Bad news for ladies. Polygamy is the solution

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By KellysHeroes

Having an extra wife may lead to a longer life.

Research suggests that men from polygamist cultures live 12 per cent longer than those who limit their affections to one woman at a time.

It is thought men benefit from having a fuss made over them by a gaggle of women.
They may also better care of themselves into old age when they have a large family to feed, this week's New Scientist reports.

Sheffield University researchers uncovered the 'benefits' of polygamy by scrutinising World Health Organisation data on marriage practices and on life span.

The analysis shows that men who live in countries where it is common to have more than one wife tend to outlive their monogamous counterparts.

The finding took into account a country's economic situation to minimise the effect of better nutrition and healthcare in monogamous Western nations.

It is thought that the pressure of having to provide for a big families may lead to men taking better care of their bodies and their health. They may also benefit from the care and attention of several wives.

Lance Workman, an evolutionary psychologist at Bath Spa University, said: 'If you have got more wives to look after you, they might fuss over you and that might help you live longer.

'We know that in monogamous societies married men live longer than bachelors.'

Evolution may also have a role to play, with the fierce competition for women in polygamist societies ensuring only the fittest specimens get the girl - and have children.

Good genes would be passed on, endowing good health on future generations.

Dr Workman said: 'If you look at polygamist societies, men are quite competitive towards other men because the pressures are bigger.

'The most successful men can have four or five wives, whereas the least successful don't have any. The females go for bigger, stronger, wiser.'

In some war-like tribes, the men with the most murders on their hands command the most wives, he added.

Chris Wilson, an evolutionary anthropologist from Cornell University in the US, agreed there could be benefits to being surrounded by women in old age.

'It doesn't surprise me that men in those societies live longer than men in monogamous societies where they become widowed and have nobody to care for them,' he said.

By eu61• 15 Dec 2008 08:27
eu61

Besides the actual discussion of marry or not, and women difficulties to find a decent husband (or at least a man willing to share life).

I would like to share with you that I agree we are creating in western a sick society.

What I can see from my friends in my homecountry (married) is that prices are so high and salaries so low that both have to work. Meaning that man and woman have to work in order to get enough money home for mortgage, kids, college...

Society has arrived to a so sick situation that both man and woman have to work in order to be able to pay for a girl to babysit the kids while woman is working making worthless to raise a family as you cannot enjoy that (you go out to work while children are still sleeping and you go back home when children are at bed).

I found that some of my friends think about the issue of kids in economic terms. It is too expensive to have children, or they think they cannot afford...

This makes me think that maybe the problem, or the fact is that we are living in a too consumist society meaning that all around us is making us greedy, selfish, lazy and only looking for our own benefit.

My mother grew up in postwar years and she had to share dresses and shoes with sisters (from older to younger). They were a lot of brothers and sisters and they were not poor for those years but for sure they had very few luxuries.

And we dont want to have children 'cause if we have we will not be able to afford the 40'' flat TV screen or we dont have enough money to buy a new car each 5 years?

We are losing the priorities in life...

War looking for peace,

is like fornication looking for virginity.

By Scarlett• 15 Dec 2008 02:15
Scarlett

please don't tell me you actually FALL for that line of BS that its the "nature" of men to not be manogamous...that's the biggest lie ever! Actually its not in EITHER gender to be manogamous not just the male. Just most guys like having a good excuse to cheat....and this one fits the bill...I can just hear it now.."sorry honey, I know I was with another woman but its not MY fault..its genetic..." RIIIGHT...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 15:35
Eagley

Yeah, Thejam - When I posted that you were kidding, I actually added "or maybe you were not, as only your wife would be able to suss out if you were serious or not"... but I decided to delete that from my post.

"But she wised up after a while and understood it was not all about that.".. She wised up and learned how to manage you, you mean. She gave you a logical argument that set you thinking and making a conscious decision in her favour. Some people who see things negatively would call that "manipulating" but we all know it's "managing the situation in a proactive manner". It's a win-win situation, isn't it?

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By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 15:01
Gypsy

Again. Why I'm raising my kids on my own. I don't share.

By open2008• 14 Dec 2008 14:55
open2008

This is the nature of men in general, men tend not to be satisfied by one woman... I like this idea :) and hope to find 2 or 3 women that can accept the idea of sharing a husband.

By ilal• 14 Dec 2008 14:34
ilal

good for men

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 13:15
sag

Thejam, Im sorry but you will surely end up being a glorified maid to 4 women..

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 13:11
Thejam

The other thing is I never treat the wife like a maid, i actually cook for her and help around the house.She loves my cooking mor than her own. I think that would be another thing she would miss if she would just cry divorce,divorce.I am sure if I can treat her like a lady i can treat 2 or 3 others like ladies too and she knows it.

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 13:06
anonymous

The Royal Canadian 'MOUNTED' Police.

The Red_Pope is the next goodwill Ambassador to the UN.

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 13:04
Thejam

actually eaglemmanuel I wasn't kidding I had always been an ardent pro polygamist.Just on that occasion we were just talking about polygamy without me mentioning I want to get married again.You see before she used to put the sex factor first as if i was a sex maniac wanting to open a harem. " I cannot face my husband in bed with another woman" she used to claim.But she wised up after a while and understood it was not all about that.

I thought after that . Women, they are not stupid after all LOL.

As they say can't live with'em, can't live without 'em.

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 13:02
sag

Thats a big problem with professional wifes brit. its not easy..hmm.. I cann't.. I tried and gave up.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 13:01
britexpat

The answer is simple.. Get her to give up her job and look after her..

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 13:00
anonymous

What do you name canadian polygamist?

The Red_Pope is the next goodwill Ambassador to the UN.

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 12:58
sag

You are right em. I have a professional wife, but I wish i had a glorifide maid..

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 12:56
Eagley

The Jam - Lol! I admire your wife! Brilliant, smart and resourceful. She was first naturally upset but then was strong enough to detach from the emotional upset, accept and get over it and above all, to think rationally. She changed her frame of mind to overcome the problem. Kudos to her!

/Of course, you were kidding but it was a serious threat (to almost any woman).

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By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 12:47
Eagley

Gypsy said "Actually Brit, I meant Westerners."

Err..Actually I think men all over the world are generally similar. Gypsy, how would you take to Easterners if they are not open minded? I'm Asian and the men I have met are narrow minded and egocentric and want a wife to serve them, basically as a glorified maid - even though they swear that that's not what they really want. (NB: I'm just calling a spade a spade. I don't paint every single man with the same brush but I'm aware of the general view. I seek to find the exceptions and so far, the ones I have met, eventually admit that that's what they actually wanted, despite what they said in the beginning to try and get me to go out with them). They're still my friends, of course, nothing less but nothing more.

The Westerners I have met are preferable, but with the problem you highlighted. These are generalizations, of course but I have yet to meet the exceptions who are single and without too much emotional baggage.

/Someone told me a few months back that everyone has emotional baggage, including myself. Yes, I agree and I'm aware of them. Self awareness is always the key to change and self improvement.

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By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 12:43
Thejam

And gypsy you mentioned about"It's not just the bed the jam, it's time, money, etc".here is an anecdote of what happened between my wife and i once and it is in relation to the wife and mistress joke above. There was a time whenever I even spoke of polygamy without saying I was looking for another wife my wife used to go haywire. Before I could go further she spoke of divorce. Then one day she said something that make me think. She said" Go ahead and get married again if you want i won't stop you, actually I will be better off rather than ask for a divorce. "Even on my current salary" she said I cannot afford to pay the rent every month, send all the kids to school with all they need, bus and books and all, i cannot afford around Qr 1000 + monthly shopping every month, I cannot afford to buy, maintain a big car we have at the moment,I cannot afford to go on holiday alone let alone with the kids, I cannot afford beautiful dresses and shoes you buy everytime we go out.Even if i decide to not to work, I will be a princess in my house, with a guranteed roof over my head and being fed and clothed.satelit TV, computer 24/7 internet, telephopne bill that even I phone my mother back home, you foot the bill. So go ahead get another wife , 2 or 3.You will be paying for them, their houses, what ever you buy for me you will have to buy for them too.The burden will be on you not me.Go ahead she said make my day.Can you imagine if I ask for divorce all that will be on my back.

It makes think, and I laugh every time I think about it.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 12:16
Eagley

MR PAUL - More women want careers now,and the freedom that comes with it."

True for some but I don't think it's true of many. Most women I know in their 30s want a husband and family but because of the lack of decent single guys, we have a problem. So instead of wasting our lives waiting for the blinking star to fall, we move on and work for our living. At the end of the day, we end up being professionally capable and financially secure.

There are pros and cons to every situation. The fact that we end up being capable and financially secure, we have to look out for weak character men who see us a meal tickets or as a ladder for their professional climbs (meal ticket in another way). Also another possible con (disadvantage) is - the single men we meet are not confident of themselves, lack character, afraid that they don't measure up, etc. And they thus, don't even try .. and then whine about us confident women having high standards, when they were too coward to try.

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By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 12:10
britexpat

If you can afford it and treat them all the same, then go for it..

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 12:09
britexpat

Read my first post and check out this link..

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14564-polygamy-is-the-key-to-a-long-life.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news6_head_dn14564

By Winn• 14 Dec 2008 12:05
Winn

Like someone said here , these days you cant get a man to marry once, and polygamy...LOL!

"The analysis shows that men who live in countries where it is common to have more than one wife tend to outlive their monogamous counterparts."

Wonder whether they considered other factors like job stress, eating drinking and smoking habits etc when they started comparing longevity.

Also what would have been the objective of the research when they started their study? Like "Finding out who lives longer" "Why they live longer" or just "Comparison of lifespans"...It matters, y'know...

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 12:02
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Eagley

Thejam - "there is a time factor in there, but most women i have known would love to have the husband away from the house at least aday of the week and have time to themselves."

Oh, I absolutely agree. Being married doesn't mean living in each other's pockets all the time. Time together is important to grow together as a couple but so is time apart to grow personally / individually. Shared interests and hobbies are important but so are differing ones. It's suffocating to be together all the time.

True that some women prefer not being the only wife as long as she's the primary wife (not necessarily the 1st wife) because the husband loves and adores her but is only taking care of the other women (eg. widows, etc). works for some women. I know and read of some of the young women who are 2nd or 3rd wife but they are truly happy, which is great for them.

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By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:57
Gypsy

Well good for them THeJam. As long as every wife is in agreement to the situation I see no problem. I personally would love more then one husband, so I can have lots of attention. :)

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 11:53
Eagley

Thejam - Also i feel it is better for the women ( the wife) that even if the husband is married to another or others he is faithful to them alone.

EM - what about the other wives? I wouldn't want to share my man with any other woman, whether official or otherwise. Seriously, all hell will break loose. As for my man having affairs, he'd better have a good backup plan before he gets 6 ft under. (Oops! I'm not supposed to commit murder... ok. I'll find an alternative, since I'm resourceful).

As for "the poor wife did not know anything about it" (the affairs), God help my man if he thought he was smart enough to get away with it. Well, never know... many have tried and failed but he could be THE ONE. Lol! I've had practice with really good liars (at work and personally) so I've been well trained, you see...

As for the "advantages for the wives with polygamy" I vote for polyandry! That's the way to go. Again, I say, how nice to have options. :)

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By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:52
Thejam

To tell you the truth gypsy my wife is friends with 3 of his. She tells me more than he does.yes there is a time factor in there, but most women i have known would love to have the husband away from the house at least aday of the week and have time to themselves.One women i read about iis an author and she was a non muslim nshe was looking for a wife for her husband.That time away from him gave here more time to write her to write she claimed.

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 11:46
sag

I think the good you do to your kids and wife will outweigh the extra life you live..

By panda• 14 Dec 2008 11:46
panda

Mistress

A husband and wife were having dinner at a very fine restaurant when this absolutely stunning young woman comes over to their table, gives the husband a big kiss, tells him she'll see him later, and walks away. His wife glares at him and says, "Who was that ?"

"Oh," replies the husband, "that was my mistress."

The wife says, "That's it; I want a divorce."

"I understand," replies her husband, "but, remember, if you get a divorce, there will be no more shopping trips to Paris, no wintering in the Caribbean, no Infinity or Lexus in the garage, and no more Country Club. But the decision is yours."

Just then the wife notices a mutual friend entering the restaurant with gorgeous woman.

"Who's that woman with Jim ? " she asks. "That's his mistress," replies her husband.

"Ours is prettier," says the wife.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:44
Gypsy

Actually Brit, I meant Westerners.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:43
Gypsy

It's not just the bed the jam, it's time, money, etc. Have you really sat down and spoken to all four of his wives, or are you just listening to how he tells it?

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 11:43
britexpat

You misunderstood me :)

I was referrring to gypsy's post which said "Fine, we've created a culture of men who are incapable of having long term relationships"

By the "We've", I assumed that she meant women..

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:43
Thejam

The jealousy factor comes in more when all the women thinks about is the husband in bed with another with another woman.That I mentioned is not all in a relationship although it plays a great role. like I said my mate with 4 wives they are all extremely happy living their lives raising their families, because they do not bother themselves 24/7 worrying " my husband is in bed with another woman". i find it more successful in his work too, he delegates much of his works to his wives they get a lot of credit for much of his work. After all they say behind a successful man there is a successful women.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 11:42
Eagley

sag, generalizations are important insofar as it's used to understand or discuss a particular matter or give a particular view / opinion. As with all general rules, there are ALWAYS individual exceptions.

Britexpat - "the females are to blame for the attitude of the men.." It's true to a large extent but works both ways - men are also to blame for the attitude of women. So before anybody tries to pass the back, kindly look at one's own thoughts and actions first.

Many females are also to be credited for the positive attitude of men, in supporting them emotionally and physically (family forum, pls read between, over and under the lines) with that ability to nurture and lift their man's spirits above difficult circumstances. Having said that, many men are also capable of doing so for their woman.

Men and women are capable or nurturing or destroying others. Just depends on which side your bread is buttered, in more ways than one. ;)

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By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:41
Gypsy

I know a couple of 1st, 2nd and 3rd wives here Brit, and believe me, jealousy DOES prevail.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 11:39
britexpat

Again we are equating our norms / values to these societies. This is incorrect. Societies which allow poygamy / polyandry accept the notion of one person having multiple partners. therefore aspects like jealousy do not prevail.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:36
Gypsy

So? The jealousy is still there, it makes no difference to the wife whether he's with a mistress or another wife, it's another woman!

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:34
Thejam

No not at all Gypsy, Islamically he has to be equal to all wives.You take one on a trip this time, take the other the next.Or have them draw lots like the prophet did. At least she knows here turn is coming next and she is certain he is not cheating on her, she knows where he is and who he is with.That's the difference. i often buy nice dresses and shoes for my wife, she has her tastes and some times may not like what I like, having another wife i would end having to buy more for here since i buy for one I have to buy for the oher too, the other wife may like what that wife does not.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:32
Gypsy

I've heard the same things EM. Which is why my goal is to become financially stable enough to have and raise a child on my own.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 11:28
Eagley

Gypsy - "in the West, we've created a culture of men who are not interested, or not mature enough to get married."

I heard that from my German and Swiss male friends that it's not that they're not interested but that they are very fearful of getting married because if they make a mistake and have to divorce, it will be seriously hell to pay financially. They feel that they'd like to keep all that they have worked all their lives for - their career, position and money. They told me that the divorce rates are huge and rising so to preempt that, in their view, is to avoid getting married but they have casual relationships because they need s** without the foreseeable problems of AIDS etc. hence they go after decent women (who don't sleep around/have limited partners). So it's a loop - decent men and decent women get together but when the woman wants a commitment or a proper relationship, they cop out and simply don't get married. If the woman is willing to accept it, fine but if not, she leaves (and usually with a lot of emotional pain)

Another American guy said he values his freedom above all else and does not want the shackles of marriage. His gf is willing to go along with it. So it all depends on what an individual's values and expectations are. What is acceptable to some, are not acceptable to others. Just have to be true to oneself and don't compromise, then one will be happy.

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By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:25
Thejam

ngourlay do you know that even in the gulf there are loads of unmmaried women over the age of 40, many of them, put study and career first( nothing wrong with study and career) but by the time that was done they had become to old for marriage and was a bit late to realise that. It is very late for them now to have children and raise a family

These over aged unmarried women known as are Anoussa in arabic

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:24
Gypsy

Well the feminist movement did play a part in this Brit, I would say it's not entirely the fault of women that men refuse to grow up.

Nourglay, All the women I know want kids earlier rather then later, in fact they are looking forward to the challenge of juggling career and kids, it's the men that aren't interested in either apprantely.

TheJam, so it's better if the husband takes the other wife to the 5 star hotels? Or lies to the you because he's with the other wife?? I really don't see the difference. Another woman is another woman.

By Victory_278692• 14 Dec 2008 11:23
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Victory_278692

LONDON: Forget long walks and calorie-controlled diets, the sure shot way to live a longer life is: get a second wife.

That's the conclusion of a new research, which has suggested that men from polygamous cultures outlive those from monogamous ones.

After accounting for socioeconomic differences, men aged over 60 from 140 countries that practice polygamy to varying degrees lived on average 12% longer than men from 49 mostly monogamous nations, says Virpi Lummaa, an ecologist at the University of Sheffield, UK.

The latest research might solve a long-standing puzzle in human biology: Why do men live so long? This question only makes sense after asking the same for women, who - unlike nearly all other animals - live long past the menopause.

One answer seems to be a phenomenon called the grandmother effect. For every 10 years a woman survives past the menopause, she gains two additional grandchildren, Lummaa says.

It seems that doting on and spoiling grandchildren aids their survival, as well as furthering some of their grandmother's genes. Men, by contrast, can reproduce well into their 60s and even 70s and 80s, and most researchers assumed this explained their longevity.

But Lummaa and colleague Andy Russell wondered whether other factors explained the long lifespan of men, such as a grandfather effect. To test this possibility, the team analysed church-gathered records for 25,000 Finns from the 18th and 19th centuries.

But the grandfather effect was soon ruled out. Lummaa and Russell next wondered whether the constraints of human physiology explain male longevity. If female survival is the main explanation for male longevity, then monogamous and polygamous men would live for about the same length of time. Instead, it seems that fathering more kids with more wives leads to increased male longevity. Men, then, live long because they're fertile well into their grey years.

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 11:22
anonymous

More women want careers now,and the freedom that comes with it.

Not everybody wants kids either, theres no law saying you must have kids.

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

By tallg• 14 Dec 2008 11:21
tallg

Plenty of women have a career and kids. They aren't mutually exclusive.

By ngourlay• 14 Dec 2008 11:19
ngourlay

The prevailing western culture is anti-marriage and anti-family.

There's a generation of women in their late-30s who are beginning to realise they've been conned into believing that career is a substitute for kids. And there is a generation of men who have never grown up -- they're stuck at the age of 18.

You can make a difference Gypsy. Try convincing your friends that they should have kids earlier, and delay careers until later. You would stand little chance, I'm afraid.

By tallg• 14 Dec 2008 11:18
tallg

Of course. I wouldn't have done it if I hadn't known I'd be happy!

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:18
Thejam

Also i feel it is better for the women ( the wife) that even if the husband is married to another or others he is faithful to them alone. I know guys who were married to one wife and were having affairs on the side and the poor wife did not know anything about it.There are time he claims he was out wit the guys when he was in bed with the mistress. Did you not read about the guy on 911 whose wife called him when she heard of the buildings demolitions and so on.She got worried tried to call her husband who was romping in bed with his mistress.He said to her was at work in his office, while she was watching the buildings in flames on TV. She was surprised how could he be in his office when the building was falling apart.

know of other cases when the poor wife is at home looking after the family when the husband pretends going to a conference or meeting. He ends up taking his secretary with him.She lives it up stay in 5 star hotels, eating staeks and caviarand traveling the world while the poor wife is stuck at home thinking the hubby is in conference or a meeting somewhere.

So there are advantages for the wives with polygamy

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 11:17
britexpat

I'm glad that you've finally admitted that the females are to blame for the attitude of the men..

tallG..

However, it happened.. Hope you're happy and enjoying life..

By tallg• 14 Dec 2008 11:15
tallg

Well I wasn't interested, but then my girlfriend hatched a cunning plan whereby she got her work to offer her a placement in Qatar which was too good to refuse. The only way I could come with her was to marry her, so she's now my wife!

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:14
Gypsy

Fine, we've created a culture of men who are incapable of having long term relationships. :P

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 11:14
sag

"Marry in haste & desperation and live to regret it for the rest of your life and it might be a long life lived in misery. There are ways out but I'd rather preempt it. And I go to very great lengths for the few things that are very important to me. "

Again all pleasures and grievances cannot be generalised..

I have seen those who regretted their marriage at the beginning but found the same a valuable gift from God in later life.....

It all depends on how you tackle it..

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 11:13
anonymous

People live happily for decades and never get married

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 11:11
Eagley

Lol! "Marry an infant"... A 45 yo man could still be an infant. And yes, I do know one. Or should I say that I used to know one? Lol!

Btw, I have gone out with an "infant" before (10 years my jr) about 8 years back, but it turned out that MD's opinion of education being key to maturity didn't pan out so well in that case. Ah well... another one out that revolving door.

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By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:10
Gypsy

Ahhh Tallg, There are exceptions to the rules. i.e: happily married men. And I'm not saying that all these guys are awful, horrible men, most are my friends, I'm just saying that right now, in the West, we've created a culture of men who are not interested, or not mature enough to get married.

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 11:10
anonymous

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

By Thejam• 14 Dec 2008 11:09
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Thejam

Unfortunately most people who look at polygamy from the outside the first thing that crops in there mind is sex with more than one woman.As if the man is going to orgy with other women24/7 for the rest of his life.I have friends who have more than one wife, many as much as four and to tell you the truth there is a lot of responsibility there and if a man feels he can handle that responsibility then why not.Sex is part of a marriage, that binds it and keeps it together but it does not mean that if a man takes another wife all he would be doing is having sex 24/7. that is just part of the equation, I feel for a man who loves sex and has an appetite even if he has one wife he can be happy however she must be able to keep up and deliver the goods in the boudoir. This man who feels he can afford to have more than one wife has to bear the responsibility for looking after the wife too.If he has kids with here and so on.

People should stop looking at polygamy with blinkers on taking it as just an orgy with other women.

One thing i can tell you for sure one very good mate of mine has 4 wives. He is in his sixties and looks younger than me. I suppose it is true that in order to keep these women happy one has to look after oneself more, look better, eat healthier in order to be able to fulfill their desires because women have them too and sex is not just for men.And also you more than one women caring for your well being,making sure you look good , eat well, looking after you in times of illness and so on.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:07
Gypsy

I know several EM.

By tallg• 14 Dec 2008 11:07
tallg

Well I guess if we're all too full of BS you'll have to turn to each other. Are there lesbian equivalents of polygamy and polyandry?

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 11:04
Eagley

Britexpat - in my experience, I have not met the right man yet and I have met many. Someone asked me whether I had a revolving door once. Lol! I should be dumber and I'd be married by now. But as it stands, with my average IQ, I can still see through BS. (Can't swear on this forum, right?)

So, I've decided not to bother to look. If I meet someone, God willing, then great. If I have a family, God willing, then great. But even if I have neither, I'm still happy. In my weak moments, I have good friends to lean on and things change for the better in due course.

/Having said that, there was a stage of about a few years that I felt incomplete without a bf. Good thing I didn't make any serious mistakes during that time. That stage is long past. I'm now 90 yo. For anyone going through that stage, trust me, it passes. As with all things, they shall pass away.

Marry in haste & desperation and live to regret it for the rest of your life and it might be a long life lived in misery. There are ways out but I'd rather preempt it. And I go to very great lengths for the few things that imo are very important.

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 11:03
Gypsy

Sorry, guys can keep saying there's good men out there, but like EM said, the BS meter is FAR too high. I'm looking forward to the day I can afford to start a family on my own, not some "wedding day" when I marry an infant.

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 10:53
anonymous

"A man may fight for many things.His country,his friends,his principles,the glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child.

But personally,I'd mud wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sackful of porn."

Blackadder.

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 10:50
sag

Men with active brains live longer. Its obviously polygamous men...

By tallg• 14 Dec 2008 10:50
tallg

lol edifis - you can't compare different species!!!

Hey gypsy - we're not all bad, honest!

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 10:49
anonymous

Gypsy

Don't include me in your comment, I was the opposite way, until I discovered my new Freedom after divorcing her.

The Red_Pope is the next goodwill Ambassador to the UN.

By sag• 14 Dec 2008 10:48
sag

Poor Gypsy! I just wonder why women like Gypsy don't come across me!!

By edifis• 14 Dec 2008 10:48
edifis

Rats are polygamous. They only live for about 3 to 5 years.

Birds are generally monogamous and their lifespan is generally more than 40 years. And some monogamous birds live upto 120 years.

So the above theory is not universally correct!

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 10:46
Gypsy

I've met plenty of guys EM who SAY they want to get married (someday, in the future, when they're say 40) in that dreamy, I'll get to it someday way they have. But what they say and what they do are two entirely different things, cause these guys still run scared when faced when even the slightest hint of commitment.

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 10:41
Eagley

Really, Gypsy? IMO, it's not hard to find a guy who wants to get married. It's hard to find an intelligent, decent and emotionally stable man who wants to get married, period.

/Almost all the good ones are taken and the rest are seriously flawed.

//Having said that, some of the good ones were taken and seriously flawed by the women they married. Lol! Oops! No laughing matter, I know. (And how do I know? Cos I have lots of male and female friends and I learn from observation and their mistakes).

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 10:36
Gypsy

Ahh. Sorry lost the gist of the conversation. Yes it is. However it should be noted that this is possible because the Inuit of no concept of ownership or possession.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 10:34
britexpat

I meant that Polyandry is practiced in certain areas of the Canadian Arctic....

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 10:30
Gypsy

What's happened in Canada?

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 10:30
Eagley

Tubelight - there is "substantially more female population than male population" ... except in Qatar.

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 10:29
britexpat

Where there is a need, people will find a way..

This happens in Canada (I wonder if that's why gypsy left), Nepal and tibet.

By ngourlay• 14 Dec 2008 10:24
ngourlay

Cultural relativism -- a throwback to the empire.

You'll be telling me next that the Masai *really* do those war dances when the tourists aren't there.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 10:09
britexpat

There are societies where multiple men marry a single female.

These types of "societies" thrive, because all participants buy into their norms.

Nothing wrong with that..

By ngourlay• 14 Dec 2008 10:07
ngourlay

If it was the other way round -- with women marrying multiple men -- I'm sure the custom would soon be branded as archaic and stopped.

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 10:05
Gypsy

You're right. I'm looking in Qatar. Problem number 1. Problem number 2: I'm looking at Western men in Qatar. Problem number 3: I'm looking at Western men at all.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 10:04
britexpat

Perhaps you're looking in the wrong places or not meeting the right type of "man".

By azilana7037• 14 Dec 2008 10:01
azilana7037

should be practiced. Or else, MARRIAGE/MATRIMONY is USELESS...

If ever "my husband" would even think of POLYGAMY, either he'll find his (severed) "dicky" stuck in in his BUTT or he'll never wake up to see another day...

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 10:01
Gypsy

I find it hilarious that men would even want to marry more then one woman. It's hard enough to find a guy who wants to get married period!

By KellysHeroes• 14 Dec 2008 10:00
KellysHeroes

I am updating my list. started with a long one and it is getting shorter :D

===================================== http://www.qatarliving.com/node/58409

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 09:56
britexpat

Isn't that the sweet little girl in the book by Porter ??

By Brutus74• 14 Dec 2008 09:55
Brutus74

Polyandry really doesn't sound as bad to some of the guys as you may think. It means most of us will already have our posse together when we need a four-man team for SOCOM, Warcraft, drinking, pool, darts...you name it. I'm not sure I like the idea of sharing my wife, but having a highly-trained team of killers in BattleField: 2 sounds rather attractive...maybe even lucrative. :P

By lovespread• 14 Dec 2008 09:51
lovespread

I'm wondering if those who conducted the research were all men...

"You are built not to shrink down to less but to blossom into more" - Ophrah Winfrey-

By Eagley• 14 Dec 2008 09:43
Rating: 4/5
Eagley

How about polyandry? I think that's very good indeed. There's always more than one side to anything. ;)

"Research would suggest that women from polyandry cultures live 100 per cent longer than those who limit their affections to one man at a time.

It is thought women benefit from having a fuss made over them by a gaggle of men." (oops! to the "gaggle" of men bit, but you catch my drift, yes?). How nice to have many options. If one doesn't like something about his/her woman/man, just go on to the next woman/man.

All hail to equality!!

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Don't want no drama,

No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 09:41
Gypsy

Yup, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. :)

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 09:38
anonymous

Gypsy knows where she could find holy ground anytime. In case a night predator stalks her.

The Red_Pope is the next goodwill Ambassador to the UN.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 09:30
britexpat

Perhaps you can persuade her that a Pick-up Truck is a Red Neck's Porsche..

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 09:25
Gypsy

Exactly Red Pope. If I wanted a husband who'll live long, I'd marry a younger man. :P

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 09:21
anonymous

You are the expert Black widow of relationships, You are always preying on defenseless young men. Lots of Porsche, money and free traveling.

The Red_Pope is the next goodwill Ambassador to the UN.

By tubelight• 14 Dec 2008 09:11
tubelight

I always thought that polygamy was allowed to keep the society structured and not to help individuals' well being (ie collectivism vs individualism approach).

well that just simply means that we need to have substantially more female population than male population, which we dont have control over.

By anonymous• 14 Dec 2008 09:06
anonymous

r u married already? :)

By Gypsy• 14 Dec 2008 09:04
Gypsy

I don't want my husband to live that badly thanks.

By britexpat• 14 Dec 2008 08:56
britexpat

The reasons are not so simplistic..

Perhaps the following will shed more light :

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14564-polygamy-is-the-key-to-a-long-life.html?DCMP=ILC-hmts&nsref=news6_head_dn14564

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