THE BEAUTIFUL CORNICHE

QFire
By QFire

It's a real shame that eth Corniche, one of the few places of interst in Qatar, is being ruined by the unsightly discharge of smelly water into the sea.

Even if was really harmless discolored water, it looks bad. No matter what you do, visiotrs from the world over will see the unsightly discharge of water into the bay which could be an area of beauty for Qatar to show off.

Visitors may also think, "Hey if they don't care about their front yard, imagine what their back yard is like!"

Its been like this for about 7 months. Actually I first noticed it when my girl friend came to visit in december last year. Then it was only intermittent.

As a visitor I can't help wonder why the local authorities have allowed it to continue for so long or shouldn't I care if they don't? True my concern may be selfish in that I don't like breathing in the smell when I run past it on my regular runs.

What do you think about it?

By anonymous• 30 Oct 2008 23:52
anonymous

Kanan

Thank you for the details, but I got a question for you, since you are on that field.

Do the Government of Qatar have sewage process plants?

“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

By nomad_08• 30 Oct 2008 22:57
nomad_08

it certainly doesnt smell...i was at the corniche this afternoon, saw the water flowing out of the drain...no smell my friend...

By QFire• 30 Oct 2008 22:38
QFire

Nor what my buddy and I experienced

PK

By tallg• 30 Oct 2008 11:57
tallg

QFire - I think several people have now confirmed that the water being discharged is from the water table, and that's it's safe, and that it doesn't smell!

By baldrick2dogs• 30 Oct 2008 11:37
baldrick2dogs

At least in Kuwait they pumped it 1 mile offshore before it discharged ....

Did you Google it first?

By QFire• 30 Oct 2008 11:33
QFire

Okay to discharge at the Corniche for everyone to see, and okay to smell and okay for the fishies?

I guess it would be too expensive to divert it somewhere else. Who could afford that? Can't even afford to replace the broken tiles at the Sheraton end.

PK

By GodFather.• 30 Oct 2008 07:04
GodFather.

The Groundwater is not harmful. funny enough I would say it more safer than the Seawater as it is not so saltly.

So as everyone explained above that the discharge of Groundwater into the Sea in quite OK.

Just to inform those who dont know already. Our Sewege is a comodotiy in this part of the world. It is too expensive to be discharged into the sea. So the question is where does it go. Well the sewage or dirty water is normaly pumped to the Sewage Treatment plants where it is treated to a level and then it is pumped back into mains or even stored in high water towers (has anyone ever wondered why smelly roundabout is called smelly because the TSE treated Sewage was stored in the tower there)to be supplied to the irrigation network in and around Doha.

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By QFire• 30 Oct 2008 06:54
QFire

construction sites. Imagine yourself a fish and suddenly find yourself swimming around in that "water from the water table". Would you be happy?

PK

By yano_08• 29 Oct 2008 13:27
yano_08

just my 2 cents..

By britexpat• 29 Oct 2008 13:21
britexpat

Great explanation... Thanks

By draj• 29 Oct 2008 13:09
draj

really these days one cannot have a walk because of very bad smell coming from black sea water all over corniche... a big shame to QATAR's best place...

By GodFather.• 29 Oct 2008 12:53
Rating: 4/5
GodFather.

The Area that is the smell part of the Corniches is between marker post 4.5Km and 5.2Km (if you ever see these marker posts on the slabs along the seawall.

In this Area there is a very Bad smell. Not a lot of people walk along this stretch, or even park there.. The PArking along this Stretch is almost emepty.. To be more specific this is the area opposite the Fanar building. After observing this area and try to understand why there is a smell here I can only say that this part is stagnent water and that may be one of the reasons.

Because the Road leading fishing Harbour is stopping the water to flow either side.

So QFire you are correct there is a smell near the Fishing harbour Area and every one else is correct in saying that the dischanrge into the Sea at the Corniche is the water Ground whic has to be pumped out to keep the water table low to faciliatate the high rise developments in west bay..

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HE WHO DARES WINS

By yano_08• 29 Oct 2008 12:32
Rating: 4/5
yano_08

i agree on the statement that the discharge were from excavated buidling foundations... however, it being discharged at the center of corniche is puzzling to some..

i think they are simply using an existing drainage tapping point instead of building a new one.

just imagine the traffic havoc to be created by digging the roads in order to lay those drainage pipe that will lead elsewhere away from corniche..

we all know how tight Doha roads were... so, i guess there is not much option but to use the existing drainages lines.

folks, i suggest you get near the filtering/sand trap boxes of this ground water pumping stations... and try to smell the water ... they do stink! why did it stink??

That is beacuse of the common practice of "SOAK AWAYS"

these are pits dug on the ground where surface water discharges are drained... eventually finding its way and mixing with the ground water. Of course, there may be soiled water also drained thru this way... so, the concentration of pollutants eventually causes stinky shallow ground water..

well, what do you expect from shallow ground water?? they are not potable at all and not really that clean. So even if they were clean to the sight, they do still smell stinky.

for those who say that the building are floating on ground water... are not properly informed. the ground formations comprises of lime stone that are porous that hold water in them. think about our muscles with veins passing all throughout carrying blood... it goes the same with limestones. there are various ways to make a building stable... tall buildings requires piles drilled deeper so as to stand on more solid stratum...

ask the geological and structural engineers if you want to know more...

By x_albhertz• 29 Oct 2008 12:06
x_albhertz

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By QFire• 29 Oct 2008 12:01
QFire

It definitely smelled. Once it smelled like rotten eggs (ask my buddy SK) and recently it has a waste solvent smell.

Thanks also to baldrick for getting to within 2m proximity of the discharge.

PK

By King Edshel• 29 Oct 2008 09:38
King Edshel

the same, how come they get rid of that smelly whatever water in the sea? It ruins the view, spoils the sea and of course ... passing by that point is not a pleasant experience ...

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)

By tallg• 29 Oct 2008 08:44
tallg

I'd still be interested to read one reason why water from the water table shouldn't be put back into the sea.

Khanan's given me good reason to believe that it's fine to do it and that the water is tested as well, but so far those who say it shouldn't be haven't provided any proof or facts. Come on guys - convince me you're right!

By nomad_08• 29 Oct 2008 08:44
nomad_08

the water coming out of the drain is foamy but like what baldrick said no smell at all...the stinking smell you guys are referring to is probably the smell of the 'water' (aka fertilizer) they use for the greens around the corniche area...

By Sandman77• 29 Oct 2008 08:32
Sandman77

Sure I also belive (and have seen) that the water is from digging the foundations f these new buildings, but I also know for a FACT that there is no such "inspection" being enforced. Those involved couldnt give two hoots about a smelly corniche when they think of the millions they'll be making from those towers. You expect them to stop and think, "oh no, we can't dump this crap into the sea! It'll kill all the fish! Qiuck lets pay extra thousands to recycle it or dump it somewhere else!" Yeah right, lets not be THAT naive please.

War...War never changes...

By baldrick2dogs• 29 Oct 2008 08:32
Rating: 2/5
baldrick2dogs

I stood directly over the discharge point (As in 2m max) with Akronica and Nomad. - there was no smell at all.

We had a similar problem on my site disposing of water we took out of the ground. We sent samples to SCENR to prove the quality of the ground water was good enough to put back into the ground!!!

Did you Google it first?

By Intelligent• 29 Oct 2008 08:32
Intelligent

Its definetly not drainaige water but pumping or discharging ground water in the middle of corniche is not right.

Authorities should come up with some other location or solution to overcome peoples concerns.

Regards,

By tallg• 29 Oct 2008 08:20
tallg

I don't follow why the water table shouldn't be discharged back into the sea. What's wrong with the water?

By QFire• 29 Oct 2008 08:05
QFire

It gets pretty windy at the Corniche so you don't alwys smell it.

I do know of the problem with the high water table but my point is, It should not be discharged into the sea at the Corniche. That's like disposing of your garbage in your living room or at your front door!

I'm very concerned also about the quality checks. My experience in Qatar is that whilst a lot of knowledge is available that procedures refer to, they are very rarely applied. Hence the poor quality buidlings.

It's a worry. It should be removed and pumped somewhere else.

PK

By britexpat• 29 Oct 2008 07:31
britexpat

I've seen the "discharge" into the sea. I don't believe its sewage water. It loked too clean and didn't smell bad.

By tallg• 29 Oct 2008 07:29
tallg

The ground the buildings are built on is perfectly stable - it isn't floating on water! The water table just permeates through the rock.

The reclaimed land could be a different matter though!

By anonymous• 29 Oct 2008 00:11
anonymous

You build your city of rock and roll.

I wonder, If all those tall building are really sinking or shifting from their foundations, slowly but surely.

Specially the ones build on reclaim land from the ocean.

“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

By baldrick2dogs• 28 Oct 2008 15:49
baldrick2dogs

RP, Go into the desert and dig down 3-4m - you WILL hit water!

Did you Google it first?

By tallg• 28 Oct 2008 15:33
tallg

Tut-tut RP. So rude yet so uninformed.

Thanks for clarifying Khanan. It's good to have an expert come along and confirm what this "naive" poster thought was right.

RP - have you really not seen the big holes full of water, and the huge mass of blue pipes running out them?

By Khanan• 28 Oct 2008 14:29
Khanan

its not theory..it is like that...the water table in these area is really high...

I am in one of the dept. reponsible for the review of Quality of discharged water and the connection point into the system.

The Blue flexible pipes sometimes you see on the roads are the one use to carry the discharged water into the connection point from where it gravitates into the sea.

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Have Courage To Live.

Anyone Can Die.

By tallg• 28 Oct 2008 14:05
tallg

RP - so why do you think the holes they dig for building foundations always fill with water? That's why they are constantly pumping it out until the foundation walls are laid.

By anonymous• 28 Oct 2008 14:00
anonymous

You actually believe that? Where do you got the information?

What are you telling me, that all those tall building are just sitting in top of some kind of water table, like a modern day era and the city of Venice?

Give me a break with your theory. Sounds good in words, but in practicality, I doubt it.

Respectfully

“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

By Khanan• 28 Oct 2008 13:54
Rating: 5/5
Khanan

is not waste water..its the ground water pumped into the sea and the quality of the water is tested and examined before it is dumped into the sea.

The ground water is the result of the deep excavation for high rise building in around Doha including as far from Sadd and Bin Mahmoud Area.

The water discharge into the sea are tested and have to pass through alot of departmental approvals prior to its discharge into the sea. and During the rainy seasons, storm rain off is also included in the Drainage System.

____________________________________________________

Have Courage To Live.

Anyone Can Die.

By svelte_saggi• 28 Oct 2008 13:52
svelte_saggi

huh?what happened to pope?

Keep smiling!

Saggi!

By tallg• 28 Oct 2008 13:50
tallg

?

By anonymous• 28 Oct 2008 13:48
Rating: 5/5
anonymous

Don't be so naive about the ocean tide.

It would be real interesting to read, If you write an article on 'Raw Sewage being discharge in the Corniche.'

Probably, you will win the Pulitzer price for the best kept secret and whistle blower story of Qatar.

I'm Counting on you buddy for the truth to come out with your story.

“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”

By svelte_saggi• 28 Oct 2008 13:35
svelte_saggi

unfortunately,our IT dept has blocked all photo-sharing and file sharing sites!boohoo! :'(

Keep smiling!

Saggi!

By who.am.i• 28 Oct 2008 13:27
who.am.i

try to submit the pictures at photobucket.com

and get the html code. do you have photobucket account?

cheers,

paul

By who.am.i• 28 Oct 2008 13:25
who.am.i

i don't think the water being

discharged is filthy.. is it?

cheers,

paul

By svelte_saggi• 28 Oct 2008 13:20
svelte_saggi

i tried posting them....they don't seem to have got attached....HALP!can u tell me how to attach pics alongwith the replies?

Keep smiling!

Saggi!

By tallg• 28 Oct 2008 13:18
tallg

Maybe we're talking about different things then. Where are the pics svelte_saggi?

By svelte_saggi• 28 Oct 2008 13:16
svelte_saggi

i clicked these pics at the Corniche a few months ago....pathetic,i say!

Keep smiling!

Saggi!

By baldrick2dogs• 28 Oct 2008 13:12
baldrick2dogs

It happened twice in 15 minutes when we did a photo shot there. Looked more like man made than an overflowing water table to me.

Did you Google it first?

By tallg• 28 Oct 2008 13:07
tallg

I thought the water being discharged into the bay at the Corniche was just overflow from the natural water table. They do it every now and then to stop flooding further in land. At least that's what a Qatari chap told me once.

By QFire• 28 Oct 2008 12:57
QFire

PK

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