a few.

That was really detailed explanation..lol

I am not justifying that lady..just giving her the benefit of doubt.

You think this guy might have told her not to talk or meet any other men after marriage? the one who says that is absolutely insecure

I do agree with you to some extend...but its not always true

I do know few Arab men who are married to western women; they are really happy and living with a blend of both cultures. ….probably because those men are far more westernized than these narrow minded opportunists you mentioned.

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

Is this the same case we saw a month or two ago?

...is propagating it melodramatically as a tragedy IMHO this is one of the media judgements which comes with every incident which has to do something with the cross cultural issues in this part of the world. The sole objective is to catch attention of the target audience. I would never accept this as a proof or a deciding factor where a court of law is involved. If she has been found guilty of adultery by a court of law.for me, she is in the wrong. The courts in this part of the world run on Sharia and what she did is unlawful for which she has been punished.

Also,going by the facts,no husband would barge into the house with police unless he is reasonably certain about the facts. Afterall it's got to do with his own honour and pride. Do you think the husband is unscathed by this incident? He too is equally involved in the relationship which has an ugly ending. He would have taken his share of pain before deciding to take this drastic action.

I ask this woman,wasn't she aware that her act of 'having tea' with an unrelated male subject constitutes adultery? She can't be so innocent my friend. She should have known what she is getting into when she boldly decided to marry a man from a culture which is so drastically different from hers. If she didn't notice that;too bad for her. What was she thinking? She will marry a man from ME,get all the ,uxuries associated with wives from this part of the world and enjoy the carefree modern lifestyle of her country? She has to be rediculous if she thought that way.You can't have the cake and eat it too.Having kids with someone involves tremendous committment from both parties.Hence I don't think husband was keen on ending things this way.If he wanted to get rid of her there are many other ways of doing that. We should not demonize the husband and judge the wife to be the victim in this case.

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

I am in a bit of doubt.. why would she admit to this to get it over with if she knew the repercussions would be the possibility of loosing her children?

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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

FS- Guilty as charged :-p

In my opinion, it is better for western women not to end up marrying Middle Eastern men. Although they tend to be broadminded and open during the 'Courting' phase of a relationship, they DEFINITELY open up there true orthodox nature in the long run.

And the best part is they turn as hardliners just in time they want to...I'll call this as being opportunist. And its a big lesson that lies here for all non-arab women contemplating such a decision.

Reminds me of the book/movie "Not without my Daughter." Men have far to much power in this part of the world.

what you mean by her fault? can you please clarify?

You are the culprit! lol

...bittergaurd...how can you expect mangoes?? Sorry. Her fault. Totally.

As you sow,so shall you reap!

Life is Beautiful...Indeed!

western women and our society have reservations about marriages with men from this part of the world. It's stories like this one that make you think twice (or should make you think twice).

Dealing with an intercultural relationship on its own is hard enough, but add kids into the mix, and then throw in a divorce and custody issues, and it makes you question if you even want to start down that road, given the possibilities for stuff like this.

Where is our Egyptian friend? who was giving lecture about the great qualities of Egyptians? any commnets on this??

I can't comment.. The story is only one sided, better have the husbands version too

...You can't mean what you say unless you can say what you mean...

Please god save the children from the father.... U can see the children who was not willing to go to their father .... Having tea with male is adultery....heck..please pray for marnie... i feel so bad for her..

LOL...FS! I guess COFFEE shouldnt be a problem ,yeah? ;)

Afaque: Question is not whethr she was really cheating. Question is on what grounds was she found guilty of adultery? I mean all they found was her having tea with someone.

On top of it, the whole adultery issue was brought up in the middle of a custody battle makes it even more murky.

Having Tea with a male is adultury? lol then I have commited many times :(

The ptoblem is that if the husband "whisks" the children away, what rights / options does she have ? IMHO , None.

truth will come out for sure and hope she will be vindicated.

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

or may be she was really cheating!

Her Husband only needed an excuse. He would have done this sooner or later.

her husband is wacked by his head!!

Aana free, jaana free,

Pakde gaye tho khana free.