A center in Qatar to "cure" homosexuality????

Like BritExpat rightly says..One up the bum no harm done!..:)

My slant on this is that the expert psychologist could help the family realise that at the end of the day, the gay person is their flesh and blood and perhaps help them out of denial and towards acceptance.

Many people who have reconciled their sexuality with their religion or social life and what have you don't really care about what homophobes say or believe in. They don't live for them. They don't care whether they understand what the word GAY means, beyond the sexual context, or not. They understand that those homophobes not only do they fear the word gay, but also fear the chance that if they actually talk with some gay people they will find out that some of them are really good people inside.

Homophobes don't have the ability to look into a person's heart or exert an effort to learn a person or respect the differences. They are often quick to judge, hate and verbally abuse or sometimes physically abuse gay people. They often have "smart" comments and a remedy for homosexuality when the science itself doesn't know a single cause for homosexuality, but homophobes do.

Mind you that some of those homophobes are the same ones that would have atheist friends, whom they might take out to dinner or a party. (Atheism and homosexuality are both prohibited in Islam) but for those homophobes, it is probably ok to walk with an atheist and accept his differences and not walk with a gay man or a woman. Can you spell hypocrisy ? Some of the homophobes engage in pre-marital sex in when it is not allowed in their religion. Some of them were partying and drinking during the new years eve when Gaza was being massacred. You would think that they would care enough about their "brothers and sisters" or even donating some money, but no.. they are too hypocritical to do any good deeds in their lives. They'd rather find a gay man or a gay woman and bash them. That's more fun to do for them.

And at the end they expect the world to listen to their hateful stupid opinions when they start quoting God or Mohammed (PBUH) and start telling people what is right and what is wrong. TELL YOURSELF BEFORE YOU TELL ME.

straights do bend sometimes.. they call it doggy style!!!

very interesting comment!

I do feel upset when people are so homophobic.....

It must be so bad for your self-esteem coping with your sexuality and then a load of aggressive/ignorant homophobes wade in....

and straight is not!

would be interesting to see how people are gonna answer these two questions!!

Gay is to be happy....

What is gay ?

What is straight?

Uk ...is there a clinic for more than one wife?

To loose a wife or to gain a wife?...lol

lol flan..:)

i heard the therapy includes a handbag fight.

britexpat: it would make sense to me that the "needs" of the gay individual would trump the needs of the family in many cases. If the family can learn to accept a gay offspring, then, of course, all efforts should be made to come to some sort of common ground. However, not all families are willing to accept a gay member and therefore is could be dangerous to get the parents involved.

the families would run counter to protecting the client or patient. What do you do when the family itself is the risk?

Sadly, the same is occurring in the UK.. Social workers "put the needs of the child first" and don't always involve the parents.

Parents must be informed and involved in any issues their child is facing.

Genesis, good that people have realized that help is needed. But how can all that work if the family is not involved? I think that some of the problems may result from the family environment. Anyway, i wish them the best of luck.

wow this place is becoming more and moe interesting every day..:)

What about a clinic for people with more than one wife. Now that is quite unnatural for me..:(

chat and social plans? So childish.

Genesis, that is an interesting bit of information. I can understand the need for providing a "rehab" center to help these people get their lives on track but still am curious about how the actual cases of homosexuality are treated in a family. One of the blokes I work with is obviously gay, but his family just arranged his wedding a few months ago. Poor chap looked like scared to death on his wedding night. There is another bloke at work from a very prominent family whose oldest daughter and son are both gay by all appearances. In their cases, it is extremely obvious to anyone who would meet them. Neither have married and their father and mother seem to not be pushing them to marry. I wonder, though, how the parents handle the questions from others.

I am also curious about what efforts are underway to educate the parents and bring them on board with a more humane way of handling these issues within the family.

Either way. Enough QL for me today.

Peace!

fcuk coffee, how about some jaeger bombs? :-P

looks like rishi is talking about coffee...

gensis: we ARE talking about homosexuality... AND coffee.

saeedkan: see Rishi's post... we will, apparently, be discussing homosexuality and calculus among animals.

can you people stop hijacking the thread

where is the mods?

saeedkan: you will have to consult Rishi Mamu about the timings. But you will also have to be willing to discuss the topic at hand. :o)

yes after evening it may could resume...again...

saeedkan: alright. You can join in the coffee too.

I like full figured women... umm bbw?? idk, damn, i'm all confused now... jaeger ice cream muffins don't go down well with me :-(

epicurean, its better, we close the discussion here..:)

we could resume it over coffee in the evening.

YMCA :-P

cameraguy: Unfortunately, I don't have any....

According to a friend who works as a social worker in one of the government's boys schools , they receive enormous cases of bullying, molestation, gang rapes, glue sniffing addiction & chewing tobacco addiction that's beyond their control. Unlike other societies , social workers here try to avoid involving the parents as much as they can. As there is no proper education or awareness in dealing with those disorders within the local community

I guess many of you by now realize that victims of molestation can be guilty in the eyes of society here.

Thus, having a social rehabilitation center here is essential

Epicurean - Ok, noted. But, wait! Kelloggs makes Special K bars, yeah?

Well anyway. I've had enough QL for today. Signing out. Ciao.

rishi: We don't find things like calculus in the animal world either. Is that an aberration as well?

Yes, I believe that preferring men over women is just like preferring blonds over brunettes. What's the difference?

epicurean, do we find homosexuality in animals as well? if yes, please put the link here.

if not, then could you please explain why this sexual preference is in human being only?

finally, can you really compare this sexual preference with other preferences like the ones you have mentioned?

cameraguy: Ok. I tried it. The absorbent nature of the cornflakes leads a degree of logistical difficulty which needs to be overcome...

rishi: I believe that some men are born preferring tall women over short women, some men prefer lighter skin over darker skin, and some men are born preferring men over women. I believe that homosexuality has existed for as long as we have writing about such things. To call it an "aberration" implies that straight people have some sort of moral monopoly on sex.

epicurean, there has to be some background or cause as to why some people turn out to gays..before refuting these analogies you should put up your take on the same..

or is it that you dont accept it as an aberration at all?

Yeah, so that's that then. All settled. But, don't close this topic yet. I'm waiting for Epicurean to return with the results of her experiment.

Is social rehabilitation center which is part of Qatar Foundation that was opened recently

http://www.src-qa.org/

Their main purpose is rehabilitation for drug addiction, sexual abuses & personality disorders

It was linked with curing homosexuality because of a "lost in translation" press release

http://66.132.241.65/Display_news.asp?section=local_news&subsection=Qatar+News&month=February2010&file=Local_News201002243753.xml

When in fact they offer support & shelter for homosexuals who've been outcast by their families

Sometimes the two together can be a good thing. I think I still have some cornflakes. Lemme try it... brb

It's a fine line between pleasure and pain ;)

hmmm

cameraguy: masturbation with cornflakes? Sounds painful...

Harvey Kellogg tried it with cornflakes. Oh wait! that was for masturbation. Maybe these guys should try camel milk.

hehehe!! No sweat.

updated---wrong post due to problems in connection

lol no

wrong post

my apology

one_shot: what are you asking me? Am I hooking you up with someone?

never heard of any news like that...

If it's not expressly outlawed, the default is legality, no?

is it legal?

lol britexpat!

I'vw always wanted to be trapped in a woman's body :o)

one_shot: legalize gayness? When as it outlawed?

woman trapped in man's body?

hmmmm

that means it is also a disease :P

well one shot as my gay friend put it, imagine being a woman trap in a man's body? it can be your worst nightmare hahaha

hehe

Is it another thread to legalize gayness ?

Rishimba: was this literature written by the Homophobia Association of Ignorance?

Epicurean...in that case, I stand corrected.

i totally agree with ruby, after getting mature enough, they still think of not being straight and like to be homosexual then, they should be given respect from their families, friends, the society...

having gone through some literatures on homosexuality, i have inferred that this aberration may be catagorised, either physiological - related to the hormones and psycological - caused by suppression of sexual urge.

its evident that hormone related irregularities cannot be treated by drugs. we need to accept the sexual orientation of the person and get along.

on the other hand, if the natural instincts are abnormally suppressed, they tend to surface in a distorted way and the result is homosexuality, weird sexual fetish, sadistic approach to sex etc.

this probably can be cured by rehab environments and councelling.

i may be incorrect, but, thats what i understood.

Khattak: drug addiction and alcoholism are considered diseases.

if it helps them come to terms with who they really are then nothing wrong with that. sometimes young people are very impressionable and might have some struggle in finding their true identity. if at the end they find themselves and realize whether they are straight or not then hope their families will just learn to accept them for who they are and love them just the same.

Using drugs is not a disease but we send the addicts to rehab.

And since when is homosexuality a disease or sickness which can be cured? There is NO CURE!!! You will be far happier accepting that fact and moving on with life.

Live and let live!!!

I dont see anything wrong in that, if its true.

I think you are talking about NARTH.... See link..

http://www.narth.com/

Good luck. I hope you find a cure...