It's a new beginning and a new era. Congratulations to Egyptians for a new successful revolution. All the new democracies and the common man all over the world are proud of you.
I'm proud to be witnessing this great moment in the history of world.
"On Saturday, President Barack Obama condemned the violence, and said the United States was not working with any particular party or group in Egypt.
"Washington has not condemned the military takeover or called it a coup, prompting suspicion within the Brotherhood that it tacitly supports the overthrow of the country's first freely elected president."
Laughable...US and UK before them were in bed with the Brotherhood and bought them into power as the MB leaders are known pragmatists (i.e Islamists without the Islam).
However, the US has abandoned them (surprise surprise!) to maintain her interests.
I was feeling a little down today, but then heard this joke on the BBC..
Apparently, the army leaders in Egypt who said they want an inclusive government just appointed Mohammed El Baradei as interim PM. El Baradei is ofcourse the person who detests the MB and is a lckey of the West..
It's not just about Islamic parties. Any religious party should be banned from politics, anywhere in the World. Every time any religion interferes with politics, something bad happens.
Simply, politics is just bad enough by itself...
But it has nothing to do with this situation in Egypt. This is all America's mess again, right from the start, as always.
Bluebull you really are out of your mind. If democracy means people with religious affiliations should not come to power, then you need to look into your own country first before commenting on others. ELse it is just your anti muslim bias thats coming out.
Seems the Americans were in contact with the general sisi for many days before the coup. Why?
US was worried that its interests were at stake when the demonstrations against morsi began since these protestors are aware of the American links to the brotherhood whom the us supported in getting to power.
Hence the intervention was necessary to maintain the US interests by sacrificing the brotherhood.
If Egybt is striving to be a real democracy than religion based political parties like Muslim Brotherhood should have no place in the government. Democracy and Secularism should go hand in hand. You cannot have a Religious Democracy.
One reason could be that the Army and its top leaders has fingers in many businesses. Some estimates say that armed forces personnel own 30% stake in the economy. If the economy is down, they suffer..
I m not sure if the latest arrests will be taken lightly by the MB members. They have been invited to be a part of nation building but that's just a cruel joke on them.Imagine them being thrown out of power which they got after 80 Years of struggle and now they are being invited to take part in elections!! Why were they not given a chance to nominate someone other than Mursi for the top job? Was it a farce to get rid of the MB influence in the country's culture and day to day running?
One good outcome of this unrest is definitely the fact that Egybt will no longer become another Saudi. Other than that,I don't see any benefits for the common people in the near future.
AFP is reporting that the Egyptian police has orders to arrest 300 leaders and members of Mohamed Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood. This comes after security forces arrested two senior Brotherhood leaders close to Mr Morsi:
US president Barack Obama has made his first comments since Mohamed Morsi was ousted.
In a written statement, Mr Obama expressed deep concern about Egypt's removal of Mr Morsi and called for a swift return to a democratically elected civilian government. He urged the Egyptian military to avoid any arbitrary arrests of Mr Morsi and his supporters.
There will not be any latest news..as they have closed Pro newspapers and media which is of course the worse dictatorship ever... if they think its people choice they should not have close any such media..
It is sad to see the GCC most populous country in crisis again..
i think it was a good move for many reasons , 1) havent noticed any minor/major changes that was done by mursi. 2)last few days brotherhood was leading country into a bloody religious was ex: 4 muslims Shia who died 3 days ago. 3)having to deal with problems that was there before petrol , electricty & water. not to mention that prices even went higher. if mursi was left to finish his remaining years we would only have a new dectator protected with a more organized/stronger brotherhood.not to mention from the very begining choosing mursi was only because people didnt have much of a choice , its either go with ahmed shafik who was part of old regime or mursi
How could u judge a democracy which is just one year old? Moroever did u give any time for the president to solve the problems at peace? They wanted everything in such a short span. Protests were there througout the year, though with varying magnitudes..How could u revive the economy within a year with all those internal mess?
Anyway, good luck to Egyptians. But still I would say, they should have a bit more patient...
One funny thing is that Morsi's victory was more stronger than Bush and Ca-moron.. giving 48 hours to meet people demand was something irrational..opposition has bought military..military has its own interests (ego) cuz of reshuffle of top commanders by Morsi.. The current interim dictator has strong roots linked with Hosni..
The difference is that the US and UK are mature democracies where the people realise that they cannot go against democratic norms and get rid of a leader just because he/she is not popular. They realise that democracy means allowing the full term in most cases and removal of a leader / party in power through elections called by the leader or party - not in cahouts with the army who are power hungry anyway.
Brit....in Egypt it is people and army together not just the army. Moreover, the statistics about Bush and Cameron is based on surveys. Here we have the people themselves out there expressing themselves. Quite a difference I guess.
Bush was elected and then his popularity level descended to 21%. Similar with Ca-moron. It did not mean that the army moved in and got rid of an elected president..
I guess that a part of the 51% people who voted for the now defunct govt were also part of this agitation against Morsi. So as of yesterday he didnt had 51% voters support. And going by the reports what he was doing wasn't what was the expectation of the people from the last revolution. Whether it is bad or good only time will tell and hope it is for the good. Also hope the people know how to achieve what they expect. IMHO it should be a lesson for the democracies and the people elsewhere that no nonsense would be tolerated and while at it I hope Indians are taking note of it & atleast now would get up to atleast do 1% of what happened in Egypt for the good of themselves and the country.
I am feeling bad, As an Arab and from a neighbor country, I am ashamed to say that i have a Heartbreak tear on my eye for what is happening right there.
Why they like to have a closed mouths?
I heard a lot of Criticism to mursi and he took no actions, while who was saying the word Mubarak in the past, was sent to a place behind the sun?
This is a military coup more than anything else and a sad day for Egypt where a portion of the population feels that it has been treated unjustly and this does not sound good for coexistence among the Egyptians and it was very clumsy on behalf of the pope to take this stand against Muslims . This is creates religious differences and animosity that Copts do not need . There is great instability that will result from all this .
Brite - There's a ROADMAP. Morsi was a tiny speck.Good he go cleaned. Hopefully Egybtians will learn what democracy is in next 40-45 years. And then we can have a free and fair election. Not just based on Religion like the last one.
As crowds across the country were just warming up for the historic protests, around midday on 30 June, reports from Cairo appearing on Western broadcast and online news outlets focused on projecting an image of “polarization.” Rallies opposing the Muslim Brotherhood were represented as being balanced out, and in some cases even outnumbered, by the demonstration in favor of President Mohamed Morsi. The likelihood of violent clashes were carefully embedded within the news as a main characteristic of the current political situation in Egypt.
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I wonder if the Egyptian are also happy now?
Baradei got what he wanted from the beginning, and i don't know if he has any information about DEMOCRACY.
Happy Ending ,, literally
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/07/us-egypt-protests-idUSBRE95Q0NO20130707
"On Saturday, President Barack Obama condemned the violence, and said the United States was not working with any particular party or group in Egypt.
"Washington has not condemned the military takeover or called it a coup, prompting suspicion within the Brotherhood that it tacitly supports the overthrow of the country's first freely elected president."
Laughable...US and UK before them were in bed with the Brotherhood and bought them into power as the MB leaders are known pragmatists (i.e Islamists without the Islam).
However, the US has abandoned them (surprise surprise!) to maintain her interests.
Stealth - You are totally out of your mind.You don't know what you are talking about.
Egybtians are out on the street again. A few dozens killed since Friday.
He's a rat and will do anything to keep the army and his masters happy.
brit, It was like a slap on the face, Baradei as a Prime damn minister!!!
I don't know if i have to be shocked or not anymore !!
I was feeling a little down today, but then heard this joke on the BBC..
Apparently, the army leaders in Egypt who said they want an inclusive government just appointed Mohammed El Baradei as interim PM. El Baradei is ofcourse the person who detests the MB and is a lckey of the West..
I'm still laughing out loud...
and then suppress half the population that doesnt support you. That will make the rest of the world happy.
The answer is simple..
Put in a President sympathetic to the Army and willing to follow their orders.
I like the new Egyptian Democracy
After kicking the president A55
1- Shutting the mouths of the preachers.
2- Close the pro-channels.
3- Arresting the pro-people everywhere.
Where are you going Egypt ?
Bob - take any democratic setup in the world. YOu will find most of the parties binded by religious affiliation.
you are on the right side ... (Y)
It's not just about Islamic parties. Any religious party should be banned from politics, anywhere in the World. Every time any religion interferes with politics, something bad happens.
Simply, politics is just bad enough by itself...
But it has nothing to do with this situation in Egypt. This is all America's mess again, right from the start, as always.
Bluebull you really are out of your mind. If democracy means people with religious affiliations should not come to power, then you need to look into your own country first before commenting on others. ELse it is just your anti muslim bias thats coming out.
Seems the Americans were in contact with the general sisi for many days before the coup. Why?
US was worried that its interests were at stake when the demonstrations against morsi began since these protestors are aware of the American links to the brotherhood whom the us supported in getting to power.
Hence the intervention was necessary to maintain the US interests by sacrificing the brotherhood.
So why not just come out and say that Islamic parties must not fight elections - simple.
If Egybt is striving to be a real democracy than religion based political parties like Muslim Brotherhood should have no place in the government. Democracy and Secularism should go hand in hand. You cannot have a Religious Democracy.
The MB is being "dismantled" so that it cannot fight in the next election..
Why did the Army do this ?
One reason could be that the Army and its top leaders has fingers in many businesses. Some estimates say that armed forces personnel own 30% stake in the economy. If the economy is down, they suffer..
I m not sure if the latest arrests will be taken lightly by the MB members. They have been invited to be a part of nation building but that's just a cruel joke on them.Imagine them being thrown out of power which they got after 80 Years of struggle and now they are being invited to take part in elections!! Why were they not given a chance to nominate someone other than Mursi for the top job? Was it a farce to get rid of the MB influence in the country's culture and day to day running?
One good outcome of this unrest is definitely the fact that Egybt will no longer become another Saudi. Other than that,I don't see any benefits for the common people in the near future.
Certainly...the sun will rise from the opposite direction
Why exactly in a free society which craves democracy have the leaders of a party been arrested ?
When will they put Indian version of our Italian Cleopatra (Sonia Gandhi) behind the bars?
Obama :O)
Obama is a good guy. He cares for Egybtian people. With all his heart. Just like he cares for Afghans ;)
AFP is reporting that the Egyptian police has orders to arrest 300 leaders and members of Mohamed Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood. This comes after security forces arrested two senior Brotherhood leaders close to Mr Morsi:
US president Barack Obama has made his first comments since Mohamed Morsi was ousted.
In a written statement, Mr Obama expressed deep concern about Egypt's removal of Mr Morsi and called for a swift return to a democratically elected civilian government. He urged the Egyptian military to avoid any arbitrary arrests of Mr Morsi and his supporters.
The protesters deserve a Military government with all the "freedoms" it brings :O)
Religion and Politics are intertwined.
remember democracy is only for the liberals. If you are religious democracy is not meant for you. That seems to be the concept of many posters here.
There will not be any latest news..as they have closed Pro newspapers and media which is of course the worse dictatorship ever... if they think its people choice they should not have close any such media..
It is sad to see the GCC most populous country in crisis again..
I hope people will refrain from voilence. Is there any latest news.
rannouch ,, Really?!
What was in the TV yesterday is a pity
I m worried for the future of this great country.
tank yoo my flind
MR Sulieman we are not a nation to be pity for you have to know whom you are talking about.
Yes I second Lonius..
They have found one in Mohammed barely-a-day
Thelonius,,, pharao will not be habby :O(
i think it was a good move for many reasons , 1) havent noticed any minor/major changes that was done by mursi. 2)last few days brotherhood was leading country into a bloody religious was ex: 4 muslims Shia who died 3 days ago. 3)having to deal with problems that was there before petrol , electricty & water. not to mention that prices even went higher. if mursi was left to finish his remaining years we would only have a new dectator protected with a more organized/stronger brotherhood.not to mention from the very begining choosing mursi was only because people didnt have much of a choice , its either go with ahmed shafik who was part of old regime or mursi
He should be just glad for his life that he's still alive and wasn't put up against a wall and shot.
You get rid of an elected government and then you want calm ?
Endia? hmmmmm .......ok
Patience is a virtue and very hard to come by these days.
I'm just hoping that both parties maintain calm and exercise restraint to prevent this country of Pharaos betting into chaos.
If it rained freedom .. Some slaves will be carrying umbrellas.
U said it britexpat..
Mature democracy..
How could u judge a democracy which is just one year old? Moroever did u give any time for the president to solve the problems at peace? They wanted everything in such a short span. Protests were there througout the year, though with varying magnitudes..How could u revive the economy within a year with all those internal mess?
Anyway, good luck to Egyptians. But still I would say, they should have a bit more patient...
To cap it all Mohhamed El Baradai is a poodle who does his master's bidding..
Good luck Egypt.. You deserve all you get ..
well said Sulieman! They are acting like robots, they are going towards darkness.
One funny thing is that Morsi's victory was more stronger than Bush and Ca-moron.. giving 48 hours to meet people demand was something irrational..opposition has bought military..military has its own interests (ego) cuz of reshuffle of top commanders by Morsi.. The current interim dictator has strong roots linked with Hosni..
The difference is that the US and UK are mature democracies where the people realise that they cannot go against democratic norms and get rid of a leader just because he/she is not popular. They realise that democracy means allowing the full term in most cases and removal of a leader / party in power through elections called by the leader or party - not in cahouts with the army who are power hungry anyway.
Let the world see.. future is uncertain...more corruption..more bloodshed...economy will deteriorate...
Cleopatra will be so proud of you all! :)
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I don't see how this is a victory for democracy in Egypt.
It was the Egyptian people that voted in the president, and now the mob demands his overthrow?
And to make things even worse big brother's untrustworthy friend “The military " steps in and dumps the president!
This is exactly the sort of situation that first world's Framers wanted to avoid when they laid down their Constitutions.
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Brit....in Egypt it is people and army together not just the army. Moreover, the statistics about Bush and Cameron is based on surveys. Here we have the people themselves out there expressing themselves. Quite a difference I guess.
Bush was elected and then his popularity level descended to 21%. Similar with Ca-moron. It did not mean that the army moved in and got rid of an elected president..
I guess that a part of the 51% people who voted for the now defunct govt were also part of this agitation against Morsi. So as of yesterday he didnt had 51% voters support. And going by the reports what he was doing wasn't what was the expectation of the people from the last revolution. Whether it is bad or good only time will tell and hope it is for the good. Also hope the people know how to achieve what they expect. IMHO it should be a lesson for the democracies and the people elsewhere that no nonsense would be tolerated and while at it I hope Indians are taking note of it & atleast now would get up to atleast do 1% of what happened in Egypt for the good of themselves and the country.
The paradox is that liberals are celebrating a coup by the military..
that was barbar action....
it was a coup. MB won in the elections fair and square. Did they give him time to govern? No. Will the country improve ? Doubtful.
All the problems they have will remain irrespective of who comes to power.
Now they have also taken off pro Mursi channels, slapped a travel ban on his party members.
One cannot use excuses such as "choosing the lesser of two evils" to usurp democracy.
The simple fact is that it is a coup and the beneficiaries are the Generals and a pro American puppet ...
I wonder what people would say if the British Army stepped in to get rid of Clegg and installed Miliband ?
QL's own Happyhappy is in Cairo and rejoicing right now!
Mandi
' Egypt's most senior Sunni authority, The Sheikh of al-Azhar, said on state TV the military and others had chosen the lesser of two evils.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23159066
adey ,,I will agree with you if the recent Egyptian have been changed by another.
Maybe morsi is a bad president (I don't know, he hasn't enough time to be Judged) but the people are worse.
I am feeling bad, As an Arab and from a neighbor country, I am ashamed to say that i have a Heartbreak tear on my eye for what is happening right there.
Why they like to have a closed mouths?
I heard a lot of Criticism to mursi and he took no actions, while who was saying the word Mubarak in the past, was sent to a place behind the sun?
I believe the 2nd Egyptian Revolution was due to the fact that the first was hijacked then Mursi hijacked the democratic process and ideals.
Well done Egypt
US will cut off his aid to egypt if it is a military coup..
Egypt ,, Home Of Movies
I think if Mursi said on public now, I will give every Egyptian 100$, they will shout to get him back.
What a mess, what a pity, what a shame!
Egypt is going to be the next Algeria (1192) AJ Live
Democracy is fragile, no parliamentary decisions..this is a military coup.. 51% of the people who elected him is not important..
This is a military coup more than anything else and a sad day for Egypt where a portion of the population feels that it has been treated unjustly and this does not sound good for coexistence among the Egyptians and it was very clumsy on behalf of the pope to take this stand against Muslims . This is creates religious differences and animosity that Copts do not need . There is great instability that will result from all this .
Revolution needs blood. Its a fact!
doing 'revolutions' too often can't be good. if it's polarizing the population it will lead to more conflict in the future.
Brite - There's a ROADMAP. Morsi was a tiny speck.Good he go cleaned. Hopefully Egybtians will learn what democracy is in next 40-45 years. And then we can have a free and fair election. Not just based on Religion like the last one.
You are proud that a democratically elected leader was removed by force ?
Egyptians should be ashamed of themselves
Who is Adli Mansour?
Now he will lead the country as it's new President.
SF - Any outcome is better and graceful than Morsi.
It was a 50/50 outcome and that was never a good thing.
Stuffed I am afraid. Sad news.
As crowds across the country were just warming up for the historic protests, around midday on 30 June, reports from Cairo appearing on Western broadcast and online news outlets focused on projecting an image of “polarization.” Rallies opposing the Muslim Brotherhood were represented as being balanced out, and in some cases even outnumbered, by the demonstration in favor of President Mohamed Morsi. The likelihood of violent clashes were carefully embedded within the news as a main characteristic of the current political situation in Egypt.
Western media coverage of the massive waves of protests in Egypt over the past two days is revealing of a number of problems that plague knowledge production about the Arab world.